What If Reform UK FAIL⁉️
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- What If Reform UK FAIL⁉️ so many people in this country are pinning there hopes on Reform and Nigel Farage someone has to ask the question, what if?
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Liebour will be a disaster, they do not have a clue. VOTE REFORM UK for real and needed change.
Deformed uk.
Whoever gets in the £££ cupboard is bare...the more invaders arrive the poorer we get. I'd be happy for reform to be the main opposition and watch Labour try and sort the mess out. I can't wait 😆
@@The-General36 Absolutely, haven't you been listening ? £20k tax threshold, which means everyone will benefit, especially millions of the low paid and state pensioners, whereas Labour have said they will not reduce your taxes, which means they are refusing to raise the tax threshold dragging more and more low paid and pensioners into paying income tax for the first time from next April, Reform will prevent that from happening.
They also want to remove VAT from energy bills, take back control of our utility companies, stopping all those profits from going to stakeholders in France, Germany etc.
Raise the VAT threshold to £150k meaning small businesses don't have to charge you and other customers VAT on any services or goods, such as my son-in-law who runs a kitchen fitting business, at the moment his turnover is right on the present VAT threshold, but soon with inflation means his turnover will exceed the present rate of VAT next year, which in turn he will have to pass that 20% VAT onto his prices, if it's raised as Reform have said, would be a saving for everyone who needs a new kitchen hundreds of pounds if the VAT threshold is lifted to £150k from around £85k as it is now . . . . What's not to like !
@@The-General36 Go to the reform website and read the contact with the people all your answers are there
Vote Labour keep Reform out.
Reform must not fail. Any other party will be a disaster for the UK.🇬🇧🏴🏴🏴
You have lost
Every Brexit voter should vote Reform UK.
And brexit has been great 🤔
Every person more like
They won't fail. They have the best interests of Britain and the British people in their minds and hearts. Vote Reform UK 24.7.24. 🇬🇧 🏴 🏴 🏴 🇮🇪 ✝️. ❤️
They cant win dont you understand the first past the post system?
We are seeing the biggest upset in political history and the main parties are in panic mode. VOTE REFORM. If you look at the policies of the REFORM party and then make your mind up.
You cant win you are talking ridiculous.
The main problem is not just the Politicians it is the Civil servants. That is the real battle here and it is not going to be easy.
The main problem is the British electorate, who seem to have an insatiable appetite for being shafted.
Spot on. The 'Blob' has got to be dealt with and liebour and the selfservatives ain't going to do it.
Reform have the Snivel Serpents in their cross hairs.
A vote for Reform is worth the risk 😊
People in the comments don’t want a plan B... guess it’s why we’re in this mess to begin with..
The huge possibility that Reform are liars like everybody before them, or just incapable, hasn’t even crept into your tiny skulls yet.
How much time do we let them waste before we decide they’re not fixing anything?
Don’t say years…
If they’re in our interest.. The system itself will stand in their way. While it implements changes we don’t want.
It took Labour 20 years to oust the Liberals as the 2nd party.
If Reform can do it quicker than that , it will be some achievement.
We haven't got 20years to waste. The quicker, the better.
I think Andy is being a bit pessimistic here , we have had decades of failure , after failure , in this country , from BOTH the main Partys , ( and undoubtedly at least five more years , with Starmer leading ) , so what the hell have we got to lose , trying out NEW Partys , nobodys got a crystal ball , it could turn out to be the Best thing to happen here , what Parliament NEEDS is a Real opposition Party , that WILL hold the Government to account , and definitely not , a bunch of nodding dogs , just going through the motions , who are just taking their paychecks and perks for granted , with no real effort to do anything in return .
A startup for parties is a lot quicker these days with digital communication, but the left has hijacked a lot of the digital platforms.
Let’s pray for a miracle
@@mickman0073 Not going to happen you cant win.
If Reform are as bad as the other two we haven't lost anything.
That is the simple truth of the matter but we still have a majority of people who have had a few doses of labour and Tory, and have paid the price - BUT !!! They will go out and beg for another kicking by voting Labour ?? Stupid is as stupid does !
@@aidiessor they will sit at home and not vote to make a "protest".
That just means they will go with the flow that others determine instead of being a part of changing it. If everyone refused to vote except for 1 voter in each constituency as far as I know the result would still stand. No one is going to say the result is null and void because the furnout is too low.
Much better to vote against the uniparty.
This of course assumes the votes are counted properly.
We lose another five years .
@@stewartmitchell4088What happens if everyone, and I mean EVERYONE, in the country, doesn't vote?
@@stewartmitchell4088 Never mind, Chat GPT answered it.
If absolutely nobody voted in a UK general election, it would create an unprecedented constitutional crisis. There are no specific laws detailing what would happen if no votes were cast, but it would likely lead to serious discussions and potentially new legislation to address the situation. Ultimately, the political system would have to find a way to ensure representation and governance despite the lack of voter participation.
Vote Reform
No way
Manifestos should be legally binding. We did not vote for mass immigration or net zero, yet we got it by the bucket load.
Never asked, just dictated to.
The immigration track record of these treacherous charlatans through the decades speaks volumes. Yet the Great British electorate has insisted on voting for them. That was where they made their choice.
And still going to get it with Labour. I don’t mind admitting I am fearful of what’s ahead of us!
@@susanbiggs5923 As I am as well, and should our worst fears come to pass, then (and I don't like saying this ) the only course of action will not be through the ballot box.
Even if Nigel Fails he would have given it his best shot, he Cannot help the hive minds of the lemmings.
Spot on.
Why insult those who don't share you views . Maybe you have the hive mind to support Reform. We do live in a democracy & vote for the best party as we see fit.
Unfortunately a large majority don't consider what is best and vote the way they and their family have always voted!
@@andrewpepper8031even though the Uniparty have proven time and time again they are not the best? They are not anywhere close. As for your comment about insulting those who don't have his views, what do you suggest ? We go throw milkshakes and cement at them instead? Or we trash the place like in France over Lepens gains?
@@andrewpepper8031 insulting those who don't share his views? Well I suppose we could throw milkshakes and cement at them instead?
FFS don't start waving the white flag already....get out and vote Reform to make sure they win!
Forget Reform because they will forget you because after the election you won’t hear from them again so think what you are voting for and remember Forage was in UKIP and you don’t see them anymore
Nope I'm not voting for any political party scum
@@katharinereynolds25Don’t comment then afterwards…
@@katharinereynolds25 Your choice, but doing nothing....will change nothing.
Reform will be getting my vote.
Not voting or spoiling your ballot paper solves nothing. Vote REFORM if you want to reclaim your Country.
@@sloooog Labour have already won.
I hope Reform wins. Wow, Nigel will be PM.
Ha ha ha ha! hilarious! not possible.
What a waste of a notion this is
Be positive and get behind reform!
Yes get behind satan.
Don't forget when you go to vote. Take a pen with you. Because a pencil mark can be rubbed out.🤔🏴
Good point!
Are not pencils a legal uses thing?
I've just looked it up and it says there's no legal requirement to use pencil and you can take your own pen or pencil. Pencils are just provided for convenience
@@3D_Printing no
Please, please, please, take an indelible pen when voting!
Our whole election system needs to change. We need PR now.
I think if Reform win a massive share of the votes, but the resulting seats are really low, especially compared with the share Lib Dems might get, then it will at least provide more evidence that the current system doesn’t work and we need PR.
we need direct democracy.
We voted against that already .
@@Electriclentilman No we did not. The system that wAS PROPOSED WAS NOT PROPORTIONAL AND IT WAS PUT UP BECAUSE IT WAS POINTLESS.
@@Electriclentilman Wrong, we voted against AV
It's up to us to make sure he doesn't...we have to get over 3 weeks of dirty tricks to get over.
Ha ha ha ha!
I DO NOT CONSENT to any party that does not recognise England , Scotland, Wales and Ireland as sovereign countries in their own right. Britain is a political union not a country. 🏴🏴🏴🇮🇪
England Scotland N Ireland and Wales are not sovereign country's only the UK is look at youre passport Ireland is nothing to do with the UK and is a separate country altogether with its own Government and head of state
we need a reform and the only way they can get into government is for all of us to vote for them but there are too many idiots that want things to carry on the way they are
You mean there's not enough neo-fascists to rally around Farage.
And we will win you hands down.
They wont fail if everybody gets of there arses and votes for them Reform UK
Look what happened in London, everyone moaning about ULEZ and Khan yet they are both still there.
@@martinoconnor4314 Because nobody got of there arse's loads never voted .. so he got in again
@@mikecrimlis3366 Lol, there are more non Muslims in London than there are Muslims, it was down to laziness not ethnicity.
@@martinoconnor4314 Khan is a very disliked man in London, he got back in due to people not voting.
@@donnaspeer2760 I know yet people keep blaming Khan getting back in due to the minority Muslim vote which is absolute crap! He got in because other Londoners couldn't be bothered to vote!
Then we all lose. Pick ourselves up and carry on campaigning. Never give up, never surrender.
Plenty of campers these days
Exactly!
Ha ha ha ha ha! ok captain pugwash
Andy. Be POSITIVE!!! Whats the alternative? The Uniparty- again? Just get behind Nigel and at least we will have some kind of opposition. If theyre not as good as we hoped well at least we tried something different to the serial offenders? Go Nigel!!!!
I don't think it's unreasonable to wonder what happens should the worst come about. I am voting for Reform, BUT that's no reason to stop thinking about all possible scenarios
Define 'fail'? Any number of votes taken away from the Terrible Two would be a success in my book.
IF THE BRITISH PUBLIC VOTE LABOUR OR TORY BACK INTO POWER THEY DESERVE EVERYTHING THAT IS COMING give REFORM A CHANCE
REFORM HAVE NO CHANCE,
We need change. Vote for Lab/Con/Libdem, you get the same. If you don't vote, you get the same. Vote for change, vote Reform. If they fail, at least we tried. Can't do anything else can we. REFORM.
I will have to stand as a Reform candidate
Yes please ..
There are so many towns to be filled..
Otherwise those that want to vote for Reform won't get a chance as their name won't appear on the ballot paper 😫
Stand in the middle of the road.
Surely Nigel can't be worse than the two WEF members in Rishi & Starmer, we need to kick out the power they have over us by Klaus & co.
The people of this country who vote the same old over and over ..
Need to make that change .. what’s to lose ? Look at the mess of this country …
If REFORM fail the consequences are going to be catastrophic for years to come !
It's time for change Vote REFORM who knows until we try after all they certainly can't
be any worse ????
You cant win.
We need to vote Reform to break the cycle of two party politics, it will then encourage the rise of other parties and give us real choice . It starts with us , i do not consent just means i go with whoever shouts loudest , and we see who that is every weekend on the streets of London
An ex nurse who now has her own successful business dog grooming told me she was voting Reform this time. I never thought I would hear that from her....
If REFORM fail they will just need to play the long game, building support, but I see that the growing damand for electoral change will bolster support for REFORM ready for future elections. We need to maintain our support.
@kenneths1585 Its simple THEY WONT FAIL. They have the policies fit for the 21st century unlike the Prehistoric parties.
If you put ‘I DO NOT CONSENT’ on the ballot card it will be marked as SPOILT and your vote will be wasted. Vote REFORM - Nigel Farage always answers the questions put to him and I believe him to be truthful and honest
Labour and Conservative....We've Already had 10 Million MORE immigrants on their watch....!!!!!!!
Vote reform. We need chainge. If they fail then we have lost nothing as labour and Conservatives will not do any better than they have done in the past. But if we dont give reform a chance to succeed, then we will never know. We definitely do know how the others will run the country. Its a no-brainer to me
@Andy we have to save ourselves and remove the overlords ❤ I DO NOT CONSENT TO THE SLAVE SYSTEM
its the civil service that controls what happens
The WEF
@@3D_Printing yes maybe, but the civil service is boots on ground, they are the ones that has stopped the rwanda deal.
@bernadettebrown1852 REFORM said they would sort the problem with the civil servants if they dont do their job they get the sack. Thats good enough for me.
@@ThePixey1000 Jacob rees mogg already got rid of loads, and i dont see a difference
I don't think I could vote conservative or labour ever again, I have to give Reform a chance , I've lost count of Prime ministers ,We didn't get to vote for .
This country needs a fresh start a CTRL ALT DELETE I hope Reform does well, and kicks the arses of the main parties . because they need to feel the pain ,and know what a mess they have made of Our GREAT COUNTRY .their high towers they live in ,need to be knocked to the ground. We need a strong leader who is not afraid to tell it as it is ,
Who will face up to the issues we have and deal with them head on . we do need someone like "dare I say it" like Trump , someone with balls ,and not the cowering wimps we have now .
Farage isn't perfect ,but id have him any day over the muppets we currently have .
If they get in and prove to be no better then we’ve not lost anything by trying to vote for something different.
What if, what if? IF they do get in and win they surely cannot be any worse than Labour, because THAT is not good. If you don't try you never find d out do you?
Can't be any worse than the other losers. So vote Reform!!
Nigel will give it a good go...let us give him a chance.....it's all down to the people vote .....we are in so much s**** all over the UK .we can't do any worse as it is....small acorns grow oak trees.
Determined to stick with reform I am confident reform will make the changes needed for our very survival
We are dammed if we do, and we are dammed if we don't. The alternative may be no good, but it won't be any better as it is.
If we don't give Reform a chance we will never know
Let's not speculate. Let's get our Members in first! Let's see what they can do. I'm sure Nigel & Richard will have a plan. They've got some good ideas already. Get out and vote Reform!
They can’t be any worse than the last two administrations mess we had to put up with.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
If Reform fail then we certainly don't go back. Still, let's focus on the job in hand at the moment and vote Reform for change.
It up to us to make sure he doesn’t fail
There are too many vested interests in politics, will any elected party be allowed to make the changes that are so obviously needed
I'm praying Reform stand straight and true when the WEF and the others put pressure on them.
It’s better to have tried and lost than never trying at all. Think positive I’m voting reform
We have to use the system to change the system.. Put your doubts aside and vote Reform.
One thing at a time. Let's just get Reform in and see where it goes. It cant be worse than Tories surely.
My wife rang up and got her and my daughter a postal vote. Have that snack bar thats three votes from my house for Reform.
Gutted we have no candidate 😢😢 ill write 'none of the above ' as requested 👌
@trayreipond5935 Do you have an independent or even the green party anyone but Labour / Tories
The snowball has started rolling, its just a matter of time.
The people are waking up..Nothing can stop this.
Yes, the snowball may have melted by 4 July and Reform UK will be standing in slush
To change the voting system in this Country we must vote for the Reform UK Party.
The more the better!
I've said for a while now; I think we're going to see a massive swing to Reform. People need change urgently; and I believe that, with Nigel Farage at its head, Reform really can do the job of putting our country back to normal. They'll have my vote!
Vote REFORM
If Reform get in (I hope they do), they will get no end of shit and lack of co-operation from the Civil Service, as has happened with the hapless Tories.
Don’t starting doubting yourself at this stage , great decisions were made in the blink of an eye , reform is one of those , no gimmicks, no bs , hard facts
Just listened to Douglas murray on sky news Australia - worryingly he didn’t mention reform ONCE in the whole show about the turmoil in uk politics. Hmmm
yeah I noticed that as well
we have a reform candidate in bexhill on sea sussex horay for that
If they prove to be the same..... WEVE LOST NOTHING. They deserve to prove us wrong. VOTE REFORM 😊
Maybe people will then realise we are not going to vote ourselves out of this mess ?
We need someone like Nigel with some backbone to sort out these lacklustre Lab & Con useless leaders and ministers.
Of course they will 'Fail' the hope is they will rattle the Establishment to the core with the support they do get and things change. If they don't change then the next wave will be even stronger.
Electoral reform is the key , then when you vote it will really count. Bring in some type of PR system for casting your vote, let's have fair play.
We really have to vote this time!!!!
LET'S MAKE SURE REFORM DON'T FAIL TO GET SEATS VOTE REFORM UK FFS
I think many people are not interested in politics, they will go out on the 4th of July and do what they’ve always done .. Vote for the party that their mum and dad always voted for.
As a swede, I just wish we had someone like Farage to vote for, even if it's difficult to know how things will end up. The so called election we had here in Sweden for EU reps was rigged up to its teeth or whatever one would call it.😊
You, in Sweden, are better off than we are in the UK as you at least have the Sweden Democrats in the Riksdag. We have nothing like that, nor are we likely to have. Anyway best wishes to Sweden from England.
Sweden has a much better system for dealing with clinical negligence claims (the UK system needs reforming and none of the parties are proposing a reformed system should be implemented which in itself would save £millions in legal fees).
For God's sake Andy give us some hope. Why so despondent? Reform is a start stop putting doubts in people's minds before Reform has started!!!!!!
Agree
Just vote Reform and see what happens, and hope for the best that’s all we can do. We know that a vote for the main parties is a wasted vote.
you think in 4 or 5 years time it will be better with labour, take a good look at london and all your labour run met cities
The msm will be doing everything possible to demoralise reform voters if they don't win many seats, however this is a long term plan, it's about building a base and reducing the vote share of large parties who aren't listening to voters and sharing those votes with parties who do care.
Exactly that . 5 years ? We dont have 5 months with Liebour .
I live in a Labour stronghold and have never voted Labour and never will because I take one look at this cesspit and the wasteful spending and general incompetency and ask "why would I want this on a national level?"
Look at Wales ,what a disaster Labour are giving Asylum seekers more money than us pensioners ,our Health service is abysmal all to do with Labour.Reform all the way 👍
If labour get in you may as well pack your job in as labour will take it all off you in tax. It's what they do, it's in their DNA. The tories are just as bad.
I can't understand why anyone remotely sensible wouldn't give reform a go. How can they be any worse ?
I do not consent
If any of those dire predictions come true I fear there will be widespread, possibly violent, protests. I hope that the unniparty will get a massive shock when voters choose Reform in massive numbers. If Reform gets any degree of power it only gives them a chance to show the country they deliver on their promises. Anything less and I fear the consequences.
Brexit voters...VOTE REFORM!👍🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧👍
Brexit will be reversed!
If Reform fail, I’m emigrating!
Think we’ve got to give Reform all our support …it sends a message and hopefully a change . I do not consent is a vote lost
What happen if labour gets in ? Vote reform
Uk🇬🇧🏴
They can't be any worse than the current choices Andy
Spot on, Andy!!
When governments find pride and all the other nonsense more important than governing what we want then it’s broken and can’t be fixed. We can only look into the past and find what the people done. And it’s not good for them governing.
NO! Do we really want government formed 'Behind Closed Doors?'
Reform UK must break the two party duopoly.. after that they either survive, thrive and reform things that need reforming, or we'll need a more robust party to do the proper job. Of course if civil society completely breaks down then we're back in Crusades territory again to restore the UK to sanity.
MY PREDICTION: Reform will get a HUGE share of the national vote (maybe 20%).
But only a TINY number of seats (one or two or none at all).
Labour will win perhaps 500 seats with only 30% of the vote.
Is our first-past-the-post electoral system unfit for purpose or what?
this wont happen if people are sensible enough not to vote labour or conservative
If your candidate gets more votes than it's competitors then you win the seat. Get out there and vote.
So basically an elected government nobody wants .
@CarlEveriss This. Too many say "I don't vote" and yet under FPTP, not voting is effectively voting for the Uniparty because you didn't vote against them.
@@CarlEveriss True, but Reform voters might be spread evenly across most of the nation.
If Reform came a close second in every seat, they'd still get zero seats.
We need to more positive regarding reform, or we are doomed
Liebour will of course get in, but I cannot bring myself to vote for the Liberal Conservative Democrat Party. Reform is not the answer this country needs, but it's the best that we've got at the moment. I feel that I have no choice but to vote for Reform.
I’m putting a bet on that Reform actually win the election.🤞🏻
Ditto🎉
Some bookies are giving odds of 100/1 for Reform to win election!!!! Labour 1/50,Tories 33/1
I doubt that'll happen this time, but maybe it will in future
Come on Andy, give Reform a Chance at least!
What other choice have we got? Reform is the only one tackling immigration. They’ve got to focus on that - maybe their stance on net zero might put a few others off?
This is a long-term project as we should be aiming for 4 years to challenge and, in that time, build a movement to stand against labour as the tories are finished.
What we should hope is that labour dont get a big enough majority to have a monopoly in parliament.if this fails then we should all hang our heads in shame as we have the numbers and a huge majority that want this country back to what it used to be years ago 🏴🏴🏴🇬🇧
This is a reply to another channel talking about voting. Andy is right. The people that will make the difference are the one who VOTE " I DO NOT CONSENT " There are now Tshirts - which I do not make a £ from. Zero. Its not about money its about our children's future freedom. Don't stay at home VOTE - I DO NOT CONSENT
This is a constructive conversation. There are some points that need clarification. Mark mentioned the rules for counting ballots, but it's crucial to remember that constitutional law takes precedence over these rules.
The case of Ashby vs White in 1703 covered three key issues:
1. The separation of powers (you cannot be a Judge in your own cause)
2. The use of the Monarchy's prerogative for the benefit of the people
3. Election and ballot rights.
In essence, Mark is mostly correct-98%-but the 2% detail is significant in law. Think of it like a jury's verdict: "Not Guilty" versus "Guilty"-a small linguistic difference with enormous legal implications. "None of the Above" is considered a spoiled ballot, but "I DO NOT CONSENT" aligns precisely with the full judgment in Ashby vs White.
The House of Lords, in a 10-2 majority, ruled in our favour, and the Monarch prorogued Parliament in our favour. The phrase "Governed by consent" was thus established in law, not merely as a convention. Judges have stated that every vote must be counted, as seen in Hansard questions on spoiled ballots from 1966.
What many don't know is that we have a King's Bench Election Court after each election. This special court, similar to the fire courts of 1666, is dedicated solely to election issues. These courts have specific opening and closing times. Why is this important? The judges in these courts are highly trained in common law and elections, and they are well-versed in Ashby vs White. Ignoring this case would mean perjuring their oath of office.
The phrase "I DO NOT CONSENT" effectively withdraws consent, as per Ashby vs White, whereas not voting is simply abstention-a tacit agreement with whoever wins. If "I DO NOT CONSENT" forms the majority, it withdraws consent to be taxed and to be governed by Parliament, causing a constitutional crisis.
While "None of the Above" is an option, it does not fully align with the constitutional law set by Ashby vs White. "I DO NOT CONSENT" halts everything. At that point, a paralegal constitutional law expert would be needed (and I know one who is available). A little knowledge can be dangerous, so don't get it wrong. Writing "I DO NOT CONSENT" can cause a constitutional crisis. In the recent London elections, we had 11,500 "I DO NOT CONSENT" votes. The word is spreading, but it's essential to steer people towards the actual constitutional law, not just what sounds good.
Well done, Mark. Well done, Essex Angel.
For those interested, the full judgment and comments are available in a 200-page PDF from the archives. We are institutional members of the Selden Society, with the King as patron and the Lady Chief Justice as vice president. This society keeps historical records of our ancient laws and customs, including case law. I have studied constitutional law for 30 years and know that the Constitution is the solution!
You MUST vote, people died for you to have a vote! Peterloo
What we need is a public party. People who are the common working people of this country who have struggled, lived day to day, payed bills, shopping for groceries and not university educated, upper class living, had everything payed for them, live away from society and think they know everything that the general public want. The new party should be called "THE BRITISH PUBLIC PARTY" and its leader should be Tommy Robinson with all the people here on RUclips who report about the anti-british establishment to us.
I think reform will do really well
"I do not consent" will only ever be recorded as a spoiled vote. There is no recording of whether a spoiled vote is an error or intentional.
Reform are the only viable party who can make a change for the better we have had enough of the other two parties we have to have hope for a brighter future for our grandchildren we need change