When I got my original Tumnus and plugged it in, I failed to set the knobs to zero. Once I clicked the button, my HRD blew. Awesome pedal and very powerful little thing.
I call BS on that flame job. The screws for the back cover were out, and no way the flames or smoke would be that big from over-voltage. The current limit on the 18v supply would prevent that response. I’ve seen direct shorts on 240vac not make that much flame or smoke. Brian exagerated the response to make a point of not trying this at home. Besides, if 18 volts would cause that, some lawyer would take his business for knowingly continuing to sell the product without preventive modification. It was cool to watch though, a thumbs up to Brian for getting us to hit play. Great pedal, love mine. John
Best video you have ever done! How about a new pedal inspired by this video...the Pyro!? Flash in the Pan!? LOL...I thought maybe a spark followed by a puff of smoke but dang...that is dangerous. Good on you for showing what happens.
Great video brother Brian ! It takes the most iconic , most loved pedal builder to do such an immensely instructional video . Dig it bro ! Great idea . Keeping the dummies in check : )
I'm sure after a little cleaning off the pedal, it will work just fine. I think I'll buy 2 and plug the other one in on the 4th of july. Nice display! Kidding, very good information as always ! Thank you
It’s a wonderful pedal. I run a silver archer into it, preceded by your mini-ego pedal. It’s a tasty mix of harmonics set for a richer sound pallet than one pedal.
That's spectacular,; seen a few smoke a little, and once witnessed a Peavy Classic Tweed burn slowly, - and I think this was due to old tubes combined with a dramatic temp shift, but it was also just old & heavily used,- but, yeah, - that would likely take the house with it.Some seem to get very excited if a pedal is designed to handle higher input, but the truth is, unless you're running into a 50 or 100 watt amp, there's no extra headroom to get,- just more volume, usually at the expense of harmonics and tone.Think the Fulltone Plimsoul taught that lesson,: excellent drive with nicely designed tone stack, and through headphones, you could hear the effect distinctly.Save that for the monster digital delay, / processing modulation monsters out there.Suprised they don't require even more power.
I love it. The fireworks powder really drove the point home. Maybe that'll save y'alls warranty dept some work(and / or denials o claims) keep up the good work, gang gang
Brian, amazing video! I always figured it's best to check the manual! The question I have is about using a noise suppressor pedal where in the signal chain should ideally be?? Thanks for all the dulcet tone!
I would gladly pay $20 for this burned up Tumnus pedal. But only if BW agrees to sign it. In fact, I'd like to suggest a new pedal line: Flamed Mojo by Wampler.
I bought an Electro-Harmonix H.O.G. and Frequency Analyzer pedals at Guitar Center used. There was no power cable for the HOG so the associate used the one for the Analyzer.... not realizing it was a 40 volt pedal. Within 2 or 3 seconds it smelled like something was burning
i just wanted to say i’m a huge fan of the original tumnus. i’ve never had an overdrive pedal sound and feel so natural. i’ve been wanting a tumnus deluxe but sadly my guitar gear funds are in the red. if you ever want to NOT destroy one feel free to hook a man up. maybe i can make a video showing what one does when plugged into 9 volt adapter like they are meant for. :) if not i’ll still love you and someday buy one.
"Fake news!" ... I may be wrong, but my scepticism needle just went off the chart. I'm guessing that the pedal has some extra combustibles added to it. The fire/explosion was too dramatic for the components that a pedal usually has, and the bottom of the pedal being loose, just adds to my suspicion. Also, Brian looks like he is trying his best not to smirk. ;P Still, I doubt many people will trying running it on 18v now, so mission accomplished, I suppose.
It does look like fiberglass insulation confetti when them electrolytic caps pop, and the diodes explode. That 7660s might bust too, I've never shot over voltage thru one, so pure speculation.
@@fishypaw I commented the same above. I see a distinct artillery shell smoke and crackle amidst the smoke. (He emptied some gunpowder and percolate into it fo the dramas of it)
So 18V is no good huh? Ok, but he didn't say anything about running it straight off 230V from the wall. I bet the transparent crunchy tightness will be amazing!
hey man i hope you have time to answer a few questions for me. i have a standard Tumnus which has a sever problem with Pops when i engage it, its not exclusive to the tumnus as all my pedals do this to some extent, however the tumnus seems to literally be microphonic- meaning when i tap the pedal it makes noise, when i gently rub the patch cables coming from it it makes sound, when i touch the power in cable it reacts as if grounding issue or something. im just curious if this is normal or if mine is defective. it was bought second hand, and i run it from a battery power supply i built myself, but for the record it does it no matter how i power it. thanks!
On a more serious note, it`s a good idea to *understand* your pedals before rushing out to try something you saw mentioned on a forum. *Sometimes* what you read CAN actually have some validity. A kid brought his Timmy pedal over to my place because he had read that using a lowly LM1458 dual op-amp sounded "better". I figured that Paul Cochrane knew what he was doing, but it was no skin off my nose, so I unsoldered the existing chip, installed a socket. and we spent the evening trying out about 6 or 8 other dual op-amps. Much to my amazement, we both agreed that the cheap low-spec'd 1458 really DID sound the best of the lot; better than pricier "audiophile quality" chips. But a little knowledge, or rather, a little internet rumor, can be a dangerous thing. So *understand* how your pedals work, FIRST, before trying out something off the beaten path. Because the supply-voltage standard for pedals is 9V, many pedals attempting to work with higher supplies will either provide their own adapters (like EHX does for some of their pedals), or will use a "charge pump" chip to increase the supply voltage internally, or, in the case of the Tumnus, convert +9V into +/-9V (the equivalent of two 9v batteries). SOME pedals will work with much higher supply voltages than 9V. Some of them will show audible benefit. Many won't. And some, like Brian demonstrates, will most decidedly NOT work with anything other than what the chassis and instruction manual indicate, because of their design. UNDERSTAND YOUR PEDALS!
Lol--great video Brian to get the point across to those who “assume” any pedal can run on 18V............even though it looked like you put 480V AC through it🤣 My Crybaby 535Q runs on 18V - with this logic applied--who in their right mind would think that 36V would be ok?!
That was a few levels above just "letting the magic smoke out" On the flipside, you've taken simply torching your guitar as a show-ender into the 21st century.
Brian asked for our thoughts on the video, so here's mine. The only thing I could think of during the entire video was: "Holy crap...Brian got an SLO!!!"
The Klon Centaur circuit has a 12v zener for over voltage protection. Weirdly though, there's no resistor to go with it. (An oversight?, or perhaps the circuit we've all seen online is not accurate.) Brian, why not add an inline resistor to limit the current should the zener start to conduct?
Sounds like we all want a weekly “Let’s get Fried” special where you blow up pedals! Looks like you could make your money back selling the relic’d cases!
Lmao I was just about to say, "wait, doesn't it have a charge pump???" It's super nice of you to do a video on this though. Better explosions than Michael Bay
Pretty certain I've done this a couple of times accidentally and the light came on and it made no sound. But it continues to work just fine. Probably not a great idea still though. That said, I'm in the UK, which possibly changes things a bit (or maybe not, I know literally nothing about electronics)
Speaking of 18 volts. I have several pedals that I like to run at 18 volts. The problem I'm having, is finding a power supply unit that has several 18 volt outputs. I've found a few that you can squeeze 4 out of, but I'm looking for something that will do 10-12 dedicated 18 volt outputs. Does anyone know of such a power supply, or am I going to be stuck building one myself, or having one custom built? Thanks for any information.
@@petruccirocks02 Thank you very much. That's exactly what I'm looking for. Just brought 2 on eBay from a retailer that I've purchased from a few times before, which always eases the nerves of purchasing on eBay. I hadn't even thought about checking Cioks, even though I have 2 of those pink power supplies that they made a few years ago, that some people found offensive. I thought that they were hilarious, as did my daughter. My wife thought I was a pig, which is mostly true, so I quit asking for her opinion long ago. Anyway, thanks for the recommendation, I really appreciate it. Now I can put together the board that I want, without having to rely on a bunch of wall warts.
In the US you have like ten warnings on your hot McDonald's beverage. Shouldn't there be a warning on the pedal that it might catch fire? Or better: shouldn't there be an electronic part in there that prevents an explosion like that? I mean...it's not unlikely some are going to try 18V on it, right?
I always loved the "Burning Schoolhouse" firework when I was a kid. Of course, we could never get the "Burning Overdrive Pedal" firework, so I had nothing to compare the schoolhouse to. Musta been something about fire regulations or whatever. But are you sure the fire wasn't simply because you had the gain set too high?
Can you imagine such a product sold in 2019? Homeland Security would lock you up for five years before you even got a phonecall.On the other hand, they might help to market the "Burning Drone Strike Mosque". Still , there's some crazy, uncensored shit still slipping out of China..
Your pedals. Your creation. You can do damn well what you please with them. Now I feel like buying one and setting it up as a security device for my home.
Read video description! I'm entirely astonished that so many haven't realized that this is satire.
18v Tumnus is also know as the Rammstein mod
Hahahahaha
Dann musst du es verbrennen
.. :P
Flammstein
@@matthijshebly 😂😂
Bang! Bang! Feuer Frei! 😂
I really liked the relic look on the burned Tumnus.
I was thinking the same. He should make a special "burnt tuminus" edition that looks like that and runs on 18V xD
He should release it on 4th of July or new years for all the fireworks involved
Does the Tumnus come with the firecrackers or do I have to buy those separately?
rahzark that’s the secret to the tone. shhhhhh 🤫
That's the "mojo".
I'd prefer nuclear firecrackers 🤪👌
Important safety tip, thanks Egon.
CodyMBB came here to post this!
But it looks like running it at 18v just adds more 'warmth'
Definitely gets a bit hotter 😉
It will literally be a FIRE BREATHING OVERDRIVE pedal.
I'm so glad I watched this . I was just about to plug my Tumnus straight into the 240V mains supply 😁👍
When I got my original Tumnus and plugged it in, I failed to set the knobs to zero. Once I clicked the button, my HRD blew. Awesome pedal and very powerful little thing.
I call BS on that flame job. The screws for the back cover were out, and no way the flames or smoke would be that big from over-voltage. The current limit on the 18v supply would prevent that response. I’ve seen direct shorts on 240vac not make that much flame or smoke. Brian exagerated the response to make a point of not trying this at home. Besides, if 18 volts would cause that, some lawyer would take his business for knowingly continuing to sell the product without preventive modification. It was cool to watch though, a thumbs up to Brian for getting us to hit play. Great pedal, love mine. John
I know this was probably an empty enclosure, but wanting a Tumnus and seeing it burn almost made me cry a little
So the Tumnus comes packed with an electric match and half an ounce of smokeless powder as stock? What does the TSA think about that?
Black powder, not smokeless.
I don't see combustion products.
@@Markle2kSmoke a plenty. Those with eyes shall see.
I was JUST about to do this, 😱good thing I looked it up first!
Haven’t had this crop up yet at GC....thankfully. Definitely going to make sure the staff knows to mention when we sell them.
-Aaron
Best video you have ever done! How about a new pedal inspired by this video...the Pyro!? Flash in the Pan!? LOL...I thought maybe a spark followed by a puff of smoke but dang...that is dangerous. Good on you for showing what happens.
One of my favourite gear demos
Great video brother Brian ! It takes the most iconic , most loved pedal builder to do such an immensely instructional video . Dig it bro ! Great idea . Keeping the dummies in check : )
Geeze think I might start turning off my pedalboard power supply and amps at the wall at night cheers for posting Brian.
LOVED this. it was like an episode of myth busters. great work Brian.
Pedal goes boom. Love it!
I'm sure after a little cleaning off the pedal, it will work just fine.
I think I'll buy 2 and plug the other one in on the 4th of july. Nice display!
Kidding, very good information as always ! Thank you
It’s a wonderful pedal. I run a silver archer into it, preceded by your mini-ego pedal. It’s a tasty mix of harmonics set for a richer sound pallet than one pedal.
That's spectacular,; seen a few smoke a little, and once witnessed a Peavy Classic Tweed burn slowly, - and I think this was due to old tubes combined with a dramatic temp shift, but it was also just old & heavily used,- but, yeah, - that would likely take the house with it.Some seem to get very excited if a pedal is designed to handle higher input, but the truth is, unless you're running into a 50 or 100 watt amp, there's no extra headroom to get,- just more volume, usually at the expense of harmonics and tone.Think the Fulltone Plimsoul taught that lesson,: excellent drive with nicely designed tone stack, and through headphones, you could hear the effect distinctly.Save that for the monster digital delay, / processing modulation monsters out there.Suprised they don't require even more power.
I love it. The fireworks powder really drove the point home. Maybe that'll save y'alls warranty dept some work(and / or denials o claims) keep up the good work, gang gang
I love the Tumnus, I love the fawn on the Tumnus, I love the story of Tumnus, and I love slow motion destruction of the Tumnus. Magic smoke indeed.
It gives you an extra warm tone with 18V :)
But if your friend has better tone than you....definitely plug his tumnus into 18V right?
Plug it into three phase just to be sure
Next 4th of July I'm going get a dozen Tumnus pedals with 18 volt power supplies, and a long extension cord. It's going to be epic!
Had to try it. No pyrotechnics, works fine.
Is the enclosure still usable? Looks good with that blackened gold.
I agree, put a fresh circuit inside, but don't clean the enclosure!
I had the same thought. What a weird way to relic a pedal!
Brian, amazing video! I always figured it's best to check the manual!
The question I have is about using a noise suppressor pedal where in the signal chain should ideally be??
Thanks for all the dulcet tone!
the best explaining i have ever seen))) 👍🧨
Now that's a great effects pedal!
That was sad and really cool all at the same time. 👍🏻😎👍🏻
I would gladly pay $20 for this burned up Tumnus pedal. But only if BW agrees to sign it. In fact, I'd like to suggest a new pedal line: Flamed Mojo by Wampler.
Would love to see some more “never do this” vids lol
I have to say I love my Tumnus Deluxe......it's one of my "always on" pedals.
Just been on Amazon to order a Tumnus and 18v power supply... I'll let you know what happens... or not!
I bought an Electro-Harmonix H.O.G. and Frequency Analyzer pedals at Guitar Center used. There was no power cable for the HOG so the associate used the one for the Analyzer.... not realizing it was a 40 volt pedal. Within 2 or 3 seconds it smelled like something was burning
That was so awesome!
Would love to get one of those enclosures rebuilt as a working pedal. Preferably a Tumnus and not a Metal Zone!
Cool effect pedal!
Posted 25 days late?
Haha I thought the same thing. Is this a April fools joke?
Hey Wamp,
Another great video. Very funny.
That was cool to watch.
i just wanted to say i’m a huge fan of the original tumnus. i’ve never had an overdrive pedal sound and feel so natural. i’ve been wanting a tumnus deluxe but sadly my guitar gear funds are in the red. if you ever want to NOT destroy one feel free to hook a man up. maybe i can make a video showing what one does when plugged into 9 volt adapter like they are meant for. :) if not i’ll still love you and someday buy one.
The new Tumnus Relic is now highly sought after.
I’d like to have that case gutted and new circuitry installed! Would be cool!
"Fake news!" ... I may be wrong, but my scepticism needle just went off the chart. I'm guessing that the pedal has some extra combustibles added to it. The fire/explosion was too dramatic for the components that a pedal usually has, and the bottom of the pedal being loose, just adds to my suspicion. Also, Brian looks like he is trying his best not to smirk. ;P
Still, I doubt many people will trying running it on 18v now, so mission accomplished, I suppose.
It does look like fiberglass insulation confetti when them electrolytic caps pop, and the diodes explode. That 7660s might bust too, I've never shot over voltage thru one, so pure speculation.
That's Brian and his sense of humor.
@@officialdirtmcgurt Well, as I said I could be wrong but I'd be willing to wager a few bucks that I'm not.
@@fishypaw I commented the same above. I see a distinct artillery shell smoke and crackle amidst the smoke. (He emptied some gunpowder and percolate into it fo the dramas of it)
Nicely demoed.
That Tumnus Deluxe is tempting
I'm adding that to my pedal board right away!
There should be a little disclaimer in tiny print stating that "This Is A Dramatization"
😝 it’s clearly a joke to make a point
Great vid! You should do a limited run of the Tumnus in Burt looking box! In would sell like hot cakes! No pun intended!....lol
I’m gonna try it now!
That’s a hot pedal!
Oh Brian, that beautiful tumnus all gone,😢🤦🏼♀️, we would have believed you 😁😁
Good to know, but is there a way to add like a "voltage tester" in the circuit that opens the power circuit and stops functioning?
How about a 24v power supply? Can I use that instead?
That was wicked!
You killed all the unicorns.
😂
So 18V is no good huh? Ok, but he didn't say anything about running it straight off 230V from the wall. I bet the transparent crunchy tightness will be amazing!
@Robbi Rose And crunchy.
hey man i hope you have time to answer a few questions for me. i have a standard Tumnus which has a sever problem with Pops when i engage it, its not exclusive to the tumnus as all my pedals do this to some extent, however the tumnus seems to literally be microphonic- meaning when i tap the pedal it makes noise, when i gently rub the patch cables coming from it it makes sound, when i touch the power in cable it reacts as if grounding issue or something. im just curious if this is normal or if mine is defective. it was bought second hand, and i run it from a battery power supply i built myself, but for the record it does it no matter how i power it. thanks!
On a more serious note, it`s a good idea to *understand* your pedals before rushing out to try something you saw mentioned on a forum. *Sometimes* what you read CAN actually have some validity. A kid brought his Timmy pedal over to my place because he had read that using a lowly LM1458 dual op-amp sounded "better". I figured that Paul Cochrane knew what he was doing, but it was no skin off my nose, so I unsoldered the existing chip, installed a socket. and we spent the evening trying out about 6 or 8 other dual op-amps. Much to my amazement, we both agreed that the cheap low-spec'd 1458 really DID sound the best of the lot; better than pricier "audiophile quality" chips.
But a little knowledge, or rather, a little internet rumor, can be a dangerous thing. So *understand* how your pedals work, FIRST, before trying out something off the beaten path.
Because the supply-voltage standard for pedals is 9V, many pedals attempting to work with higher supplies will either provide their own adapters (like EHX does for some of their pedals), or will use a "charge pump" chip to increase the supply voltage internally, or, in the case of the Tumnus, convert +9V into +/-9V (the equivalent of two 9v batteries). SOME pedals will work with much higher supply voltages than 9V. Some of them will show audible benefit. Many won't. And some, like Brian demonstrates, will most decidedly NOT work with anything other than what the chassis and instruction manual indicate, because of their design. UNDERSTAND YOUR PEDALS!
"Poor Mr Tumnus!" said Lucy.
People don’t know this is the best comment. Thank you for making it.
Like how the bottom plate was loose hiding those fireworks!
Fun video!
😲 Yeah... that would be all bad!!! To call it catastrophic failure almost understates the result!
Bringing the danger back to rock and roll...
If it says 9v then I assume there is a reason. I'm a guitarist not an electrician and I'd like to stay that way!
Lol--great video Brian to get the point across to those who “assume” any pedal can run on 18V............even though it looked like you put 480V AC through it🤣 My Crybaby 535Q runs on 18V - with this logic applied--who in their right mind would think that 36V would be ok?!
That was a few levels above just "letting the magic smoke out"
On the flipside, you've taken simply torching your guitar as a show-ender into the 21st century.
Poor thing. 😭 I wonder why protection circuits or local regulation to avoid noise is so uncommon on guitar pedals.
Brian asked for our thoughts on the video, so here's mine. The only thing I could think of during the entire video was: "Holy crap...Brian got an SLO!!!"
I once (by accident) fed 18V to an ehx soul food. In order to get it work again was all I needed to do was to replace a diode that acted as a fuse.
The Klon Centaur circuit has a 12v zener for over voltage protection. Weirdly though, there's no resistor to go with it. (An oversight?, or perhaps the circuit we've all seen online is not accurate.) Brian, why not add an inline resistor to limit the current should the zener start to conduct?
Sounds like we all want a weekly “Let’s get Fried” special where you blow up pedals! Looks like you could make your money back selling the relic’d cases!
That is how you change tumnus to a musket fuzz!
Best video ever!!!
Would have been better if you played the pedal
The Tumnus tone is literally on fire.
Cool, I wasn't expecting a show of fireworks!! Hahaha
I love you man!!!
Lmao I was just about to say, "wait, doesn't it have a charge pump???" It's super nice of you to do a video on this though. Better explosions than Michael Bay
Pretty certain I've done this a couple of times accidentally and the light came on and it made no sound. But it continues to work just fine. Probably not a great idea still though. That said, I'm in the UK, which possibly changes things a bit (or maybe not, I know literally nothing about electronics)
Hey Brian! What happens when you put it in an 80 ton hydraulic press? Former Letterman viewers wanna know....
I cried when I saw you Burn that Tumnus...why oh why!!!I always wanted to have that Pedal ..
Sometimes you gotta take one for the team. It’s surprising how many pedals I see where someone doesn’t read the manual and applies the wrong voltage.
*sob*
Where’s your Keith Flint “Firestarter” hairdo? Missed a trick there🤘🏻
Tumnus with 18 volt gun powder mod. Now at GC.
Speaking of 18 volts. I have several pedals that I like to run at 18 volts. The problem I'm having, is finding a power supply unit that has several 18 volt outputs. I've found a few that you can squeeze 4 out of, but I'm looking for something that will do 10-12 dedicated 18 volt outputs. Does anyone know of such a power supply, or am I going to be stuck building one myself, or having one custom built? Thanks for any information.
tiny b Cioks DC7 has 7 outlets that can do 9,12,15, or 18 volts. Each outlet puts out 660mA at 9 volts. It’s a great power supply.
@@petruccirocks02 Thank you very much. That's exactly what I'm looking for. Just brought 2 on eBay from a retailer that I've purchased from a few times before, which always eases the nerves of purchasing on eBay.
I hadn't even thought about checking Cioks, even though I have 2 of those pink power supplies that they made a few years ago, that some people found offensive. I thought that they were hilarious, as did my daughter. My wife thought I was a pig, which is mostly true, so I quit asking for her opinion long ago.
Anyway, thanks for the recommendation, I really appreciate it. Now I can put together the board that I want, without having to rely on a bunch of wall warts.
this cracked me to pieces
In the US you have like ten warnings on your hot McDonald's beverage. Shouldn't there be a warning on the pedal that it might catch fire? Or better: shouldn't there be an electronic part in there that prevents an explosion like that? I mean...it's not unlikely some are going to try 18V on it, right?
Spirou Blake usually there is, some pedals use a diode like a fuse
This is fake. I thought the same thing at first. Some kids is going to burin their house down. Then I realized this was fake!
Well no. It's designed to fail in a way that makes the user consciously more aware of what they are doing. Or kills them. Either way = win.
You should fill out that blown up pedal with new insides and do a giveaway. That'd be so cool.
Cajun Fawn - The latest release in the Tumnus series coming soon to a pedal retailer near you.
Why isn’t the totally buffed in stores yet?!
Is that now a b-stock?
Couldn’t you put a 9v voltage limiter on the power input?
Wow. I’ve let out magic smoke, but not like that. Nice!
I always loved the "Burning Schoolhouse" firework when I was a kid. Of course, we could never get the "Burning Overdrive Pedal" firework, so I had nothing to compare the schoolhouse to. Musta been something about fire regulations or whatever.
But are you sure the fire wasn't simply because you had the gain set too high?
Can you imagine such a product sold in 2019? Homeland Security would lock you up for five years before you even got a phonecall.On the other hand, they might help to market the "Burning Drone Strike Mosque". Still , there's some crazy, uncensored shit still slipping out of China..
That was rather entertaining.
I just accidentally ran 18v to my tumnus for like 5 mins. (Got the cables mixed up) It seems to work fine, is there anything I should worry about?
Your pedals. Your creation. You can do damn well what you please with them. Now I feel like buying one and setting it up as a security device for my home.