Pizza and beer is pretty standard for helping a friend for a couple of hours with moving. These days, tossing in some money for gas would be nice as well. If you know someone fairly well there's no harm in asking politely and if they don't want to, that's fine. If it's hitting up a coworker you barely know and expecting lots of heavy lifting and repeatedly hauling things across the city, that's another matter.
I tried that with one of my brothers. It didn't work. I helped him move a few times and he didn't even give anything like food or pop for the help. I don't even think I heard a thank you but I figured one day I would need his help and I ended up needing his help ( bc he has a truck) to return a small couch to costco. He always claimed he was too busy. It didn't matter what day it was. I would randomly ask him for over a year if he could spare an hour of his time anyday of the week. Needless to say, he never helped me. Im definitely never helping him move again! Also, I can see why now he had to have his little sister do so much for him when moving. I'm sure he burned all those bridges with his friends.
I think for the AITA story, nobody’s an asshole here. OP asked for what he’s used to, the guy isn’t interested, and though OP didn’t get it he didn’t get demanding.
If ANYONE tries to guilt or cajole me into paying for their food with the whole 'We FoRgOt OuR WaLlEt' bullshit, I would respond with this: "That sounds like YOUR problem. Good luck with that." And then I would leave them to their CONSEQUENCES.
Yea, if someone tried to do that to me I'd just tell the Waiter "We'd like to split the check, the two of us had the two cheaper meals, those two can handle their meals" and just pay for the meals we ate and leave the other two idiots to deal w/ their own.
I would say: We dont know them... so I am only paying our own 2 meals. These people are NOT attached to our meals, so I guess they cant usethose coupons either! So the neighbours pays their own $40 meal while the parents just pay their own meal.
And OP even mentioned they were paying for gas reimbursement, too. The coworker sounds like a bit of an ass for the way they rejected, but obviously within his right to reject.
Don't know where 2nd story takes place, but that doesn't sound like a choosing beggar. It's fine to ask friends and colleagues if they agree to help you for free. People do this all the time. Of course, one has the right to refuse, but I don't think proposing pizza and beer is a choosing beggar behaviour. I'm super happy getting pizza and beer after helping my friends move.
I agree. Its okay that the coworker was annoyed and would have preferred cash (though I might have been more polite about it) but it wasn't wrong to initiatially make that offer.
Ummm no. They asked the dude to drive an hour & spend hours with them moving, lots of friends are downbad & need help I get it but if we all do shit for free we’d be even worse off. I’d understand if they were close friends & they lived near by, but they clearly aren’t that close in friendship nor in location. I get they say they’d pay for the gas & food but that’s literally something you’re supposed to do as a kind person when someone helps you, atleast offer them a little cash, I have never once expected anything for free & people wonder why I have so many people do shit at random without me asking or paying a lot for it because they know I’ll always be a good host & person in the situation. Also RSlash is right, when you have a truck you get nagged all the time to do stuff & it’s annoying, so I don’t blame the guy for not wanting to spend his day off doing stuff he doesn’t want to.
I have always made the beer/soda and pizza arrangement with friends for moving too. The person with the truck may not see OP as a friend, and that's why they want monetary payment instead.
Yeah but definitely not a choosing beggar. I mean, they only asked, it was not even a demanding manner... And i helped friends for less than Pizza and Beer
As someone who works at a dog daycare, that “volunteer” thing is not only bullshit, but extremely unsafe. At my facility, I had to undergo their training program before they’d even leave me alone with a pack. Just because you love dogs doesn’t mean you can predict them and read their body language. Safety procedure is only part of keeping them safe
I always argue that majority of dog lovers don't even understand half of dog psychology. They only see dogs as emotional support, a family member or their "baby", and not as the pack animals they instinctively are. A pack animal requires a leader, and those dog owners won't act the part, so it makes them unfit as dog owners by default no matter how well they treat their dogs. If there were laws in place prohibiting people from owning dogs unless they not only went through a mandatory dog psychology course, but also had to pass a bunch of practical tests and be frequently evaluated, I'm certain that the number of dog owners would drastically decline.
Yea, leave them there with the other half and let them figure it out! I probably would have had some more choice words then just "NO" at the end of the night too but if they were stuck there with the other half I'm sure they would get the point.
@@SailorMya yep! Not my problem 🤷🏻♀️ of course that’s easier to say than do but like no way am I paying unless its for a close friend or family member who I know 100% would pay me back. And even them I’m not gonna be thrilled
The digging story brings me back to when my parents needed to repaint a rubber based paint on the walls to prevent water from soaking into the basement. This meant my dad and I (with a bit of help from my sis and nephew) would dig down ~8ft, 2ft wide and about 8ft long. After that was done, we filled the hole, refilled after the water compacted everything, and then moved the remaining dirt to the garden. We then filled the area with concrete for a patio which took about 3000 lbs worth. It was exhausting but it was a really good workout. Not to mention, my parents saved a ton of money just doing them themselves with me as their helper.
Yeah, I don’t have a truck or anything but have been asked to help friend move. Mainly just to help lift the heavier stuff into the uhaul. And was paid with pizza and drinks. And my friend had his stuff already packed up to go before I got to his old place. That’s a must.
If she had just left a bad living situation and kids having to wash in cold water she should consider approaching a shelter to see what govt programs they can get to access resources. But I'm willing to bet, they'd just resell it.
Hey, I'll happily take pizza and beer as payment for helping OP move. While I would prefer money, it's still a form of payment. And who doesn't like a good pizza and beer anyway after a hard day of helping a fellow friend move into their new home?
I wouldn't, but that's because I don't like beer and am lactose intolerant so no cheese. I would gladly help out for some other kind of free food and maybe a bottle of mead.
I work at a local family owned diner. We open at 6am. I need to be there at about 5am. So I wake up between 3-3:30 am. That’s so ridiculous she wants to pay 52 cents an hour. Wow! No thank you.
So about the whole truck thing, is i never really get bugged about borrowing it. I live in rual midwest USA, so basically everybody and their brother have a truck around here
I had a co-worker once ask our boss if he would use the truck he was demoing to help her get boxes to move. He had just turned the truck in, so he needed to sign it back out, then drive her across town to get boxes (which HE paid for), haul them to her house on the opposite end of town, then wait to carry the boxes inside until after she had gone inside so he wouldn't confuse her new puppy. It sort of became an in-joke among our department (she left because she was moving cities)
Because my husband owns a large truck and he's a rather large guy, he gets asked to help people move on average, twice a month or so. He used to help but that came to a screeching halt when we moved and not a single one of those people agreed to help. Not one. My husband was never paid or even comped for gas, there was usually just pizza and beer and he was fine with that. He just got tired of being taken advantage of. So, now when people ask, he just tells them he charges more than the professionals but he'll clear his schedule if they want. 🤷🏻♀️
For the last one, isnt it customary to pay the artist a portion of the fee to make sure the customer doesn't suddenly decided "meh, I dont like it" and bail, leaving the artist with something they cant use and time/materials wasted? No way in hell I'm paying a customer/employer especially when they're acting sketchy af🙄
@@ajjamsen694 nah, I'm freelance and have a lot of freelance/professional artist acquaintances, and almost everyone I've met has the 50/50 policy. The general idea is that the client won't get the art and bounce without paying, and the client is more trusting if a set payment is taken after a WIP is delivered
I'm an artist and I do 50/50, but when I order commissions, I like the 50/50 system too. From an artist perspective; I'm protected if the client bounces and decides they don't wanna pay the rest From a client perspective; I haven't spent all my money if the artist is shady and bails with my money.
I really don't think the op who was moving was being a CB. Nothing wrong with asking for help, and in my experience beer and pizza is the expected "payment" you give for friends and family that help you. Op even offered to pay for the gas - truck guy didn't have to be a dick with his response. Yeah, I get that you probably get asked a lot to help move crap all the time when you own a truck. I know because I usually assisted my dad with the countless asks growing up since he always had a pickup. I've even got the asks myself when I owned a pickup for a little while. But being annoyed at other people who have asked in the past isn't a good reason to be a dick.
yes but this guy is a random coworker, not even one OP considers a friend. I'd be upset too if some random I work with wanted me to move a bunch of heavy shit, drive around, and not pay for my time
There's nothing wrong with asking, I think the problem most people have is that op seems to be EXPECTING the coworker to help even though they don't know each other, even if they were friends or family it comes off as pretty entitled to think anyone owes them free labor
@@stormwright8300 Well maybe but I think it's more that OP misread the relationship he had with the coworker. He thought they were on friend basis but the coworker only sees OP as an acquaintance. Which would explain his reaction ass he would most likely want money and not want to hang with OP eating pizza and drinking beer.
@@edwardteach841 Where did they expect him to help OP move bc all im hearing is that OP was surprised that he wanted payment instead of food/drinks/gas money when thats standard when asking people you’re associated with to help u move. Like the guy could’ve just said no but instead chose to respond like a dick. I can understand why the guy might not want to or even be a little annoyed but that doesn’t automatically make OP the AH or a choosing beggar when they just asked for help and really dont seem like the type to get demanding after being refused considering they felt guilty enough to make an AITA post.
When I had to move for a school-related internship and thesis, I had two of my closest friends helping me to both load and unload the moving van. I covered rent for the van, covered the costs for their food and drink, and then once it was all said and done, gave both a bit of cash.
Yeah. Ot's always been a thing for us to just order pizza and sodas after we move the stuff or my dad would give someone a case of beer for borrowing their tools or using their vice ir grinder to sharpen his mower blades or something.
the first story: a private company earning profit should not be allowed to have volonteers or unpaid internships unless it's a student learning the job. people pay them to take care of their dog but they want free employees? hell nooo
My daughter had a son. We needed a stroller and my wife saw one on FB market. It cost 5 bucks but was so nice. The woman we got it from said she didn't list it for free just because she wanted to avoid the people who responded to free stuff. Best 5 dollars I spent last year.
Life hack: need a pick up truck to help move? Find a car lot with a nice test drive policy. Test drive a truck and use it to move. Return the truck saying that you’ll have to think on it and never come back. Most places don’t have specific time limits for test drives.
With gas prices now days that's more than a little shitty... My dad owns a carlot that I help out at and we do not limit test drives just as good business practice. It sucks that people will take advantage of that. If you do it, try not to screw small business owners and go for the larger companies.
Well you just told the world what kind of a choosing beggar you are. Weird flex though. Also, just like AMStudiodesigns said, you're screwing over small business owners. The bigger dealerships, like the one a buddy of mine owns, never do test drives unaccompanied. He was the best man at my wedding, I've known him for nearing 20 years, and one of his sales reps still went with us when we test drove our new vehicle. Don't be a jerk. Just rent a truck from U-Haul or even Home Depot.
Only time I understood an upfront fee it was separated from the job. My mum wanted a job giving vaccinations, she's a registered nurse, but didn't have her flu vaccination certification, which costs $1000 and some training. Also the moving thing didn't really seem like a choosing beggar, he was paying for gas, and given how expensive that is nowadays, thats more than enough lol.
For the 3rd story I would’ve been extra petty called back the waiter and tell that we’ll pay separately and let THEM figure out how to pay for THEIR $80 meal
Well, you have to see it through entitled person logic: In their minds, their coupons paid for their meals. Of course even if you accept that screwed up logic, since they had the more expensive meals, they should have covered the difference in price between their more expensive meals and the OP's less expensive meals. For decent ethical people, the two coupons should have been split between the couples, with each paying for the meal not covered by the coupon.
In my area renting a pickup or small delivery truck from Enterprise Commercial vehicles is 20% less expensive than U-Haul. Took my husband and I two days to move our entire house taking advantage of a 'special' at Enterprise for half the going rate (end of summer) at U-Haul.
The digging holes story reminds me of the time when my brother, father and I had to basically dig up our own drain field because the septic tank was overflowing. We spend a whole summer obliterating the overgrown trees and shrubs that had grown into the drain field, then dug about 35 feet of trench and filled it with drain rock. The point I’m making here mainly is about the ground though, we live in the high desert of Oregon, so digging here involves a lot of sand, clay and volcanic rock. I’ll never forget spending a whole day chopping away at solid clay with a pickax. So 200 bucks for the job itself doesn’t even account for the physical material, not even to mention how rocky or root filled that ground might be
it's not so much trying to get stuff for free, most people would appreciate free stuff whether they ask or not, it's wanting good quality/expensive stuff that makes it funny lol
About the coupons restaurant neighbors. I understand that hindsight is 20/20 and that I have already heard that history at least 3 times, but I just came up with a retort: "Look, your coupons just compt OUR meals, so, we can leave whenever. Your choice is either to pay half of the remaining, or ALL of it. Your move 😉"
I was helping my step mom get my grandma's place cleared and cleaned for sale. My grandma spent the entire time complaining about how my step mom was handling her stuff and walking on the floor in our shoes (we were going in and out and she really wanted us to take our shoes off each time). I don't think my step mom even got a thank you from my grandma. My grandma likes to use her age to pretend she's useless to get people to do stuff for her. My dad and step mom fall for it despite her openly admitting she does this. She learned quick that I'm not going to drop everything and come running for her every "issue"
I once sold a set of dishes on an facebook market place type thing, it's wild how quick you get people who actually want the thing once you say it isn't free. I sold them for $5 to a person who was sending their kid off to college, and wanted them to be as prepared as possible for their first apartment. When I listed the dishes as free, it was nothing but nonsense.
Lmaooooo i get paid over minimum wage to work that Doggy Day Care job for a major corporation. It's fun, but it's so damn challenging and you could absolutely not convince me to do it for free.
What!? Hey, neighbor: both the wait staff and the bill itself objectively said that YOUR food WASN'T already covered. I would've explained the situation to the wait staff and left those entitled a holes to deal with their own problem.
Pizza and Beer is thw standard payment for helping a friend/coworker either move, do yard work, or house work. Everytime I've helped I was paid on pizza and beer and every time some one has helped me, I payed the same or even made a big spread of food for them.
Digging/soil story: My husband and I are in the middle of serious landscaping projects. Part of it is just leveling. For a 1/4 area of a 3/4 acre of property only 2 inches down is going to run around $1,000-1300. We're in a small town in the South
Pro Tip: We always go to the nearest dealership and take a truck for “a test drive” to move anybody locally. As long as you’re extra careful, and don’t do any damage.. You can’t really be in trouble 🤷🏻♀️😂
I couldn't do this lmao With my father in law around he'd just put a big ol dent in it and I'd have to bring it back with some excuse about a deer dashing out of the bushes lmao
12:37 No, no, she didn't go in there TO cry. She went in there and when they went in, she was crying. And her explanation for it was that she was upset it took them so long to check on her. Meaning she went in to see what their reaction would be, THEN started crying when she realized they weren't running after her. This woman is dealing with some major main character delusions.
About the dirty deal I was doing work experience with my dad ( landscaping ) and we brought in 2 TONS of dirt from one of my dads friends ( they really over steel their dirt they say it’s ‘premium’ but it’s about 30% rock and 20% clay ) and that 2 tons covered between 4-8m square at about 4cm deep so a lot of dirt covers little land but it was still a 12 hour job ( only the two of us and I was sick ) and digging is even harder so that’s a big no
As someone who worked at a doggy daycare for YEARS- I can confirm it is demanding, low paying, with no rewards. Shittiest job I’ve ever had, and the bosses were always trash. I was also expecting something crazy to be said during that ad. But, that’s pretty on brand for an ad for doggy daycare employers.
Man I once had to help my dad dig a 1ft by 1ft hole in Georgia red clay to fix some sprinkler that had busted. THAT TOOK US ALL DAY. I'd be charging prices high enough to knock angels out the sky for the job the choosing begger is asking for and I ain't no professional
Food is the normal payment for friends/ coworkers helping you move. Helping a person move is one of those normal favors that come up in a friendship. I've helped multiple friends move, and that's literally all I expect-- that they at least provide beverages so everyone keeps hydrated. Food is also generally expected, and you're kind of seen as a cheapskate if you don't provide it, but it's not ABSOLUTELY required.
I've been a mover when I was young (during school vacations). It's had work. I don't have a truck or even the licence... but you can bet I've been enlisted to "help" family and even THEIR friends moving for the next 5 years or so... no compensation of course you can also bet that I either had back pain or no free time after that... when you work as a professional mover, you have hardware to help... when you help moving for free, they don't have anything most of the time and it make it 2 times harder at least, my main job was to dismantle the furnitures and put it back together afterward, save lots of hard work on my side and a lot of time for everyone else. Knowing the "how to" dismantling and geting back together of the furniture save time, space and money (when done correctly). Never forget that an ikea type of wardrobe is made to be put together ONE time... after that, it depend on how "gentle" you were when dismantling. Hire a pro who has an assurance against the damage... but if they're scammers, they will do it fast and neat and you will recoup the money you paid them by not buying new furniture to replace the broken ones... way less stressful too also, remember to picture where you want your furniture in the new place... moving it again and again is hard on the body, but even more on the mental when Karen is telling you repeatedly "a little more to the left, no, back a little to the right etc etc for 10 minutes for each piece. A little bit of imaging and preparation save a lot of time and effort
A loose-knit community helping each other move in exchange for pizza and beer sounds pretty normal, providing of course you're open to helping the next person along for the same terms. Coming from an acquaintance, I would categorise this kind of request as by no means mandatory, but nice of you to agree to. OP was definitely correct to offer petrol money. Truck colleague has every right to refuse so this story seems like a NAH rating. The house deposit person makes no mention of how they'll afford to pay for THE REST OF THE HOUSE PRICE. I know that the housing market is bonkers, but red flags there. And as I understand it, crowdfunding is not a very *quick* way to make money, so what I see going down is OP starts soliciting donations, the house meanwhile sells to someone who can afford it, OP keeps whatever donations they get, and the donors get scammed.
I’ve only owned trucks, and generally, I don’t mind helping people. For the most part, they’re very appreciative, and really that’s enough for me. Ive always refused cash payments and accepted no more than a burrito and a Soda. But there’s always an entitled person who believes that they’re doing you a favor by treating you with a pizza and beer for 3 hours of vehicle use and labor. I once helped a woman move a couple of furnitures at 11 pm because I had to work the evening shift. She wrote an email thanking everyone else who helped her that evening, and complained that it’s my fault that she didn’t get her stuff moved until late in the evening. Lol.
The food n drink arrangements are fine, that's whow my aunt covered payment for the two times I babysat my relatives, she isn't an EP btw and I was new to babysitting so it was good. But if its for a coworker... Yeah I can see why that won't work since he only has a truck and has no ties to OP
About the digging one. My parents bought some land that had a massive slope and was literally sand instead of dirt. There had previously been a house that had an oil tank leak, and the city just never cleaned it up (it was the city's property before my parents bought it) so my brother and I had to help my parents clean out the first layer and replace it with actual soil. Also, every year we had to add more cause it would sink slowly creating a massive dent in our yard. Over the 6 or so years we had that property, the least amount of time it took us to fill in the dent was 6 hours, with 7 people in total (My family, a dude we were paying, and 2 friends) by the end of it, we were all exsausted and had filled in roughly a 50x65 area.
We had a huge storm on halloween a few years ago that caused major flooding and washed away bridges. My buddy's apartment was a basement apartment so it flooded. It took 2 days of wading through cold waist high water to get his stuff out. We got paid in pizza and beer. We did it because he was in trouble and is a friend. Period.
I always tell people never sell something for free. I work in appliance sales and when people say they are just going to give away there old ones I tell them to price it cheep never free because of choosing beggars.
as a former pet hotel/doggy daycare employee, that job is EXTREMELY demanding and difficult. the only benefit is that you get to hang out with dogs all day. if you wanna do that for free just volunteer at a dog shelter
I’m a geotechnical (soils) engineer. Soil density can vary quite a bit depending on composition and moisture content. We usually estimate somewhere in the neighborhood of 100 to 120 pounds per cubic foot for the sandy soils around here.
On the coworker w/the truck story. Friends don’t mind helping one another, payment of pizza and beer is payment alone. However asking a coworker you don’t know solely on the aspect that he has a truck is different. If you guys don’t know each other no one’s not okay, however it doesn’t hurt to ask if he’d be willing. No one’s a butthole here. You for offering “Payment” and him for deciding his time is more valuable than pizza and beer
Pretty standard pizza and beer/drinks. When I've helped my in-laws move houses numerous times its always been a bottle of rum and food after everything is done
My husband was doing a job that was shoveling dirt. It had rocks and knots in it and he got about $20 for it. He spent pretty much two days to do this. The guy didn’t even want to pay him.
About the girl who closed the door and complained they didn't check on her. I'd have throwed the Ice Cream at her face. But good on you op for having self-control.
The woman with the water heater saying she needed it cause she was abused....... stop it. He tried to help you. I left an abusive ex and my car I was making payments on was stupidly in his name and had to leave it. I found a car on fb market place and the guy kept it almost a week so I could get all of the money together and I was soooooo grateful. But never once did I feel entitled to the car because he said he would wait. I didn't even get excited until I had the bill of sale and title and was driving away. That lady is nuts.
Just because people consider it "standard" to only pay in pizza and beer does not mean that it's not super annoying to always be bothered to help people move stuff for free, just because you have a truck. And just because something is common doesn't mean it should be the rule. Kinda like when we were teenagers and I was always asked for rides to places because I was the only one with a license. It gets old fast, and especially when people are suddenly your best friend because they want something. It's up to the individual, really.
I wasn't the only one in my group of friends as a teenager who could drive but I was one of only maybe two or three. And yeah I got saddled with giving rides too but since mostly I was going to the same places anyway it usually wasn't an issue. But when they started wanting to go score drugs then that's when they were told to find some other dick.
On the second story…..I sometimes babysit my little nephew when I’m off work for the day because I live in the same neighborhood as my sister while her usual babysitter lives 39minutes away… I don’t charge my sister for doing it…she always brings me a iced coffee when dropping off the kid and another iced coffee when she comes to pick him up and I love iced coffee so I don’t mind getting paid in iced coffee 😌😌
I got payed 12 hr for a dog shelter, and vets expect to pay workers 8/h for bathing dogs and cleaning dog shit along with professional cleaning. It's such an underpaid field
If you have a pickup you get requests all the time to help someone move, haul something from the store, etc. For good friends that's fine, if they offer pizza I'll gladly accept but I don't expect anything, we help each other out as needed. Casual acquaintances on the other hand are a pain. A few of them are thankful, most of them have the attitude "well you have the truck already, it's not costing you anything". So the truck is conveniently "in the shop, waiting on parts". That's the handy thing about having a vintage truck, half the time that's a true statement anyway ;)
@@skorpiongod oh, we know how insane that offer is. The bear baseline minimum wage that I'm aware of, at least in terms of the USA is something like $7.25/h so yeah...
As for moving the dirt part of this vid, in the company I work for (landscaping) my boss had me move 5-6 tons of rocks out of the back of a trailer by myself. For around 130$
I have a pick up truck, and I get asked three or four times a year mostly in the summer, to help people move. Or move a couch or a mattress or they’re buying furniture and need me to bring it to their house. Not once has anyone ever offered to give me gas money. It’s always will just do us a favor and will OU, you’re lucky to be offered gas money if you have a pick up truck. I’m sure he gets asked a lot help people move, it happens but for him to snap at you like that I think was a bit rude. There are no winners in the scenario
LOOOOOL the babysitter story with 125 dollars/week from 5am until 6 pm got me thinking, i've converted with what baby sitters earns here in one month, working/staying at the house for the babies..., it's less than 100 dollars/months.... i guess it always depends on where you stand in this world.
The moving and truck story, the guy wasn't an asshole for asking the truck owner to move, and, he offered to pay for the gas. That said, I used to be the person who would help a friend or family member for small stuff if they asked. Mostly, it was computer issues, but sometimes I'd help with other small things. The reason I did this was, my mindset at the time was 'well, if I help them, I'll have them to help me if I'm ever in need.' Yea. I was wrong. I learned that the hard way. So, I stopped helping them for free. Made a lot of people who called me family really mad. But hear me out. I don't think this qualifies as me being a choosing beggar. Computers can be expensive to get fixed (I speak from experience, I run a shop now.) and if anyone needed parts, then obviously I'd have them pay for said parts, because I'm not buying a $1,000 GPU for someone else's PC with my money, but anyway... They were mechanics. Looking at prices of labor alone around here, the other local PC shop charges $400 an hour for labor, and most mechanic shops charge similarly. I wasn't running my shop back then, when I was helping them, and the $400 an hour shop was the only one around. So, obviously with labor costs being so close, I wrongly expected that I would be helped if I ever needed it. One day, my fuel pump died in my truck. So, I called up every person who was a mechanic that I ever helped, and asked each of them to come and help me. Nada. None of them. So, needless to say, that taught me a very valuable lesson. Taught me two actually, as I decided that I needed to know how to work on engines, too. I don't tell many people that because I only work on my cars if they ever need it, and, while I'm good at it now, I run a PC repair shop and have no intentions of expanding to become a mechanic shop any time soon. Then again, I put the honesty back in running a business around here when I opened and only charged $30 an hour as opposed to $400.
Like said in other statements. the Food and drink, along with gas money for helping move is fine for somebody that you know. So that by itself doesn't make the person an asshole or a choosing beggar as long as they know the person decently. Yes having a truck can get you asked to help more often but even without a truck you can still be asked to help move stuff. For the restaurant story what the people should have done is called the manager over, asked to have the bills split for each couple and left the manager do deal with those two. The bridge is already burned, why pay the extra $20 - $30+ for their meals. All that did is leave them to try that with somebody else in the future. Had they been forced to pay for their meal that would have been a wake up call for them. They probably do stuff like this often and the other couple just paying for them allows it to happen.
I've dug a big hole to plant my young cherry tree and well, I had to remove several rocks and dig them free. I swear I spend hours and days digging just this one hole already. xD I also got a lemon tree coming but it's still very small. I will need to repot it soon tho otherwise it's running low / out of space for root growth.
Are actually friends with the coworker with the truck? Or he's just the only person you know with a truck? There's a difference. Dudes with trucks don't help move people for free + pizza + beer. Friends with trucks do.
It's not worth it but the weight of the dirt it irrelevant. It is the work the job entailed that was ridiculous for $200 I helped load at least 4000 pounds(200 plus bags) of mulch a day on weekends while working at Home Depot That amount of labor actually caused me to stop drinking soda regularly because only water would quench my thirst while working and soda started tasting too sweet
I had a friend in college who did that to me and honestly I've never been okay with it. We were shopping for Halloween costumes and both needed nylon stockings. They were on sale, buy 1 get 1 free. She insisted that it meant that she gets the free one and I'd pay full price. I think it's because she has 3 older sisters and a mom and was just used to pulling this on the women she normally shopped with. Idk really. I didn't care. We worked at the same work-study job, didn't make that much money and even though she laughed it off. I found it to be really entitled and rude and selfish. Tbh I had never had a friend treat me that way and since I had only known her for 1 month at that point, I didn't fuss with her about it. I honestly forgot about it until I heard that story. So it never affected our friendship going forward.
In Aus everyone has a ute or knows someone with a ute and if not most decent cars have tow hitch’s wether aftermarket or dealer fitted. It is always funny watching people tow a trailer in a Cruze or a camry
Moving truck story NTA… they offered to comp for gas. That is cash. That’s how we have operated in the past. Fill up our friends truck at the end, which was usually more than what used. And food and drinks for the physical labor. 🤷🏻♀️
Man code article 223, "when a friends asks for help you help him", coincides with article 48 when a friend asks to help with moving, pizza and beer are the only acceptable payment, he went a step further and offered you gas. You sir are a bad friend. Sincerely, Troy nonya, friendship lawyer
I saw the final story on Reddit, and Rslash missed a good bit - OP asked what the Terms & Conditions of the contract were, and the CB said that you needed to sign the contract before you got to see the Ts&Cs. OP was like "so I have to agree to Ts&Cs before I get to know what they are?!?!? Wtf?!?"
Pizza and beer is pretty standard for helping a friend for a couple of hours with moving. These days, tossing in some money for gas would be nice as well. If you know someone fairly well there's no harm in asking politely and if they don't want to, that's fine. If it's hitting up a coworker you barely know and expecting lots of heavy lifting and repeatedly hauling things across the city, that's another matter.
yep
I tried that with one of my brothers. It didn't work. I helped him move a few times and he didn't even give anything like food or pop for the help. I don't even think I heard a thank you but I figured one day I would need his help and I ended up needing his help ( bc he has a truck) to return a small couch to costco. He always claimed he was too busy. It didn't matter what day it was. I would randomly ask him for over a year if he could spare an hour of his time anyday of the week. Needless to say, he never helped me. Im definitely never helping him move again! Also, I can see why now he had to have his little sister do so much for him when moving. I'm sure he burned all those bridges with his friends.
I will happily help family or friends without payment or a few beers but a coworker I don't really know? Nah man
Right!
The be nice with some fuel money
I think for the AITA story, nobody’s an asshole here. OP asked for what he’s used to, the guy isn’t interested, and though OP didn’t get it he didn’t get demanding.
OP gets 1 out of 1 pizza slice and the other guy gets a 1 out of 1 truck bed
He could have been a little nicer in saying no, but he had every right to say no. No assholes here.
@@Richard_Nickerson lol they're all choosing beggar stories..?
@@Richard_Nickerson no they are choosing beggar stories
@@DrakeNAllen they are most likely posted on r/choosingbeggars but the original screenshot could be from r/AITA
If ANYONE tries to guilt or cajole me into paying for their food with the whole 'We FoRgOt OuR WaLlEt' bullshit, I would respond with this: "That sounds like YOUR problem. Good luck with that." And then I would leave them to their CONSEQUENCES.
Yea, if someone tried to do that to me I'd just tell the Waiter "We'd like to split the check, the two of us had the two cheaper meals, those two can handle their meals" and just pay for the meals we ate and leave the other two idiots to deal w/ their own.
And watch them suddenly, magically find their wallet.
As a wise man once said: a lack of planning on your part doesn't constitute an emergency on my part.
It’s just crazy how those neighbors took advantage of the fact that free meal coupons were involved and decided that meant they didn’t have to pay.
I would say: We dont know them... so I am only paying our own 2 meals. These people are NOT attached to our meals, so I guess they cant usethose coupons either!
So the neighbours pays their own $40 meal while the parents just pay their own meal.
On the coworker with a truck: it’s ok to ask. Unless they owe you it’s not ok to expect, and your request should come with a way out for them
Indeed. It all depended on how OP reacted to rejection, and it doesn't sound like they were too bad about it.
Honestly pizza and beer is a normal deal for help like that too
And OP even mentioned they were paying for gas reimbursement, too. The coworker sounds like a bit of an ass for the way they rejected, but obviously within his right to reject.
@@Panda-cute I'd say that depends on relationship before asking
@@Mothman1992 yeah that’s true, but it still doesn’t make OP a choosing beggar. Like yeah they’re fine to refuse they just could’ve been less rude
Don't know where 2nd story takes place, but that doesn't sound like a choosing beggar. It's fine to ask friends and colleagues if they agree to help you for free. People do this all the time. Of course, one has the right to refuse, but I don't think proposing pizza and beer is a choosing beggar behaviour. I'm super happy getting pizza and beer after helping my friends move.
I agree. Its okay that the coworker was annoyed and would have preferred cash (though I might have been more polite about it) but it wasn't wrong to initiatially make that offer.
Saying he'd pay for the gas, but then "pay" was pizza and beer?
My truck doesn't run on beer.
@@JasonW. pretty sure ‘paying for gas’ was something That goes with the beer and pizza.
Ummm no. They asked the dude to drive an hour & spend hours with them moving, lots of friends are downbad & need help I get it but if we all do shit for free we’d be even worse off. I’d understand if they were close friends & they lived near by, but they clearly aren’t that close in friendship nor in location. I get they say they’d pay for the gas & food but that’s literally something you’re supposed to do as a kind person when someone helps you, atleast offer them a little cash, I have never once expected anything for free & people wonder why I have so many people do shit at random without me asking or paying a lot for it because they know I’ll always be a good host & person in the situation. Also RSlash is right, when you have a truck you get nagged all the time to do stuff & it’s annoying, so I don’t blame the guy for not wanting to spend his day off doing stuff he doesn’t want to.
@@MsNoPixel man’s was literally 15 minutes away (I’d say that’s close, depending on where they live)
I have always made the beer/soda and pizza arrangement with friends for moving too. The person with the truck may not see OP as a friend, and that's why they want monetary payment instead.
Yeah but definitely not a choosing beggar.
I mean, they only asked, it was not even a demanding manner... And i helped friends for less than Pizza and Beer
That's a good theory maybe OP misread the relationship they had which will make sense why the coworker harshly declined.
@@spiderace7994 yeah I’m curious how it actually was going as the coworker was pretty rude if they were as close as op thought
Most coworkers. Are not close. And want nothing to do with each other outside of work hours.
As someone who works at a dog daycare, that “volunteer” thing is not only bullshit, but extremely unsafe. At my facility, I had to undergo their training program before they’d even leave me alone with a pack. Just because you love dogs doesn’t mean you can predict them and read their body language. Safety procedure is only part of keeping them safe
I always argue that majority of dog lovers don't even understand half of dog psychology. They only see dogs as emotional support, a family member or their "baby", and not as the pack animals they instinctively are. A pack animal requires a leader, and those dog owners won't act the part, so it makes them unfit as dog owners by default no matter how well they treat their dogs. If there were laws in place prohibiting people from owning dogs unless they not only went through a mandatory dog psychology course, but also had to pass a bunch of practical tests and be frequently evaluated, I'm certain that the number of dog owners would drastically decline.
Also, it is actually illegal for a for-profit business to have volunteer staff.
Ok if someone tries to force me to pay for their meals I would just explain this to the waitress/waiter and then ask to split the bill
Yea, leave them there with the other half and let them figure it out! I probably would have had some more choice words then just "NO" at the end of the night too but if they were stuck there with the other half I'm sure they would get the point.
Tell them "don't call us for another twenty years!"
@@SailorMya honestly I’d be so pissed I’m not sure I would pay at all. I’d probably be like well my meal isn’t on there 🤷🏻♀️ and leave
@@Panda-cute Very true! Screw the "We don't have money" crap and leave them to figure that out with the restaurant.
@@SailorMya yep! Not my problem 🤷🏻♀️ of course that’s easier to say than do but like no way am I paying unless its for a close friend or family member who I know 100% would pay me back. And even them I’m not gonna be thrilled
Last story is 1000% a scam. Each and every message sent by the "employer" always drop a red flag.
The digging story brings me back to when my parents needed to repaint a rubber based paint on the walls to prevent water from soaking into the basement. This meant my dad and I (with a bit of help from my sis and nephew) would dig down ~8ft, 2ft wide and about 8ft long. After that was done, we filled the hole, refilled after the water compacted everything, and then moved the remaining dirt to the garden. We then filled the area with concrete for a patio which took about 3000 lbs worth. It was exhausting but it was a really good workout. Not to mention, my parents saved a ton of money just doing them themselves with me as their helper.
"give me 30 to replace the money I paid for the broken one"
... no.
Yeah, I don’t have a truck or anything but have been asked to help friend move. Mainly just to help lift the heavier stuff into the uhaul.
And was paid with pizza and drinks.
And my friend had his stuff already packed up to go before I got to his old place. That’s a must.
Literally what my mom did for a friend. No one seemed angry about it and it was free food after hard work and relaxing with a friend.
They’re probably not even close friends
@@aamateur-artist still a super rude way to say no, and comes off as very snotty. He could just say he’s busy
@@Panda-cute while I dont think he should lie, he definitely couldve come off nicer
@@someguywithatophat7599 yeah. I don’t think its a big deal to give a white lie and spare some feelings but yeah
I remember seeing a sticker on a truck that can apply to the first story. It said "YES this is my truck. NO I won't help you move." 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I loved it!!
If she had just left a bad living situation and kids having to wash in cold water she should consider approaching a shelter to see what govt programs they can get to access resources.
But I'm willing to bet, they'd just resell it.
Hey, I'll happily take pizza and beer as payment for helping OP move. While I would prefer money, it's still a form of payment. And who doesn't like a good pizza and beer anyway after a hard day of helping a fellow friend move into their new home?
I wouldn't, but that's because I don't like beer and am lactose intolerant so no cheese. I would gladly help out for some other kind of free food and maybe a bottle of mead.
Yeah, but it sounded like that person wasn't actually a friend
@@RiveroftheWither Or some soda and tacos or maybe good ass meaty sub.
Yeah OP even said theyd comp gas like sign me up
@@spiderace7994 soda and tacos sounds fantastic right now
I work at a local family owned diner. We open at 6am. I need to be there at about 5am. So I wake up between 3-3:30 am. That’s so ridiculous she wants to pay 52 cents an hour. Wow! No thank you.
So about the whole truck thing, is i never really get bugged about borrowing it. I live in rual midwest USA, so basically everybody and their brother have a truck around here
I had a co-worker once ask our boss if he would use the truck he was demoing to help her get boxes to move. He had just turned the truck in, so he needed to sign it back out, then drive her across town to get boxes (which HE paid for), haul them to her house on the opposite end of town, then wait to carry the boxes inside until after she had gone inside so he wouldn't confuse her new puppy. It sort of became an in-joke among our department (she left because she was moving cities)
Because my husband owns a large truck and he's a rather large guy, he gets asked to help people move on average, twice a month or so. He used to help but that came to a screeching halt when we moved and not a single one of those people agreed to help. Not one. My husband was never paid or even comped for gas, there was usually just pizza and beer and he was fine with that. He just got tired of being taken advantage of. So, now when people ask, he just tells them he charges more than the professionals but he'll clear his schedule if they want. 🤷🏻♀️
Wow. That story made me so upset for you and your husband! Imagine the ego you'd have to have to deny that request.
For the last one, isnt it customary to pay the artist a portion of the fee to make sure the customer doesn't suddenly decided "meh, I dont like it" and bail, leaving the artist with something they cant use and time/materials wasted? No way in hell I'm paying a customer/employer especially when they're acting sketchy af🙄
usually it's 50% before, they send a WIP (to make sure the customer is happy with posing, lighting, etc) and 50% before delivery
@@justaperson4656 that's what I thought, I thought I was crazy(ier) 😄
@@ajjamsen694 nah, I'm freelance and have a lot of freelance/professional artist acquaintances, and almost everyone I've met has the 50/50 policy. The general idea is that the client won't get the art and bounce without paying, and the client is more trusting if a set payment is taken after a WIP is delivered
I'm an artist and I do 50/50, but when I order commissions, I like the 50/50 system too.
From an artist perspective; I'm protected if the client bounces and decides they don't wanna pay the rest
From a client perspective; I haven't spent all my money if the artist is shady and bails with my money.
Rslash, there's nothing wrong with asking for help with good and pizza, she even was willing to pay for the gas for it
Asking to a friend sure! To a random coworker? Awkward
@@crizmeow8394 I mean, I've had coworkers who've helped me and my family. It just depends on the relationship.
I really don't think the op who was moving was being a CB. Nothing wrong with asking for help, and in my experience beer and pizza is the expected "payment" you give for friends and family that help you. Op even offered to pay for the gas - truck guy didn't have to be a dick with his response.
Yeah, I get that you probably get asked a lot to help move crap all the time when you own a truck. I know because I usually assisted my dad with the countless asks growing up since he always had a pickup. I've even got the asks myself when I owned a pickup for a little while. But being annoyed at other people who have asked in the past isn't a good reason to be a dick.
yes but this guy is a random coworker, not even one OP considers a friend. I'd be upset too if some random I work with wanted me to move a bunch of heavy shit, drive around, and not pay for my time
There's nothing wrong with asking, I think the problem most people have is that op seems to be EXPECTING the coworker to help even though they don't know each other, even if they were friends or family it comes off as pretty entitled to think anyone owes them free labor
@@stormwright8300 Well maybe but I think it's more that OP misread the relationship he had with the coworker. He thought they were on friend basis but the coworker only sees OP as an acquaintance. Which would explain his reaction ass he would most likely want money and not want to hang with OP eating pizza and drinking beer.
I suppose, I wasn't thinking of him being a random coworker.
@@edwardteach841 Where did they expect him to help OP move bc all im hearing is that OP was surprised that he wanted payment instead of food/drinks/gas money when thats standard when asking people you’re associated with to help u move. Like the guy could’ve just said no but instead chose to respond like a dick. I can understand why the guy might not want to or even be a little annoyed but that doesn’t automatically make OP the AH or a choosing beggar when they just asked for help and really dont seem like the type to get demanding after being refused considering they felt guilty enough to make an AITA post.
When I had to move for a school-related internship and thesis, I had two of my closest friends helping me to both load and unload the moving van. I covered rent for the van, covered the costs for their food and drink, and then once it was all said and done, gave both a bit of cash.
Yeah. Ot's always been a thing for us to just order pizza and sodas after we move the stuff or my dad would give someone a case of beer for borrowing their tools or using their vice ir grinder to sharpen his mower blades or something.
the first story: a private company earning profit should not be allowed to have volonteers or unpaid internships unless it's a student learning the job. people pay them to take care of their dog but they want free employees? hell nooo
My daughter had a son. We needed a stroller and my wife saw one on FB market. It cost 5 bucks but was so nice. The woman we got it from said she didn't list it for free just because she wanted to avoid the people who responded to free stuff. Best 5 dollars I spent last year.
Life hack: need a pick up truck to help move? Find a car lot with a nice test drive policy. Test drive a truck and use it to move. Return the truck saying that you’ll have to think on it and never come back. Most places don’t have specific time limits for test drives.
That’s perfect THANKS FOR THE FREE TRUCK
@@theorangeeyepodscp1318 you do have to return it eventually😂. And don’t frick it up while moving.
With gas prices now days that's more than a little shitty... My dad owns a carlot that I help out at and we do not limit test drives just as good business practice. It sucks that people will take advantage of that.
If you do it, try not to screw small business owners and go for the larger companies.
Well you just told the world what kind of a choosing beggar you are. Weird flex though.
Also, just like AMStudiodesigns said, you're screwing over small business owners. The bigger dealerships, like the one a buddy of mine owns, never do test drives unaccompanied. He was the best man at my wedding, I've known him for nearing 20 years, and one of his sales reps still went with us when we test drove our new vehicle.
Don't be a jerk. Just rent a truck from U-Haul or even Home Depot.
@@BerryCuddles agreed. If I do that I don't do it for small businesses. Just either bigger companies or butthole companies.
Only time I understood an upfront fee it was separated from the job. My mum wanted a job giving vaccinations, she's a registered nurse, but didn't have her flu vaccination certification, which costs $1000 and some training.
Also the moving thing didn't really seem like a choosing beggar, he was paying for gas, and given how expensive that is nowadays, thats more than enough lol.
For the 3rd story I would’ve been extra petty called back the waiter and tell that we’ll pay separately and let THEM figure out how to pay for THEIR $80 meal
Yeah some people just don’t have a spine unfortunately, drives me crazy
Well, you have to see it through entitled person logic: In their minds, their coupons paid for their meals. Of course even if you accept that screwed up logic, since they had the more expensive meals, they should have covered the difference in price between their more expensive meals and the OP's less expensive meals. For decent ethical people, the two coupons should have been split between the couples, with each paying for the meal not covered by the coupon.
In my area renting a pickup or small delivery truck from Enterprise Commercial vehicles is 20% less expensive than U-Haul. Took my husband and I two days to move our entire house taking advantage of a 'special' at Enterprise for half the going rate (end of summer) at U-Haul.
The digging holes story reminds me of the time when my brother, father and I had to basically dig up our own drain field because the septic tank was overflowing. We spend a whole summer obliterating the overgrown trees and shrubs that had grown into the drain field, then dug about 35 feet of trench and filled it with drain rock. The point I’m making here mainly is about the ground though, we live in the high desert of Oregon, so digging here involves a lot of sand, clay and volcanic rock. I’ll never forget spending a whole day chopping away at solid clay with a pickax. So 200 bucks for the job itself doesn’t even account for the physical material, not even to mention how rocky or root filled that ground might be
52 cents an hour dang Mr crabs got more than that for spongebob
Watching choosing beggars trying to get stuff for free is just hilarious
it's not so much trying to get stuff for free, most people would appreciate free stuff whether they ask or not, it's wanting good quality/expensive stuff that makes it funny lol
tbh, the "i need someone to dig holes for me" reminds me of the two boy scout projects I did with installing sprinkelers.
Trench one sounds like someone building a moat around their house.
Which, if push comes to shove, doesn't sound all that bad to me. LOL
About the coupons restaurant neighbors. I understand that hindsight is 20/20 and that I have already heard that history at least 3 times, but I just came up with a retort:
"Look, your coupons just compt OUR meals, so, we can leave whenever. Your choice is either to pay half of the remaining, or ALL of it. Your move 😉"
I'd do like in the commercial:
"Hey, can you help me move?"
"Oh, sorry, I can't. I'm busy that weekend."
"I... uh... didn't say *which* weekend."
I had a truck most of my life with a bumper sticker that read YES this is my truck, NO I won't help you move.
I was helping my step mom get my grandma's place cleared and cleaned for sale. My grandma spent the entire time complaining about how my step mom was handling her stuff and walking on the floor in our shoes (we were going in and out and she really wanted us to take our shoes off each time). I don't think my step mom even got a thank you from my grandma. My grandma likes to use her age to pretend she's useless to get people to do stuff for her. My dad and step mom fall for it despite her openly admitting she does this. She learned quick that I'm not going to drop everything and come running for her every "issue"
I once sold a set of dishes on an facebook market place type thing, it's wild how quick you get people who actually want the thing once you say it isn't free. I sold them for $5 to a person who was sending their kid off to college, and wanted them to be as prepared as possible for their first apartment. When I listed the dishes as free, it was nothing but nonsense.
Lmaooooo i get paid over minimum wage to work that Doggy Day Care job for a major corporation. It's fun, but it's so damn challenging and you could absolutely not convince me to do it for free.
Sweats nervously at 10:25 because I wake up at 5am to be at work before 8am..lol
What!?
Hey, neighbor: both the wait staff and the bill itself objectively said that YOUR food WASN'T already covered.
I would've explained the situation to the wait staff and left those entitled a holes to deal with their own problem.
Pizza and Beer is thw standard payment for helping a friend/coworker either move, do yard work, or house work. Everytime I've helped I was paid on pizza and beer and every time some one has helped me, I payed the same or even made a big spread of food for them.
Digging/soil story:
My husband and I are in the middle of serious landscaping projects. Part of it is just leveling. For a 1/4 area of a 3/4 acre of property only 2 inches down is going to run around $1,000-1300.
We're in a small town in the South
Pro Tip: We always go to the nearest dealership and take a truck for “a test drive” to move anybody locally. As long as you’re extra careful, and don’t do any damage.. You can’t really be in trouble 🤷🏻♀️😂
I couldn't do this lmao With my father in law around he'd just put a big ol dent in it and I'd have to bring it back with some excuse about a deer dashing out of the bushes lmao
@@lj2265 oof yeah, don’t bring him lol
12:37 No, no, she didn't go in there TO cry. She went in there and when they went in, she was crying. And her explanation for it was that she was upset it took them so long to check on her. Meaning she went in to see what their reaction would be, THEN started crying when she realized they weren't running after her. This woman is dealing with some major main character delusions.
About the dirty deal I was doing work experience with my dad ( landscaping ) and we brought in 2 TONS of dirt from one of my dads friends ( they really over steel their dirt they say it’s ‘premium’ but it’s about 30% rock and 20% clay ) and that 2 tons covered between 4-8m square at about 4cm deep so a lot of dirt covers little land but it was still a 12 hour job ( only the two of us and I was sick ) and digging is even harder so that’s a big no
As someone who worked at a doggy daycare for YEARS- I can confirm it is demanding, low paying, with no rewards. Shittiest job I’ve ever had, and the bosses were always trash. I was also expecting something crazy to be said during that ad. But, that’s pretty on brand for an ad for doggy daycare employers.
Man I once had to help my dad dig a 1ft by 1ft hole in Georgia red clay to fix some sprinkler that had busted. THAT TOOK US ALL DAY. I'd be charging prices high enough to knock angels out the sky for the job the choosing begger is asking for and I ain't no professional
Food is the normal payment for friends/ coworkers helping you move. Helping a person move is one of those normal favors that come up in a friendship. I've helped multiple friends move, and that's literally all I expect-- that they at least provide beverages so everyone keeps hydrated. Food is also generally expected, and you're kind of seen as a cheapskate if you don't provide it, but it's not ABSOLUTELY required.
I've been a mover when I was young (during school vacations). It's had work.
I don't have a truck or even the licence...
but
you can bet I've been enlisted to "help" family and even THEIR friends moving for the next 5 years or so... no compensation of course
you can also bet that I either had back pain or no free time after that...
when you work as a professional mover, you have hardware to help...
when you help moving for free, they don't have anything most of the time and it make it 2 times harder
at least, my main job was to dismantle the furnitures and put it back together afterward, save lots of hard work on my side and a lot of time for everyone else. Knowing the "how to" dismantling and geting back together of the furniture save time, space and money (when done correctly). Never forget that an ikea type of wardrobe is made to be put together ONE time... after that, it depend on how "gentle" you were when dismantling.
Hire a pro who has an assurance against the damage... but if they're scammers, they will do it fast and neat and you will recoup the money you paid them by not buying new furniture to replace the broken ones... way less stressful too
also, remember to picture where you want your furniture in the new place... moving it again and again is hard on the body, but even more on the mental when Karen is telling you repeatedly "a little more to the left, no, back a little to the right etc etc for 10 minutes for each piece. A little bit of imaging and preparation save a lot of time and effort
A loose-knit community helping each other move in exchange for pizza and beer sounds pretty normal, providing of course you're open to helping the next person along for the same terms. Coming from an acquaintance, I would categorise this kind of request as by no means mandatory, but nice of you to agree to. OP was definitely correct to offer petrol money. Truck colleague has every right to refuse so this story seems like a NAH rating.
The house deposit person makes no mention of how they'll afford to pay for THE REST OF THE HOUSE PRICE. I know that the housing market is bonkers, but red flags there. And as I understand it, crowdfunding is not a very *quick* way to make money, so what I see going down is OP starts soliciting donations, the house meanwhile sells to someone who can afford it, OP keeps whatever donations they get, and the donors get scammed.
My father always warned us to NEVER buy a pickup truck, because once you do, everyone will ask you to help them move.
I’ve only owned trucks, and generally, I don’t mind helping people. For the most part, they’re very appreciative, and really that’s enough for me. Ive always refused cash payments and accepted no more than a burrito and a Soda. But there’s always an entitled person who believes that they’re doing you a favor by treating you with a pizza and beer for 3 hours of vehicle use and labor. I once helped a woman move a couple of furnitures at 11 pm because I had to work the evening shift. She wrote an email thanking everyone else who helped her that evening, and complained that it’s my fault that she didn’t get her stuff moved until late in the evening. Lol.
The food n drink arrangements are fine, that's whow my aunt covered payment for the two times I babysat my relatives, she isn't an EP btw and I was new to babysitting so it was good. But if its for a coworker... Yeah I can see why that won't work since he only has a truck and has no ties to OP
About the digging one. My parents bought some land that had a massive slope and was literally sand instead of dirt. There had previously been a house that had an oil tank leak, and the city just never cleaned it up (it was the city's property before my parents bought it) so my brother and I had to help my parents clean out the first layer and replace it with actual soil. Also, every year we had to add more cause it would sink slowly creating a massive dent in our yard. Over the 6 or so years we had that property, the least amount of time it took us to fill in the dent was 6 hours, with 7 people in total (My family, a dude we were paying, and 2 friends) by the end of it, we were all exsausted and had filled in roughly a 50x65 area.
We had a huge storm on halloween a few years ago that caused major flooding and washed away bridges. My buddy's apartment was a basement apartment so it flooded. It took 2 days of wading through cold waist high water to get his stuff out. We got paid in pizza and beer. We did it because he was in trouble and is a friend. Period.
I always tell people never sell something for free. I work in appliance sales and when people say they are just going to give away there old ones I tell them to price it cheep never free because of choosing beggars.
you know it's gonna be good when rslash laughs while explaining what the next post is
as a former pet hotel/doggy daycare employee, that job is EXTREMELY demanding and difficult. the only benefit is that you get to hang out with dogs all day. if you wanna do that for free just volunteer at a dog shelter
I’m a geotechnical (soils) engineer. Soil density can vary quite a bit depending on composition and moisture content. We usually estimate somewhere in the neighborhood of 100 to 120 pounds per cubic foot for the sandy soils around here.
On the coworker w/the truck story. Friends don’t mind helping one another, payment of pizza and beer is payment alone. However asking a coworker you don’t know solely on the aspect that he has a truck is different. If you guys don’t know each other no one’s not okay, however it doesn’t hurt to ask if he’d be willing. No one’s a butthole here. You for offering “Payment” and him for deciding his time is more valuable than pizza and beer
Pretty standard pizza and beer/drinks. When I've helped my in-laws move houses numerous times its always been a bottle of rum and food after everything is done
The truck story really depends on how well op knows the coworker
My husband was doing a job that was shoveling dirt. It had rocks and knots in it and he got about $20 for it. He spent pretty much two days to do this. The guy didn’t even want to pay him.
I had a sticker made for my old Ford. It read, "NO, I can't help you move this Saturday".
My mother in law owns a truck and she has a sticker that says, "No I won't help you move".
@@chelseaqualls4047 great minds
rSlash left out the fact that, in the last story, they wanted 100 comic pages in 2 weeks.
Can I just say, his Karen voice is AMAZING!! Like it sounds like an American version of Delores Umbridge from the Harry Potter movies.
About the girl who closed the door and complained they didn't check on her. I'd have throwed the Ice Cream at her face. But good on you op for having self-control.
The woman with the water heater saying she needed it cause she was abused....... stop it. He tried to help you. I left an abusive ex and my car I was making payments on was stupidly in his name and had to leave it. I found a car on fb market place and the guy kept it almost a week so I could get all of the money together and I was soooooo grateful. But never once did I feel entitled to the car because he said he would wait. I didn't even get excited until I had the bill of sale and title and was driving away. That lady is nuts.
Just because people consider it "standard" to only pay in pizza and beer does not mean that it's not super annoying to always be bothered to help people move stuff for free, just because you have a truck. And just because something is common doesn't mean it should be the rule. Kinda like when we were teenagers and I was always asked for rides to places because I was the only one with a license. It gets old fast, and especially when people are suddenly your best friend because they want something. It's up to the individual, really.
I wasn't the only one in my group of friends as a teenager who could drive but I was one of only maybe two or three. And yeah I got saddled with giving rides too but since mostly I was going to the same places anyway it usually wasn't an issue. But when they started wanting to go score drugs then that's when they were told to find some other dick.
So guy code says that friends help friends move. That said, I don't ask random people I know at work to help me move.
Yeah, I've worked in dog sitting before and while it is usually minimum wage, there is at least still a wage
On the second story…..I sometimes babysit my little nephew when I’m off work for the day because I live in the same neighborhood as my sister while her usual babysitter lives 39minutes away… I don’t charge my sister for doing it…she always brings me a iced coffee when dropping off the kid and another iced coffee when she comes to pick him up and I love iced coffee so I don’t mind getting paid in iced coffee 😌😌
Pizza and bear is the standard rate for moving a friend... that's just the way it is.
I got payed 12 hr for a dog shelter, and vets expect to pay workers 8/h for bathing dogs and cleaning dog shit along with professional cleaning. It's such an underpaid field
If you have a pickup you get requests all the time to help someone move, haul something from the store, etc. For good friends that's fine, if they offer pizza I'll gladly accept but I don't expect anything, we help each other out as needed. Casual acquaintances on the other hand are a pain. A few of them are thankful, most of them have the attitude "well you have the truck already, it's not costing you anything". So the truck is conveniently "in the shop, waiting on parts". That's the handy thing about having a vintage truck, half the time that's a true statement anyway ;)
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Wait Rslash, $0.52/hour for babysitting is not minimum wage. 😅
What he's saying is even minimum wage is way to low for him to do that job to amplify how insane the actual offer is.
@@skorpiongod oh, we know how insane that offer is. The bear baseline minimum wage that I'm aware of, at least in terms of the USA is something like $7.25/h so yeah...
Last story really puts the Con in Contract.
So many people needing things "desperately" but not desperate enough to figure out how to get what they're _desperate_ for.
As for moving the dirt part of this vid, in the company I work for (landscaping) my boss had me move 5-6 tons of rocks out of the back of a trailer by myself. For around 130$
I have a pick up truck, and I get asked three or four times a year mostly in the summer, to help people move. Or move a couch or a mattress or they’re buying furniture and need me to bring it to their house. Not once has anyone ever offered to give me gas money. It’s always will just do us a favor and will OU, you’re lucky to be offered gas money if you have a pick up truck. I’m sure he gets asked a lot help people move, it happens but for him to snap at you like that I think was a bit rude. There are no winners in the scenario
LOOOOOL the babysitter story with 125 dollars/week from 5am until 6 pm got me thinking, i've converted with what baby sitters earns here in one month, working/staying at the house for the babies..., it's less than 100 dollars/months.... i guess it always depends on where you stand in this world.
The neighbors didn't bring any money...so, they weren't even going to tip for what they expected to be a free meal. Oof....
They literally tried to trick and trap their neighbors into a free meal, they tip in life lessons.
The moving and truck story, the guy wasn't an asshole for asking the truck owner to move, and, he offered to pay for the gas. That said, I used to be the person who would help a friend or family member for small stuff if they asked. Mostly, it was computer issues, but sometimes I'd help with other small things. The reason I did this was, my mindset at the time was 'well, if I help them, I'll have them to help me if I'm ever in need.' Yea. I was wrong. I learned that the hard way. So, I stopped helping them for free. Made a lot of people who called me family really mad. But hear me out. I don't think this qualifies as me being a choosing beggar. Computers can be expensive to get fixed (I speak from experience, I run a shop now.) and if anyone needed parts, then obviously I'd have them pay for said parts, because I'm not buying a $1,000 GPU for someone else's PC with my money, but anyway... They were mechanics. Looking at prices of labor alone around here, the other local PC shop charges $400 an hour for labor, and most mechanic shops charge similarly. I wasn't running my shop back then, when I was helping them, and the $400 an hour shop was the only one around. So, obviously with labor costs being so close, I wrongly expected that I would be helped if I ever needed it. One day, my fuel pump died in my truck. So, I called up every person who was a mechanic that I ever helped, and asked each of them to come and help me. Nada. None of them. So, needless to say, that taught me a very valuable lesson. Taught me two actually, as I decided that I needed to know how to work on engines, too. I don't tell many people that because I only work on my cars if they ever need it, and, while I'm good at it now, I run a PC repair shop and have no intentions of expanding to become a mechanic shop any time soon. Then again, I put the honesty back in running a business around here when I opened and only charged $30 an hour as opposed to $400.
Like said in other statements. the Food and drink, along with gas money for helping move is fine for somebody that you know. So that by itself doesn't make the person an asshole or a choosing beggar as long as they know the person decently. Yes having a truck can get you asked to help more often but even without a truck you can still be asked to help move stuff.
For the restaurant story what the people should have done is called the manager over, asked to have the bills split for each couple and left the manager do deal with those two. The bridge is already burned, why pay the extra $20 - $30+ for their meals. All that did is leave them to try that with somebody else in the future. Had they been forced to pay for their meal that would have been a wake up call for them. They probably do stuff like this often and the other couple just paying for them allows it to happen.
I've dug a big hole to plant my young cherry tree and well, I had to remove several rocks and dig them free. I swear I spend hours and days digging just this one hole already. xD
I also got a lemon tree coming but it's still very small. I will need to repot it soon tho otherwise it's running low / out of space for root growth.
Somewhere in the rolls of acceptable payments for various services, pizza and beer is officially listed as the reward for helping friends move.
Are actually friends with the coworker with the truck? Or he's just the only person you know with a truck? There's a difference. Dudes with trucks don't help move people for free + pizza + beer. Friends with trucks do.
Common etiquette when helping friends/family move is you get paid in food and booze, possibly gas money depending on distance/gas prices.
It's not worth it but the weight of the dirt it irrelevant. It is the work the job entailed that was ridiculous for $200
I helped load at least 4000 pounds(200 plus bags) of mulch a day on weekends while working at Home Depot
That amount of labor actually caused me to stop drinking soda regularly because only water would quench my thirst while working and soda started tasting too sweet
That "upset because it took so long to check on her" nonsense is super manipulative
NEVER "hot water heater". One does not heat hot water. One uses a water heater.
Lol. I definitely get up at 4am and certainly get paid a lot more than minimum wage to do it. XD
I had a friend in college who did that to me and honestly I've never been okay with it.
We were shopping for Halloween costumes and both needed nylon stockings. They were on sale, buy 1 get 1 free. She insisted that it meant that she gets the free one and I'd pay full price.
I think it's because she has 3 older sisters and a mom and was just used to pulling this on the women she normally shopped with. Idk really. I didn't care. We worked at the same work-study job, didn't make that much money and even though she laughed it off. I found it to be really entitled and rude and selfish. Tbh
I had never had a friend treat me that way and since I had only known her for 1 month at that point, I didn't fuss with her about it.
I honestly forgot about it until I heard that story. So it never affected our friendship going forward.
In Aus everyone has a ute or knows someone with a ute and if not most decent cars have tow hitch’s wether aftermarket or dealer fitted. It is always funny watching people tow a trailer in a Cruze or a camry
Moving truck story NTA… they offered to comp for gas. That is cash. That’s how we have operated in the past. Fill up our friends truck at the end, which was usually more than what used. And food and drinks for the physical labor. 🤷🏻♀️
Man code article 223, "when a friends asks for help you help him", coincides with article 48 when a friend asks to help with moving, pizza and beer are the only acceptable payment, he went a step further and offered you gas. You sir are a bad friend.
Sincerely, Troy nonya, friendship lawyer
I saw the final story on Reddit, and Rslash missed a good bit - OP asked what the Terms & Conditions of the contract were, and the CB said that you needed to sign the contract before you got to see the Ts&Cs. OP was like "so I have to agree to Ts&Cs before I get to know what they are?!?!? Wtf?!?"