Are You Stuck In The 'Good Girl' Trap? | Elise Loehnen
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- Опубликовано: 24 мар 2024
- Is trying to be “good” and perfect all the time holding you back? In this MarieTV, Elise Loehnen rejects cultural rules that tell women to stay small, keep their heads down, and be “good.” She shows you how to escape the toxic limiting beliefs and rise to greatness.
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09:50 - Why so many women don’t know what they want
14:14 - 2 surprising ways women have outperformed men for centuries
20:37 - How the “morality police” hold women back
25:02 - Why women put everyone else first
38:09 - The trick to making it in a “man’s world”
47:01 - How to escape the “good girl” trap
56:29 - Would you sacrifice 10 years of your life for THIS!?
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I am from India 🇮🇳 and Indian society is a patriarchal society. I didn't knew that women in USA are also dealing with such societal pressures and challenges. It's great to see women are discussing about these difficulties in West as well as in India. This video is really an eye-opener for me. Keep going Marie 👍
I am from India 🇮🇳 and Indian society is a patriarchal society. I didn't knew that women in USA are also dealing with societal pressures and challenges. It's great to see women are discussing about these difficulties in West as well as in India. This video is really an eye-opener for me. Keep going Marie 👍
We're so honored to have you here. Thank you for sharing your perspective, watching with us, and adding to this powerful discussion. ❤
Unfortunately it’s everywhere my love … but do not fear we are committed to changing it. And we WILL overcome if not in our generation then we will help the future ones rise m our shoulders to get it done. 💪🏾
As an Indian, we have twice the problem as the Americans - a rogue Patriarchy and a rogue Matriarchy secretly shaking hands over the sanity and welfare of their descendants.
I speak as someone who only woke up to this in my mid-forties... After a lifetime of pushing back against both.
Elise is such a beautiful woman inside and out. I loved this conversation which has given me so much to think about. As a health coach primarily for women in peri-menopause and menopause, one of the most important aspects I focus on is teaching them to reclaim their power and love themselves more.
We're so thrilled you loved this episode! We appreciate you watching and we're sending you tons of love. Keep up the amazing work, too! 😘
This was a HIGHLY impactful conversation for me. The level of awareness it has brought about for me is AMAZING! …I am in a corporate setting in my day job and it is VERY much a boys club and heavily male dominated industry I see men somehow fail upwards and the women including myself all the things I need to do in order to be qualified for leadership and 2024 i had a light bulb moment that I have nothing else to prove and the stats in this show and this conversation confirmed it for me. Thank you 😊… I feel like women are having a moment right now and for once it’s not the moment that we’re being TOLD to have .., I think we’re starting to get at a deep level just how much we have been lied to about ourselves. Thanks Marie for bringing this to light.
We're honored that you felt so impacted by this conversation, Abigail. Women are ALWAYS having a moment ;) Keep shining your light and being exactly who you're meant to be in the world. Here's to more conversations like this in the world.
Wow! ❤ this topic is so needed! I wish more women supported each other. Also the "the good girl" syndrome is so toxic, yet most women still try to be the good girls and envy others who are brave enough to step outside the box. But also the expectations from men is still that women should not be as powerful but instead stay small. I also feel this from men and from women as well since i started my own small business that they cannot accept this whole image of me "being the entrepreneur" or businesswoman. They still think that it would be better if i worked at an office job. It's tough. You are your own biggest cheerleader in life.
Beautifully articulated. And you're so right - it can be really hard to shed those expectations in any role we choose, especially that of an entrepreneur or anything in a male-dominated field. We appreciate your perspective and you sharing with us 💖 Sending you tons of love and support!
I am really shocked to know women in USA are dealing with the such issues. In Indian women are exprected to live following the orthodox societal norms. The women have to give up their dreams and succumb to pressure of society
Let's start with I'm blown away by this conversation, as so many of your discussions Marie! There's so much to unpack. I'm going to rewatch it and do some journaling. As a woman born in 1960, the subject of conditioning around "being happy with whatever you get in life" literally struck at my heart. I've done a lot of healing and personal development over decades but there's always more to reflect on, release, heal and Reprogram. Thank you both for this deep, thoughtful and important conversation especially right now when in the U.S. Women's Freedom and Rights are being weaponized and threatened by politics!💙🌊💯
Couldn't have said this better ourselves. We're so happy you're here, watching with us, and honored you shared your wisdom. Sending you tons of love and support as you continue to move forward (and heal). In solidarity! 💪
@@TeamForleo Thank you for the thoughtful note and seeing me. You're the BEST!😽💓
Thank you so much for having Elise on your show. This was brilliant and so needed for all women.
Thank YOU for being here and leaving such a lovely comment, Nancy. We're so happy you watched and resonated with this interview! Sending you tons of love. ❤
The book is amazing!! The perspectives from a historical standpoint is so interesting.
We're so glad to hear it! Thank you so much for being here and leaving such a lovely comment. ❤
I'm a few days late, but wow that was a great conversation with Elise that had me taking notes!! I agree the "good girl" trap is toxic, and I hope we can start moving away from the all or nothing mindset. There's enough for everyone! Looking forward to more of these conversations! ♥
There IS enough for everyone! Thank you for watching, Stephanie. We're so glad that this conversation resonated with you.
I was just thinking about my Lauren Conrad beauty books the other day. Love the synchronicity here between it and the closing remarks on “good” and “bad” habits with our appearance.
We're thrilled this episode resonated with you! We always love a little synchronicity, too ✨
This video is so great. Thank you to both of you for speaking it up!
Thank YOU for being here. We appreciate your kind words and share! Sending you tons of love - ❤
I follow you but THIS one is the BEST! How interesting in ALL THE WAYS!! I have ordered the book and will read avidly!
BAAAAAAH we're so happy to hear that, Elena! Thank you for being here, for being such a lovely member of our community, and for sharing. Let us know what you think of the book 💃
From the bottom of my heart: Thank you for this wonderful episode! ❤
Thank you for having Elise on the show. I discovered her through GOOP and have been impressed by her intelligence and communication skills. It was a brilliant conversation. I will read both your books !
CAROLINE! Thank you! You're so sweet. We're thrilled this episode resonated with you. Let us know what you think - we can't wait for you to read both! 💃🍊
So much great stuff in this show. Thank you both!
Ahhhhh, we're so happy to have you here, Lesley ❤
Thank you so much for this conversation. We need more of this type of conversations to become the norm. Also we need to share them with other women to empower all women to live the lives they deserve without being hold back by society or others in their lives. I shared already this video with all my female friends. Thank you Marie and Elise for this revelatory interview!
Yes! Louder for the people in the back! 📢 We're so happy you're here and so grateful for the shares. And you're absolutely right - let's make topics like this a regular occurrence! 💪
Mind blown! Thank you for sharing yourselves in this way*
Thank YOU for watching with us! We're honored you're here. ❤
What a beautiful conversation ❤
I loved this! So much information. Very thought provoking. Great o have so much study references to check out too. Fab job!
We're thrilled to hear it! Thank you for being here and sharing your positivity with us 🤓
Eye opening conversation! Thanks for sharing your perspectives!
Thank YOU for being here and watching with us. We're all learning together. 💖
NAILED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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this is an awakening podcast! so much truth.
We're so honored to hear that, Lucy. Thank you for watching and for being here with us ❤
Interesting conversation. Many points to reflect.
We appreciate you watching with us and your sweet comment! Thank you for being here, Aline 😊
WOW!!! This conversation totally hit home... Thank you, thank you, thank you! Can't wait to read the book - AND share it with my friends!🙏🏼❤
We can't wait either, Maria! Let us know what you think. We're thrilled you're here. ❤
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one of the best talks, thank you for the inspiration! ❤🔥
You're so welcome! We're thrilled to have you here. ❤
Really appreciated the discussion and so many life stories to unpack here. Got the book and excited to dig deeper!
Let us know what you think, Elle. Sending you tons of love! Happy reading! 📖
I stopped in my tracks, because I am knee deep into reading the book "Maybe you should talk to someone." I read that passage about envy and I remember thinking that was so profound. I literally got the book a few months ago, by chance because a neighbor moved and left a stack of books she didn't want. This channel is total Gold!!!🙌🌹💞
Your comment made our DAY, Lana. We're absolutely thrilled you're here, and we can't wait to see what other connections are in store for you. Thank you so much for sharing your light and spirit ❤
@@TeamForleo Thank you!🙏💞
Thank you! Brilliant women!
OMG SO GOOD. Just shared this episode and the book with a half a dozen women I know and love -- I have a feeling this one is going on my bookshelf right next to Daring Greatly, Untamed, Big Magic, and, of course, Everything Is Figureoutable ;)
We're so thrilled to hear it, Lynette! Let us know what you think of Elise's book. We're so excited for you to read it. Thank you for sharing your spirit and positivity with us ✨
Its mainly eomen who bring down other women. Its nuts but thats how its been for a long time. So good to hear such talks. Keep it coming 🎉
We appreciate you sharing so candidly with us, Sashi. 😊 Sending you tons of support and love.
Nobody should have sad guacamole... that's the saddest of sads. Appreciated this chat and sharing with our network.
🥑We totally agree. Thank you for the share and for being here ❤
I loved this episode. I'm getting the book but.... Since I am a singer and vocal coach that had problems with straining my voice and part of it was how I was speaking I ask both Marie and Elise to listen to where they're speaking. So much of it is "in the gutter." A term I use for women to stop speaking so low that it is just guttural. An example was the beginning piece by Elise. Again I loved the content and need to read this book asap. Just want both wonderful women to check this out.
Same here. I’m getting the book & I’m hooked! Being a southern person, I like everything fried but my hair & the voice. Oh my, the creaky voice among some of my favorite female & male podcasters seems popular these days that I almost have to up the dose of my ADHD meds to fully reap the benefits of their vitalizing content even more than I already do. Don’t mind me. Keep that restorative content coming.
Thank you so much for sharing, Marquita! We always appreciate our community looking out for us 😊 And let us know what you think of Elise's book. We can't wait for you to read it.
@@MP-sz8vm Southern fried voice or hair...oh no!
I think most podcasters aren't aware of going to the fry when they talk. . Also when we are around someone else that does the fry we tend to do it too if we aren't careful.
Thanks for commenting on my comment @MP-sz8vm.
@@TeamForleoThanks @TeamForleo. It is so important to hear the gems that both Marie and Elise have to share. When we are talking about subjects that make us tense or we've been tired our voices can go down to a guttural sound like Elise's did from the get go. This was a sensitive subject for both of them. So appreciate Marie. I am retaking B-school again and learning things I missed the first time. Thanks
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Wow! I absolutely loved this episode and I can already tell I'll be recommending it in upcoming conversations. I was waiting for them to address LUST but I guess I'll have to read the book for that one. 😊❤
The book is AMAZING and worth the read.
This wrecked my heart. Top notch conversation.
Wrecked is exactly how I felt too*
❤We're SO honored you're here, Kara. Thank you for watching and sharing your own heart with us.
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I'm listening again to this. There's so much to consider here. And I do have conversations with my friends about certain tops in this episode, and how much is expected AKA being wonder woman. I have looked back at a chap I follow, and noticed that ALL his guests and videos are MEN! And I didn't even consider that!
I have been reading a book related to religion - Alan Wilson / Baram Blackett, and it's related to Jesus as a real person, and there is historical evidences that he had a wife and child. All of that history is hidden by C.C. going back to 400's as touched on by Elise.
We're thrilled you're back for another round ❤❤
I hung onto every word. Oh, and I'm an Enneagram 3 as well! And I love to dance. Do 3's have an affinity for dance??
🥲 We're so honored to hear it, Nicole! And they must 💃🕺
Marie, why do you have an ipad there? What is it for?
Not true, Huberman DOES interview quite a few female doctors from Sara Gottfried to Becky Kennedy to Kay Tye- all doctors. Do your research and don’t let your envy blind you.
I'm going to do that thing - that's "This is me" thing. But "I don't compare to anyone!!" 😂
👩⚖Women bring ourselves down by putting down the achievements of other women. And this was my WORLD as a top hornist, a female brass player in a world in which we're supposed to be humble and perfect but not powerful. And I saw so much catty, ugly behavior from women in this field. I was sensitive, and I reacted. In fact, I left the field.
As a composer, I've been world renowned and yet invisible - and all female composers have been invisible! We all think there's no one else. Silly! There are as many female composers as male composers! We remain behind a shroud. 🙄
May you and everyone woman composer be SEEN and CELEBRATED for your contributions to the musical world. We certainly see you, Lydia, and hope that your power is celebrated more and more each day. We're cheering you on. 💖
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I don't agree that men see it as an endless river of resources. My experience has been that they view it as finite and that if you get what you want then you are taking from them. Even if it has nothing to do with what they are doing. And that is not acceptable.
This is a foreign perspective to me. Women do this to themselves. (And honestly, not just us, women. People. People do this to themselves.) It's all our individual choices that make us who we are and what we do. It's all up to us.
What does she mean by “recovering catholic” ? 🤔
“I was having one of those days that was full of information for me.”
Biblical list of all the “deviant qualities” that other women will disown and disavow other women.
Men are not governed by the “morality police”.
Pride: don’t be too visible because then you will get knocked down.
"Men are not policing themselves about their goodness. Men are programmed for power and women are programmed for goodness and we wear our goodness like a shield."
Louder for the people in the back! 📢