The thing is JOKIC CAN average 30 to 31 ppg but he chooses not just for the sake of his teammates . I hate the fact that arenas tries his HARDEST to discredit Jokic and his dominace over the game it’s ridiculous 🤦🏽♂️
@@ReverendSam1 yeah two consecutive regular season MVPs, Finals MVP, championship, 5 all-NBA teams, and that’s not even factoring in his revolutionary game lol all time great
@@Eye_Know "Revolutionary game"🤔, he's a BIG w/post moves & great passing abilities, I saw that in Olajuwon & Shaq!! He's a great player but all-time 😐....... have to wait & see!!
Let me say that as a Canadian I am rooting for Shai… and love Luka too… but the disrespect for Joker is ridiculous. He has 25 triple doubles this year…. Doesn’t miss games…. He IS the system for DEN… he’s crazy efficient… and he absolutely dominates the game offensively in every facet. He doesn’t have to score 35 a game. He makes the Nuggets much more difficult to guard when he’s passing the ball to cutters and shooters. There would be nothing wrong with him winning another MVP. Also… Chet and Jalen are damn good. Let’s not sleep on them.
Don’t sleep on Murray either.. nuggets are 41-14 with him this year and 13-10 without him.. Jokic has set a standard of MVP-level play every year at this point (same with Giannis).. that will land him in the HOF.. no doubt about it.. but that doesn’t mean that he just wins MVP every year for doing the same thing lol.. he’s having a very good season.. but I think Luka and Shai are really breaking through this year (mostly Luka, I think Shai has one more year to go).. personally, I’d give it to Luka.. 34/9/10 is wild..
@@gbmbg114what your failing to Mention is how many games they lose with jokic not playing, And lets not even talk about the 10+ point leads that the nuggets lose when jokic isnt playing. let's get one thing Straight JOKIC IS THEIR OFFENSE and they cant create shots without him, something i can't say for the other two who have Josh Giddey and kyrie As Secondary and Pretty Good playmakers for their teams😂
Hows he hating when he's choosing two other players who cook the Lakers as an MVP? You see how slow this sounds? SGA and Luka are balling and if they were there on their teams, Dallas wouldn't be in playoff contention and the Thunder would be a lottery team or playin. Yall just be talking bs fr.
@@jamjam9564 you should watch what he was saying about Jokic few days ago on this podcast and on Shanon podcast too. Today he was realy realy trying not to look bad.
OKC and Denver have been going back and forth at first in the WC. Denver are the defending champs and mature team. OKC is one of the youngest teams in the NBA with the Spurs and Pistons. OKC has improved way more than Denver. Doesn’t take brain surgeon to see that. Denver should be dominating the WC like Boston is doing the EC, as their core 4 players have been healthy all season.
@@ninocrown3247 casual take. Murray has been injured. Saying you improved a lot just means you were trash not too long ago. When it matters, Denver has consistently clutched up. This is all public information mind you.
You know that this pod only watches clips. Anytime they show a clip on here you could tell us the first time they’ve seen it. It is so obvious the Gil does not watch games.
I think the competition moved the goalpost.. Luka is averaging 34/9/10?? Jokic is at 26/12/9… Denver has won more games.. but Luka is gonna win more than Jokic did in either of his MVP seasons with better individual performances than Jokic this year.. and I think Shai is doing more heavy lifting with his young squad.. I do think it’s a year early for Shai though.. Jokic will probably win, but I’d have him 3rd.. I think he’s getting extra credit because of what he did in the postseason last year (and I’m not mad at that)..
Everyone talks about the top teams missing guys to injury and how much better they would be with them… what about the Mavs missing most of it’s rotation players from november-january?? We had 1 center (gone), 1 co-star (gone), 2 wings (green gone for a long time), our stretch 5 (gone)… all gone at various times during those 3 months while lot of the top teams where healthy. Give us a break dammit 🤬
Jokic isn’t dominating but Denver is number 1😅?! I get that we don’t like that Jokic gets worshipped whilst other players don’t get the same appreciation; but until someone shows they’re better than Jokic, Jokic is MVP.
Boston has the best record in the league by a wide margin, so why isn't Tatum in the MVP convo? 🤔 The NBA has found their Great White Hope. Jokic is definitely an elite force in the league, but they are going to push him until they can't anymore.
Jokic is getting busy but Tatum SGA and Edwards should be in the mvp talks based on playing both sides of the ball and team wins💯that’s how the mvp use to go before these analytical nerds stepped into the league
@@leseanwalston7916 no shit they didn’t record this episode today. i watched it live. were they right? or wrong? not one person said, “maybe the Nuggets could end up as the 1st seed” so desperately trying to discredit Jokic and the Nuggets. Mccants is talking about “what about a healthy KAT” and even made an argument for LeBron of all players so few people in sports media, former player or not, watch the Nuggets consistently, or they just hate watch and it’s so obvious
@@trips963 tbh he does not deserve 3 straight tho. Jordan never got that Kobe never got that and lebron never got that and im pretty sure they were beyond worthy for more than 3 straight
They should never be able to mention Jokic or the Nuggets when Kenyon isn't there because he's the only one who calls out their dumbass takes and keeps them in check.
These people talk basketball all day but dont educate themselves on advanced stats. The man Jokic has been leading the nba in PER, Plus-Minus, Win shares and OWS for the past 4 seasons and are confused why Jokic is always winning the MVP
@@mikelmoon100to winning? No they aren’t. He just proved he’s the best player on the league last playoffs run. Shai faced an elimination game last year and he had a 26% from the field against Minnesota. That shows the type of player he is.
We are just lucky these clowns don't have a vote to give. Can't believe Gil is pushing this narrative against Jokić, but kinda not surprised given the fact that the biggest accomplishment of his career was dropping a bunch of points of Kobe. Instead of paying his due respect to a dude waaaay more talented than him, who already won a few MVPs, was robbed last year cuz of Perk's racist comments, has a ring. But what to expect from a guy who praises LeBroom like mad...
@@GlimeStreet He had a healthy starting 5 the entire season including the RotY runner up while Luka had to carry the Mavs for the 25 games Kyrie missed out of the first 50. Feel free to tell me who on the Mavs would start on OKC over their starting 5 (since poor Shai has had the worse team all season….😭 )
@Galatasaray71 they would. Their starting 5 are legit. They all sacrifice for each other. People make it seem like those guys are scrubs. A.G, MPJ and Jamal Murry are all lottery pics.
@@Dre_aka_sleepysandman LOOOOOL Lottery picks??? You mean all rejects from other teams and one player who learned team basketball only because of playing with Jokic!
I love that people just throw out names Gordon was on his way out the league if he didn’t join the nuggets and secondly all these glorified role players joker has to play with stop acting like this Starting 5 would even be a play in team
When he heard 26 12 9 Gil said "normal basketball"😂 loved that she made air quotes at least😂😂😂Jokic is the MVP sorry Gil..who's an all star on Denver beside Joker? No one..Gil is straight up hating Jokic and I bet he haven't watch a game he played😂😂😂 stop it..btw can someone pushback at Gil nonsence once in a while? Damn
The problem with this podcast is that Arenas feels that he is extremely smarter than everyone. So even when he makes no damn sense at all he believes with his limited and biased mind that he is making complete sense.
Joker is beating SGA in every category except points and steals. Joker does things that nobody at his position does. He is like point guard. SGA doesn't do anything that a center does. It is not like SGA grabs 10 or more board a game.
2 re tarded guys and a clueless woman try to compare stats…. Shai leads Luka in TWO categories only….FG% (legit) and steals (by 0.7). OKC is in 3rd now, and Luka (in 5th just out of 4th) leads by 3.5ppg, DOMINATES in TS%, leads comfortably in Reb and Assists, and took a FAR worse team (with many more missed games due to injury) to within 4 wins of OKC). How stupid do you have to be to not understand?
@@Semperityy who is more valuable to their team than the leading scorer in the league AND the 2nd leading in assists? Luka literally leads SGA in every category except FG% and steals (again, by 0.5) and their teams are only 5 games apart in wins. What makes SGA better than the guy better at everything (MEASURABLE) than him?
@@TacticalSteezif Luka was black they would say he’s the mvp. Bro is putting historic numbers. They hate jokic because he’s gonna win his 3rd mvp and they don’t want that.
Jokic goes to the bench with a 10 point lead. By the time he comes back in the game Denver is barely in the lead or trailing. Then Jokic does his magic and back to the domination again. Easy MVP!
@@jamjam9564 bro forgot about chet, and jdub for shai. Luka has Kyrie and post all star break they started playing pj washington and pj gafford and they been cooking. Lets not do that.
Nuggets are 13-10 without jamal murray... Nuggets are 2-1 without jokic this year (all road games).... I'm sorry, it's not Jokic. Luka's stats are WAY more impressive, and the mavs (although they are 5th in standings) are only 6 games behind the nuggets. SGA deserves it more (better stats, same record, less help). Luka deserves it more (way better stats, not that different record). Jason Tatum deserves it more (way better record, close stats and better defender). Even Anthony Edwards deserves it more (similar stats, MUCH better defender, much more valuable to team, same record and might end up first even with so many games that Kat missed). I love the joker, but he's not even trying to win MVP this season.
@@madderz952 you realize that’s still above 500 right? N jokic didn’t play in all those games buddy. N in the games he played, have you seen his numbers? There’s no debate. The nuggets are the first seed bc of that man, stop it boy
Check out the VORP numbers: Jokic is 1st with 10.2. 2nd, 3rd and 4th are Luka with 7.7, Giannis with 7.0 and Shai with 6.8. I'm sorry but Jokic is on a level above the rest of the pack, a full 2.5 points ahead of the rest. Thats a huge gap considering only 100 NBA players are above 0. Take any advanced stat PER, WS/48. BPM Jokic is 1st in all of them. He deserves the MVP. Question is whether y'all wanna give him the award.
My top 10 MVP candidates: Antetokounmpo, Brunson, Davis, Doncic, Durant, Edwards, Gilgeous-Alexander, Jokic, Sabonis, Tatum. Any of them could win and I would be happy.
Y’all don’t do any research. Y’all just come on here and say what y’all think based on who y’all like. Defensive Rating: Jokic 4th SGA 13th Defensive Win Shares: Joker 17th SGA 16th Defensive team rating: Nuggets 8th Thunder 9th Rebounds: Joker 12.4 SGA 5.5 Steals: Joker 1.3 SGA 2.1 Blocks: Joker 0.9 SGA 0.9 Y’all can stop with this whole SGA is the only person who plays defense narrative. Your whole narrative is based on him averaging one more steal per game? You can’t be serious One day some of y’all will realize that nobody on this panel actually watch games. They’re all narrative guys.
I look at his podcast as educational, he is showing us everything we should not be...tnx Gil you are awesome teacher, kids pay attention and listen to this guy closely and dont forget to do everything opposite
Jokic went on a 15 game stretch of 25/11/9 on 71/50/90 shooting. As a CENTER!? That is UNIMAGINABLE‼️ It's never been done and never will be done again..as a CENTER!
I agree with the panel. Shai is averaging 30 and leading the league in steals, leading a young team that had controversy to the best record in the west
Jokic is top 10 in points, rebounds, and assists. Only player to do that. Gil said they have to factor in the team but Jokic makes his teammates much better. That is what being valuable is all about.
Jokic stats this year - 26.4, 12.4, 9 assist, 57% FG This is not normal basketball Shai - 30, 5.5, 6.3 assist, 54% FG. great but Jokic has more rebounds, assist and FG% with 26.4 points
MVP, DPOY, ROY… should be voted every months to avoid end of the season bias and media narratives. At the end of the year you do the math a and the best players win. Also, if a player is hurt for a month he won t be voted that month. And that will pénalise him at the end of the year when cumulating points.
Maxey and Oubre been playing well for Philly and they definitely were when Embiid was playing early this season. The talk was the 76ers are better now with out harden
I think it's real close between Jokic, Luka, SGA they each have their own arguments worthy of MVP. Jokic the favorite to win it his numbers are crazy and his team is first in West now I think. Luka numbers are arguably the best of the 3 and Mavs are like 4-5th. SGA numbers are very good, he carried his young team to 1st for a portion of the season but now they're 2nd or 3rd and he's top 10 in defense. Whichever wins it the rest will be robbed it is what it is only 1 can win it they better not do no tie. I would like SGA to win it because of how young his team is with their record also because of his defense
That was a good sign at the end. I know when I focus on what I need to and don’t watch Corn then, things do seem to workout better for me!! IJS!! 💯🏆🤑👊🏾
The fact that Giannis has the 2nd best record in the east 7th in the entire nba and is avg 31/12/7 and is shooting 61% from the field and didn’t get mentioned is insane bro rite now the mvp race should be shai luka joker Giannis Tatum
What’s crazy is everything Gil said about jokic could be applied to joker. 1. Jokic hasn’t played with no all stars 2. Jamal Murray missed 20 plus games this year. 3. Sga is averaging less points this year then last year but the team is interestingly better then last year in standings. Cause guess what he got better team mates. Sga got a top 5-10 center this year and Jalen Williams progress to a 20 pt scorer. For those saying Sga is averaging more assists it’s cause they are limiting giddy meaning he has had to take on more point guard duty. Sga didn’t really got better, it’s his team. His team mates are more due to their standing then Sga
Skill also matters. And SGA is simply not in the same tier as Luka, Jokic, healthy Embiid or Giannis. His stats last year are not less spectacular than this year and the ascension of OKC has more to do with the improvement of Jalen, Chet and the team as a whole than with SGA's overall impact. Gil's hating HARD
NBA: All right, Gill. The big question is, "does he like you?" All right? Because if he doesn't like you, this is all a moo point. Gill: Huh. A moo point? NBA: Yeah, it's like a cow's opinion. It just doesn't matter. It's moo.
Subtract 1% from every stat for every game every player misses. 20 missed games subtract 20% off of their stats now tell me who exactly is the MVP . you gotta be on the court…AVAILABLE!
The arguments made make sense - Shai is basically carrying a bunch of nobodies to the top seed. Taytum has Brown, Luka has Kyrie, Jokic has a good veteran group around him.
Some of y’all make it blatantly obvious you don’t actually watch any of these teams play on a regular basis. Saying that Jaylen, Williams, and Chet Holmgren are a bunch of nobodies is a brain dead take. Jalen Williams is better right now than every shooting guard in the Western Conference not named Anthony Edwards, Paul, George or Kyrie Irving
@@skatchannel2024 Jalen and Chet will undoubtedly be all stars and they’re already playing at a very high-level. They’re both already top 50 players. That is not a nobody. That’s like saying Derrick Whiteis a nobody. he’s a major contributor to the team. That’s like saying Jamal Murray is a nobody. it’s like saying Victor Wembanyama is a nobody. You see how not being an all-star does not make you a nobody
SGA is 1st team all nba. He did this exact shit last year. They have Chet playing this year and now look at that team. SGA does have a great 2nd & 3rd player on his team
Idk who said AI shit for SGA but that is not even close to a fair comparison 💀SGA has a wayyyy better team than AI like he got JDub, Chet, Isaiah Joe, Cason Wallace, the weirdo like he has a GREAT team and AI had a few below average roster so let’s not say “some AI shit” like SGA is carrying scrubs
His argument is flawed from the start; experience doesn't equal success, talent does. Okc is a talented team that plays together and everyone fills a role. Same with Denver that's why they're successful.
The thing is JOKIC CAN average 30 to 31 ppg but he chooses not just for the sake of his teammates . I hate the fact that arenas tries his HARDEST to discredit Jokic and his dominace over the game it’s ridiculous 🤦🏽♂️
They did the same to Lebron. he doesn’t deserve to be close to Lebron in mvp count
@@jasonpompey6731 he had 2 historically great seasons so
@@ichirosuzuki2252 Lebron has had many historically great seasons.
It’ll be funny when Jokic wins his 3rd MVP and solidifies himself even more as an all time great
All time great after ONE championship 🤔.......interesting!!
@@ReverendSam1 yeah two consecutive regular season MVPs, Finals MVP, championship, 5 all-NBA teams, and that’s not even factoring in his revolutionary game lol
all time great
@@ReverendSam1 how many multiple MVP winners AREN’T all-time greats
like how interesting is the original take really lol
@@Eye_Know "Revolutionary game"🤔, he's a BIG w/post moves & great passing abilities, I saw that in Olajuwon & Shaq!! He's a great player but all-time 😐....... have to wait & see!!
@@Eye_Know BTW the MVP is overrated & saturated now....... IMO 🤔!!
Arenas is trying so hard to discredit Jokic
bra yall act like lil girls over these oversea players shai or luka deserves it im going shai! but wont be mad if luka wins it!
@@SoCalOnTheBeatis Luka not an overseas player 💀💀💀💀
@@martinlopes9437Where is he from? overseas?
luka is the mvp
@@CahlilWessonhe's from Slovenia.
Hate is real
Let gilbert cook!
Agree
Sga has a team full of rookies . He sec deserves it
The tears when Jokic wins will be delicious. We’re going to smoke that Gil’s arena pack
It’s gonna be the same shit as last year 😂 all this hating and Jokic still gonna haul the Nuggets back to the Finals
Let me say that as a Canadian I am rooting for Shai… and love Luka too… but the disrespect for Joker is ridiculous.
He has 25 triple doubles this year…. Doesn’t miss games…. He IS the system for DEN… he’s crazy efficient… and he absolutely dominates the game offensively in every facet. He doesn’t have to score 35 a game. He makes the Nuggets much more difficult to guard when he’s passing the ball to cutters and shooters. There would be nothing wrong with him winning another MVP.
Also… Chet and Jalen are damn good. Let’s not sleep on them.
Don’t sleep on Murray either.. nuggets are 41-14 with him this year and 13-10 without him..
Jokic has set a standard of MVP-level play every year at this point (same with Giannis).. that will land him in the HOF.. no doubt about it.. but that doesn’t mean that he just wins MVP every year for doing the same thing lol.. he’s having a very good season.. but I think Luka and Shai are really breaking through this year (mostly Luka, I think Shai has one more year to go).. personally, I’d give it to Luka.. 34/9/10 is wild..
@@gbmbg114what your failing to Mention is how many games they lose with jokic not playing, And lets not even talk about the 10+ point leads that the nuggets lose when jokic isnt playing. let's get one thing Straight JOKIC IS THEIR OFFENSE and they cant create shots without him, something i can't say for the other two who have Josh Giddey and kyrie As Secondary and Pretty Good playmakers for their teams😂
Nuggets are 2-1 without Jokic this season.. the thunder are 1-5 without SGA
Mavs are 4-6 without Luka.. sixers are 14-27 without Embiid.. only team without a winning record is the nuggets without Jokic
Arenas is hating Jokic because he destroyed Lakers every single time this year xD
Hows he hating when he's choosing two other players who cook the Lakers as an MVP? You see how slow this sounds? SGA and Luka are balling and if they were there on their teams, Dallas wouldn't be in playoff contention and the Thunder would be a lottery team or playin. Yall just be talking bs fr.
@@jamjam9564 so would the nuggets without jokic...
@@jamjam9564 you should watch what he was saying about Jokic few days ago on this podcast and on Shanon podcast too. Today he was realy realy trying not to look bad.
Nope sga killing normal for jokic
How are they dominating when Denver is in first in the west? 😂 some people actually watch basketball. This pod just watches clips.
OKC and Denver have been going back and forth at first in the WC. Denver are the defending champs and mature team. OKC is one of the youngest teams in the NBA with the Spurs and Pistons. OKC has improved way more than Denver. Doesn’t take brain surgeon to see that. Denver should be dominating the WC like Boston is doing the EC, as their core 4 players have been healthy all season.
@@ninocrown3247Denver should be dominating the west with who just him n a injured jamal shut that dumb shit up
@@ninocrown3247it’s easy to dominate the weak ass east that’s a stupid comparison
@@ninocrown3247 casual take. Murray has been injured. Saying you improved a lot just means you were trash not too long ago. When it matters, Denver has consistently clutched up. This is all public information mind you.
You know that this pod only watches clips. Anytime they show a clip on here you could tell us the first time they’ve seen it. It is so obvious the Gil does not watch games.
these mfs be doing the same goalpost moving that they complain about the voters doing every season
Nah That’s Mainly Gil. He Always Does It When Rashard Gets Him
😂
They hating on joker I hope they repeat as champs they literally said what he do jus win the chip wtf
I think the competition moved the goalpost.. Luka is averaging 34/9/10?? Jokic is at 26/12/9… Denver has won more games.. but Luka is gonna win more than Jokic did in either of his MVP seasons with better individual performances than Jokic this year.. and I think Shai is doing more heavy lifting with his young squad.. I do think it’s a year early for Shai though..
Jokic will probably win, but I’d have him 3rd.. I think he’s getting extra credit because of what he did in the postseason last year (and I’m not mad at that)..
Everyone talks about the top teams missing guys to injury and how much better they would be with them… what about the Mavs missing most of it’s rotation players from november-january?? We had 1 center (gone), 1 co-star (gone), 2 wings (green gone for a long time), our stretch 5 (gone)… all gone at various times during those 3 months while lot of the top teams where healthy. Give us a break dammit 🤬
@@wzrdhndrixx7089 he won't lol. They suck. He isn't Kobe
Jokic isn’t dominating but Denver is number 1😅?! I get that we don’t like that Jokic gets worshipped whilst other players don’t get the same appreciation; but until someone shows they’re better than Jokic, Jokic is MVP.
Boston has the best record in the league by a wide margin, so why isn't Tatum in the MVP convo? 🤔
The NBA has found their Great White Hope. Jokic is definitely an elite force in the league, but they are going to push him until they can't anymore.
@@tbjb009 how is Tatum better than Jokic? Please make the argument? If he misses 5 games the Celtics still have a chance to win 5 in a row.
OKC hit a skid while SGA wasn't playing & I believe that's what makes him MVP.......#SGAforMVP!!
I know you’re white
@@tbjb009they’ve been waiting since Larry Bird for a white man to love like this😂
Really asked what jokic did this year
Jokic is getting busy but Tatum SGA and Edwards should be in the mvp talks based on playing both sides of the ball and team wins💯that’s how the mvp use to go before these analytical nerds stepped into the league
They mace it sound like him winning the chip was nothing lol
Jokic is the best player in the league but SGA is MVP....... IMO!!
This people are delusional
"normal" basketball LOL
When I want to disagree with someone, I watch Gil :)
Shai is young, he'll win it someday.
That’s your only argument! Smh come with a better reason
@@amazing2five274 bro, English is my third language and if you check the meaning of the word “argument”, you’ll see that I didn’t present any
the Thunder are actually *3rd* in their conference… not *1st*
Ya by a game or 2… stop crying SGA the MVP.
Clearly they recorded this episode days ago they're still talking about Rockets streak... Be attentive bruh..🤣🤣🤦🏿♂️
@@Russeljohnson776why is he the mvp?
@@Russeljohnson776shai not winning the mvp stop dreaming
@@leseanwalston7916 no shit they didn’t record this episode today. i watched it live.
were they right? or wrong?
not one person said, “maybe the Nuggets could end up as the 1st seed” so desperately trying to discredit Jokic and the Nuggets. Mccants is talking about “what about a healthy KAT” and even made an argument for LeBron of all players
so few people in sports media, former player or not, watch the Nuggets consistently, or they just hate watch and it’s so obvious
Why Im not surprised they are not picking Jokic lol.
Because he's not the mvp? Probably why you're not surprised.
@@trips963 Jokic is not the MVP to anyone who has serious mental retardation
@@trips963 Explain to me why he's not the MVP?
@@trips963 tbh he does not deserve 3 straight tho. Jordan never got that Kobe never got that and lebron never got that and im pretty sure they were beyond worthy for more than 3 straight
@@5280Misfit answer this who has the better overall team
Lmao McCants really said “ RedTube” 😂 😂 😂 😂
This man really hates Jokic 🤦🏾♂️😭😭
They should never be able to mention Jokic or the Nuggets when Kenyon isn't there because he's the only one who calls out their dumbass takes and keeps them in check.
These people talk basketball all day but dont educate themselves on advanced stats. The man Jokic has been leading the nba in PER, Plus-Minus, Win shares and OWS for the past 4 seasons and are confused why Jokic is always winning the MVP
Real hoppers don’t look at the game threw the stat sheet unless they talking about Lebron
Advanced stats are contextually deceiving.
@@mikelmoon100to winning? No they aren’t. He just proved he’s the best player on the league last playoffs run. Shai faced an elimination game last year and he had a 26% from the field against Minnesota. That shows the type of player he is.
@@mikelmoon100 How? Do your research on analytics. Numbers don't lie
@@Drcakesgamingdid win the years he won mvp?
We are just lucky these clowns don't have a vote to give. Can't believe Gil is pushing this narrative against Jokić, but kinda not surprised given the fact that the biggest accomplishment of his career was dropping a bunch of points of Kobe. Instead of paying his due respect to a dude waaaay more talented than him, who already won a few MVPs, was robbed last year cuz of Perk's racist comments, has a ring. But what to expect from a guy who praises LeBroom like mad...
Jokic
Luka
Shai
I’d switch Joker and Luka but I have no hard feelings if Joker wins.
How tf is shai 3rd he has no superstar or all star 2nd option team hardly has any experience and is 2nd seed you make 0 sense
@@SDesWriter luka is not over shai braaa put the fanboy stuff aside logic tells you sga is mvp unanimously
@@GlimeStreet what logic. C’mon, educate me on how you can be worse at scoring, rebounding, and assists and still be better?
@@GlimeStreet He had a healthy starting 5 the entire season including the RotY runner up while Luka had to carry the Mavs for the 25 games Kyrie missed out of the first 50.
Feel free to tell me who on the Mavs would start on OKC over their starting 5 (since poor Shai has had the worse team all season….😭 )
Jokic 3.0 MVP!!
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Whos is the all star on the nuggets outside of jokic?
Gilbert is racist.
They wouldnt even be in the play in without him
@Galatasaray71 they would. Their starting 5 are legit. They all sacrifice for each other. People make it seem like those guys are scrubs. A.G, MPJ and Jamal Murry are all lottery pics.
@@Dre_aka_sleepysandman LOOOOOL Lottery picks??? You mean all rejects from other teams and one player who learned team basketball only because of playing with
Jokic!
I love that people just throw out names Gordon was on his way out the league if he didn’t join the nuggets and secondly all these glorified role players joker has to play with stop acting like this Starting 5 would even be a play in team
Anyone with eyes can see that Gilbert is racist. He always has an agenda against foreign players unless they’re black.
When he heard 26 12 9 Gil said "normal basketball"😂 loved that she made air quotes at least😂😂😂Jokic is the MVP sorry Gil..who's an all star on Denver beside Joker? No one..Gil is straight up hating Jokic and I bet he haven't watch a game he played😂😂😂 stop it..btw can someone pushback at Gil nonsence once in a while? Damn
The problem with this podcast is that Arenas feels that he is extremely smarter than everyone. So even when he makes no damn sense at all he believes with his limited and biased mind that he is making complete sense.
Joker is beating SGA in every category except points and steals. Joker does things that nobody at his position does. He is like point guard. SGA doesn't do anything that a center does. It is not like SGA grabs 10 or more board a game.
You don’t have to care ab the award. U need to care about winning, which is the only thing jokic (or another true mvp) would
2 re tarded guys and a clueless woman try to compare stats….
Shai leads Luka in TWO categories only….FG% (legit) and steals (by 0.7). OKC is in 3rd now, and Luka (in 5th just out of 4th) leads by 3.5ppg, DOMINATES in TS%, leads comfortably in Reb and Assists, and took a FAR worse team (with many more missed games due to injury) to within 4 wins of OKC).
How stupid do you have to be to not understand?
They are retarded because they are picking a guy that actually plays defense??? So idiotic!!!
😂😂😂😂Luke the MVP
@@Semperityy who is more valuable to their team than the leading scorer in the league AND the 2nd leading in assists? Luka literally leads SGA in every category except FG% and steals (again, by 0.5) and their teams are only 5 games apart in wins. What makes SGA better than the guy better at everything (MEASURABLE) than him?
How many yrs for u in the league?
@@jonhenrychris6973 I’m only two fewer seasons averaging 20ppg than Gil (and I think I’m tied with McCants) 🤣🤣🤣
They really Hate European Superstars.
nah he didnt have the same energy when Dirk played. He hates Slavs just like the American media hates the Russians.
Is Luka not from Europe ?
@@TacticalSteezif Luka was black they would say he’s the mvp. Bro is putting historic numbers. They hate jokic because he’s gonna win his 3rd mvp and they don’t want that.
@@purplesky4157 he wanted jokic to win multiple years he won 😂 so now he hates them because he’s coasting?
Don't be Perkins. lol Jokic is fucking killing it my lord.
Jokic goes to the bench with a 10 point lead. By the time he comes back in the game Denver is barely in the lead or trailing. Then Jokic does his magic and back to the domination again. Easy MVP!
@@dusttaker Yeah I’m not sure why they keep doing this, but it’s starting to feel like a racism.
Put Jokic 5th...
Glad they don't get to vote
I just know bruh finna say sum bs before i even watch😂
Gil's blackness is insecure of Jokic 😂😂😂
Wait so Jokic MVP bad because his team was 5th first time he got it. SGA good for being 4th. Gil something doesnt add up.
Jokic is MVP to me, but the top 3 teams are all within 1 win of each other, lol
I’m glad these folks don’t vote for MVP.
By the way, KAT has played more games than Jamal Murray
He’s literally carrying the nuggets while Murray is out all the time. That’s not valuable? Big head Gil
With MPJ and Aaron Gordon. SGA and Luka doesn't even come close to having a the same supporting cast. What's so hard to understand?
@@jamjam9564 bro forgot about chet, and jdub for shai. Luka has Kyrie and post all star break they started playing pj washington and pj gafford and they been cooking. Lets not do that.
Nuggets are 13-10 without jamal murray...
Nuggets are 2-1 without jokic this year (all road games)....
I'm sorry, it's not Jokic. Luka's stats are WAY more impressive, and the mavs (although they are 5th in standings) are only 6 games behind the nuggets.
SGA deserves it more (better stats, same record, less help). Luka deserves it more (way better stats, not that different record). Jason Tatum deserves it more (way better record, close stats and better defender). Even Anthony Edwards deserves it more (similar stats, MUCH better defender, much more valuable to team, same record and might end up first even with so many games that Kat missed).
I love the joker, but he's not even trying to win MVP this season.
@@jamjam9564are u retarded my guy?😂 Luka has kyrie and sga has Jalen Williams .. WTH are u talking about 😂😂😂😂
@@madderz952 you realize that’s still above 500 right? N jokic didn’t play in all those games buddy. N in the games he played, have you seen his numbers? There’s no debate. The nuggets are the first seed bc of that man, stop it boy
It’s lukas award he’s had a legendary season
Lmao most valuable to winning... Mans ain't contributing to the Ws
@@Casually_Himstop it bruh
Cap 5th in west
@@bryansmith8356 Good enough.
@Iceburg_OG He’ll end the season with more wins than either of Jokic’s MVP seasons
Luka should be mvp before jokic
Check out the VORP numbers: Jokic is 1st with 10.2. 2nd, 3rd and 4th are Luka with 7.7, Giannis with 7.0 and Shai with 6.8. I'm sorry but Jokic is on a level above the rest of the pack, a full 2.5 points ahead of the rest. Thats a huge gap considering only 100 NBA players are above 0. Take any advanced stat PER, WS/48. BPM Jokic is 1st in all of them. He deserves the MVP. Question is whether y'all wanna give him the award.
My top 10 MVP candidates: Antetokounmpo, Brunson, Davis, Doncic, Durant, Edwards, Gilgeous-Alexander, Jokic, Sabonis, Tatum. Any of them could win and I would be happy.
Naw Davis has turned it up on offense this season
Some of these dudes takes makes yu think do they watch da games or just don’t wanna give props… they got pics
Y’all don’t do any research. Y’all just come on here and say what y’all think based on who y’all like.
Defensive Rating:
Jokic 4th
SGA 13th
Defensive Win Shares:
Joker 17th
SGA 16th
Defensive team rating:
Nuggets 8th
Thunder 9th
Rebounds:
Joker 12.4
SGA 5.5
Steals:
Joker 1.3
SGA 2.1
Blocks:
Joker 0.9
SGA 0.9
Y’all can stop with this whole SGA is the only person who plays defense narrative. Your whole narrative is based on him averaging one more steal per game? You can’t be serious
One day some of y’all will realize that nobody on this panel actually watch games. They’re all narrative guys.
You known you old when you remember redtube 😭😂
Facts
What a blessing and enlightment I have every time I hear and watch gil talking 😂😂
We all have to be grateful for gil "wisdom and intelligence"😂😂
Denver in 1st place tho.
If you get to draft between Jokic and SGA right now, there’s no way you taking SGA. 🤥🤥🤥
There is alot of players i would pick over SGA like Anthony Edwards or Luka.
Kobe the MvP #24 long live Mamba 🐍
I look at his podcast as educational, he is showing us everything we should not be...tnx Gil you are awesome teacher, kids pay attention and listen to this guy closely and dont forget to do everything opposite
The fact that lebron is still brought up in these MVP convos is crazy, man is built different
Jokic went on a 15 game stretch of 25/11/9 on 71/50/90 shooting. As a CENTER!? That is UNIMAGINABLE‼️ It's never been done and never will be done again..as a CENTER!
They wilding on the arena . Firstbthe backpage now the redtube 😂😂😂
I agree with the panel. Shai is averaging 30 and leading the league in steals, leading a young team that had controversy to the best record in the west
Jokic is averaging 26, 9, and 12 shooting above 55% from the field.
And okc doesn't have the best record in the west
MVP shuld be who’s doin the most with the least amount of help while winning and getting buckets SGA wuld b my vote this year..
You can tell Gil don't watch much Denver games 😅. Much respect to Luka and Shai, but Joker is on another level and has proven it on the highest stage
when was this filmed?
As longs as it’s a “brother” they’ll say him 😂
It’s Luka’s award
@@SemperityyJokic for me. Wouldn’t be mad if Luka wins it’s between them
@@Galatasaray71 Agreed
Jokic is top 10 in points, rebounds, and assists. Only player to do that. Gil said they have to factor in the team but Jokic makes his teammates much better. That is what being valuable is all about.
SGA not finishing the season strong will definitely push him behind Joker and Luca as they continue to dominate.
Fingeroll from the 3pt is wild asf
Shai Alexander should be the MVP. No one thought the Thunder would be this good.
I don't think a lot of people watched this video all the way through. Watch it. The last point of conversation is hilarious.😂😂😂
Luka
Luka is MVP, any baller knows it, any fan knows it, and all the GMs know it.
"Ma fren i sorry" 😂
Jokic stats this year - 26.4, 12.4, 9 assist, 57% FG
This is not normal basketball
Shai - 30, 5.5, 6.3 assist, 54% FG.
great but Jokic has more rebounds, assist and FG% with 26.4 points
The end got me weak 😂😂😂😂
Nigga said redtube 😂
They are 1st in the conference. There a great team because joker is a great leader. He can do everthing and does it every night
How does anythony edwards get zero condsideration?
MVP, DPOY, ROY… should be voted every months to avoid end of the season bias and media narratives.
At the end of the year you do the math a and the best players win.
Also, if a player is hurt for a month he won t be voted that month. And that will pénalise him at the end of the year when cumulating points.
Jalen Brunson carried his team to the second seed with half the team injured and no other star on the entire squad. 29 & 7
Sometime, I think I’m listening to Skip bayless when gil talk
Gil says SGA is only one playing defense.. rebounds is a defensive stat. Jokic is 13th in league in steals and 6th in deflections per game.
Redtube is crazy 😂😂
Yall all called Ant the New Face of the League…. No MVP votes 🤔🤦🏾♂️
Maxey and Oubre been playing well for Philly and they definitely were when Embiid was playing early this season. The talk was the 76ers are better now with out harden
I think it's real close between Jokic, Luka, SGA they each have their own arguments worthy of MVP. Jokic the favorite to win it his numbers are crazy and his team is first in West now I think. Luka numbers are arguably the best of the 3 and Mavs are like 4-5th. SGA numbers are very good, he carried his young team to 1st for a portion of the season but now they're 2nd or 3rd and he's top 10 in defense. Whichever wins it the rest will be robbed it is what it is only 1 can win it they better not do no tie. I would like SGA to win it because of how young his team is with their record also because of his defense
SGA should be MVP if you see who’s actually the most valuable to their team
That was a good sign at the end. I know when I focus on what I need to and don’t watch Corn then, things do seem to workout better for me!! IJS!! 💯🏆🤑👊🏾
Redtube and wurk T.shirt right in front of Lexi is wild 😂
How
The fact that Giannis has the 2nd best record in the east 7th in the entire nba and is avg 31/12/7 and is shooting 61% from the field and didn’t get mentioned is insane bro rite now the mvp race should be shai luka joker Giannis Tatum
Joker is like the only big man they see
What’s crazy is everything Gil said about jokic could be applied to joker. 1. Jokic hasn’t played with no all stars 2. Jamal Murray missed 20 plus games this year. 3. Sga is averaging less points this year then last year but the team is interestingly better then last year in standings.
Cause guess what he got better team mates. Sga got a top 5-10 center this year and Jalen Williams progress to a 20 pt scorer. For those saying Sga is averaging more assists it’s cause they are limiting giddy meaning he has had to take on more point guard duty. Sga didn’t really got better, it’s his team. His team mates are more due to their standing then Sga
“Cliff note me” was outta pocket😂🤣
If we’re being honest Joker’s 2nd MVP, should’ve been Embiid’s and Embiid’s actual MVP should’ve been Jokic’s.
Dude said red tube 😂.
Skill also matters. And SGA is simply not in the same tier as Luka, Jokic, healthy Embiid or Giannis. His stats last year are not less spectacular than this year and the ascension of OKC has more to do with the improvement of Jalen, Chet and the team as a whole than with SGA's overall impact. Gil's hating HARD
It's gonna be so fucking satisfying when THEY win their 2nd ring
Many haters of the Caucasian brothers in here lol
That 3 point line layup by luka was dumb..!!!
NBA: All right, Gill. The big question is, "does he like you?" All right? Because if he doesn't like you, this is all a moo point.
Gill: Huh. A moo point?
NBA: Yeah, it's like a cow's opinion. It just doesn't matter. It's moo.
SGA
Luka
Jokic
😭😭😭😭
Jokic
Luka
Sga
Subtract 1% from every stat for every game every player misses. 20 missed games subtract 20% off of their stats now tell me who exactly is the MVP . you gotta be on the court…AVAILABLE!
Did this man really expose his power level with the redtube shout-out? 😂😂😂
The arguments made make sense - Shai is basically carrying a bunch of nobodies to the top seed. Taytum has Brown, Luka has Kyrie, Jokic has a good veteran group around him.
Some of y’all make it blatantly obvious you don’t actually watch any of these teams play on a regular basis. Saying that Jaylen, Williams, and Chet Holmgren are a bunch of nobodies is a brain dead take. Jalen Williams is better right now than every shooting guard in the Western Conference not named Anthony Edwards, Paul, George or Kyrie Irving
@@RightStickRob "bunch of nobodies" = not all stars
@@skatchannel2024 Jalen and Chet will undoubtedly be all stars and they’re already playing at a very high-level. They’re both already top 50 players. That is not a nobody. That’s like saying Derrick Whiteis a nobody. he’s a major contributor to the team. That’s like saying Jamal Murray is a nobody. it’s like saying Victor Wembanyama is a nobody. You see how not being an all-star does not make you a nobody
SGA is 1st team all nba. He did this exact shit last year. They have Chet playing this year and now look at that team. SGA does have a great 2nd & 3rd player on his team
Idk who said AI shit for SGA but that is not even close to a fair comparison 💀SGA has a wayyyy better team than AI like he got JDub, Chet, Isaiah Joe, Cason Wallace, the weirdo like he has a GREAT team and AI had a few below average roster so let’s not say “some AI shit” like SGA is carrying scrubs
gil asking which stat like all the advanced stats dont scream jokic value over replacemnt box plus mines etc
26/12/9 is normal basketball. The hate is absolutely absurd
Y’all call it hating but he’s right. Luka and SGA have the better stats and either one deserves MVP. No discredit to Jokic but he’s right.
Jokic played 75 games this season. Sga 71, Luka 67.
Denver > Dallas > Okc post season strength
All the nerds calling Gil Xenophobic. His top 3 picks are non US.. stoopid
he is xenophobic and racist but he hates Jokic the most so he will put anybody in front of him
He is just disguising
Embiid is African, Giannis is Euro/African, Luka is Euro, Shai is Canadian. If he was vouching for Tatum, Antman, Steph or Lebron I would understand.
His argument is flawed from the start; experience doesn't equal success, talent does. Okc is a talented team that plays together and everyone fills a role. Same with Denver that's why they're successful.
This might be the most insane video I’ve ever watched lol.