Glorious Eggroll, apparently, created Nobarra for his father to use. From what I've read his goal was to have a simple OS that former Windows users would be comfortable switching over to and gaming on. Obviously the gaming functionality was added for his own, personal, interests. I'm curious if Nobarra can function similar to Mint, inasmuch as it would be a good distro for beginners to Linux. With Windows wanting to move to a yearly subsctiption model and increasing telemetry, advertising and such, I don't see many people having much choice since all that will bog the OS down, probably tank performance, require users to always be online, etc. I'm not a "This is the year of Linux!!" guy, but something needs to replace Windows and MacOS has the same problems. Linux is going to be the only free alternative by default.
Very well-said. I really feel like they could make this more beginner friendly. I still somewhat consider myself a Linux beginner and I feel like Nobara is getting there, by switching the Official version to KDE which can more compete with windows. I agree that people probably feel there is no more choice to avoid Telemetry Tyranny!
Been a lifelong Windows user that mostly uses the PC for gaming, music, movies and browsing. I won't be switching to Linux yet, but I've tried Nobara for the first time a few months ago, being impressed by DXVK on windows, and I'm blown away by it. The amount of effort that has gone in by all the people involved is incomprehensible! I still have some issues with Nobara specifically, such as a setting for audio sample rate and bit depth missing (I don't even know what it is running at), latency in gaming feeling higher at times than windows, the OS not being as snappy as my tweaked windows, certain apps I love on windows such as foobar and MPC media player with madvr not being available and a general need to study how linux works in order to fix a few quirks. My guess is that most of these will probably be adressed in some capacity by future updates and I cannot wait for it! I'll likely always have a windows os somewhere on my pc but I'm excited to use it less and less for obvious reasons...
Heck yeah man thank you so much for commenting. Linux definitely has its audio issues, as that’s my profession and background. I feel like once they perfect everything with Wayland and audio, it would be the perfect operating system for me in every way.
Hey one thing I learned today (I’m trying kde for the first time) is that to make the OS feel more snappy, you have to find the setting for animation speed and set that to one tick below “instant”. (I still like the fast animations because it’s cool). But yeah the default animation speed makes everything feel sluggish. Once I changed that, the desktop feels snappy and usable.
@@onred_ Thanks for the input! I have tried that in MacOS, since it's a Slow, overly-animated OS, in my opinion. I haven't tried that in any Linux distro, but I love this idea and will give it a shot. Thank you!
@@RandyHanleyawesome, I hope it can improve your experience! I also did something to make my log-in screen (sddm) higher refresh rate, but that’s only because randr thinks my monitor’s default refresh rate is 60, when I can actually do 165… so it doesn’t apply to everyone. It involves tweaking a file and inserting an xrandr command though. Really wish some of these defaults were a little more smart to, say, apply the desktop’s settings automatically or something. Look and feel is super important to me
I have also hard time to decide which distro to use daily :) KDE is a given choice but I jump between Manjaro Nobara and KDE Neon... and Garuda. So far Manjaro was my long runner. Working now on Garuda but there is some small problems...
Hi. I tested Nobara-39-KDE-Nvidia-2023-12-24 version on my Lenovo Legion Slim 5 (7840HS, Radeon 780M, RTX4060, 96GB RAM). Firstly the GPU switching seems broken, the integrated mode consumes 22-24W, which is similar to Kubuntu, when i have proprietary Nvidia installed and force integrated with EnvyControl. In Kubuntu and Fedora, EnvyControl can only power off Nouveau Nvidia. So the Supergfx switcher in Nobara 39 does not work (same story in Fedora 39 and EnvyControl with proprietary Nvidia). 2'th the Chromium Browser takes 20-30 sec to load up and the clicks often don't react in the UI. 3'rd Nvidia 4060 and Wayland have a lot of visual glitches in system try area.
Thank you for that info! I have also had a lot of bad luck when trying to get my Nvidia desktop to work with it so you are not alone. I would basically update the drivers and then it would reboot and just lock up. I really want to try out an AMD system eventually, but I don’t have any Radeon systems at the moment.
Uh yeah. So Chromium doesn't support Google sync. Google's API keys are not there. The settings menu text is a bit misleading, but there's nothing about Google in Chromium.
That is good to hear! I will give chromium a try again on my machine because I’m super paranoid about sinking to Google in certain times. Thanks for your input.
@@RandyHanley That's actually Kubuntu. Neon has the latest KDE Plasma. For it on Kubuntu you need to enable backports. Neon is based on Ubuntu LTS. Currently 22.04.
As someone who runs both kubuntu and nobara on my gaming rig, i dont have much issue between the two and (which i dont care for animations) i notice on kubuntu when you click something to open and it pops up the little icon next to your cursor it doesnt move, but on nobara/arch/tumbleweed etc it bounces around
will say despite all the hate towards ubuntu, kubuntu is very good and the only version of ubuntu i would install on machines, plus running ubuntu servers so like to have some untu installed somewhere @@RandyHanley
Gnome might be a good desktop, but for me it's just WAAAAAY too annoying, irritating even. The only reason I tolerate it in Chimera os is because I used to use Holoiso for the Steam game mode feature, but Holoiso is pretty much abandoned now, and until Steam finally releases the Steam OS for regular desktop PCs, Chimera is the closest to the Steam Deck experience. Plus Chimera OS is ridiculously good for gaming, like the best there is, and I've used Ubuntu, PopOS!, Mint, Manjaro, Debian and even Nobara in the past, and they're all ok, but Chimera OS just gives that install and play option without tweak this or that, while functioning perfectly
i like gnome but so much of its customization is from mods, and they either break, have glitches or dont update. its nice to have a much more stable system to customize but i will miss work spaces
KDE offers many functions that complete the purpose of Nobara with is to provide a good gaming experience with less hustle.
Glorious Eggroll, apparently, created Nobarra for his father to use. From what I've read his goal was to have a simple OS that former Windows users would be comfortable switching over to and gaming on. Obviously the gaming functionality was added for his own, personal, interests.
I'm curious if Nobarra can function similar to Mint, inasmuch as it would be a good distro for beginners to Linux. With Windows wanting to move to a yearly subsctiption model and increasing telemetry, advertising and such, I don't see many people having much choice since all that will bog the OS down, probably tank performance, require users to always be online, etc. I'm not a "This is the year of Linux!!" guy, but something needs to replace Windows and MacOS has the same problems. Linux is going to be the only free alternative by default.
Very well-said. I really feel like they could make this more beginner friendly. I still somewhat consider myself a Linux beginner and I feel like Nobara is getting there, by switching the Official version to KDE which can more compete with windows. I agree that people probably feel there is no more choice to avoid Telemetry Tyranny!
@@RandyHanley Yeah, a youtuber said so yes :)
Nobara 39 KDE what a great job over all
Agreed and Thank you for commenting!
Been a lifelong Windows user that mostly uses the PC for gaming, music, movies and browsing. I won't be switching to Linux yet, but I've tried Nobara for the first time a few months ago, being impressed by DXVK on windows, and I'm blown away by it. The amount of effort that has gone in by all the people involved is incomprehensible! I still have some issues with Nobara specifically, such as a setting for audio sample rate and bit depth missing (I don't even know what it is running at), latency in gaming feeling higher at times than windows, the OS not being as snappy as my tweaked windows, certain apps I love on windows such as foobar and MPC media player with madvr not being available and a general need to study how linux works in order to fix a few quirks. My guess is that most of these will probably be adressed in some capacity by future updates and I cannot wait for it! I'll likely always have a windows os somewhere on my pc but I'm excited to use it less and less for obvious reasons...
Heck yeah man thank you so much for commenting. Linux definitely has its audio issues, as that’s my profession and background. I feel like once they perfect everything with Wayland and audio, it would be the perfect operating system for me in every way.
Very good point as well. I will also always have a windows PC handy lol.
Hey one thing I learned today (I’m trying kde for the first time) is that to make the OS feel more snappy, you have to find the setting for animation speed and set that to one tick below “instant”. (I still like the fast animations because it’s cool). But yeah the default animation speed makes everything feel sluggish. Once I changed that, the desktop feels snappy and usable.
@@onred_ Thanks for the input! I have tried that in MacOS, since it's a Slow, overly-animated OS, in my opinion. I haven't tried that in any Linux distro, but I love this idea and will give it a shot. Thank you!
@@RandyHanleyawesome, I hope it can improve your experience!
I also did something to make my log-in screen (sddm) higher refresh rate, but that’s only because randr thinks my monitor’s default refresh rate is 60, when I can actually do 165… so it doesn’t apply to everyone.
It involves tweaking a file and inserting an xrandr command though. Really wish some of these defaults were a little more smart to, say, apply the desktop’s settings automatically or something.
Look and feel is super important to me
I have also hard time to decide which distro to use daily :) KDE is a given choice but I jump between Manjaro Nobara and KDE Neon... and Garuda. So far Manjaro was my long runner. Working now on Garuda but there is some small problems...
There must be a common pattern, because I like all of those distros that you have mentioned. We like them fast and stable, I would say!
Hi. I tested Nobara-39-KDE-Nvidia-2023-12-24 version on my Lenovo Legion Slim 5 (7840HS, Radeon 780M, RTX4060, 96GB RAM).
Firstly the GPU switching seems broken, the integrated mode consumes 22-24W, which is similar to Kubuntu, when i have proprietary Nvidia installed and force integrated with EnvyControl.
In Kubuntu and Fedora, EnvyControl can only power off Nouveau Nvidia. So the Supergfx switcher in Nobara 39 does not work (same story in Fedora 39 and EnvyControl with proprietary Nvidia).
2'th the Chromium Browser takes 20-30 sec to load up and the clicks often don't react in the UI.
3'rd Nvidia 4060 and Wayland have a lot of visual glitches in system try area.
Thank you for that info! I have also had a lot of bad luck when trying to get my Nvidia desktop to work with it so you are not alone. I would basically update the drivers and then it would reboot and just lock up. I really want to try out an AMD system eventually, but I don’t have any Radeon systems at the moment.
Uh yeah. So Chromium doesn't support Google sync. Google's API keys are not there. The settings menu text is a bit misleading, but there's nothing about Google in Chromium.
That is good to hear! I will give chromium a try again on my machine because I’m super paranoid about sinking to Google in certain times. Thanks for your input.
FWIW, there's a lot of apps built on Chromium: all Electron apps (eg VS Code), Brave, Vivaldi, etc. These are not all tied to Google.
What the hell is wrong with the cursor changes?
Lol very valid question! It’s actually not the distribution but it’s the recording software I am using, Camtasia.
kde is so buggy in Fedora in Nobara. its way better in Kubuntu. so i switch back to it
That’s a good thought because I haven’t tried Kubuntu in years! I definitely will give it a shot. KDE Neon is a good, stable implementation of it.
@@RandyHanley That's actually Kubuntu. Neon has the latest KDE Plasma. For it on Kubuntu you need to enable backports. Neon is based on Ubuntu LTS. Currently 22.04.
As someone who runs both kubuntu and nobara on my gaming rig, i dont have much issue between the two and (which i dont care for animations) i notice on kubuntu when you click something to open and it pops up the little icon next to your cursor it doesnt move, but on nobara/arch/tumbleweed etc it bounces around
will say despite all the hate towards ubuntu, kubuntu is very good and the only version of ubuntu i would install on machines, plus running ubuntu servers so like to have some untu installed somewhere @@RandyHanley
@@DefCantGame very good observation and nice catch. Now that I think about it I know exactly what you’re talking about. That is very interesting.
Gnome might be a good desktop, but for me it's just WAAAAAY too annoying, irritating even. The only reason I tolerate it in Chimera os is because I used to use Holoiso for the Steam game mode feature, but Holoiso is pretty much abandoned now, and until Steam finally releases the Steam OS for regular desktop PCs, Chimera is the closest to the Steam Deck experience. Plus Chimera OS is ridiculously good for gaming, like the best there is, and I've used Ubuntu, PopOS!, Mint, Manjaro, Debian and even Nobara in the past, and they're all ok, but Chimera OS just gives that install and play option without tweak this or that, while functioning perfectly
Thank you for sharing! I've never actually tried Chimera, but is sounds good! I'll check it out.
@RandyHanley I bet you'll like it, it's pretty good
How do you account for the annoying KDE wallet demanding attention? I’ve also had my BT drop in and out. Annoying!
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i like gnome but so much of its customization is from mods, and they either break, have glitches or dont update. its nice to have a much more stable system to customize but i will miss work spaces
Very good points.