The F18 will not be a very good plane in the game if they put it into top tier due to the weak engine power and top speed,F16s and F15s will still be more superior
@ I don’t care if it underperforms and I don’t need it to be a meta plane, I want it in game because it’s my favorite aircraft and I’d like to see and fly it in game.
@@Thermal6 Slightly less aerodynamic than MICA-EM, MICA-IR remains capable of intercepting a target up to 60 km away, its maneuverability of 50 G at short range remains equal to 30 G at several tens of km. Compared to the ASRAAM offered by the same manufacturer MBDA, the MICA-IR has several advantages in operational condition: - Greater agility in dogfights thanks to its vectored thrust and larger tailplane. - A higher speed (Mach 4 vs Mach 3). - A greater range (60 km vs 35 km). - The MICA-IR seekers are integrated into the data fusion of the Rafale weapon system and provide it with detected tracks without even having been fired. If it comes to the game, I’m really really happy.
@@vandeseite1662 got u but they definitely have to push the update out before christmas plus one or two weeks dev server, dev blogs should come next week tuesday or thursday
The Kfir C10 Block 60 does not have compatibility with the Python-3, its just compatible with the Python-4 and Python-5, the wiring for the Python-3 and the pylon compatibility got removed, the Python-4 and 5 uses a totally different wiring and Pylon. Mat for the love of god stop denying the Python-4 its totally coming this update for the japanese tree too via thailand. Just wait and see.
Nope. There is only the pl8b which is a Chinese improvment of the pl8 which is a piton 3. And for the love of God they add the pl8b this update. Was supposed to come with j10a already but gaming goofy@@rotemshaul2941
@@rotemshaul2941 there is no "Python-3B" mate. You are totally confused with the PL-8B which is a totally indigenous developed missile by china, upgrading his Engine for WAY better one increasing his speed, range and also giving it better kinematics in general to the missile, and one of the most important things is that the PL-8B uses literally the same seeker technology that we found in the chinese TY-90 and we already know what the IRCCM of the TY-90 right?! i dont need to explain i think.
I've been waiting for someone to talk about the new Kfir for a while, I'm super stoked on it because of its radar and missiles, but I feel like it got overshadowed by the EuroFighter and Typhoon. Since it's the Colombian D block it could potentially have I-Derby ER (Which I doubt because that's a pretty advanced missile for this game). And the new radar system is going to be amazing but I'm just hoping they launch it just with a standard derbies with a potential radar Improvement. But I could see how they would delay this even though it's a generation 3 vehicle
it wont have i derby er, that would out do even the fakour in range, and it maintains stellar maneuverability. python 4 has a high chance though, to come to both the f5 and kfir. and the thing about the radar, the block 60 model (specified in 2 different trust worthy leak lists) only ever used aesa, so the radar would be fantastic when it is added, which is hopefully this update. and it will garunteed come with normal derby, that was one of it's main armament, and still is, just in the form of i derby er
The F-5T should get the Python 4 as just like the AAM-3 (and every IRCCM missile just to a lesser extent) it will have a nerfed seeker. Along side this it should not get the AIM-9P-4 at all as it could hold both the Python 3 and Python 4 on all 4 AAM pylons
Maybe the tech tree can get F-20 with its AMRAAM's since its documented it was able to carry them now since the F-5T is coming. That would be a lot of fun for 13.0. I would tali that in a moment lol, i love 12.7-13.0
i think the only reason they have a problem with that is it was only every proposed, and a lot of prototypes in game dont have theur proposed missiles. for example the Mirage 4000 was supposed to have a loadout of 14 micas, but obviously we dont have that.
F-20 could not use AIM-120’s. There is an image of it with mockup 120’s but as far as anyone is aware its fire control system was not capable of launching them.
That is factually inaccurate, and you should speak less on subjects You clearly do not have enough information on because even Wikipedia acknowledges that it was tested with both aim-7 later models were tested with AIM-120as The idea that Plane designed around the same time as the F-16 wouldn’t be able to use as laughable just like you. Don’t type. Even Wikipedia acknowledges it.
@@TackshooterOG Dude, the F-20 project was cancelled 5 years before the AMRAAM came out. It was never tested with AMRAAMs, it never used AMRAAMs, and neither did the F-16s it was competing with. At that time, there was no "Aim-120," there were only Aim-9s and Aim-7s, of which were the primary weapons for both the F-20 and the F-16s of that time.
@ exactly, Wikipedia is not a reliable source. Yes it was planned to use the AIM-120, from my knowledge there is not a single proof of evidence of it being able to fire them. I have read through one of the only public flight manuals for the F-20. nowhere in it does it mention the AIM-120, not even once
South African Atlas Carver could be a nice addition, this jet in real life didn't entered production due to the fact that South Africa was able to procure Gripens after Apartheid was abolished in 1994.
Bell Labs in the USA built the first functional AESA radar in 1960, called the Nike Zeus. However, Ferdinand Braun from Germany in 1905 built the first concept for an AESA radar. Mitsubishi Electronics made the first AESA radar for Japan in 2002. Japan didn't make the first AESA radar and they didn't invent it either.
@@saltysteel3996 To be fair, AESA radar and RCS applied on aircraft were first studied by German and Soviets scientists, US and Japan didn't discover anything, they just had the chance to create and put AESA radar in service before anyone else mainly because of the US geopolotical and dollar hegemony after the WWII.
@@Schluggernaut I know Gajin they know people want i to badly in game so they are gonna drag it out as long as possible b4 they really start making people mad
&Abottleofwaterkeepstherussians it’s the December update the October update took forever basically about month longer than scheduled in October so instead we got it in November and now here comes the December update
@@areyou0k98 there’s literally a whole roadmap every year tf u mean filler 🤣🤣been playing for years that was a major update the 2nd biggest this year gaijin even said so they’re selves
@@spookygulag9342 for one, multipathing isn’t even hard if you have a semblance of a braincell. Second, notching is a better way to defeat them anyways, just notch it, it aint hard. And third, you can very easily kinetically defeat these missile, especially when they were launched at range
@@TRYXv python 5 gonna come at somepoint, but hopefully not any time soon. python 4 would be the best ir missile when added, but it wouldnt be game breaking i dont think. like, it would be damn good, but it does not use an IIR seeker, so there would still be methods of flaring it. now it would be very very maneuverable, and at low speed it would not have the same issue as the r73 where it spins out, seeing as it doesnt use tvc.the python 4 is the last new ir missile that wouldnt be near unflarable, that wouldnt completely change top tier.
@@batlax18thats not true. The python 4 uses a mix of irrcm and eccm. (Same as the aim-9m and r-73.) so it would be semi busted but preflares would work… until the thing does a 180. (Yes the python 4 can also do 180s)
@@phantomraptor8851 brother I know, I love to research Israel’s military aviation, and what you said changes nothing I said. It would still be semi easy to flare, it would be very maneuverable and it would he the best IR in the game
West high end premium squadron = 3 generation . China = 4 generation 20 sec turn speed with all the top tier munition you can want . Brics bias lmao this game is a joke .
No F18, fine I’ll make my own war thunder and have that as the very first vehicle
The second part of the leak list Isn't out yet, and i don't believe Gaijin would add the Su-33 without the F-18 in the same patch.
The F18 will not be a very good plane in the game if they put it into top tier due to the weak engine power and top speed,F16s and F15s will still be more superior
@ I don’t care if it underperforms and I don’t need it to be a meta plane, I want it in game because it’s my favorite aircraft and I’d like to see and fly it in game.
@@h4r0ld59 thats understandable,its still a very good looking jet
@@h4r0ld59 bro i got the same ich feeling with the eurofighter.
I always play the gripen and hopefully the eurofighter will be so agile aswell 🔥🔥🔥
Two Fighters are currently missing: The F-18 Hornet, The MiG-25, The F-2. What is Gaijin waiting for?
they should also add a niche roll like scout planes, literally just scouts and in ground rb would scout like a light tank. (Mig-25 and Sr-71 when?)
@@Vrooto SR71 pulling 2-3 Gs at most have no place in the game, lol. Even with the game Gs multiplier it would basically pull no more than 4.5 Gs.
@@devisucarlo7922 Not to mention it doesn't even carry any weapons
F2 has NO place in the game right now
People do stfu about the f18. Us mains can't stop whining.
Something gonna be a premium pack vehicle, I smelled Gaijin.
im pretty sure its going to be the new kfir i hope not but i think i it will be ...
@@EnzoBls-o1i i also hope not, but man. 3 kfirs that are not in the tech tree? thats stupid
@@maxdavidyermolaev4164 and its gonna be the winter event reward
I miss actually getting surprised what new vehicles are coming
no one is making you watch this
@@ZeroHarperLOL
@@ZeroHarper I am. and hes gonna be gaping if he doesnt
advanced IR missiles are to be expected for this update, they are even guaranteed
Can you explain why ?
@@Captain1991-The F-5T mainly used the python 4 AFAIK.
Same goes for the kfir 60
@@Lightning_Moon271
Okay but does it means that the MICA IR and the rest of these boosted ir missile are coming ?
@@Captain1991- The eurofighter and rafael are coming so i yeah i would say so
@@Thermal6
Slightly less aerodynamic than MICA-EM, MICA-IR remains capable of intercepting a target up to 60 km away, its maneuverability of 50 G at short range remains equal to 30 G at several tens of km. Compared to the ASRAAM offered by the same manufacturer MBDA, the MICA-IR has several advantages in operational condition:
- Greater agility in dogfights thanks to its vectored thrust and larger tailplane.
- A higher speed (Mach 4 vs Mach 3).
- A greater range (60 km vs 35 km).
- The MICA-IR seekers are integrated into the data fusion of the Rafale weapon system and provide it with detected tracks without even having been fired.
If it comes to the game, I’m really really happy.
DEV blog season will start next week
Source?
@@vandeseite1662 has to start next week, u need no source for that just basic knowledge of wt update dates and timings
Yeah i know. But the last Update was obviously delayed without a word. You Know what i mean?
@@vandeseite1662 got u but they definitely have to push the update out before christmas plus one or two weeks dev server, dev blogs should come next week tuesday or thursday
@@vince3573 hopefully you‘re right man. I can‘t Wait for the biggest update of the year 🔥
The Kfir C10 Block 60 does not have compatibility with the Python-3, its just compatible with the Python-4 and Python-5, the wiring for the Python-3 and the pylon compatibility got removed, the Python-4 and 5 uses a totally different wiring and Pylon. Mat for the love of god stop denying the Python-4 its totally coming this update for the japanese tree too via thailand. Just wait and see.
Source on that one?
There is also a version of the python 3 with irccm called python 3B I think. Not sure but that is more likely to come then the python 4
Nope. There is only the pl8b which is a Chinese improvment of the pl8 which is a piton 3. And for the love of God they add the pl8b this update. Was supposed to come with j10a already but gaming goofy@@rotemshaul2941
@@rotemshaul2941yes p3b should of already been in the game but python 4 has to be coming there’s no way it’s not
@@rotemshaul2941 there is no "Python-3B" mate. You are totally confused with the PL-8B which is a totally indigenous developed missile by china, upgrading his Engine for WAY better one increasing his speed, range and also giving it better kinematics in general to the missile, and one of the most important things is that the PL-8B uses literally the same seeker technology that we found in the chinese TY-90 and we already know what the IRCCM of the TY-90 right?! i dont need to explain i think.
I've been waiting for someone to talk about the new Kfir for a while, I'm super stoked on it because of its radar and missiles, but I feel like it got overshadowed by the EuroFighter and Typhoon.
Since it's the Colombian D block it could potentially have I-Derby ER (Which I doubt because that's a pretty advanced missile for this game). And the new radar system is going to be amazing but I'm just hoping they launch it just with a standard derbies with a potential radar Improvement. But I could see how they would delay this even though it's a generation 3 vehicle
it wont have i derby er, that would out do even the fakour in range, and it maintains stellar maneuverability. python 4 has a high chance though, to come to both the f5 and kfir. and the thing about the radar, the block 60 model (specified in 2 different trust worthy leak lists) only ever used aesa, so the radar would be fantastic when it is added, which is hopefully this update. and it will garunteed come with normal derby, that was one of it's main armament, and still is, just in the form of i derby er
MODERN KFIR LETS GOOOO
The F-5T should get the Python 4 as just like the AAM-3 (and every IRCCM missile just to a lesser extent) it will have a nerfed seeker. Along side this it should not get the AIM-9P-4 at all as it could hold both the Python 3 and Python 4 on all 4 AAM pylons
3:43 There was indeed a proposal for Kfir, but we choosed F-16 Block 70 and bought them new from USA.
No mention of the f414 engine in kfir c10. The f414 is the super hornet/jas 39e engine
Maybe the tech tree can get F-20 with its AMRAAM's since its documented it was able to carry them now since the F-5T is coming. That would be a lot of fun for 13.0. I would tali that in a moment lol, i love 12.7-13.0
i think the only reason they have a problem with that is it was only every proposed, and a lot of prototypes in game dont have theur proposed missiles. for example the Mirage 4000 was supposed to have a loadout of 14 micas, but obviously we dont have that.
F-20 could not use AIM-120’s. There is an image of it with mockup 120’s but as far as anyone is aware its fire control system was not capable of launching them.
That is factually inaccurate, and you should speak less on subjects You clearly do not have enough information on because even Wikipedia acknowledges that it was tested with both aim-7 later models were tested with AIM-120as The idea that Plane designed around the same time as the F-16 wouldn’t be able to use as laughable just like you. Don’t type.
Even Wikipedia acknowledges it.
@@TackshooterOG Dude, the F-20 project was cancelled 5 years before the AMRAAM came out. It was never tested with AMRAAMs, it never used AMRAAMs, and neither did the F-16s it was competing with. At that time, there was no "Aim-120," there were only Aim-9s and Aim-7s, of which were the primary weapons for both the F-20 and the F-16s of that time.
@ exactly, Wikipedia is not a reliable source. Yes it was planned to use the AIM-120, from my knowledge there is not a single proof of evidence of it being able to fire them. I have read through one of the only public flight manuals for the F-20. nowhere in it does it mention the AIM-120, not even once
WOW. We got upgraded versions of Kfir and F-5 now, but there's still no F/A-18.
I wish they’d add the F-2,Eurofighter, Rafailure, HAL Tejas, Su-33, and F-18 at the same time
Rafailure when its the biggest competitor of the f35...
dont forget that the kfir c10 also introduced an HMD, to pair with its radar and pythons
South African Atlas Carver could be a nice addition, this jet in real life didn't entered production due to the fact that South Africa was able to procure Gripens after Apartheid was abolished in 1994.
Give us the Su-27SM3! Folder the SM.
Do you think that we are gonna see modern IR missiles on this update ? (IRIS-T, AIM-9X, R-74, Python 5, MICA IR ...) ?
I really hope
100% not this patch.
nah, we need next tier fox-3 first, or atleast at the same time
I wish not.
I don't think so, maybe the mica IR BC isn't so busted like the other ones but even it I would be surprised if they add this patch.
I expect Gaijin to finally give the Kfir C7 underwing fuel tanks and Lizard LGBs
They removed Kfir Canard's ability touse its rangefinder as fire control radar :\
Kfir with AESA radar is gonna be crazy
Yes 😭😭😭😭
Except it’s only gonna have 36 (though there is some evidence of 72) countermeasures
@ oh well,
@@C8-H8 should have 72, there is picture evidence of there being extra countermeasure pods next to the standard ones
bruh, where is my F-2A... We should have the first AESA radar, Japan made it first
ikr, Japan still having an F16 they never used is absolutely bollocks.
@@bagofsunshine3916 not only that, it never existed
Bell Labs in the USA built the first functional AESA radar in 1960, called the Nike Zeus.
However, Ferdinand Braun from Germany in 1905 built the first concept for an AESA radar.
Mitsubishi Electronics made the first AESA radar for Japan in 2002.
Japan didn't make the first AESA radar and they didn't invent it either.
@@saltysteel3996 weren't they the first to put it in an aircraft though?
@@saltysteel3996 To be fair, AESA radar and RCS applied on aircraft were first studied by German and Soviets scientists, US and Japan didn't discover anything, they just had the chance to create and put AESA radar in service before anyone else mainly because of the US geopolotical and dollar hegemony after the WWII.
No one is sitting here and actually asking for MORE F-5'S . Put the damn f-18 in the game already
Do you know when there will be results of hori hotas giveaway?
is the next major expected to come in december?
yes
@@luuk341 I would expect dev blogs but if the update really does come out next month that's crazy
@@uranium3000 Updates come out same times every year. Basically one every season
Yeah, it is very likely to come out between the 14th and the 20th
Our f5 can carry 4 python missiles not 2. from Thailand
When is dev server coming back
After the dev blog
How is there no F-18 gajin clearly basis time 2 riot this patch sucks without it
Have you ever considered that this is only the first leak?
@@Schluggernaut I know Gajin they know people want i to badly in game so they are gonna drag it out as long as possible b4 they really start making people mad
@ gaijin doesn’t really do that though?
avergae US main
Does anyone know the leaker's discord server?
What time would the first devblog come out?
It should come out later today, If not it will come on tuesday.
Sri Lanka also use the c10
No Sri lanka dont use C.10s
@geeno_ms5233 my bad they use/d the c2
@@JonathanOfir-fs8oethe only operator of C.10 Block 60s Is colombia.
GIB ME F 18 GAIJIN
will the f5t come after the f5e in the us tech tree cuz im grinding the f16a and that would be horrendous
the leak list states the F-5T is coming for Japan, not for US
The f5t is going to Japan
It’s going to Japan
Why is everyone glazing mica ir so much it just not as good as the other super IR missiles
It’s cause the super IRs like Aim9x and IRST are ment for close range while Mica can engage out to 60km and be givin course updates via TWS and IRST.
MICA IR seems like an IR BVR, imagine trying to defend against BVR missile without RWR ping
You say this because you don’t know the missile …
its a near unflarable, longer range, more maneuverable r27et. and that shit is annoying af already. we DO NOT need mica ir right now
@@Captain1991-I am a mica? What do you know captain. I doubt your a mica. As a mica I can confirm I’m weak
#Kfir4CAS
Why are we getting another update right after the major update released 😭
&Abottleofwaterkeepstherussians it’s the December update the October update took forever basically about month longer than scheduled in October so instead we got it in November and now here comes the December update
Are you really complaining ??
Most recent update was a filler update. The December update is the actual "major" update.
@@areyou0k98 there’s literally a whole roadmap every year tf u mean filler 🤣🤣been playing for years that was a major update the 2nd biggest this year gaijin even said so they’re selves
@@Hitman_chiraqBeen playing for years, and doesn’t remember that the October updates are filler to last us until December
Man… why can’t have an update that doesn’t add top tier stuff
Why should there be an update without a new top tier?
@@Armata6348because he don’t have top tier😂😂new player issue😂😂
We dont need f18 right now we have new F15E
and noone cares about how stupid is top tier. i wonder how many people have to say to make gaijin revoke their changes ( ground effect back to 100m)
Multipathing should not be reverted, they need to balance the game the other way.
Irl multipathing is even lower, especially for 90s radars.
multipathing is not the issue, player count in games is
@batlax18 so missiles hitting u when u fly low is not the issues ?
Even in 12 v 12 I see this bullshit and games ends way faster
@@spookygulag9342 for one, multipathing isn’t even hard if you have a semblance of a braincell. Second, notching is a better way to defeat them anyways, just notch it, it aint hard. And third, you can very easily kinetically defeat these missile, especially when they were launched at range
@batlax18 say it to f15s who are spamming amrams from the sky at people who try to notch the miasile which goes at mach 4
Israel's technique is boring
Stop saying right after every sentence pleaseeee
Wooooooooo
second
4th? also i love ur videos
Say it with me AY SUH, AY SUH, not Iyesa. You don’t have to pronounce every letter
He's Brazilian, cut him some slack
@ yet if it was an American speaking Portuguese you wouldn’t hear the end of “why’re you saying it weird” or “it’s said like this not that”
LMAOOOO
bro phyton 5 is most advanced IR missle in the world
Yeah p5 will never come to the game, the python 4 is a 50+g missile so idk how there gonna handle that
@@TRYXv python 5 gonna come at somepoint, but hopefully not any time soon. python 4 would be the best ir missile when added, but it wouldnt be game breaking i dont think. like, it would be damn good, but it does not use an IIR seeker, so there would still be methods of flaring it. now it would be very very maneuverable, and at low speed it would not have the same issue as the r73 where it spins out, seeing as it doesnt use tvc.the python 4 is the last new ir missile that wouldnt be near unflarable, that wouldnt completely change top tier.
@@batlax18thats not true. The python 4 uses a mix of irrcm and eccm. (Same as the aim-9m and r-73.) so it would be semi busted but preflares would work… until the thing does a 180. (Yes the python 4 can also do 180s)
@@phantomraptor8851 brother I know, I love to research Israel’s military aviation, and what you said changes nothing I said. It would still be semi easy to flare, it would be very maneuverable and it would he the best IR in the game
@ mhm. I just hope i get it on the F-16D barak II.
Among other things like its jamming electronics.
Python 4 would be the cream on top.
too early
bro is so desperate for views
West high end premium squadron = 3 generation . China = 4 generation 20 sec turn speed with all the top tier munition you can want . Brics bias lmao this game is a joke .
What? China gets one squadron vehicle and now it’s bias? It’s not even an OP vehicle.
what are you talking about
@@junglistmassivhe’s complaining about the JF17 lmao
@@Chickenricebean123 🤣