Blair, instead of keeping to tighten that ratchet strap, back off and empty out the reel. The more that reel fills up, the less advantage you have. (Just like using a winch, the rating goes down for each layer of cable.) steve
Great job detailing your thought process regarding whether or not to put the energy into salvaging the tree! Would love to see something that covers the difference between static cabling versus dynamic cabling options. Thanks so much for being such a prolific poster with all of your videos!
Did the same with a weeping willow. It helped me a lot setting up 2 ratchet straps. The tree survived a monsoon season so far. Hopefully owner gets it removed soon since its above his putting grass. Thanks for the vid!
should havel have lovely fall foliage again this autumn. years from now, i sure every time they enjoy the beauty of the tree - no matter which season - they will remember, appreciate, and admire the work you did to help make it possible.
See this is why you're the expert. I know without a doubt I would have drilled at least 2 more threaded rods in higher up trying to COMPLETELY close that crack. Probably would have made things worse than better. I enjoy watching your videos.
Almost an orthopedist of trees. The doctor is in the house!!!! By the way thank you for the idea of hunting for a draw saw at flea markets, today I found an old Arkansa sharpening stone from the 50's that was just amazing. I was shooting for one kind of animal but got another one just as nice out of it. No wonder you are a big shot movie director, you know your stuff. Just kidding, thank you again.
Yes sir. Moving my family and tree service to north Idaho. Because I want 10 beautiful acres with a nice house and large shop for 250k. Cali is beautiful but not that worth staying for us.
What's even sillier is that they spend their millions on those places, knowing that they can be destroyed in minutes by fire, or in an instant by an earthquake. The insurance premiums must be high.
Workman-like job to buy some extra time for the tree. Now plant its replacement to have a tree of some size when the time comes, as it will. Thumbs up.
@@arboristBlairGlenn twisting by wind could be detrimental. The wind here at the cape of good hope is very strong. Hope your work will last long enough to convince the people that trees are not eternal and to think of replacements in time to mitigate disappointment.
You are a very hard worker and dedicated to your craft. I would of never thought that could of been done. Are you concerned with any liability for the repair failing. Thanks for posting and sharing your passion for your work.
I perfer to use a ratchet come-a-long instead of a Spanish windlass, up in the tree. If you rig a couple of blocks you can get close to 50:1 mechanical advantage.
It's a knotty problem, of course. Ultimately, it's best to take the tree down, and let them put up with no view of the big tree for a few years, while the replacement develops into a mature tree. People pay silly money for transient pleasures, expecting things to last beyond their tenure of the property. Just like the man who planned to bigger storehouses for his crops - and died.
ok my friend, ready to bump heads again? tho I've been told I'm a sentimental guy, I've little patience for it when it comes to trees. if I can't solve a problem with complete confidence of safety, I won't recommend/perform any fix. you know we've both seen countless requests to "save" memory trees. I gets my heart, the story's, but if theres the slightest chance of injury from what I've done to remedy,...nope. even on my own land. this doesn't pertain to you, other folks. I applaud all efforts, and just like I'm sure YOU have witnessed, I've seen some, how should I say?...very interesting examples, lol. be well young man~
Why didn't you use one of those for cabling? They certainly are less harmful for the trees than the ratchet strap and the steel cables. Do you use em sometimes? www.treestuff.com/store/catalog.asp?category_id=2260&item=17653
Stick weld it. You might need to use a nickle rod and a good pre heat but if you wrap it with welding blankets when you are done and let it cool overnight it shouldn't crack as it cools. (edit, Or a giant bolt, that would do it... Although if that gives it will come out of their like an RPG)
That's a lot safer 'spitash' ( that's what my mind said last week..LOL..!! ) . Is there any chance that the tree can start healing itself from the inside out...kinda like when a tree grows around and isolates a foreign object ?
Considering that the cambium is the only part where it can create new cells, it can't really heal "from the inside out". All it can possibly do is grow together on the outside and try to contain the inevitable decay on the inside. It won't ever be "healthy" again, but it's possible that it'll manage to somewhat stabilize itself. Lots of trees are rotten on the inside, but manage to stay alive, as long as they have no structural problems.
Might it not have been a bit better to use a large perhaps stainless plate rather than the small fender washers? They would not have dug in so much and held much better when the wind starts blowing plus not damaging the questionable tree even more. Formed to the curvature would be easy with a rectangular piece. High density plastic could also have been shaped on a bandsaw to the curvature. They used to make 'hoops' that wrapped around wooden tanks or barrels with a threaded end. Don't know if a guy could adapt that idea with a piece of strap metal under the hoop to keep from digging in? There is going to be a horrendous leverage on that split during any wind. Spreading the load over a large area I would imagine would be a better solution. Even wrapping the tree with several turns of substantial rope (like 'serving' the end of a line) after you have it together instead of bolting with of course redoing the wrap each year could have held it better short of what you recommended and cutting it down! Bugs and decay are of course going to attack that entire split even more for the rest of its time. Some people have way more money than common sense for sure. I wouldn't park a bicycle under as it is much less a car and occupants. As you say, "interesting" for sure. Take care. Doug
Douglas Thompson I’m not worried about this Tree and we will be doing annual inspections. When the time comes, of course. A lot of people will be dead before then.
Nice job but looked like a lot of work, That spanish tie looks very dangerous without a set of extra hands in there to help tie off after getting it tight
Looking at that tree I was thinking how would Wile E. Coyote fix it? With his Acme tree fix kit it's nothing a couple of ratchet straps and a 55 gallon drum of Tightbond III can't fix, then wait for the deleterious consequences as always.. Beep Beep.
Underrated one of your videos this has to be one of my favorite videos of yours
That was my comment about “many a man”. I had to run to the other room and make my wife watch. The highlight of a long day.👍🏻
Blair, instead of keeping to
tighten that ratchet strap, back
off and empty out the reel.
The more that reel fills up,
the less advantage you have.
(Just like using a winch, the
rating goes down for each
layer of cable.)
steve
That's so logical that it should be obvious, but I never actually thought of it. Good tip.
Great job detailing your thought process regarding whether or not to put the energy into salvaging the tree! Would love to see something that covers the difference between static cabling versus dynamic cabling options. Thanks so much for being such a prolific poster with all of your videos!
Jeff Micka thank you
Did the same with a weeping willow. It helped me a lot setting up 2 ratchet straps. The tree survived a monsoon season so far. Hopefully owner gets it removed soon since its above his putting grass. Thanks for the vid!
My willow tree split too.I hope i can manage this
should havel have lovely fall foliage again this autumn. years from now, i sure every time they enjoy the beauty of the tree - no matter which season - they will remember, appreciate, and admire the work you did to help make it possible.
t0msan the few people I spoke to will. Thanks for commenting
Great end result. Thanks for the follow up.
Simon I try
See this is why you're the expert. I know without a doubt I would have drilled at least 2 more threaded rods in higher up trying to COMPLETELY close that crack. Probably would have made things worse than better. I enjoy watching your videos.
rusedorange because the tree was cracked before it split, the wood took on a bend. Trying to repair that bend is just too much
Great follow-up. Very interesting.
Almost an orthopedist of trees.
The doctor is in the house!!!!
By the way thank you for the idea of hunting for a draw saw at flea markets, today I found an old Arkansa sharpening stone from the 50's that was just amazing.
I was shooting for one kind of animal but got another one just as nice out of it.
No wonder you are a big shot movie director, you know your stuff. Just kidding, thank you again.
Agnos Jr. big shot? Yeah right. Glad you found your draw knife
Only in California would those be million dollar homes! Sometimes I think we have forgotten the actual value of money out here.
ddoyle11 it is truly a sick economic condition that has ruined the lives of the next generation.
Yes sir. Moving my family and tree service to north Idaho. Because I want 10 beautiful acres with a nice house and large shop for 250k. Cali is beautiful but not that worth staying for us.
What's even sillier is that they spend their millions on those places, knowing that they can be destroyed in minutes by fire, or in an instant by an earthquake. The insurance premiums must be high.
Workman-like job to buy some extra time for the tree. Now plant its replacement to have a tree of some size when the time comes, as it will. Thumbs up.
Jan-Reinier Voute I will be curious to see how long it lasts
@@arboristBlairGlenn twisting by wind could be detrimental. The wind here at the cape of good hope is very strong. Hope your work will last long enough to convince the people that trees are not eternal and to think of replacements in time to mitigate disappointment.
They will remember the Lorax!
You are a very hard worker and dedicated to your craft. I would of never thought that could of been done. Are you concerned with any liability for the repair failing. Thanks for posting and sharing your passion for your work.
Fillow Tree I’m not worried. Fix is stronger than the defect was
Oh, good, I was hoping for this video.
Amazing repair! Wow!
Bruno Bonomo thanks Bruno
All without even using a saddle and rope.
Not bad.
Not all trees need ropes
I had expected a couple more threaded rods and larger flat washers once you selected that solution.
John Baker why larger washers? That would just make a larger wound. Why more threaded rod?
A couple more of those home made bolts would pull it together more and the larger washer would spread the load.
Great vid. I see you use the orchard ladder often. I'm looking to purchase one. What height do you use most?
Back in the day I used two of them frequently. An 8' and a 12'. Mine were wooden though.
How is the tree doing now, just curious. Thank you. (I have a similar situation.)
Hanging in there but will never be strong
That looked like a good fix, is there any kind of sealant you could use in the crack, or would that just trap contaminants?
JimsEquipmentShed best just to leave it alone
Is there anything you can put in the crack to help the tree heal.
Studies have shown that tree sealants to be of no value. Seems like a smart thing to do but a tree wound is best to dry out.
curious. on lesser splits like that. other than mulberry, have you ever seen an example of cambium layer being able to grab/heal over a severe wound?
Michigan Mister yes, a fresh split will graft back together. When it dries out, no.
@@arboristBlairGlenn would it be helpful to scribe the bark on either side, before you tightened it up, to encourage grafting together
We need an update on this tree so we know if we are changing your title from arborist to doctor blair !!
And I am guessing using a wood glue to try and rebond some of the wood fibers would also be a bad idea or could that help some?
Joseph Krug I don’t think it would work. Gap is still there
I perfer to use a ratchet come-a-long instead of a Spanish windlass, up in the tree. If you rig a couple of blocks you can get close to 50:1 mechanical advantage.
J Morrow so many small limbs. An advantage to the simple windlass is I gather a bunch of weak limbs as a group.
@@arboristBlairGlenn Just use a self equalizing anchor
Odd question. I assume you are using the Bluetooth headset as a mic. Does it work directly or do you go thru a separate app?
Nice work Sir! hopefully, it lasts.
Rufus LC time will tell
What kind of ladder is that? And Where would I get one?
Keith Hall aluminum fruit ladders are not hard to find. This is a 16 footer
Do you take any limbs out to reduce the weight up top?
The Jenna Endeavour not needed at this time
Was it deliberate to use a camouflage ratchet-strap?
Ya can hardly even see it!
:-)
good fix
Patrick Wagz no, that was what I had.
They should plant another tree near to it, as its replacement, then fell the old tree in a few years' time.
Thanks Blair.
RWBHere problem is a lack of sunlight under the tree will inhibit the growth of a new tree.
It's a knotty problem, of course. Ultimately, it's best to take the tree down, and let them put up with no view of the big tree for a few years, while the replacement develops into a mature tree. People pay silly money for transient pleasures, expecting things to last beyond their tenure of the property. Just like the man who planned to bigger storehouses for his crops - and died.
What size ladder are you using?
Tom M 16’
ok my friend, ready to bump heads again? tho I've been told I'm a sentimental guy, I've little patience for it when it comes to trees. if I can't solve a problem with complete confidence of safety, I won't recommend/perform any fix. you know we've both seen countless requests to "save" memory trees. I gets my heart, the story's, but if theres the slightest chance of injury from what I've done to remedy,...nope. even on my own land. this doesn't pertain to you, other folks. I applaud all efforts, and just like I'm sure YOU have witnessed, I've seen some, how should I say?...very interesting examples, lol. be well young man~
Michigan Mister IF this was a big tree, or over a structure, I would not have done this. Because of the location, I’m not worried.
This is the follow up video
Why didn't you use one of those for cabling? They certainly are less harmful for the trees than the ratchet strap and the steel cables.
Do you use em sometimes?
www.treestuff.com/store/catalog.asp?category_id=2260&item=17653
NO filler for the gap?
Nope
Should have used Titebond III and some Dutchmans to keep it together. LOL
Mark N still a gap
HEY!!!! You liked that idea huh?
Wonder if wood glue would help?
TheDisorderly1 don’t think so
Bravo!
Stick weld it. You might need to use a nickle rod and a good pre heat but if you wrap it with welding blankets when you are done and let it cool overnight it shouldn't crack as it cools. (edit, Or a giant bolt, that would do it... Although if that gives it will come out of their like an RPG)
Godshole ??
That's a lot safer 'spitash' ( that's what my mind said last week..LOL..!! ) . Is there any chance that the tree can start healing itself from the inside out...kinda like when a tree grows around and isolates a foreign object ?
marbleman52 time will tell
Considering that the cambium is the only part where it can create new cells, it can't really heal "from the inside out". All it can possibly do is grow together on the outside and try to contain the inevitable decay on the inside. It won't ever be "healthy" again, but it's possible that it'll manage to somewhat stabilize itself. Lots of trees are rotten on the inside, but manage to stay alive, as long as they have no structural problems.
Thanks, Blair....I always learn something from your videos...I really appreciate you.
Iocun this tree will always need continued maintenance
Might it not have been a bit better to use a large perhaps stainless plate rather than the small fender washers? They would not have dug in so much and held much better when the wind starts blowing plus not damaging the questionable tree even more. Formed to the curvature would be easy with a rectangular piece. High density plastic could also have been shaped on a bandsaw to the curvature. They used to make 'hoops' that wrapped around wooden tanks or barrels with a threaded end. Don't know if a guy could adapt that idea with a piece of strap metal under the hoop to keep from digging in? There is going to be a horrendous leverage on that split during any wind. Spreading the load over a large area I would imagine would be a better solution. Even wrapping the tree with several turns of substantial rope (like 'serving' the end of a line) after you have it together instead of bolting with of course redoing the wrap each year could have held it better short of what you recommended and cutting it down! Bugs and decay are of course going to attack that entire split even more for the rest of its time. Some people have way more money than common sense for sure. I wouldn't park a bicycle under as it is much less a car and occupants. As you say, "interesting" for sure. Take care. Doug
Douglas Thompson a job can always be done different. Better? Maybe. Considering the alternative is removal, I’m happy
Douglas Thompson I’m not worried about this Tree and we will be doing annual inspections. When the time comes, of course. A lot of people will be dead before then.
Nice job but looked like a lot of work, That spanish tie looks very dangerous without a set of extra hands in there to help tie off after getting it tight
tazmankb26 everything I do is dangerous. Recognizing the hazard and being ready for a potential mishap will keep you safe.
Looking at that tree I was thinking how would Wile E. Coyote fix it? With his Acme tree fix kit it's nothing a couple of ratchet straps and a 55 gallon drum of Tightbond III can't fix, then wait for the deleterious consequences as always.. Beep Beep.
John Bare 👍🏻👍🏻
still alive?
martin Spijker of course!
i mean the tree not you..:D
i hope your daughter is doing ok??..@@arboristBlairGlenn
martin Spijker the tree is fine. My daughter passed away
o no.. i am so sorry to hear that..thats really sad..my condolence for you and you family..@@arboristBlairGlenn
martin Spijker i has been a rough ride for all of us. Thank you for your concern.
That guitarist is rude !! He keeps playing when your still talking !!Lol!
Stephen Lawlor blame the editor. Oh, that would be me.
This isn't up to cabling or bracing standards.
🤔 Using a come along in the top would have pulled it together a lot easier.