NAFTA gets scuttled, Mexico and Canada go for free trade with Europe and Japan instead. The Republicans and Democrats team up in 1996 under a Quayle-Feinstein unity ticket that manages to win. Donald Trump replaces Perot as the leader during the 2000 election and loses in a third party run with President Quayle winning the 2000 election over V.P Feinstein. The reform party collapses into irrelevance. The 2000s sees more or less our timeline play out. Expect for no Iraq war due to Dan Quayle lacking any real grudge against the country and reform party congress members and governors becoming independent or switching to the main parties. By 2010, they are virtually gone from politics. With no President Clinton, Hillary never enters politics. 2004 is won by Sectary of State Collin Powell but loses in 2008 to Joe Biden who remains President until 2016 until Republican Ted Cruz defeats Senator Sherrod Brown. Who in turn loses to Michael Bloomberg in 2020. Due to the post-Covid-20 economic downturn Ted Cruz an unpopular republican challenger is taking on the ancient moderate Michael Bloomberg again in 2024. Leading to Andrew Yang taking over the reform party as his own political vehicle but taken seriously this time. Also no NAFTA hurts the American economy and any jobs kept in the rust belt are balanced out but no jobs gained from free trade.
Hey RW dev here, always nice to see people covering our mod! Small nitpicks though: Shapiro is the leader of the Young Communist League not Turning Point UAPR. The US pacific fleet was taken by Taiwan not Japan. There was also no 1973 oil embargo And the bizarre statement about Destiny and Vaush is untrue? I'm unsure where you got that from, unless its a joke? Other than that good video!
Hey! I absolutely love the mod you help develop. Keep up the good work! But I have a question. Will china and other Asian countries get focus trees at some point? Just asking!
@@Destroyer67512 Of course! We plan to give every nation a focus tree eventually, sadly I'm drawing blanks where Asia falls into ours plans rn. But rest assured, we're hard at work to bring new content. Spain, Cuba and Central America will be coming in our next big update "Cola Wars".
In my opinion, Red world is one of the best mods because Ben Shapiro being a communist while retaining his nerdy rhetoric is absolutely knee-slapping hilarious.
@@styx544 that's actually interesting how it would pan out. I actually think it might have gone a bit better for the Soviets in the early days, since there was no naive Stalin believing that there would be no German Invasion, but that is just my guess.
Hi, said “Tankie” is here and I agree with the point stated in the first minute, the over focusing of the technological advancements of the USSR into the military rather than investing it into the civilian sector and rather than decentralizing and gradual liberalization of the economy you improve centralization update organization and production models and invest in cybernetics to further create the technology to plan and make calculations further and further ahead, this is not a controversial idea in Marxist-Leninist circles, Che Guevara had this same criticism of the Soviet economy, it’s the MAIN takeaway of the fall of the USSR for Marxist-Leninists in terms of what economically went wrong.
Communism just went fuck it and showed up in the wrong side of the globe You can't seize the means of production if the means of production are some random shitty ass factories in Moscow that have worse working conditions than afghanistan
With the current state of technology, cybernetic central planning is impossible, meaning central planning would be largely inefficient, basically rendering any true socialist state obsolete. I don't get the point of marxist economics when even it in its utopian scenario it's still not an achievable prospect.
If anything this mod sounds like it was made by Tankies because Malenkov was one of Stalins biggest meat riders and most likely successor if it wasn’t for Kruschev rise to power lol
There's actually a second socialist ex-American state to the north of the American Republic which encompasses New England, the East Coast north of Virginia and the Great Lakes region up to Illinois. It's called the American People's Commonwealth, and while it is socialist, it's actually more democratic and less authoritarian than the UAPR. 9/11 still happens but is called 5/1 because it happened on May 1st. At first it was assumed that a Christian extremist organization did it, but in reality the true culprit was none other than *Bernie Sanders,* who radicalized into a Nazbol after the Governor of Vermont had his family murdered. Yes, that's actually what happens in the game.
As a "tankie", I agree with your joke in the start of the video. One of the failure of the USSR was that it didn't focus much on the light industry. You wouldn't complain if your country went to space or send a beeping ball into space, you would complain that there aren't any toasters in blue.
So true, in fact that's true for pretty much all countries. Also don't call your self a tankie, they are not socialists or even leftists, they are just red fascists
USSR was always bound to fail because Russia in all of its incarnations has always been a backwards tundra that cant get past their childhood trauma of getting the bad touch by the Mongols
In fact it might make the people even more angry if they see the gocernment spending billions on a space fleet but the food stores are constantly empty. Funnily enough the west is now making the same mistake, except instead of spending tax money on rockets and technology they spend it on foreign aid, which unlike the space race has no upsides at all. First the tragedy, then the farce i guess
Made an oopsie. Date at 0:12 should be 1953 not 1935
yes
Thought it was weird it skipped over ww2
Imagine saying Russia can't take ukraine when your nation is humbled at vietnam
Yeah i was about to say that
@@FodaseNaoLigoVietnam was 10000km away from the USA,while Russia borders Ukraine. Woops kinda ruined your argument bot.
RIP to the original lead dev of the mod.
What happened?
@@EASNSW2 died in a car crash.
R.I.P.
@@Nordbon1523 burst out laughing reading this
least obvious bait
I love these Alternate history 8-bit videos! Nice work once again, man!
Oh yo Regent
Oh yo! you guys (:
@@2winceballyo it Swince!
I'm here too.
@@zijun2731eyy!! Let's go!!
3:29 many people don't realise Dmitri Yazov WAS AND DOES NOT HAVE TO BE A TNO REFERENCE EVERY SINGLE TI-
I just want an alternative history where Ross Perot wins 😂
Based
NAFTA gets scuttled, Mexico and Canada go for free trade with Europe and Japan instead. The Republicans and Democrats team up in 1996 under a Quayle-Feinstein unity ticket that manages to win. Donald Trump replaces Perot as the leader during the 2000 election and loses in a third party run with President Quayle winning the 2000 election over V.P Feinstein. The reform party collapses into irrelevance. The 2000s sees more or less our timeline play out. Expect for no Iraq war due to Dan Quayle lacking any real grudge against the country and reform party congress members and governors becoming independent or switching to the main parties. By 2010, they are virtually gone from politics.
With no President Clinton, Hillary never enters politics. 2004 is won by Sectary of State Collin Powell but loses in 2008 to Joe Biden who remains President until 2016 until Republican Ted Cruz defeats Senator Sherrod Brown. Who in turn loses to Michael Bloomberg in 2020. Due to the post-Covid-20 economic downturn Ted Cruz an unpopular republican challenger is taking on the ancient moderate Michael Bloomberg again in 2024. Leading to Andrew Yang taking over the reform party as his own political vehicle but taken seriously this time.
Also no NAFTA hurts the American economy and any jobs kept in the rust belt are balanced out but no jobs gained from free trade.
There actually is an Alternate History series about Ross Perot being the U.S President.
@@vando6468 ofc, I should go to the main guy 😂
I would love to see that
Hey RW dev here, always nice to see people covering our mod! Small nitpicks though:
Shapiro is the leader of the Young Communist League not Turning Point UAPR.
The US pacific fleet was taken by Taiwan not Japan.
There was also no 1973 oil embargo
And the bizarre statement about Destiny and Vaush is untrue? I'm unsure where you got that from, unless its a joke?
Other than that good video!
Mate how can you look at the scene with Vaush and Destiny and not think it's a joke, do all hoi 4 devs have autism?
@@hatefulgaming1800they play HOI4, the answer is obvious.
it's a joke
Hey! I absolutely love the mod you help develop. Keep up the good work! But I have a question. Will china and other Asian countries get focus trees at some point? Just asking!
@@Destroyer67512 Of course! We plan to give every nation a focus tree eventually, sadly I'm drawing blanks where Asia falls into ours plans rn. But rest assured, we're hard at work to bring new content. Spain, Cuba and Central America will be coming in our next big update "Cola Wars".
It’s been a year, but he’s finally back!
Thanks!
@@LoganProductions Imagine saying Russia can't take ukraine when your nation is humbled at vietnam
The funniest part of this mod is that Apartheid South Africa exists with FW de Klerk as it's president
The good ending
@@Svevsky The Christian ending, but it is hikarious hoe this entire world is essentially a hell hole, but fucking South Africa is ok
@@Svevsky no
@@NoshGilligan23 have fun with your AIDS epidemic then
Great to see you back, I love these vids. Keep doing great work mate!
Thanks!
@@LoganProductions Imagine saying Russia can't take ukraine when your nation is humbled at vietnam
In my opinion, Red world is one of the best mods because Ben Shapiro being a communist while retaining his nerdy rhetoric is absolutely knee-slapping hilarious.
To be fair, ben shapiro is just the breadtuber of the right.
@@Svevsky still that Shapiro event is absolutely hilarious
How could a Hoi4 Mod so perfectly capture Lefist foreign policy in a nutshell?
I would say american leftism, because what the fuck happens in this video is "strange"
Honestly I love this mod it was one of the first I ever played and the first time I played it I instantly fell in love with it. R.I.P Kaiser117
We will probably be decades behind in technological development if it wasn't for the space race.
Did you mean to say Stalin died in 1953, not 1935?
Yes
was so confused when the video never covered how ww2 would be different with military getting less funding pre-war
@@styx544 that's actually interesting how it would pan out. I actually think it might have gone a bit better for the Soviets in the early days, since there was no naive Stalin believing that there would be no German Invasion, but that is just my guess.
@@niewiemjaksienazwac1652 maybe
that Yazov joke got me good
When we needed him most, he came!
Thanks!
@@LoganProductions No problem 😎
@@SirBogginsI see you **everywhere**
@@plpong893 Yea, that's how I roll 😎
Hi, said “Tankie” is here and I agree with the point stated in the first minute, the over focusing of the technological advancements of the USSR into the military rather than investing it into the civilian sector and rather than decentralizing and gradual liberalization of the economy you improve centralization update organization and production models and invest in cybernetics to further create the technology to plan and make calculations further and further ahead, this is not a controversial idea in Marxist-Leninist circles, Che Guevara had this same criticism of the Soviet economy, it’s the MAIN takeaway of the fall of the USSR for Marxist-Leninists in terms of what economically went wrong.
Communism just went fuck it and showed up in the wrong side of the globe
You can't seize the means of production if the means of production are some random shitty ass factories in Moscow that have worse working conditions than afghanistan
With the current state of technology, cybernetic central planning is impossible, meaning central planning would be largely inefficient, basically rendering any true socialist state obsolete. I don't get the point of marxist economics when even it in its utopian scenario it's still not an achievable prospect.
If anything this mod sounds like it was made by Tankies because Malenkov was one of Stalins biggest meat riders and most likely successor if it wasn’t for Kruschev rise to power lol
The Ben shapiro thing caught me off guard
Imagine saying Russia can't take ukraine when your nation is humbled at vietnam
You should do Pax Brit lore
Maybe
There's actually a second socialist ex-American state to the north of the American Republic which encompasses New England, the East Coast north of Virginia and the Great Lakes region up to Illinois. It's called the American People's Commonwealth, and while it is socialist, it's actually more democratic and less authoritarian than the UAPR.
9/11 still happens but is called 5/1 because it happened on May 1st. At first it was assumed that a Christian extremist organization did it, but in reality the true culprit was none other than *Bernie Sanders,* who radicalized into a Nazbol after the Governor of Vermont had his family murdered.
Yes, that's actually what happens in the game.
Bernie Sanders did 9/11 confirmed??
Communist Ben Shapiro is something I would actually pay to watch😂
Melenkov and Beria are two different different people
What if everyone was Huey Long mod next?
Long dong
every man a huey long
Well I didn't expect to see you here... or anything involving Gwain Saga.
You are back! And with the best mod!!!
Thanks!
John Hinkley has a RUclips channel now, fun fact
I love this mod
And rip to the original author
The legend is back.
Welcome back LP!
NGL I was confused why you were welcoming back LazerPig before I realized we had the same abbreviation
I should’ve made that clearer haha - fr tho good to have you back@@LoganProductions
Haven't watched a vid of yours in a hot minute. Glad to be back.
We need an Alf Langdon victory
It’s good to have you back doing your amazing videos I hope you keep them coming also can I ask you something as will
As a "tankie", I agree with your joke in the start of the video. One of the failure of the USSR was that it didn't focus much on the light industry. You wouldn't complain if your country went to space or send a beeping ball into space, you would complain that there aren't any toasters in blue.
So true, in fact that's true for pretty much all countries. Also don't call your self a tankie, they are not socialists or even leftists, they are just red fascists
Nikitia krushchev focused on consumerism and it went crap
USSR was always bound to fail because Russia in all of its incarnations has always been a backwards tundra that cant get past their childhood trauma of getting the bad touch by the Mongols
In fact it might make the people even more angry if they see the gocernment spending billions on a space fleet but the food stores are constantly empty.
Funnily enough the west is now making the same mistake, except instead of spending tax money on rockets and technology they spend it on foreign aid, which unlike the space race has no upsides at all. First the tragedy, then the farce i guess
God damn i just watched the last video you uploaded a year ago. What perfect timing
nice concept, cursed scenario
btw rip the author
Rip creator of the mod also the most famous focus tree: Bernie go insane and do 9/11 of the timeline
When i played it, bernie got beheaded by bill gates which was pretty bold of the mod
Holy shit Destiny and Vaush are in this mod
HES BACK
Thanks!
3:30 literally me based based based
He Back!
FIIIIINAAAALLLLLY! HE'S BACK!
ThNks!
The economics of this timeline and the way the USA is somehow supposed to eceonomically fail and collapse is whack lmao
Holy shit he's back
I knew you'd return, also I found what happened to the og dev, may the og dev rest in peace 😔
welcome back
See you next year
I have absolutely no idea whether this is a mod made by tankies, or a mod to mock tankies.
Either way, a mod where literally nothing makes any sense.
@BuckyDee2031May he feed the worms well
He’s back!!!
Thanks!
You should make a video on the lore of the Eu4 mod Ante Bellum.
As a tankie i can confirm that we say reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee for everything
Creators of this mod must really hate Reagan...
THE GREAT TRIAL AWAITS!
Edit: Why do you catch a cold halfway through the video?
Lore of What if Russia won the cold war? Red World - 8bit Alternate History momentum 100
5:16 why the cuted word? And what was cut?
Fortunately enough, Red World is older than The New Order, so this is not a purposeful TNO reference.
The return of the King
Thanks!!
Look who's back!
Thanks!
Soviet Union wins because... because they just do okay?
1:31 If less stuff is spent on military? Then wouldn’t they face more destruction from WW2?? Or not because they’d never have an officer purge.
That is after WW2…
I think he meant 1953, not 1935😅
WE ARE SO BACK
Bro's back
What if Japan won the Imjin war?
The Chinese eventually support a Korean Rebellion and kick the Japs out.
Ok now you have to cover Extremis Ultimis, that shit is so much wackier.
Finally!!! I waiting for years
Thanks!
Wait so you talked about Montana but not the American people’s commonwealth? 😂
7:51 I know brother. It sucks to see our Spokane in the chains of fascists
😔
RETURN OF THE KING!!!!
Thanks!
@@LoganProductions I love your videos and I hope you’re doing good!
Alternate video title: "What if Communism actually worked, instead of destroying everything it touched?"
True
holy fuck TNO reference!!111!1!111
Impressive. Very nice.
Thanks!
Ben shapiro as a communist.. its all i couldve ever wanted
I seen an among us 0:55 at the tv
HoI IV mod that doesn't have the US delve into a Civil War challenge (impossible)
red world (geometry dash reference)
HE UPLOADED
Indeed
Keep uploading
Yes
RETURN OF THE KING
Thanks!
what if the Soviet Union reformed into the Union of Soviet Sovereign Republics in 1991, the august coup of 1991 didn’t happen.
What Hoi4 mod lore does to a MF
(makes them sick)
True
3:52 I am sure those words wont age poorly.
TNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO REFERNCE ?!??????????!!!!!?!??!??!?!??!?
Hey man! I hope I'm not mistaken but I think you misplaced the numbers at 00:12
The good ending
*bad
He’s back
7:33 Bro wtf happened to your voice after this point?! You good?
Sick lol
@@LoganProductions True champion
Mich love do more of this kind of content
Yay you’re back I’ve missed these types of videos!
Thanks!
Overall, communists would still be pissed off at the world situation.
See you in a year
🫡
GASP! HE WAS ACTIVE
Indeed
He is BACK
okay, nice, see you next year
And the reds laugh last 🚩🚩🚩🚩
I support the civilian goods idea
yeah kruschev was a bad leader
He is back
He's alive!!!!!!!!
Thanks!
Yippee he’s back :DDDD
lemon
Lol, the jumbo reference