People: "You can fit 1.3 million Earths inside the Sun." Nick: "Spheres make gaps." Galactus: "No one said that we weren't going to liquify the Earths first."
@@sapphoenixthefirebird5063 What about Pluto? Now I’m actually kinda curious what it’s volume ratio to earth would be. Can you add it to your list here please?
Brilliant work , I love people who explore , test , fail again check again , verify , understand ..too good . Never ever could have thought much into this until this video came up ...
The Universe is large. You may thing the sun is large but it comparision to the Universe it is peanuts. Accoring to my quick match calculation, (ignoring gravitation) one could fit about 1.8*10^59 suns inside observable Universe.
In 1990 my earth science teacher always said that "almost a million" Earths would fit inside the area of the sun. I am glad to see that he was always right about that...
I was like "I'm sure I've seen that spheres-in-a-cube derivation before. Oh, it was me!" My memory is terrible. This is the perfect hook for talking about sphere packing. Great video
It's actually a remarkably simple calculation. By considering oblateness, you could fit a max of about 2100 extra Earths, which is inside the experimental margin of error
That whole scene of you pouring the earths into the sun is such a powerful example of the monstrous size of the Universe. To think that the entirety of our civilization is on one of those little blue beads and you’re just pouring thousands of them per minute with some even scattered around the table making a mess. Really makes you feel something.
I was looking at the spilled beads on the table, and thought to myself "hey, carefull with those, each one of those could be our planet" lol... Yeah, we're super small and super irrelevant.
@@MrExcessum why does the size means anything in terms of relevance? The diversity of living forms on our planet, their complexity and especially the complexity of human brains and thoughts, our society and civilization pretty much dims the kind-of-boring balls of thermonuclear reactions and a vast spaces of mostly nothingness. Stars and other solar bodies are huge and impressive in their scales relative to us but literally your fingertip has more things going on inside it in a couple of minutes, than a star has during it's whole lifespan.
@@Forthro "The only meaning in life there is, is the one we put there ourselves". I never said I didnt like what we have on our planet. I just stated the obvious.
@@MrExcessum and neither was I talking about liking or disliking our planet. It's just the fact that there is even no concept of relevance without anyone to process it, pretty much as you said it. And that overall, the mere size has very little meaning in these terms. Despite our tiny physical size, with our complexity we are capable of understanding and precieveing all these huge celestial phenomena, which are actually quite simple comapred with what we have on our planet.
My dad mentioned this when I was a kid.. he said that "the sun's volume was equal to more than a million earths but that they could never all fit inside due to their packing density" his chemistry teacher told him that in high school back in the 60s👍 MATH!
I always figured scientists were trying to prove that the volume itself could equates and the whole thing about "fitting inside" was a just a poor choice of words to express that to people who otherwise wouldn't immediately understand. That's what I always assumed
@@nietur Thanks for the correction, I'll make the edit. I don't use these terms often anymore so I forget what means what these days. Hopefully you got my actual point though
Oddly, the sun only has a mass ~333,000 times that of the earth. You'd think with the gravitational crushing force of a sun, you'd get more density, but apparently not!
The sun is made up mostly of hydrogen and helium. In a similar way the gas giants are huge but less dense than earth. Jupiter is about as dense as syrup is on earth.
Subscribed because of this video. I love the way the answers were verified; you didn't go looking for possible error first and figure you got it right when you couldn't think of any more sources of error, you did independent checking to look for errors you didn't think of, then searched for explanations. Just a beautiful example.
Wait if u put 1.3 million suns in one place it will be so massive that it not only collapses it forms a black hole the size of 3 suns will have a mass of well 1.3 million suns. This black hole will be so massive it eats everything in the solar system and there's actually a star that actually CAN do this a quasi star
To be fair, the American accent changed too. All accents change over time. It's just that the (stereotypical) British accent changed _a lot_ more than accents usually change.
@@ScienceAsylum I once heared about it and I find it really fascinating, even more if we consider that America was immigrated by many non-English people from which one could expect that they should have shifted the American English accent more.
Heads up big comment Both have changed significantly but to say American English sounds more like how old English would have sounded isn't accurate at all. American English is rhotic whereas British English is non rhotic for the most part depending on region. Whilst yes old English was rhotic a more accurate representation of old English is what is spoken in the black country (look it up). The primary influence of American English would be Irish, Dutch & French not to mention the countless other nations and languages who would have had a hand in developing the accent. Irish gaelic is a phonetical/rhotic language much like Welsh, Alba gaelic (Scotland) and French a rhotic pronunciation would have been used as it would have been the natural progression in to English from their native tongue. So no old English sounded nothing like American English nor British English if not for the influence of other languages keeping rhotic pronunciation the progression would have been more similar just like the differing in accents between the North of England and the South. Sheesh that was long
The problem is that you are placing spheres into spheres and that’s the missed part, 1.3 million earths can only fit if some of them are sliced into minces that fill the blank spaces
I have always heard it stated as, “the sun has over a million times the volume of the earth”, which is accurate, even if many people would erroneously visualize this as a million spheres inside of a larger sphere.
TANGENT: The brass square used to keep the bottom layer of cannon balls on a ship is sometimes referred to as a brass monkey. When it gets really cold and the brass square contracts and becomes too small to hold the cannon balls any longer (because brass and iron shrink at different rates) is where we get the phrase, "Cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey."
Even ignoring the fact that these 1.3 million Earths would compact into a dwarf star... they still wouldn't stack like that because Earth isn't a spherical solid, it's an irregular liquid suspension arranged into the shape of an ovoid via gravitational and centripetal acceleration. If you put a bunch of them together like that, they would squish down into the shape of the container.
@@sermuxify5415 basically earth isn’t actually a perfect sphere bc of mountains and valleys and being mostly water, so if you literally put a bunch of earths in the sun somehow it wouldn’t pack exactly like this video says either
Liked the video! And honestly, as an engineer, I am so glad you left in the parts about questioning your results and verifying if they even make sense. A great lesson for anyone doing applied mathematics for science, physics, engineering, etc. Also, personally, I think the physical model would make a great desk or office ornament. Hope you keep it! Keep up the good work!
"You can't see the forest for the trees." If you get up high enough you can see the forest. The higher you get the more you see. Can you see what I'm saying?
I always assumed it was a pseudonym. Incidentally, last spring my Honors Physics class did a Google meet with him and it didn't occur to me that we should have asked him that until afterward...
With all those beads you should do some stuff on grain boundaries between atoms! In your sphere I can see various 'grain boundaries' that formed which is neat!
At the start I was like "why do you even bother, you can simuluate it by algorithm and you could find some one to write the code for you" and than I saw him writing the code by himself and I was like "This dude is full package!".
He is a hero, getting people interested in science, experimente, theory and their education. He is so engaging, creative and inspiring. Sadly that is something that so many schools and teacher fail to do, which can really impact someone's future negatively. If only all teachers like were Nick Lucid, I really think humanity would've progressed so much faster and we would be technologically superior and wouldve probably terraformed mars and been living in cloud cities on venus.
@@Lucky10279 Mostly. It was stressful too, but only because it took longer to make than I wanted and I was doing things I had never done before. I'm glad it's doing well and I'm glad the project is done.
@@IDMYM8 Haha you're soooooo funny You must be one of those people who think making fun of people in the internet make you worth something, huh? Have a good life, boo 😘
You're imagining the earth is left intact for this. Was I the only one messed up enough to assume we'd be hammering the 1.3m earths into putty to fit them?
I sorta figured gravity would do most of that work. This almost seems like a way to ignore the forces of nature. The larger scale the example the more mass you can fit inside due to gravitational forces. If you ignore gravity then this would be correct.
I will say I haven’t had this much fun watching a science video in years!! You definitely earned a sub from me! Also you sound very similar to a Pokémon RUclipsr that is also really funny and entertaining so that is a plus in my opinion! Now I can get both science and Pokémon content that I will enjoy! 😊😊😊
Gotta appreciate when a RUclips physicist wears another RUclips physicist's merch (physics girl shirt) without mention, just pure support. Happy physics-ing
(I'm not talking to you oscar) Hans-Joachim, don't be pathetic, and such a coward. you say something and then delete it and run away? why don't you get back here so I can smack you up-side the head. physics girl is a youtuber who makes good science videos, all it takes to prove that, is literally looking up her channel and checking peoples reviews of it. I have no idea what you are talking about oil, but that has nothing to do with her videos anyway.
So in a spherical nutshell: - 1.3 million squishable Earths, like air bubbles packing in a hexagon pattern of edges, can fit in the Sun. - ~900k+ jaw-breaker Earths can painfully fit in the sun.
Well the second scenario would never occur. If we could conduct this experiment in with the actual sizes, the Earth's would just squish together. Bc gravity is a thing
"You can get really close to 74% if your balls are really small" Why did THAT, of all things, send me into a fit of giggles? Also, looks like this is comment #3,333
I have learned more from this channel than I have in several year's worths of schooling. I can’t believe this is free content. Thank you so much. world's best channel
YES! This channel definately deserves that comment. I've seen that comment on a bunch of other channels that are dumb and not educational, but this channel is actually so educational and teaches things that I didnt even do in a university level physics class! Such an amazing channel. I'm suprised hes self funded and employed, and not part of that PBS educational team. Still it's good to practice the calculations in homework, but this channel is great since many times he shows the equations for people who are interested, but he doesnt force everyone to go in depth to the calculations to understand the content.
Please more videos related to scalls of planets, stars, etc ....this video was very satisfying for me and answered a question laying on my mind...thank you
Pedant clone increases my enjoyment of Nick's videos immensely. I have a pedant clone running in my head non-stop. Example- this video, just as MY pedant clone was saying "Wait, that doesn't make sense because the Earths wouldn't maintain their shape..." Nick's Pedant clone says it for me. That way, Nick can shut both of them up and I can enjoy the video without a nagging voice in my brain!
@@pouncingfoxes haha same. And even if the clone makes points that I wouldn't have made, I just know that half the comments section would've been "well, actually..." So it's a great way to pre-empt an overzealous comments section without going into the nitty gritty of everything right from the start.
For future reference, when drilling thin plastic like that, put a square piece of masking tape over the spot where you will be drilling, it should help prevent it from cracking
I don't think is very physical, it's rather mathematical, for physics you would need to account for the gravitational forces that would probably make the 1.3 M Earths fit into the Sun
@The Science Asylum Great episode. A request (for you or someone who can run the code) Can you make a graph of max density as big/small sphere ratio increases? I'm guessing it will be a log curve asymptotic to the ideal 74%
I do appreciate you showing the process of how you code, but for a beginner a mention of packages and/or a resource of how to learn do it yourself somewhere would be very helpful. When you go out looking to learn python there will be all sorts of things you can learn what part of python makes you able to do this kind of stuff should be communicated if you can.
Another way to look at it. When you try to fit earths in the sun they melt before packing in. So they aren't spheres any more but liquid or plasma whatever you say and hence have a close to 100% packing density.😁😁
I watched a video on how the modern aluminum beverage can came to be. The cylindrical shape is a compromise between a sphere (which is strongest since it has no corners providing weak points) and a rectangle/square (which has the best packability in boxes and on shelves). It was fascinating. There are some genius innovations designed into a simple soda/beer can.
tbf if you say "but what if you liquefy the earth and fit it into the sun", you might aswell say "What if you vapourise the earth and fit it in the sun" .. you could fit an earth with a density of 12 atoms per cm cubed inside the sun or something like that.
This honestly made me appreciate the scale between the Earth and the Sun so much more watching how long it took for you to get all those specs in that little sphere container
0:25 Technically, the Earth only holds up as a sphere because of its gravity. As soon as you put another one next to it, it'll just merge into one bigger planet (in a few hundred million years). Do that 1.3 million times and the equation is accurate 🤷♂️. Here's another, more accurate experiment to do. It'd be like adding 1.3 million water droplets into a spherical container. The droplets hold themselves together in spheres because of their surface tension though, not gravity 🤷♂️.
This may be true if you keep the earth spherical, but if you grind the earths up into fine powder, you should be able to fit them :) After all, that number says they have to be "whole" or "complete" or "intact" earths....
Earth isn't a sphere. NO, it's not flat either. Earth is very lumpy and odd shaped with a highly squishy (malleable) material filling in the voids to make it appear as a perfect spear to appease the gods.
Was the estimate difference in the size/weight of the beads, or the number of beads? If the size was off, it would be by a factor 1.2159 [cube root of 714287/397375 and of 0.00188235/0.0010472 match this value to the precision shown], it could be less if the density was also off. You could also have filled the sphere with water to measure the volume of the free space.
I appreciate your effort in unraveling this perplexing puzzle. Initially, I found it difficult to comprehend the magnitude of 1.3 million Earths, in relation to the number of scale images illustrating the comparative sizes of the sun and the earth. These images seemed off. Nonetheless, I must commend you on the exceptional quality of the video you provided. It skillfully presented a genuine visual comparison, enabling me to grasp the enormity of the situation more effectively. The revised estimation is still an astonishing figure.
This is the highest level "um actually" I've ever seen.
Not saying this isn't good, but you should watch YMS's "Kimba the White Lion" that "um, actually"s the claim that Lion King ripped off Kimba.
@@muffy6519 the only good thing from yms the rest is smugness
Nerd clone would be proud
Ummm...actually it's more like 1.3million " actually's"
Eh. The "um actually" thing is annoying, this is more like a fun thought experiment that won't annoy anyone.
People: "You can fit 1.3 million Earths inside the Sun."
Nick: "Spheres make gaps."
Galactus: "No one said that we weren't going to liquify the Earths first."
Doesn't Galactus eat planets?
What does he mean with liquify 😳
@@CorelUser diarrhea time
@@youwantmyname9208 Finally. Someone who understands me.
@@mikebaker2436 haha if you two want to grab pizza some time y'all sound pretty funny to talk to
Plasmify
"What am I supposed to do with all these extra beads?"
Answer is obvious.
Make a solar system model, showing how many Earths fit in each planet.
@MovieClips 🤔
How many fits in Uranus*
@@alfonsomacias1569 1:06
Naively calculating volumes,
Jupiter: 1320
Saturn: 760
Uranus: 63
Neptune: 56
Earth: 1
Venus: 0.86
Mars: 0.15
Mercury: 0.056
@@sapphoenixthefirebird5063
What about Pluto? Now I’m actually kinda curious what it’s volume ratio to earth would be. Can you add it to your list here please?
Brilliant work , I love people who explore , test , fail again check again , verify , understand ..too good . Never ever could have thought much into this until this video came up ...
conclusion: sun is still an absolute unit
In the battle field
about or close to 1.3 million times
The sun is 2018 ninja earth is 2021 ninja lol
The Universe is large. You may thing the sun is large but it comparision to the Universe it is peanuts. Accoring to my quick match calculation, (ignoring gravitation) one could fit about 1.8*10^59 suns inside observable Universe.
@ compared to the earth and it’s solar system, yes it is a absolute unit.
In 1990 my earth science teacher always said that "almost a million" Earths would fit inside the area of the sun. I am glad to see that he was always right about that...
He seems like the type of person to actually go and calculate that nitbit.
@@melgibsonero Did you both know him??
@@DarthVader-ch4um all of us know him
pog
He's cool
I was like "I'm sure I've seen that spheres-in-a-cube derivation before. Oh, it was me!" My memory is terrible.
This is the perfect hook for talking about sphere packing. Great video
LOL how pleasant to see you here, Steve!
Wating for many more Mould effects .
Yo!!
I watched this whole thing thinking, "ha, I already know all of this because Matt Parker explained this at Steve Mould's house."
Use your tiny metal balls from your other videos.
And then he thinks to himself… wait, the earth isn’t actually a perfect sphere…
👇 Flat Heads
Correct, it's an oblate spheroid due to rotational stretching.... and so is the sun actually. Complication level: extreme.
It's actually a remarkably simple calculation. By considering oblateness, you could fit a max of about 2100 extra Earths, which is inside the experimental margin of error
That whole scene of you pouring the earths into the sun is such a powerful example of the monstrous size of the Universe. To think that the entirety of our civilization is on one of those little blue beads and you’re just pouring thousands of them per minute with some even scattered around the table making a mess. Really makes you feel something.
I was looking at the spilled beads on the table, and thought to myself "hey, carefull with those, each one of those could be our planet" lol... Yeah, we're super small and super irrelevant.
@@MrExcessum why does the size means anything in terms of relevance? The diversity of living forms on our planet, their complexity and especially the complexity of human brains and thoughts, our society and civilization pretty much dims the kind-of-boring balls of thermonuclear reactions and a vast spaces of mostly nothingness. Stars and other solar bodies are huge and impressive in their scales relative to us but literally your fingertip has more things going on inside it in a couple of minutes, than a star has during it's whole lifespan.
@@Forthro "The only meaning in life there is, is the one we put there ourselves".
I never said I didnt like what we have on our planet. I just stated the obvious.
@@MrExcessum and neither was I talking about liking or disliking our planet. It's just the fact that there is even no concept of relevance without anyone to process it, pretty much as you said it. And that overall, the mere size has very little meaning in these terms. Despite our tiny physical size, with our complexity we are capable of understanding and precieveing all these huge celestial phenomena, which are actually quite simple comapred with what we have on our planet.
@Mike Wazozki same bro 🤣🤣🤣
My dad mentioned this when I was a kid.. he said that "the sun's volume was equal to more than a million earths but that they could never all fit inside due to their packing density" his chemistry teacher told him that in high school back in the 60s👍 MATH!
I was thinking the same thing. It's like sand. Even when it's packed, water can still get absorbed because of the gaps as small as they may be.
I always figured scientists were trying to prove that the volume itself could equates and the whole thing about "fitting inside" was a just a poor choice of words to express that to people who otherwise wouldn't immediately understand.
That's what I always assumed
@@Kurayamiblack but it's about volume, not mass
@@nietur Thanks for the correction, I'll make the edit. I don't use these terms often anymore so I forget what means what these days.
Hopefully you got my actual point though
@@Kurayamiblack now it's clear
"The best way of stacking balls depends on the shape of the base."
There's a joke to be made here.
Oh it's no joke, I assure you.
It's *very serious* business.
Very serious
Very very serious
Too serious
Much too serious
Oddly, the sun only has a mass ~333,000 times that of the earth. You'd think with the gravitational crushing force of a sun, you'd get more density, but apparently not!
Good observation! 👍
Lighter elements, but mainly outward pressure from fusion energy. The sun will actually get larger as it ages into an even lower massed red giant.
The energy it creates with fusion makes it "inflate" and balance the gravity. It would be a lot smaller without all the inner pressure
Supermassive black holes have densities comparable to air
The sun is made up mostly of hydrogen and helium. In a similar way the gas giants are huge but less dense than earth. Jupiter is about as dense as syrup is on earth.
As part of the order, we say to ourselves: "Hexagons are the bestagons!"
The hexagon is the bestagon
Hexagons
Are
Hexagon is the bestagon
Bestagons
i was literally studying sphere packing for chemistry and this came out in right time. Thanks
Me too brother.
What a coincidence!😅
Class 12th solid state
Solid state
Okay then - so how many Helium atoms will fit inside of a Buckyball???
Me too lol solid state
This feels like this could've been an awesome science fair project for highschool me
Expensive science fair project.
A 4,500$ Project
@@ScienceAsylum Yeah
@@arctic215 i'll pay for it
@@judicatorhurayth1927 wtf
Subscribed because of this video. I love the way the answers were verified; you didn't go looking for possible error first and figure you got it right when you couldn't think of any more sources of error, you did independent checking to look for errors you didn't think of, then searched for explanations. Just a beautiful example.
Subscribed because of this video and your comment together
Same bro
New life goal. Become so rich that i have a personal mathematician.
my life goal is to beat Space invaders in osu
That’s called a WolframAlpha Pro subscription.
@@manatster My life goal is to snipe mrekk and whitecat
@@manatster and why the fuck there's so many disgusting osu players XD
Or buy an accurate scale model.
"Have you ever thought this deeply about a simple question before?"
I always pondered what would happen if you put a werewolf on the moon.
That was clever
Wouldn't it just die?
@@gorisenke lol ha
it would turn into a wolfwere
They turn into a werewolf when the earth is full
Can you prove you can’t fit 1,300,000 suns in the earth next?
🤔
Takes one, smashes earth. Video is 4 seconds long
Wait if u put 1.3 million suns in one place it will be so massive that it not only collapses it forms a black hole the size of 3 suns will have a mass of well 1.3 million suns. This black hole will be so massive it eats everything in the solar system and there's actually a star that actually CAN do this a quasi star
So U can't fit 1,3 million sun in earth
@@oai8028 it was a joke
You can show that plastic Sun filled with Earths at a school, and amaze the kids with how relatively tiny we are.
Or just show a short clip from this video. You can reach many more students that way.
You know, on the American accent part. That's a good point, I've never considered that maybe the English accent changed in England not in American
To be fair, the American accent changed too. All accents change over time. It's just that the (stereotypical) British accent changed _a lot_ more than accents usually change.
@@ScienceAsylum
I once heared about it and I find it really fascinating, even more if we consider that America was immigrated by many non-English people from which one could expect that they should have shifted the American English accent more.
Heads up big comment
Both have changed significantly but to say American English sounds more like how old English would have sounded isn't accurate at all.
American English is rhotic whereas British English is non rhotic for the most part depending on region. Whilst yes old English was rhotic a more accurate representation of old English is what is spoken in the black country (look it up).
The primary influence of American English would be Irish, Dutch & French not to mention the countless other nations and languages who would have had a hand in developing the accent.
Irish gaelic is a phonetical/rhotic language much like Welsh, Alba gaelic (Scotland) and French a rhotic pronunciation would have been used as it would have been the natural progression in to English from their native tongue.
So no old English sounded nothing like American English nor British English if not for the influence of other languages keeping rhotic pronunciation the progression would have been more similar just like the differing in accents between the North of England and the South.
Sheesh that was long
@@CemlynGriffiths great info but sadly irrelevant due to your opening line, because no one said anything about Old or even Middle English
@@wittwashere when speaking of "old english" I'm merely talking about the era of that he states in the video mid 1500s
I love how he is trying not to argue semantics with his "nerd" character, while arguing semantics with the original claim... ironic.
Oh, you thought this was hard? Just remember, the earth isn’t a perfect sphere: it is slightly squished! Have fun 🙃
Not only is it squished, but the southern hemisphere is slightly larger, making it also that little bit asymmetrical just for a little extra pain
@@thebreadster1500 it ok earth is still poggers
and wouldn't it all compress under the insane weight?
@@thebreadster1500 oh damn I didn’t know that
Isn't it flat though? 🤔
The problem is that you are placing spheres into spheres and that’s the missed part, 1.3 million earths can only fit if some of them are sliced into minces that fill the blank spaces
That’s what I was thinking
@@PedroAmA Me too.
uehrm achstualy
"Hexagon (is the bestagon"
cgp gray: Y E S
Exactly what I was thinking
Have a great day :D
@@w0omer you too Mr Happy!
YES
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5:09
Nick: If you take the pattern and slice it into unit cubes, you get--
Me: The weighted companion cube!
Same thoughts
SHHHHHH, he doesn't know the cake is a lie yet!
No, it's the atomic packing factor.
More like a geometry dash cube
I like the idea of Aperture making a cube by first making 4 spheres and cutting them up. Seems like the perfect waste of resources they're iconic for
I have always heard it stated as, “the sun has over a million times the volume of the earth”, which is accurate, even if many people would erroneously visualize this as a million spheres inside of a larger sphere.
Yes, that statement would be more accurate.
I only heard the masses compared, never the volume
No on said the earths would be intact. He needs to take a coffee grinder to his beads.
The human brain can’t imagine something that large
@@dominikmilien same. The volume talk is new to me, and feels out of place.
TANGENT: The brass square used to keep the bottom layer of cannon balls on a ship is sometimes referred to as a brass monkey. When it gets really cold and the brass square contracts and becomes too small to hold the cannon balls any longer (because brass and iron shrink at different rates) is where we get the phrase, "Cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey."
Came here to say this.
This is actually an urban legend, but still a fun story.
3:25 "Hexagon is the bestagon" I literally watched Grey's video on that yesterday
Chuck Norris: Octagon!
@@kellyjackson7889 Jack Black : "Hexagon"
Guess he has join the cult as well
3:28 “hexagon is the bestagon”
Ah I see you’re a man of culture.
Even ignoring the fact that these 1.3 million Earths would compact into a dwarf star... they still wouldn't stack like that because Earth isn't a spherical solid, it's an irregular liquid suspension arranged into the shape of an ovoid via gravitational and centripetal acceleration. If you put a bunch of them together like that, they would squish down into the shape of the container.
what
@@sermuxify5415 basically earth isn’t actually a perfect sphere bc of mountains and valleys and being mostly water, so if you literally put a bunch of earths in the sun somehow it wouldn’t pack exactly like this video says either
@Phill Zimmer I never would have even considered that without this comment!
You mean the earth is a geoid
That's what I was thinking. Our core isn't solid, ONLY our CRUST is.
8:44 I had similar experiences as well when emailing industrial manufacturers. 😅 Excellent comedy and science!
Can we just stop and admire how far this man went to fill the Sun with Earths?
I was thinking the same thing. Math, code, detailed model... Nick really went the extra mile. Thanks!
Yea. Someone actually tried! If an arrogant alien species lands now and smirkly asks if we even tried we can say yes! with our chin up
Liked the video!
And honestly, as an engineer, I am so glad you left in the parts about questioning your results and verifying if they even make sense. A great lesson for anyone doing applied mathematics for science, physics, engineering, etc.
Also, personally, I think the physical model would make a great desk or office ornament. Hope you keep it!
Keep up the good work!
For such a crazy guy, it's interesting that Nick's last name is Lucid. He's probably just on a higher plane than all the rest of us...
Lucid dreams are the best!
Aren't all the physicists a little "higher" than us? haha
"You can't see the forest for the trees." If you get up
high enough you can see the forest. The higher you
get the more you see. Can you see what I'm saying?
I'm still skeptical that is his actual name haha
I always assumed it was a pseudonym. Incidentally, last spring my Honors Physics class did a Google meet with him and it didn't occur to me that we should have asked him that until afterward...
With all those beads you should do some stuff on grain boundaries between atoms!
In your sphere I can see various 'grain boundaries' that formed which is neat!
When the theoreticist has to do deal with real world experiments, he really has to break out the bleeper
At the start I was like "why do you even bother, you can simuluate it by algorithm and you could find some one to write the code for you" and than I saw him writing the code by himself and I was like "This dude is full package!".
I did almost the same thing but I just thought "just use math" I'm sure there is some optimization problem out there that's asks this question
Lol this dude is really smart and loves what he does..
I have to admit my favorite part of this video is "filling a volume with spears". I'm laughing so hard now I'm crying.
"I hate it when I don't understand something"
That is a very good summary of my take on life.
seems a better version of mine "I am interested in what I don't understand"
On the bright side: You cant improve, if you never learn something new.
@@KatyaAbc575 one can always improve on alredy acquired skills.
If you don't understand something then you have the privilege of figuring it out.
@@michaelanderson4849 which still requires learning, even if it's subconsciously
I just want to take a minute to appreciate all the effort and time you put to educate us. Amazing contents as always.
Thank you for appreciating the effort. This video was so much work!
He is a hero, getting people interested in science, experimente, theory and their education. He is so engaging, creative and inspiring. Sadly that is something that so many schools and teacher fail to do, which can really impact someone's future negatively. If only all teachers like were Nick Lucid, I really think humanity would've progressed so much faster and we would be technologically superior and wouldve probably terraformed mars and been living in cloud cities on venus.
@@ScienceAsylum Was it fun work?
@@Lucky10279 Mostly. It was stressful too, but only because it took longer to make than I wanted and I was doing things I had never done before. I'm glad it's doing well and I'm glad the project is done.
@@ScienceAsylum What prompted you to do this topic?
"What percentage of women don't like you?"
Me, a professional: 6:58
Good
@@IDMYM8
Haha you're soooooo funny
You must be one of those people who think making fun of people in the internet make you worth something, huh?
Have a good life, boo 😘
@@scarlet_soul4118 How dare YA MOCK ME?!!!!
Lol
Don’t put yourself down, keep high hopes up :D
You're imagining the earth is left intact for this.
Was I the only one messed up enough to assume we'd be hammering the 1.3m earths into putty to fit them?
I sorta figured gravity would do most of that work. This almost seems like a way to ignore the forces of nature. The larger scale the example the more mass you can fit inside due to gravitational forces. If you ignore gravity then this would be correct.
0:40
I LOVE the (is the bestagon) quote at 3:46. That CGPGrey episode was amazing 😂
"The static cling is ridiculous."
Then for a moment he remembered that he knew the equations for that.
When pedantry turns into an actual answer. Not the answer anyone cared about, but an answer all the same
I will say I haven’t had this much fun watching a science video in years!! You definitely earned a sub from me!
Also you sound very similar to a Pokémon RUclipsr that is also really funny and entertaining so that is a plus in my opinion!
Now I can get both science and Pokémon content that I will enjoy! 😊😊😊
Glad you enjoyed it! And thanks for the sub 🤓
Gotta appreciate when a RUclips physicist wears another RUclips physicist's merch (physics girl shirt) without mention, just pure support. Happy physics-ing
physics-ing?
*Nice.*
(I'm not talking to you oscar)
Hans-Joachim, don't be pathetic, and such a coward. you say something and then delete it and run away? why don't you get back here so I can smack you up-side the head. physics girl is a youtuber who makes good science videos, all it takes to prove that, is literally looking up her channel and checking peoples reviews of it. I have no idea what you are talking about oil, but that has nothing to do with her videos anyway.
So in a spherical nutshell:
- 1.3 million squishable Earths, like air bubbles packing in a hexagon pattern of edges, can fit in the Sun.
- ~900k+ jaw-breaker Earths can painfully fit in the sun.
Well the second scenario would never occur. If we could conduct this experiment in with the actual sizes, the Earth's would just squish together. Bc gravity is a thing
And then BOOM from temperature increasing too fast and too little hudrogen
Hydrogen*
@@Subt0nix no I'm just saying if we could actually conduct that experiment. The Earth's would all come together bc gravity
the sun can fite 1.3000,000 eath
"You can get really close to 74% if your balls are really small"
Why did THAT, of all things, send me into a fit of giggles?
Also, looks like this is comment #3,333
If I had a nickle for every time a teacher told me that!
@@readtherealanthonyfaucibyr6444 hol up
@@susten8684 My women's studies teacher was the only one who said it over and over. The rest of my teachers would usually one say it once or twice.
Man puts his balls in balls for 17 minutes straight.
@@Blaketarded hol up
i came here randomly but i rly liked your enthusiastic calculation and experiments. i subscribed!
I saw that CGP Grey reference. Glory to the Hexagon, for it is the Bestagon.
Indeed
indeed
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you know, i just was about to leave a like on this video when you had to go & bring politics into it by mentioning z-up. It's #Y-UpForever!
😂
Fancy seeing you here... =]
Hii biro
👏
Y-up is the only way.
Person: “I just found out I have cancer!”
Nick: “Don’t worry, I wrote some code.”
I was just on that lol
one day nick is gonna figure out how to cure cancer with physics for a video
If (cell=cancerous); don't
I love this, my dad told me about his school project where he did sphere packing stuff, and the program was so cool too
When I read the title I immediately went "Yeah, I need some crazy now".
And I got my dose. Love it. Sanity is overrated.
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I'll never pack hundreds of thousands of Earths inside the Sun, but I'm watching this anyway.
But it's pretty fun, you should try it sometimes ;)
@@laultimarebanada No don't that's where my dog lives
This guy really just went:
"Imma go defy societal knowledge right now".
Bruhh.
1st video of channel i am watching
Already loving it😍😍
I have learned more from this channel than I have in several year's worths of schooling. I can’t believe this is free content. Thank you so much. world's best channel
Same me
YES! This channel definately deserves that comment. I've seen that comment on a bunch of other channels that are dumb and not educational, but this channel is actually so educational and teaches things that I didnt even do in a university level physics class! Such an amazing channel. I'm suprised hes self funded and employed, and not part of that PBS educational team. Still it's good to practice the calculations in homework, but this channel is great since many times he shows the equations for people who are interested, but he doesnt force everyone to go in depth to the calculations to understand the content.
Like seriously this is legit good content
LOL I love how much extra effort you put into the CG balls in spite of the failed long long stacking
Please more videos related to scalls of planets, stars, etc ....this video was very satisfying for me and answered a question laying on my mind...thank you
Slick programming. Nice job with this whole video. Your face after spilling ping balls on the floor got an audible chuckle.
Asking why I can both see through glass and my reflection at the same time took me down a rabbit hole I never expected for sure, haha.
Well shit now im curious about that too. Did you figure it out?
Check out the feynman lectures in new zeland
I actually had a blind guy ask me to explain that to him once. I was utterly stumped!!!
This is a huge video to explain a very basic geometry problem and I absolutely love it!
ROCK AND STONE
Love the conclusion/ recap in the end. Sums it all up and consolidates it
"Have you ever thought this deeply about a simple question before?"
No, because I'M ONLY A LITTLE CRAZY!
Another super video!!! Thanks!
Fred
I like your pfp (profile picture).
I love the pedant clone. Just me?
He clarifies so many nuances up, I'd just watch pedant clone videos they were made. Lol, this is probably just me 😀😀
I got a soft spot for ol' Nerd Clone too.
Pedant clone increases my enjoyment of Nick's videos immensely. I have a pedant clone running in my head non-stop. Example- this video, just as MY pedant clone was saying "Wait, that doesn't make sense because the Earths wouldn't maintain their shape..." Nick's Pedant clone says it for me. That way, Nick can shut both of them up and I can enjoy the video without a nagging voice in my brain!
Nerd Clone needs to cast off the yoke of Nick Lucid and start his own channel. To the NerdVision Studios!
@@pouncingfoxes haha same. And even if the clone makes points that I wouldn't have made, I just know that half the comments section would've been "well, actually..." So it's a great way to pre-empt an overzealous comments section without going into the nitty gritty of everything right from the start.
I like the way that the nerd clone has his glasses fixed with tape. As a fellow nerd, I can totally relate...
This is so much effort! Really enjoyed the entire video.
Thank you for appreciating the effort. It was so much work!
Scientist: "You can fit 1.3 million Earths inside the Sun"
Nick: "And I took that personally".
For future reference, when drilling thin plastic like that, put a square piece of masking tape over the spot where you will be drilling, it should help prevent it from cracking
Cool video. Appreciate your work, thank you so much!
Thanks!
This is the most physicist think I have ever seen, it's almost engineer level. You could have worked this out with math!
I am making a joke for anyone wanting to shut me down
I thought it was funny 👍
@@ScienceAsylum thanks!
As an engineer, I'm laughing my A$$ off. Good call!
I don't think is very physical, it's rather mathematical, for physics you would need to account for the gravitational forces that would probably make the 1.3 M Earths fit into the Sun
3:25 "Hexagon (Is the bestagon)"
CGP Grey: Ah yes, my fellow bretheren.
So I wasn't the only one who got that yay
I love how you use the clones to answer questions before people can ask them.
In the Immortal words of Malcolm Reynolds “I get the how, I just don’t get why”
To brag about it.
Radio Shack and NASA don't have these answers. And that price point. The $:discovery is 😍
haha... balls
I expected a half-assed video by some dude on the internet, but I was mistaken and this is really epic and he accounted for practically everything
If you want to play around with some of the code I used in the video: github.com/ScienceAsylum/Cannonball-Problem
Oh cool, thanks!
@The Science Asylum Great episode. A request (for you or someone who can run the code) Can you make a graph of max density as big/small sphere ratio increases? I'm guessing it will be a log curve asymptotic to the ideal 74%
I do appreciate you showing the process of how you code, but for a beginner a mention of packages and/or a resource of how to learn do it yourself somewhere would be very helpful. When you go out looking to learn python there will be all sorts of things you can learn what part of python makes you able to do this kind of stuff should be communicated if you can.
@@contrarian8870 lim r -> 0, ideal 100% ?
Another way to look at it. When you try to fit earths in the sun they melt before packing in. So they aren't spheres any more but liquid or plasma whatever you say and hence have a close to 100% packing density.😁😁
Wow this video is a million times more interesting than I wouldve expected 🤯🧠 Amazing job as always Nick and all Nick clones.
You mean 932,884 times more interesting? 😂
@@adamroach4538 LOOOOOOL 😂😂😂👏
You can say that for all the videos of the channel. Nick is jaw dropping quality
I watched a video on how the modern aluminum beverage can came to be. The cylindrical shape is a compromise between a sphere (which is strongest since it has no corners providing weak points) and a rectangle/square (which has the best packability in boxes and on shelves). It was fascinating. There are some genius innovations designed into a simple soda/beer can.
Math teacher: you're going to need to know this in real life.
The scenario.
I found your channel about a month ago, and really i don't know why it is not so popular, these videos are perfect!!!
I'm glad you found it 🙂
True
Yo, this channel is a hidden gem
6:10 "we don't get to keep those in real life"
Well I mean... you can't really duplicate Earths in real life either
Fair enough.
tbf if you say "but what if you liquefy the earth and fit it into the sun", you might aswell say "What if you vapourise the earth and fit it in the sun" .. you could fit an earth with a density of 12 atoms per cm cubed inside the sun or something like that.
This honestly made me appreciate the scale between the Earth and the Sun so much more watching how long it took for you to get all those specs in that little sphere container
Have a great day :D
Wow, this video is a whole new level for this channel! Amazing work!
Thanks! 😃
0:25 Technically, the Earth only holds up as a sphere because of its gravity. As soon as you put another one next to it, it'll just merge into one bigger planet (in a few hundred million years). Do that 1.3 million times and the equation is accurate 🤷♂️.
Here's another, more accurate experiment to do. It'd be like adding 1.3 million water droplets into a spherical container. The droplets hold themselves together in spheres because of their surface tension though, not gravity 🤷♂️.
🤷♂️
Cool, so 900,000 earths on day 1 ... we just have to wait a few years for them to demolish to ramp up to 1.3 mill
Did you watch the video he went over that before the two minute mark
Excellent Job, The Science Asylum, Keep It Up!
Spill all the beads in your worst enemy's house. They'll be finding beeds until the sun goes supernova.
@Mr. Virtual thats ma job
This may be true if you keep the earth spherical, but if you grind the earths up into fine powder, you should be able to fit them :)
After all, that number says they have to be "whole" or "complete" or "intact" earths....
Absolutely correct.
I thought I was a misanthrope, but even I have never considered grinding just one Earth into a fine powder, let alone 1.3M Earths.
Earth isn't a sphere. NO, it's not flat either. Earth is very lumpy and odd shaped with a highly squishy (malleable) material filling in the voids to make it appear as a perfect spear to appease the gods.
joke's on you, a fine powder is also just a bunch of spheres!
Or liquify them
"You can get really close to 74% if your balls are really small or the box is really big"...
This is so cool this is the first episode of this channel I’ve seen and I’m hooked
lay off the drugs.
Awwww… alright 🥺
Was the estimate difference in the size/weight of the beads, or the number of beads? If the size was off, it would be by a factor 1.2159 [cube root of 714287/397375 and of 0.00188235/0.0010472 match this value to the precision shown], it could be less if the density was also off.
You could also have filled the sphere with water to measure the volume of the free space.
did I just really watch a man talk about how balls don't fit into something for 17 minutes
😆
3:18 i see i've found another member of the church.
"What am I gonna do with all these beads?"
Sell Science Asylum Earth-filled Suns as merch!
7:21 "Hey crazies" back at ya. The look on the clone's face after he dumps the balls was just perfect.
I appreciate your effort in unraveling this perplexing puzzle. Initially, I found it difficult to comprehend the magnitude of 1.3 million Earths, in relation to the number of scale images illustrating the comparative sizes of the sun and the earth. These images seemed off. Nonetheless, I must commend you on the exceptional quality of the video you provided. It skillfully presented a genuine visual comparison, enabling me to grasp the enormity of the situation more effectively. The revised estimation is still an astonishing figure.