@@chattw6885 Germany had the best leaders actually that's why they conquered Europe in ww2 they'd do that in ww1 too but the trench warfare in ww1 against France made them lose
@@zeqirzeqiri1216 Germany had the biggest industrial base in Europe, so it doing well is expected. What its leaders are supposed to do is use that power well; which they didn't. Germany's actions and lack of diplomatic wisdom saw it lose almost half of its territory in both World Wars and being split in half. In fact, Germany only survived NOT getting dismantled because the Anglo nations didn't want it -it was completely at the mercy of the Allies, and if the US and UK were more cruel, could've simply made Germany disappear forever as the Soviets and French wanted.
@@Reactionary_Harkonnen China at that time was not that powerful. China would be stupid to join the war for Germany since they will have to fight Japan.
@@stc2828 It would just be an earlier version of what played out in WWII. Japan was never able to rush to the heart of China or take the more central parts of it due to lack of resources (they had to gain industries/resources from what they conquered), thus waiting to resupply often or taking a slow inroads approach that they could not afford as an island nation lacking in natural resources. Japan on land is overrated overall and they looked great due to a modernized Navy and discipline. Natural things like disease and the incredibly diverse topography of central China (the damn country is nearly the size of Europe and just as diverse), coupled with insane amounts of manpower, always kept Japan from being able to push fast enough to supply their industry. Not to mention there's a reason why China rose back to prominence so fast. Having an insane amount of people has an exponential effect on industrialization, not a 1 to 1 relationship of having more relative manpower per capita. You can make 10x the mistakes at once and have 1 Eureka moment 10x faster when you have more people. Even scarier is the fact that you can give them a simple part of modern technology and throw them the blueprints to up to date engineering, largely due to private industrial interests of Corporations, and boom, you've let the flood gates open (sounds familiar to the China right now right?). I'm from Taiwan and even today I am disgusted with how easily and willingly TECO allowed tech related factories to pop up across the straight so easily and at such a pace. If anything, the Germans and Americans would have likely continued training Chinese troops and bleeding of tech would lead to what some less creative people would call the "Huawei" effect (let China make I-Phone panels and parts and boom, not long after they are making their own I-Phone). One thing tons of people overlook over and over again is that Britain's success as an "Island Nation" AND "World Juggernaut" was due to their chain of Colonies and incredible Imperialism, masked as trade for literally hundreds of years. They had a well-oiled supply chain both militarily and logistically. They may have been the first nation to truly master the seas in comparison to the rest of the nations (again under some pretense of trade and exploration during the formative/experimental years). As an Island nation you're usually doomed expansion-wise, because you must have supply lines and experience seafaring while having numerous ports (colonies) to resupply and refuel. The British were highly industrialized and logistically sound before truly setting their sights on penetrating the far-east. Japan on the other hand had the "horse before the carriage" and would never have succeeded as their pride got in the way of good sense in a "it'll work its way out, we'll resupply as we conquer don't worry" sense. Completely ignoring the fact that they are going to fight on land they had no experience fighting through, that they would have to snail their way in due to newly established supply chains (causing delays that they can't afford as they need to conquer fast enough for said supplies), and constant recapture/molestation of established inroads the more progress they made/spread out over the area they were. They were doomed to fail as an island nation the moment they set out without securing resources to supply their lengthy and spurious campaign. Japan thought they were England because of their minor victory against Russia, who had arguably been fighting on 4 different fronts (Prussia, Ottomans, China itself, and you can even argue it's own people due to how soon after the Bolsheviks tore the Imperials to shreds). They ran before they could walk, you know the rest..
@@stc2828 Not with US support. Americans are the only one who can change the whole conflict. If American Navy helps the Chinese. They would def join in. The whole game changer was USA and whoever is willingly to support hundreds of millions extra manpower from China. This is exactly what Russia fear on their front. They know the Chinese had better strategies since Mongol invasions and with US tech support it would be unstoppable. That is why Russia is always trying to stay neutral with China and try to use its manpower for support in case some crazy conflict happens to Russia.
so basically The Kaiser was a massive troll: "yellow peril!!!" *10 seconds later "let's ally with the Chinese" "invade the US!!!" *10 seconds later "I love Roosevelt"
well every country is like that. No such thing as loyal friends in world politics. One minute the Europeans were cozying up to each other dividing up Africa and the China, the next their own royal families are slaughtering each other.
Yuan Shikai wasn't just the Grand Councillor of China from 1907-08 - he also crowned himself Emperor of China in 1915, when he briefly restored the Imperial Monarchy. He didn't last long though, as his reign totalled 83 days.
he also served as prime minister of the imperial cabinet from november of 1911 to the qing's collapse by march of 1912. Not to mention the fact he also served as president of the ROC from 1912 to 1916 both provisional and legitimately
@@raclark2730 The Angles and the Saxons were both germanic tribes who invaded the British Isles and are credited with creating the kingdom of England. Wilhelm and Hitler made the faulty assumption that modern-day "Anglo-Saxons" are ethnic cousins with shared values and interests, making a Anglo-German alliance natural.
The History Guy just did a story a few days ago on the German -American standoff in Samoa. A fascinating bit of history about one of the lesser known areas of the United States.
Yup and there was also a second war in 1899, this time involving American troops, which resulted in the partition of Samoa between Germany and America. Wayback history did a video on that one
Just read Roosevelt’s letter on this matter and I have to say, he clearly saw what laid ahead. He also had a good understanding of the American people.
Wilhelm II was incredibly goddamn incompetent: he was emotionally unstable and prone to stupidly useless displays of swagger for stupid reasons as he was always pretentiously trying to show everyone how 'tough' and 'powerful' he was, he also destroyed in a few years the lifetime work of Bismarck, a true political y diplomatic genius unlike Wilhelm II and managed to leave the German Empire in the worst possible position by managing to unite the most powerful European nations against him which caused Germany to fight in to fronts (the same position Bismarck precisely worked to avoid) and only managed to get alliances with the weakest nations (Austro-Hungary and Ottoman Empire).
@@christopherellis2663 Sykes Picot was very logical and not weird at all. The middle East was split into French and British spheres of influence based on each empire's abilities and clout. British had more links and ties in southern Mesopotamia, (Iraq today) and the French had more links and ties in the Levant (Syria Lebanon)
Morocco and Great Britain under Elizabeth I of Tudor were drawing up plans to attack Spain, If it succeeded the Spanish Empire would have been partitioned and Moroccan Brazil would have existed, alongside many other things. this plan failed when the Sultan of Morocco died.
No kidding the changes to history are immense, likely no Russian Communist Revolution, no Chinese Communist Revolution, US seizure of Canada and possibly Northern Mexico if they do ally with Japan, Russian seizure of Mongolia, Manchuria and East Turkestan in the "back stab China" plan meaning Manchuria, East Turkestan and Tibet would all likely be independent nations today, China would not be a world power, Austria-Hungary may still exist in some more integrated EU like form, Two great world powers left would be Germany and an even more powerful US, Russia would be about the same militarily but probably better economically. Ottoman Empire would still collapse IMO.
It's called "TL-191" or "Southern Victory Series" by Harry Turtledove. Imagine the US being an American copy of Prussia down to its military and bureaucracy...
The German Chinese alliance did occur, only after wwi. Both Germany and China were aggrieved by Versailles, and China had a great deal of millitaey cooperation with Germany in the Weimar and early Nazi era, before Hitler decided to go with Japan. One consequence is that Chinese law is very heavily German influenced. Chiang Kaishek sent one son to Germany where he became a Wermacht officer. Another son he sent to Soviet Russia where he married a Russian.
Japan fked up themselves too the whole anti-cominter pact was to include China to strike USSR. Had Japan not invade China. USSR would've had a multi-front war.
@@fot6771 You mean Chinese-German Invasion. USSR doesn't have enough man power to deal with China. With German tech they straight up lose like the early days of Barbarossa. Just imagine German start Barbarossa and out of no where you have panzer tanks coming in the East with 10's of millions of men. USSR instead of sending all her troops at Germany are now completely split. Japan didn't even touch USSR the whole war, they did like a couple of attacks and aimed for China.
@@makemap This isnt a realistic scenario. China didn't had the cabality to start an offensive war. It was in the middle of a civil war. Also it wasnt nearly as modernized as you seem to assume. It wasnt even worth it for them to fight over relativly resource lacking territories.
Theodore being practical as ever realizing defeat was necessary for successful reform and ultimate victory. Truly, looking at our nation today, we never deserved such a great man as a leader.
I’ll say this, had the federal reserve not been created and tied US currency to world banking AKA English banks. I doubt the US would’ve been convinced to join on the side of the British in WW1. I also doubt we would’ve joined the Germans either, the US was pretty isolationist. Only thing they were concerned about pre WW1 was their increasing territorial and colonial assets in the west pacific.
@@BoqPrecision trade is facilitated by currency, currency dictates which exchange network is used. That’s why imperialism and mercantilism were the norm until the bretton woods accord tied all international trade to the dollar and indirectly to English banking control.
@@poonczey The most arrogant powers were Britain and USA, thinking they represent "Liberty" and that their control of the world was justice. Germany was far less ideological and just wanted some imperial splendour.
Mayer they didn’t try to hide their intentions as the us and Britain did thus gaining popular support + they were already more powerful so that’s something
And WW1 would also never happened if Russia ally with Germany. And if you said "France will defend Serbia", you're wrong. Serbia was only guaranteed by the Russians and nothing else. Plus, Serbia wasn't part of the Entente at the Beginning of WW1. So the War would probably be Austro-Serbian War.
I think the Swedish-ottoman ‘alliances’ were interesting, they definitely had sometimes friendly relations due to similar enemies, but I can’t remember if there was ever an official alliance, Sweden during the GNW tried to get the ottomans to fight Russia on their side though
What about the dominion and romulan non aggression pact? Or how Bajor delayed their entry into the federation to stay neutral in the war and how vreenak had to be assassinated to get the romulans involved. Quite an unusual situation the dominion war was.
Bajor is a superstitious backwater anyway. The UFP should of handed it over to Cardassia to solidify an alliance against the Dominion. A united Alpha quadrant could of ended the war years earlier.
I thought of an Ottoman - Japanesr Alliance, I believe because both of them opposed Russia they could have formed something, as the Ottomans did have a bit of Influence in east Asia, and wanted revenge for the Russo Turkish war in 1877, so Maybe if this happened it could have weird effects
I don’t understand why the US would need to lose the initial battle with invading Japan to be able to ultimately succeed. Why not, I don’t know, organize correctly at first? Is he saying we wouldn’t have the heart to fight until we lose a battle on US soil? Teddy Roosevelt was a fucking psycho lol
Last comment for the day, if the Kaiser had been more far sighted, he could have weaken the British Empire without firing a shot by strengthening her competitors whether friendly or not. The British had a disparage empire all cross the world (hardly continous); he could have divided what would later be the "grand" fleet by forcing the British to divert resources to defend across their Empire. The Brits were good diplomats during that period. By prevent tensions from rising with the US, they avoid a potential war in Canada and by allying with Japan, it meant fewer resources for Asia. The weakness of China and lesser degree Russia (especially after the war in Korea) made them holding India far more easily (this is even after the Indian rebellions). The British were extradionary lucky and capable in exploiting asymetries of history to maintain a non-continous empire. Most impressed how long they held India and Africa. They could have held it far longer had there been no labor government after WWII.
If the kaisers got some Chinese tacticians in the military. The whole trench warfare in WW1 will be completely different. We all know Chinese have the best strategists.
@@stc2828 They won through tech superiority. Japan still fking lost in WW2. Japanese got advantage on Korea and China by joining opium war group. If it was Japan vs China only. Japan wouldn't make it past Korea. Chinese didn't have the production capability to produce modern tech of WW1 let alone WW2. They were all bought.
Joseph Chamberlain tried to create an alliance between USA, UK and Germany, but the Germans rejected it as it put them as a junior partner, even better they mocked the UK, shortly afterwards we designed the entente. The Kaisar was a complete moron.
Prince Otto on Bismarck was a master diplomat. Kaiser Wilhelm II was a petulant petty man who didn't think two steps ahead. It's unfortunate that he never learned from his mistakes here or properly took control of the German bureaucracy. Had he done so, he could have prevented World War 1 even in July 1914. Instead, he went on vacation
Wasn’t Kaiser Wilhelm the one who first coined the term “yellow peril” and told colonial German soldiers in China to be ruthless and behave like “Huns” (hence the nickname)? Why would they ally with him?
Great work on the video, Jabzy. Your last few videos have been excellent. I've learned a lot about stuff I would otherwise never know about. I'm curious though, why is the lettering for President Taft blurred out in this video?
Not terribly strange but still not something we saw much of in history, a Serbo-Norman alliance between the Doclean “Kings of the Slavs” (it’s just a title the pope gave the Serbian king for nominally supporting him, no grand implications) & the Normans in focused on combatting Byzantine influence. Durres seems to have been a core point of interest.
Man, you have some of the most interesting videos on youtube, but you are undermining yourself with the loud music. The music itself is great but the volume of it drives me crazy. I can't concentrate on what you are saying...
0:32 Ah. Sir. You have a bird on your head. Ah. You might, might want to do something about that. Before, ah, it poops on you or something. Yah. G'day.
The British burned the White House. The Canadians got their ass kicked, but eventually managed to beat back US militias with British aid. And at the time, the White House was just that. A white house. It wasn't anything important, unlike today. The real danger was destroying NYC or Philadelphia.
Why do Canadians say this shit. Canada didn’t exist at the time. It was North American territory under British control. The way was against Britain not Canada, which didn’t exist at the time. It was British Regulars that burnt down the White House.
It would be interesting to see a modern alliance between USA, China, Germany, Japan, UK, South Korea, Canada, Taiwan, France, Hong Kong, Macau, Singapore, Netherlands, Denmark, Belgium, Luxembourg, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Switzerland
And suddenly, the endless amounts of HOI4 modes are suddenly created.
we'll see it in vicky3
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@@electricmushroomking6643 are you pagan?
Germany: "I want more allies!"
Also Germany: *Literally did everything to gain more enemies than allies*
Germany prob had the worst leaders you could have in the early 20th century
@@chattw6885 Germany had the best leaders actually that's why they conquered Europe in ww2 they'd do that in ww1 too but the trench warfare in ww1 against France made them lose
@@zeqirzeqiri1216 Germany had the biggest industrial base in Europe, so it doing well is expected. What its leaders are supposed to do is use that power well; which they didn't. Germany's actions and lack of diplomatic wisdom saw it lose almost half of its territory in both World Wars and being split in half. In fact, Germany only survived NOT getting dismantled because the Anglo nations didn't want it -it was completely at the mercy of the Allies, and if the US and UK were more cruel, could've simply made Germany disappear forever as the Soviets and French wanted.
@@zeqirzeqiri1216 Germany had best military generals and army, but even with that they managed to lose because of poor political leaders.
@@stephenjenkins7971 i agree
Then WW1 would have been more interesting
Chinese manpower, American industry, and German martial tradition. This alliance sounds terrifying.
Oh yeah....
@@Reactionary_Harkonnen China at that time was not that powerful. China would be stupid to join the war for Germany since they will have to fight Japan.
@@stc2828 It would just be an earlier version of what played out in WWII. Japan was never able to rush to the heart of China or take the more central parts of it due to lack of resources (they had to gain industries/resources from what they conquered), thus waiting to resupply often or taking a slow inroads approach that they could not afford as an island nation lacking in natural resources. Japan on land is overrated overall and they looked great due to a modernized Navy and discipline. Natural things like disease and the incredibly diverse topography of central China (the damn country is nearly the size of Europe and just as diverse), coupled with insane amounts of manpower, always kept Japan from being able to push fast enough to supply their industry. Not to mention there's a reason why China rose back to prominence so fast. Having an insane amount of people has an exponential effect on industrialization, not a 1 to 1 relationship of having more relative manpower per capita. You can make 10x the mistakes at once and have 1 Eureka moment 10x faster when you have more people. Even scarier is the fact that you can give them a simple part of modern technology and throw them the blueprints to up to date engineering, largely due to private industrial interests of Corporations, and boom, you've let the flood gates open (sounds familiar to the China right now right?). I'm from Taiwan and even today I am disgusted with how easily and willingly TECO allowed tech related factories to pop up across the straight so easily and at such a pace. If anything, the Germans and Americans would have likely continued training Chinese troops and bleeding of tech would lead to what some less creative people would call the "Huawei" effect (let China make I-Phone panels and parts and boom, not long after they are making their own I-Phone).
One thing tons of people overlook over and over again is that Britain's success as an "Island Nation" AND "World Juggernaut" was due to their chain of Colonies and incredible Imperialism, masked as trade for literally hundreds of years. They had a well-oiled supply chain both militarily and logistically. They may have been the first nation to truly master the seas in comparison to the rest of the nations (again under some pretense of trade and exploration during the formative/experimental years). As an Island nation you're usually doomed expansion-wise, because you must have supply lines and experience seafaring while having numerous ports (colonies) to resupply and refuel. The British were highly industrialized and logistically sound before truly setting their sights on penetrating the far-east. Japan on the other hand had the "horse before the carriage" and would never have succeeded as their pride got in the way of good sense in a "it'll work its way out, we'll resupply as we conquer don't worry" sense. Completely ignoring the fact that they are going to fight on land they had no experience fighting through, that they would have to snail their way in due to newly established supply chains (causing delays that they can't afford as they need to conquer fast enough for said supplies), and constant recapture/molestation of established inroads the more progress they made/spread out over the area they were. They were doomed to fail as an island nation the moment they set out without securing resources to supply their lengthy and spurious campaign. Japan thought they were England because of their minor victory against Russia, who had arguably been fighting on 4 different fronts (Prussia, Ottomans, China itself, and you can even argue it's own people due to how soon after the Bolsheviks tore the Imperials to shreds). They ran before they could walk, you know the rest..
@@stc2828 Not with US support. Americans are the only one who can change the whole conflict. If American Navy helps the Chinese. They would def join in. The whole game changer was USA and whoever is willingly to support hundreds of millions extra manpower from China. This is exactly what Russia fear on their front. They know the Chinese had better strategies since Mongol invasions and with US tech support it would be unstoppable. That is why Russia is always trying to stay neutral with China and try to use its manpower for support in case some crazy conflict happens to Russia.
so basically
The Kaiser was a massive troll:
"yellow peril!!!" *10 seconds later "let's ally with the Chinese"
"invade the US!!!" *10 seconds later "I love Roosevelt"
Donald Trump in his previous life
tbf it was quite common to have invasion plans "just in case"
Wilhelm was truly a clown, undid all of Bismarck's careful work.
well every country is like that. No such thing as loyal friends in world politics. One minute the Europeans were cozying up to each other dividing up Africa and the China, the next their own royal families are slaughtering each other.
Alliances were very unstable at that time.
Yuan Shikai wasn't just the Grand Councillor of China from 1907-08 - he also crowned himself Emperor of China in 1915, when he briefly restored the Imperial Monarchy. He didn't last long though, as his reign totalled 83 days.
Oh yeah - just added the info in for his position during these negotiations.
he also served as prime minister of the imperial cabinet from november of 1911 to the qing's collapse by march of 1912. Not to mention the fact he also served as president of the ROC from 1912 to 1916 both provisional and legitimately
@@JabzyJoe no you didn’t
“[Germany] had completely misread the situation.”
They’d do this a lot in the next few decades.
@Jasta 2 beady eyes, Anglo lies
@Jasta 2 There’s a reason God didn’t trust them in the shade: the British have less honor than Americans when making treaties with natives.
@@elemperadordemexico Who were the Anglos or Angles do you now I think not, They were in fact a Germanic tribe.
@@thevoidlookspretty7079 America honored treaties with the natives did they.
@@raclark2730 The Angles and the Saxons were both germanic tribes who invaded the British Isles and are credited with creating the kingdom of England.
Wilhelm and Hitler made the faulty assumption that modern-day "Anglo-Saxons" are ethnic cousins with shared values and interests, making a Anglo-German alliance natural.
I once played as China in Victoria II and managed to ally France, Russia, Germany , Italy, Spain and Japan. Yuan didn't try enough obviously.
Which China did you play? Qing or Taiping? Republic or communist Republic?
@@qyyllamas8889 Constitutional Qing Empire of course
@@santi2683 if China went that path, China will be better than now
@@qyyllamas8889 we got the bad timeline
@@santi2683 How do you solve the Han-Manchu problem in game
The History Guy just did a story a few days ago on the German -American standoff in Samoa. A fascinating bit of history about one of the lesser known areas of the United States.
Yup and there was also a second war in 1899, this time involving American troops, which resulted in the partition of Samoa between Germany and America. Wayback history did a video on that one
You mean colonies of the United States?
Just read Roosevelt’s letter on this matter and I have to say, he clearly saw what laid ahead. He also had a good understanding of the American people.
I'm the artist for the thumbnail if anyone is interested😊
Nice style, you should've done the whole video
@@verysmartultrahuman939 hopefully in the future.
Your Chinese leader face is so smooth while Roosevelt is so ragged and chiseled and wrinkly?
@@BoqPrecision I didn't do the lighting correctly as for the wrinkles teddy was supposedly old, thanks for the reply
Good job
Wilhelm II was incredibly goddamn incompetent: he was emotionally unstable and prone to stupidly useless displays of swagger for stupid reasons as he was always pretentiously trying to show everyone how 'tough' and 'powerful' he was, he also destroyed in a few years the lifetime work of Bismarck, a true political y diplomatic genius unlike Wilhelm II and managed to leave the German Empire in the worst possible position by managing to unite the most powerful European nations against him which caused Germany to fight in to fronts (the same position Bismarck precisely worked to avoid) and only managed to get alliances with the weakest nations (Austro-Hungary and Ottoman Empire).
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What is the weirdest alliance plan ever thought of by diplomats
Sykes-Picot Agreement 1915
England sent envoys Persia, to form an alliance against the Mongols XIV century
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Stalin + Churchill + Roosevelt
@@christopherellis2663 Sykes Picot was very logical and not weird at all. The middle East was split into French and British spheres of influence based on each empire's abilities and clout. British had more links and ties in southern Mesopotamia, (Iraq today) and the French had more links and ties in the Levant (Syria Lebanon)
Morocco and Great Britain under Elizabeth I of Tudor were drawing up plans to attack Spain, If it succeeded the Spanish Empire would have been partitioned and Moroccan Brazil would have existed, alongside many other things. this plan failed when the Sultan of Morocco died.
This would make an amazing alternate history
No kidding the changes to history are immense, likely no Russian Communist Revolution, no Chinese Communist Revolution, US seizure of Canada and possibly Northern Mexico if they do ally with Japan, Russian seizure of Mongolia, Manchuria and East Turkestan in the "back stab China" plan meaning Manchuria, East Turkestan and Tibet would all likely be independent nations today, China would not be a world power, Austria-Hungary may still exist in some more integrated EU like form, Two great world powers left would be Germany and an even more powerful US, Russia would be about the same militarily but probably better economically. Ottoman Empire would still collapse IMO.
It's called "TL-191" or "Southern Victory Series" by Harry Turtledove. Imagine the US being an American copy of Prussia down to its military and bureaucracy...
The German Chinese alliance did occur, only after wwi. Both Germany and China were aggrieved by Versailles, and China had a great deal of millitaey cooperation with Germany in the Weimar and early Nazi era, before Hitler decided to go with Japan. One consequence is that Chinese law is very heavily German influenced.
Chiang Kaishek sent one son to Germany where he became a Wermacht officer. Another son he sent to Soviet Russia where he married a Russian.
Japan fked up themselves too the whole anti-cominter pact was to include China to strike USSR. Had Japan not invade China. USSR would've had a multi-front war.
I don't think the USSR could have survived a joint German-Japanese invasion
@@fot6771 You mean Chinese-German Invasion. USSR doesn't have enough man power to deal with China. With German tech they straight up lose like the early days of Barbarossa. Just imagine German start Barbarossa and out of no where you have panzer tanks coming in the East with 10's of millions of men. USSR instead of sending all her troops at Germany are now completely split. Japan didn't even touch USSR the whole war, they did like a couple of attacks and aimed for China.
@@makemap This isnt a realistic scenario. China didn't had the cabality to start an offensive war. It was in the middle of a civil war. Also it wasnt nearly as modernized as you seem to assume. It wasnt even worth it for them to fight over relativly resource lacking territories.
@@makemap I see that you answered me in my notifications but i cant see the comment. Thanks youtube.
One interesting alternate alliance is the one the Byzantines wanted with Tang China against the Caliphate after the fall of Sassanid Persia
interesting video, the amounts of alliances and treaties pre WW1 probably deserve videos on thier own. I really enjoy the new content
Theodore being practical as ever realizing defeat was necessary for successful reform and ultimate victory. Truly, looking at our nation today, we never deserved such a great man as a leader.
Please make a video on the almost German Mexican Alliance, not just the Zimmermann telegram
Most terrifying thumbnail in existence, I thought I was still krunk.
I too think you were krunk
@@MrAsianPie Krunk, gneurshk, ooga booga
Kaiser Wilhelm may be history's worst diplomat.
I’ll say this, had the federal reserve not been created and tied US currency to world banking AKA English banks. I doubt the US would’ve been convinced to join on the side of the British in WW1. I also doubt we would’ve joined the Germans either, the US was pretty isolationist. Only thing they were concerned about pre WW1 was their increasing territorial and colonial assets in the west pacific.
International trade will always tie you to the rest of the world, and not just banking.
@@BoqPrecision trade is facilitated by currency, currency dictates which exchange network is used. That’s why imperialism and mercantilism were the norm until the bretton woods accord tied all international trade to the dollar and indirectly to English banking control.
Germany was definitely the most diplomatically inept of the Great Powers.
As it still is. Arrogance won't get you many friends.
Bismarck was truly a one off...
@@poonczey The most arrogant powers were Britain and USA, thinking they represent "Liberty" and that their control of the world was justice. Germany was far less ideological and just wanted some imperial splendour.
Mayer they didn’t try to hide their intentions as the us and Britain did thus gaining popular support + they were already more powerful so that’s something
@@die1mayer I'd say trying to "uphold freedom" is at least more justifiable than wanting more imperial "splendor"
Wilhelm's foreign policy was oscillating. Anyway an alliance between France and Germany was impossible due to Alsace
Could be cool having a WW1 in Asia. With the US,Germans,Chinise and Russians fighting the British,Japanise and French.
That would never happen because the purpose of WW1 was to dismantle Ottoman and Austria-Hungary and take the spoils.
And WW1 would also never happened if Russia ally with Germany. And if you said "France will defend Serbia", you're wrong. Serbia was only guaranteed by the Russians and nothing else. Plus, Serbia wasn't part of the Entente at the Beginning of WW1. So the War would probably be Austro-Serbian War.
@@TheStarcoMarco Seem to be everyone hated the Austrians.
I think the Swedish-ottoman ‘alliances’ were interesting, they definitely had sometimes friendly relations due to similar enemies, but I can’t remember if there was ever an official alliance, Sweden during the GNW tried to get the ottomans to fight Russia on their side though
What about the dominion and romulan non aggression pact? Or how Bajor delayed their entry into the federation to stay neutral in the war and how vreenak had to be assassinated to get the romulans involved. Quite an unusual situation the dominion war was.
I can live with it
Bajor is a superstitious backwater anyway. The UFP should of handed it over to Cardassia to solidify an alliance against the Dominion. A united Alpha quadrant could of ended the war years earlier.
6:45 well, yeah, pretty much how it happened 30 something years later with another Roosevelt in office
A new video, another 10 minutes of expanding my historical knowledge and ignoring my responsibilities.
A good deal if you ask me
Alliances that Germany 🇩🇪 would be farther better alliance with 🏴
I feel like being Englend bitch, after winning independent is redundant
I thought of an Ottoman - Japanesr Alliance, I believe because both of them opposed Russia they could have formed something, as the Ottomans did have a bit of Influence in east Asia, and wanted revenge for the Russo Turkish war in 1877, so Maybe if this happened it could have weird effects
There were civil wars in the Ottoman empire.
@@Dalmenco It could be possible
I don’t understand why the US would need to lose the initial battle with invading Japan to be able to ultimately succeed. Why not, I don’t know, organize correctly at first? Is he saying we wouldn’t have the heart to fight until we lose a battle on US soil? Teddy Roosevelt was a fucking psycho lol
Last comment for the day, if the Kaiser had been more far sighted, he could have weaken the British Empire without firing a shot by strengthening her competitors whether friendly or not. The British had a disparage empire all cross the world (hardly continous); he could have divided what would later be the "grand" fleet by forcing the British to divert resources to defend across their Empire.
The Brits were good diplomats during that period. By prevent tensions from rising with the US, they avoid a potential war in Canada and by allying with Japan, it meant fewer resources for Asia. The weakness of China and lesser degree Russia (especially after the war in Korea) made them holding India far more easily (this is even after the Indian rebellions). The British were extradionary lucky and capable in exploiting asymetries of history to maintain a non-continous empire. Most impressed how long they held India and Africa. They could have held it far longer had there been no labor government after WWII.
An American-German-Chinese alliance? Interesting
If the kaisers got some Chinese tacticians in the military. The whole trench warfare in WW1 will be completely different. We all know Chinese have the best strategists.
German kaiser was right, but he couldn't get it to happen.
@@makemap Japanese WW1 army would easily win against China...
@@stc2828 They won through tech superiority. Japan still fking lost in WW2. Japanese got advantage on Korea and China by joining opium war group. If it was Japan vs China only. Japan wouldn't make it past Korea. Chinese didn't have the production capability to produce modern tech of WW1 let alone WW2. They were all bought.
I mean, they were off by a 100 years, but those are 2 good countries to be friends with... If you can pull it off.
I wish this would have worked out. German empire was so great and China would not be so fucked up today if this worked.
Joseph Chamberlain tried to create an alliance between USA, UK and Germany, but the Germans rejected it as it put them as a junior partner, even better they mocked the UK, shortly afterwards we designed the entente. The Kaisar was a complete moron.
One weird alliance i can think of is all the european colonialist alliances with natives such as the French iroquois alliance.
What an incredibly odd alliance that would also be incredibly overpowered (on paper at least) if it happened.
As to the weirdest alliences, how about "the (WW2) Allies"?
The text of the thumbnail remained me of actor names over movie posters. They lack synergy and I'm more bothered by it than I'd like to admit. xD
Prince Otto on Bismarck was a master diplomat. Kaiser Wilhelm II was a petulant petty man who didn't think two steps ahead. It's unfortunate that he never learned from his mistakes here or properly took control of the German bureaucracy. Had he done so, he could have prevented World War 1 even in July 1914. Instead, he went on vacation
Ah yes, convertible Iron Chancellor
Two eagles and a dragon walk into a bar...
The Franco-Hyderabad alliance seemed quite wacky.
Suggestions:
-Piracy in antiquity
-Spanish conquest of the Canary islands
William Howard Taft’s Presidency (1909-1913).
Not Austro-Hungary. Austria-Hungary. ‘Austro-Hungarian’ is the adjective.
Wasn’t Kaiser Wilhelm the one who first coined the term “yellow peril” and told colonial German soldiers in China to be ruthless and behave like “Huns” (hence the nickname)? Why would they ally with him?
Did he really say to his soldaten behave like Huns?
I guess that british propaganda poster calling german soldaten huns was not all wrong.
Great work on the video, Jabzy. Your last few videos have been excellent. I've learned a lot about stuff I would otherwise never know about. I'm curious though, why is the lettering for President Taft blurred out in this video?
Got the dates wrong ha.
@@JabzyJoe Fair enough, ha ha! Thanks for the reply as well as all your great content over the years!
Diplomacy brought Germany into the spotlight, but also into Britain and France's crosshairs
So much alliance overlap, that you may end up kicking your own @ss in a war because those a-holes allied with you enemy.
Crazy foresight Ted had, in retrospect.
What was the crucial mistake in 1890 i wonder? Also, an historical alliance that I find strange is the swedish ottoman alliance of the 18th century.
The Monophysite + early Islamic caliphate alliance against Byzantine Roman Empire...In Syria and Egypt.
@@BoqPrecision And the Jewish alliance with the Umayyads in Spain against the Visigoths.
Good video but you being a cartoon hipster sitting in a library is super cheesy.
This alliance would of crushed the French & limies
So..... This is what unholy alliance means.
What Do you mean! The most Blessed Alliance.
Diplomatic history is so complex, lol.
The title sounds like a nightmare on steroids
Never knew this
Wilhelm II was a disastrous Kaiser.
Looks like no editing errors this time.
What about the Anglo Alliance (US, UK, Germany) that was pushed for a hot minute in the late 19/early 20th century?
Not terribly strange but still not something we saw much of in history, a Serbo-Norman alliance between the Doclean “Kings of the Slavs” (it’s just a title the pope gave the Serbian king for nominally supporting him, no grand implications) & the Normans in focused on combatting Byzantine influence. Durres seems to have been a core point of interest.
Man, you have some of the most interesting videos on youtube, but you are undermining yourself with the loud music. The music itself is great but the volume of it drives me crazy. I can't concentrate on what you are saying...
Did the Kaiser really refer to northwestern china as East Turkestan?
East Turkestan is a fake name initiated by Joseph Stalin. It would be Xinjiang or just Uyghurstan.
@@yeshiyangzom8532 If Stalin said so, so it is.
This actually would have worked if the circumstances were different, holy shit. This is pretty tactical tbh
A nazi-soviet alliance is the scariest one i can think of. There is no way that it would've lasted, but its still a fascinating thought.
Christ the Victorian era was really a man eats man world. Temporary alliances for the moment so long as it benefits me
0:32 Ah. Sir. You have a bird on your head. Ah. You might, might want to do something about that. Before, ah, it poops on you or something. Yah. G'day.
If only he succeded, no modern rivaly between these two giants 😪
Would’ve been a good idea!!!!
Could’ve possibly turned the tide of the war
What are your sources? They sound like interesting books to read
boo-er not boar lol
its lke three kingdoms on steroids-mess like what he said...
"You, yellow peril, wanna get allied?"
The dream
Do video on Chiapas Rebellion.
Surrounded by.
Surrounded themselves with.
So basically the best timeline
Fear governs humanity
Imagine if such chaotic alliances happened in WW2, "German Reich joins the Comintern"
What’s that line about secret treaties again???
sounds like deja Vu.
What's the music?
I’m confused...
who really won the great game?
I love the new style
Another great video :)
first :-)
The US invaded Canada once before. They got their arse handed to them on a platter. Oh, and the White House got burned in revenge!
The British burned the White House. The Canadians got their ass kicked, but eventually managed to beat back US militias with British aid.
And at the time, the White House was just that. A white house. It wasn't anything important, unlike today. The real danger was destroying NYC or Philadelphia.
Why do Canadians say this shit. Canada didn’t exist at the time. It was North American territory under British control. The way was against Britain not Canada, which didn’t exist at the time. It was British Regulars that burnt down the White House.
It would be interesting to see a modern alliance between USA, China, Germany, Japan, UK, South Korea, Canada, Taiwan, France, Hong Kong, Macau, Singapore, Netherlands, Denmark, Belgium, Luxembourg, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Switzerland