The Building of One of the Most Expensive Weapons In History
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- Опубликовано: 3 июл 2024
- In this episode we're talking about the process of building a battleship.
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My grandfather help build the USS North Carolina and USS Iowa at the Brooklyn Navy Yard in the late 30s and early 40s. He was a marine plumber and helped install hundreds of miles of piping and plumbing through out both ships. He also worked on the USS Bon Home Richard and USS Oriskany. His last ship was the USS Constellation in the early 60s. He passed away in 1976 in his late 70s.
I wonder how much of the North Carolina and the New Jersey are basically the same and how much is different. Are the Iowas clean-sheet designs, or scaled up versions of the earlier fast battleships?
I live a few minutes from the USS North Carolina. I highly recommend giving it a visit if you’re ever in the area.
My uncle also helped build the North Carolina. He was an electrician and worked on the wiring in turret # 3.
I would have like to sat down with your grandfather to discuss his experiences helping to construct those magnificent ships. I bet he would have had some interesting stories to tell.
@@josephstevens9888 when my mother was in high school late 1950s she’d walk down to the Navy yard to see him and there would be Forestall or Saratoga in dry dock for a refit. An incredible sight to see. He wasn’t a happy man. He lost my grandmother to cancer when she was 48 years old and every bit of happiness was gone from his life. My mother was only eight years old. I would have loved to have talked about the work he did. Word was he and his company did a lot of work for the Royal Navy during the war and they sent him a number of accommodations. My cousins have them but I’ve never seen them. Only through my mother do I know they exist.
I suspect one of the big reasons of modular construction is to farm out the work to different shops so more work can be done in parallel. (And it also would allow inland states to build ships, making their senators happy.)
With proper industrial methods, if you are going to build two, you might as well build twenty four.
More work off line, less time in dry dock.
Less time in dry dock, more ships at sea.
Well, everybody knows happy senators means funding. Sometimes there's just no good reason not to put a giant factory in the middle of a cornfield.
Because maybe that town needs a factory, something better than the mine, even if that town is located nine hundred miles inland. And if they can build skilled components for shipbuilders in the war effort, all the better.
And - ballisticarc -
Right, because once you've bothered to make thirty, the capacity to produce seventy is as simple as keeping the water flowing. And you'll probably end up with better parts on the final variants...
@@BeingFireRetardant and sometimes senators will take a Russian oligarch off the sanctions list in exchange for not getting an aluminum plant for rural wasteland Kentucky.
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Many years ago I made several work trips to the Hyundai Heavy Industries shipyard in Ulsan, South Korea. At the time and probably still today, it was the largest shipyard in the world and it was the first time for me to see in person how these humongous commerce ships were being built. It was baffling to watch segments the size of large 5+ story apartment buildings being transported from the assembly space to the drydock and then lifted by 10,000t portal cranes.
Ever since that experience, modular shipbuilding seems to be the natural, the only way to build large ships. 😃
LIBERTY ships from New Jersey's era are a perfect example of the modular approach.
This is really unrelated, but I found out some years ago my neighbor (now deceased) growing up had been on Liberty ships.
It was very meaningful to discover my old neighbor was a WW2 veteran, and he held a paygrade (Seaman First Class) that doesn't even exist anymore.
That was some eye-opening perspective for a young PO at the time.
Building the arliegh burkes, they start with a ton of small blocks that get welded into 3 main blocks then wheel them all out together and it looks like a ship. Pretty cool to see in person
The USS New Jersey SSN 796 is not being built in wartime. We aren't replacing ships due to combat losses, so there is no hurry to build it. Also, the Sub is designed to submerge so the hull has to be able to withstand hundreds of psi from water pressure constantly. Then, the ship has a nuclear reactor. You probably don't want them installing that fast. Last, there is all of the testing that has to be done because it is a sub with a reactor and that takes time.
Part of the modularity of the ships makes it possible to remove a module and replace it with a new one when needed, or if the new module has updates, it also makes it easy to add or subtract modules for the ship being built.
Looking at the videos of New Jersey, the crews making updates over the years, had to make the spaces work for the updates, where the new system makes the space removable, and the new modules slide in with the space made for the new use.
Also if a modular peace gets damaged you can cut it out and replace it. Example is the engine room. If it gets hit you can simply cut out the module and replace it with a new one, even building it while the ship is coming to the ship yard. This means you can get her out faster.
See also: Samuel Roberts @@robertschultz6922
The first steel ships were built using the techniques used for wood, as that is the logical progression. Modules only work for steel ships. Welding steel, properly done, is as strong as one piece of steel. You can't assemble wood that way.
Look up the book "The Yard" on the Bath Iron Works, where so many destroyers are built. A bit dated now, but well worth reading.
How to build a battleship, 2023 edition:
You will need -
Wire/sprue cutters
Plastic cement
Razor blades
Masking tape
Paint
Paint brushes
Lots of patience
And a little free time.
Don't forget band aids! You might also want some sprue goo.
No sticky tack, sandpaper, or filler putty?
Needle guns
Amazing the complexity of building a battleship .. remarkable
at some point in the recent past ... the construction of the Nimitz type went from traditional keel up to super-lift modules...The Britsh QEs are modular
If we ever get into another world war, do you think they would build extra long time lead modules like nuclear power plant modules in cause they need to be replaced fast?
One of the reasons I've heard as to why the modular approach is being used more today than in the past is that the ability of CAD/CAM systems has matured so that you can design and build the ship and component modules to be able to fit perfectly when assembling. Given the number of pipes and cables which any modern ship has, having them fit when you put the module together is not a minor consideration.
Lol..getting good transitioning into a commercial!! Love it and hate it all at once!
Museum curator being paid to tell people to take their 401(k) and put it into fractional shares of "Picasso" paintings. What could go wrong? Mr Szimansky cares more about money than he does for the financial stability of the senior citizens that watch is content.
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Great video. I love the history of ship building. Keel first allows for easier changes as building continues. This works great during times of great change as was during Ww2. As far as modern submarines or destroyers when they build dozens In a class modular construction or “super lifts” are better for speed of building.
Keel up. I think it allows for easier open fasting and inspections. Also think if the battleships were built modular, the shell plates and other long important plates would crack like we have seen in newer ships. For each section of welded metal = more weak points on the plate or plane itself. If you cast a big plate then lay it down = less weak or higher tensile strength of a plate. The weld itself might have a very high tensile strength, but if the metal rips at the seams of the weld, no good.
All hail the great Henry J. Kaiser! His modular shipbuilding methods are the modern standard for almost all large ships.
During WW2 they did not use modular for big ships of cruiser or larger size, even though they were building multiple copies. Even the Forrestals of the 1950s were built the traditional way.
Thank you again for the video! Great to see old photos of the inside of the ship open to daylight. I have a question: Not sure if you have ever addressed this question previously Ryan (and team) but why were South Dakota’s built at the same time as the Iowas? Why did they not build more of the modern design Iowa class ships instead?
If you look at lay-down and commissioning dates closely, the SDs were laid down in 1939-40, while the IAs were laid down in 1940-41. The Iowas were a follow-on class, but took less time to design and get started because they used part of the SD design and similar equipment. The Iowas were rushed as the war started due to the usefulness of their high speed. The follow-on class to them, the Montanas, were recognized as unnecessary and stopped in favor of more carriers.
Ryan, can you please do a video on yourself and the rest of the museum crew? Just curious about who, how many, what your backgrounds are.
Tom Scott the older one has a great video he did for Battleship Texas that shows how battleship gun barrels were made and why it took so long to make them.
I am glad the museum is getting sponsors. Get that cheddar!
Better to have lots of labor, mining and smelting, simple domes and older heavier boats because what is really cheap is - the iron ore and energy nowadays. Decentralisation works in case of war when you dont have enough full circle shipyards able to giveaway an entire battleship (which started with Texas class)
That sponsor Segway caught me off guard
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Not knowing much about ship construction, I would go with modular construction because I am likely building multiple battleships in a wartime environment. I would just employ multiple "factories" to produce the modules.
That was one of best segues to a sponsers ad that I've seen in a while.
Crying shame some didn't try to build to build from top down. Would have been a lot fun to watch that.🤣
I guess I'm at the "Old Fart" stage in life but the old keel first method is the best. I don't know anything about shipbuilding but the amount of ships built during WW2, tens of thousands, makes me think those techniques were best.
Interesting. Wes Oleszewski writes in Call to Duty of how Defoe shipping built destroyer escorts upside down. Mainly for welding efficiencies I think.
Not to forget that some PT boats' hulls were built upside down.
It’s easier to weld with it down then overhead
The beard looks good. It suits your personality. Keep it.
The question I have is, are modular construction builds inherently weaker designs, than say a gold plated longspar keel format?
Is one any more particularly seaworthy or damage resistant than another design construct?
Because if so, then maybe the cost of the sturdier hull should merit itself in durability alone.
I think all modern surface ships are likely to be weaker then battleships. Modern warships are barely armoured, and often just plain aren’t armoured. However you build a modern destroyer it will be flimsy in comparison.
Modular construction could be argued to be improved design, since the bulkheads where the modules meet necessarily minimize the number of through-cuts for utilities and thus become natural damage bulkheads. Modular design pays more attention to the pre-planning of the routing of utilities (electrical, steam, plumbing, communications), compared to the traditional method of just cutting a hole wherever the shipfitter feels like it. The question of "weakness" may go back to the issues they had in the 1930s with weld failures, which were mostly solved in the 1940s. Also, modular design inherently leaves better plans behind for those who are refitting or doing damage control, which might make the ship easier to upgrade or repair.
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That was exactly the question, are the bulkhead joints inherently weaker at interface? But then you mentioned the utility throughcuts, which are now pre planned. So there likely is more rigidity in newer designs, even if each hull section is prefabbed, maybe?
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Sun Ship downriver in Chester, PA, too.
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In some very old movies, someone was very rich if they had $100,000. In newer movies, a millionaire was considered rich. Now you must be a multimillionaire to be on their level.
I have strong ties to the shipbuilding industry having families from both Baltimore and Norfolk and I think even though ships and shipbuilding itself is progressing I'm sure for the better (and for the better of the budget) it just seems natural to lay the keel first. They dont make things like they used to and I don't think that means that things or products are being built anywhere near as well as they were.
I have to go with the keel up method for building less time than modular construction also a lot more robust than the modular building method
Building ships by assembling pre-fabricated modules requires a LOT of pre-planning, careful management, and especially, accurate design work, so all the pre-installed fixtures, utilities, as well as the structural components, fit together. For something with as much complexity in the structure as a Battleship or other large warship, without computer modeling and design management, it boggles the mind what it would take to try to keep the issues of dealing with keeping track of inevitable design modifications, and the production plans themselves under control. Let alone the inevitable problems where plans might have been misread (or just wrong) during module construction, and the installed power, light, ventilation, etc systems aren't matching up...
There were large offices with tons of draftsmen laying out on paper all the specs for the battleships (and other ships). It was called "detailed design", compared to the rough designs produced before they ordered them, and sometimes took over a year. Norman Friedman's Battleships book gives some background, along with Warship Builders by Thomas Heinrich. There is a famous "oops" during the Iowa-class detail design where BuOrd and BuShips were working with different diameters for the main turret barbettes. They had to come up with a new, lighter gun to fix that one.
I am genuinely hoping for a Bob Ross-style tutorial
" Happy little Mistakes " . Bob was a Retired Air Force person that became creative . He might have liked an Iowa Project ?
Now guys we’re just gonna place a few happy little bodies quad 40mm mounts here… and here… and maybe a couple more over here just to be safe
Interestingly, while the smaller ships have been going to complete sections "welded together" for a while, the aircraft carriers have been traditionally built for that whole time. It's only with the last 1 or 2 Nimitz-class or the early Ford-class ships that they've started building them in modules, and "welding them together". The big advantage of that method is it allows them to basically fully fit out the ship as it's being assembled, and they can build the sections/modules indoors, in a climate controlled area, so they aren't affected by the weather as they're building them. The weather only comes into play when it comes to assembling two modules, together, due to the crane needed, and wind being a danger.
I tend to think the modular is still the way to go. the lead times aren't dictated like during wartime hey.
I think Ryan would really enjoy playing From the Depths, its been my obsession as of late
Its not a matter of one or the other, its what worked at the time and confidence in that method. Liberty ships went on to have cracking issues. Not what you want a 200 million dollar battleship to undergo. Equally with CAD you can fit things unlike what you had before as well as the methods that are well proven now. Warships should always be solid proven (Zumwalt and or the LTC and Ford all examples of the wrong approach) - Ford should have retired risk with various prototypes tech units that were not built and elevators that did not go through decks being an egregious example of not fitting let alone the elevator tech being undeveloped). There is no way the US could go into WWII with unproven design or methods for Warships. Liberty ships you could. Worst case build more and the losses to cracks were not that much of a risk.
Thank you Ryan and Battleship New Jersey ! speaking of being "gold plated", we have heard you mention this before. Could you do more showing us what and how this "gold plating" is evident on New Jersey? ( maybe like a series of "shorts" and collected videos, as you film other things in those spaces ).
Thanks again!
It is down to the cost of the vessel. Battleships are hugely expensive for what you get and don’t offer value for money. A battleship is equivalent to a Bugatti, you get a lot of bang but it will never win a value for money competition.
Yall should get World of Warships to do a drydock for NJ so you can show the process of a ship being built. Good stuff.
A sponsor for the drydocking... not a bad idea at all 😁👍
@@itsmezed Seems like a Great Idea !!
play it on the ship. it'd be like a mother looking at something her kids made for her.
Keel Up, if its gud enough for Vikings its gud enough for you! I always wondered about Naval Architects and how they were different from Ship Builders and what reasoning, or philosophies went into designing the superstructures, and what was and was not placed within them, rather than keeping most of the ship below the deck like the old Monitor style.
Good post!
Another difference between then and now is building on the ways vs in a floodable area or drydock.
Unless I am mistaken, the first vessels to be built in modular sections were the Liberty ships constructed in the Kaiser yards. The Liberty Ships constructed by traditional shipbuilders were built from the keel up. The two types of construction were of comparable speed; the traditonally constructed Libertys may have been better built. (both the JEREMIAH O'BRIEN and the JOHN W BROWN were traditionally built with a large proportion of rivets rather than welding).
Nazi Germany's formidable Type XXI U-boat was the first submarine to be built in modular sections in a number of different factories and shipped by barge to the final assembly point. Thankfully for the Allies, the Kriegsmarine Type XXI had acute construction problems and only four were in combat service the time of the German surrender.
All or nearly all large ships built in the last 20 years were built in modular sections, so the industry has clearly determined that this construction method is superior.
Modular was being experimented with pre-war, but the war brought on large orders of ships that could best be done modularly. As to speed, the fastest-built Liberty was about 4 days, which was modular. You could not build traditional way that fast. What was really going on, though, was that the modules were built up simultaneously in other parts of the yard and just brought together at the end. You cannot build all parts of the ship simultaneously in the traditional building style.
@@gregorywright4918 The four-day Liberty ship was a Kaiser publicity stunt. I am not an expert on the subject, but from my time as a volunteer aboard the SS JOHN W BROWN, the impression I got was that the actual average speed of construction was about the same for modular and traditional construction. One definite advantage of modular construction was that you did not need nearly as much waterfront space devoted to launching ways.
Battleship New Jersey was built in a hurry for the needs of a war. Submarine New Jersey is intentionally on a slow schedule to stretch out the corporate welfare keeping the shipyards running.
Crane capacity and computer capacity enables modular construction which enables far more complicated systems to run. Manufacturing has gotten better but we shouldn't forget what people did with less effective tools.
Submarines to fight no wars. P.S. Respect to the beard
If they do their job right, there is no war. The first job of the military is to deter war.
Love the content and dedication Ryan. I appreciate the museum needs alot of funding support but can I suggest that you try to feature ads from more reputable companies and try to get sponsorship from products that you enjoy using, or used by the ship? Masterworks is a bit iffy and may not be suited for your audience esp after the established titles fiasco. Honestly talking about a wait list is just insane when we can instantly 'skip the waitlist' especially if masterworks are advertising like there is no tomorrow on youtube. Doesn't sound like what a company with a massive wait list will do.
Henry J Kaiser influenced a lot of changes in shipbuilding.
A very interesting person. He moved mountains. Yet little is remembered of him. About the only thing that survives is the health care system he created for his workers - Kaiser Permanente. (He thinks big, he's not going to partner with someone for that. He had enough workers, he built his own heath care system)
The modular method has definite points in favor of it, like the ease of incorporating a design change specific to something within that module. You just have to ensure the connection point(s) to any adjacent module(s) are still in alignment with the new item.
My concern is that modular construction won't be as robust once battle damage is being taken as those built using the older method for warships of the World War II era.
I believe I will stick with gold and silver
The golden gate Bridge cost $100M to build in 1937 which was as much as just the hull of the USS New Jersey.
How would you calculate the cost of building the New Jersey in modern dollars? When I multiplied the cost of the Standard battleships by inflation I got about $100,000,000. This is much too low, especially since BBs were the apex capital ship then.
I believe there will need to be a renaissance in shipbuilding in the near term. Ever watch a video of a modern ship being built? An absolute army of hardworking Americans descend on our shipyards daily, welders, electricians, pipe fitters, HVAC guys. We need to invest in them now, we need to invest in the yards that perform dry dock deep maintenance to support fleet operations. We aren’t hitting it hard enough and we absolutely need to get back after it.
Unfortunately, all those workers are hideously expensive, compared to the costs of Korean or Chinese workers today. One of the benefits of modern construction is decreased manpower, but it is still the single most expensive part of shipbuilding. That is why most of the big shipbuilding has moved to Asia, driving up the costs of building our Navy ships in the US.
If you think a gun barrel has a long lead time imagine a nuclear reactor. The modular construction is better as long as the supply chain can handle it
12:20 About that claim:
Submarine USS New Jersey (SSN-796) was laid down on 25. March 2019 and launched on 14.4.2022. If this count as build time then it took 1117 days for her to be build.
Battleship USS New Jersey (BB-16) was laid down 3. May 1902 and launched on 10. November 1904. This gives 923 days.
Battleship USS New Jersey (BB-62) was laid down 16. September 1940 and launched on 7. December 1942. This gives 813 days.
Both battleships combined were built in 1736 days.
Its less about laid down to launch than laid down to commissioning, thats when she's truly done. As of this writing, SSN796 is set t be commissioned in 2024.
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I stand corrected. Commision date it is. I actually was not there when the commisioned BB-16, so I have to rely on Wikipedia.
Submarine USS New Jersey (SSN-796) laid down on 25. March 2019, let's say commisioned 31. December 2024. 2109 days.
Battleship USS New Jersey (BB-16) laid down 3. May 1902, commisioned 12. May 1906. 1471 days.
Battleship USS New Jersey (BB-62) was laid down 16. September 1940, commisioned 23. May 1943. This gives 980 days.
Oh wait, this still gives SSN-976 a margin of 342 days. Less than using launch dates but still. Actually They cant take their time with SSN-976 until 7. December 2025 and still be in a lead.
Bout time to dust off them Bofors and 5" @Battleship New Jersey. Get a little 🎈practice.
im saying keel. a solid spine of steel, not torquing box sections. my dad served on a radar picket ship based on a liberty ship. one night it developed a rather large crack at the front of the bridge on the side. he first had to drill out the corners so it wouldnt tear further after the repair. Then he had to weld in the replacement plate. all of this was during high seas. It had to be done though, she might have torn in half. so yeah, i'll stick with a keel :)
If you look at how they build the keel, it is not one piece but rather a series of overlapping pieces. Welding mistakes were made early on as they did not understand all of what was happening or how to detect imperfections, but that was researched through the 1940s and better methods were developed. The big problem with the Liberties is that they were rushed during the war and corners were cut. A number of them had cracks develop in heavy seas.
My personal favorite method of engineering and manufacturing is to just throw something at it and see what happens 🤣
Isn't that whas the Theory of Evolution proposes?
The Germans were building their U Boats in modular sections in WWII.
The only one they tried was the Type XXI, and that was a disaster because they sub-assemblies were built the traditional way and did not match up precisely when joined. The final assembly yard had so many fixes to make that it delayed the lead ships enough to almost miss the war. I think only a couple got to sea and were doing trials at the end.
Modular construction seems like unibody construction in cars not thinking there is the necessary strength in critical areas but I could be wrong.
My next comment,you can't put a specific kind of building technology to a specific place or time period, it all has to do with the ships complexity and use. I've built two sailboats in my lifetime and I would never modulular build. But if I was gonna mass produce, I most definitely would. Just my opinion.and yes I built a 31 footer and a 43. And the smaller was more of a challenge than the bigger .
You can't build a true Iowa class battleship without a lot of riveting if you want the original toughness. If there is no fear that some other country will build a rival ship then welding is fine, but the reason to have a battleship is to have defense's against other battleships. Welded armor looses a great deal of strength due to the welding heat ruining the armor especially in thick slabs like the citadel edges. If you want modular ships just stick with heavy cruzers.
How many rivets in NJ?
it depends on if you're armoring it like Jersey!! modular construction doesn't allow that kind of armoring!
You could to a degree, but in the end you would end up as a sort of hybrid since the armored layers would have to be added after the modules start to come together to avoid stacking all the seams in the same area.
@@NFSgadzooks no modular can't handle the weight! you need the heavy framing to support the armor.
@@keithmoore5306 The heavy framing could be built into a module, but he is right that the armor would have to be overlapped at the module seam to prevent a large vulnerable seam. Most modules are welded, but heavy armor cannot be, so it would have to be bolted on partially and completed after the module join.
@@gregorywright4918 from talking to builders it's either framing or modules you can't do heavy frames in modules due to stress on the connecting points from the framing's weight particularly at the keel area, they say it'd have to be reinforced so much it's easier faster and cheaper just to build with the framing!
@@keithmoore5306 That's strange, since it seems like they build modern carriers in modules, and I think they still have armoring in them - just not at the battleship level. Given how all the big builders are doing modular now, I doubt it is "easier, faster and cheaper" to build the old way. Subs are heavily reinforced to take the pressure of the depths, and they are also built modularly. I think the advantages of modular are putting things into the modules before you complete the framing and bulkheads, building in parallel multiple modules simultaneously, and building them indoors where you don't need to deal with issues of weather. In a sense, the battleship turrets were build "modular" since they were fully built and assembled in the shops, but then due to their weight they had to be partially disassembled to be installed by crane. I think the 1940s was part of the transition from traditional framed to modular, and they were still learning how to get everything right, but since then (particularly since CAD/CAM software lets them pre-plan all the nitty-gritty details) it has been modular almost everywhere due to the above reasons allowing savings in cost and efficiency.
Hmm well building a battleship or battlecruiser takes years and as Vanguard and Hood and the Admiral Class show what happens when war interferes
How many of the 16 inch gunbarrels were produced in total?
Next type will be the top down kind of building 😀
They are using 3D printers to build houses today...
My compliments on transitioning into a sponsor advertisement so smoothly. Well done. Talking about battleship costs and then touching on inflation and then turning right into the financial sponsor like one would tun into a garage after a long day. Nice.
modular now
Oh dear! - a paid promotion within the video.
Right...ads are so annoying. That's why I fast fwd thru them and get back to the good stuff. 😉
@@rogerb3654 Yeah. But the lack of integrity of the curator is the bigger issue.
get that bag
I wish the channel could work without the advertisers. Especially things like Masterworks.
I understand why taking advertisements makes sense and I wish there where better options available to you.
I wonder if someone like Squarespace would be interested. They have sponsored Drach a few times.
You wish this channel wouldn't tell people to transfer money from their 401(k) into fractional shares of a Picasso?
Where was the New Jersey built at
Philadelphia Navy Yard
I have bought alot of steel in my life for work and personal projects. Cheap steel is very expensive, I see a big I-beam on a truck going somewhere I marvel at all the money it cost for that beam. Battleships are made out of an incomprehensible amount of very expensive steel. It is a real shame that we need to spend our metal budget on machines whoes only purpose is sending other masses of steel to the bottom of the ocean.
Since they have a ssn named new Jersey, if for whatever reason they decide to reactivate the battleship New Jersey, what would they do for the two ships that would have the same name???
It is not practical or economic to reactivate the New Jersey today. She would need all new engines for starters, and that is below the armor deck. The Navy probably realized that when they gave the sub the name.
@@gregorywright4918 yes I understand that it would be a huge undertaking for the new Jersey to be brought back, but hypothetically what would happen if any ship that is a museum is brought back with the same name as a ship already in service, in regards to the name???
@@robertschultz6922 I think that an older battleship was "reactivated" as a supply barge but given a different name. Logically they would rename the older ship, perhaps to "The State of New Jersey" or "The Spirit of New Jersey". Coin toss on whether they would return the silver service...
How far do you think the USN would have gotten if they kept on building the USS MONTANA tell the end of WW 2 ???
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I'm curious, does anyone know how many rounds the 16" guns can fire before needing replaced?
290 rounds per barrel for the 16"/50 caliber gun.
@@deadspyder Hey thanks for the reply!
The specific answer to that depends on which gun and what era you are asking about. Different guns had different muzzle velocities and different shell weights, so there was slight differences in the wear level and hence the "recommended" replacement rounds. One early thing they could do to prolong the wear rate was to coat the insides with a chrome layer. Some nations used an insertable/replaceable inner liner in the gun, which could be drilled out and replaced rather than having to make a new gun. As gun tech developed in the 40s through the 60s they found polymers and other coatings they could apply or add to the charges that would coat the rifling and decrease the wear. I think the Iowa guns with the latest coatings were rated for over a thousand rounds per gun before decommissioning.
From one scam advertiser to another.
Modular.
I've just won the contract to build a battleship. Looks like I'll need another wheelbarrow.
Hey Ryan is this another one of your sure things like becoming a Scottish Laird?
The Nimitz Ford class r built Modular, they make the modular section to the size the over head crane can handle. There were two more Iowa class ships in the yard, the war ended and they stop construction. We’re the Iowa guns not used barrels for a battlecruiser two be made in 20, or 30?? The ships canceled so the gun barrels were just laying around?????????? Chad Paddock Naples Florida
The original plan was to use the Lexington class 16" barrels, but due to a mistake between BuOrd and BuShips they got the turret barbette diameter wrong and had to design a new gun to fit in the smaller space. They rushed those guns through and just made it as each ship was completed. The Lexington guns were sent off to be harbor defense guns. The two other Iowas were stopped early in the war when they realized they needed to prioritize carriers and escorts, and at the end the floated out the incomplete hulls to make room for other construction (like the Midways).
And all this to create a ship that was obsolete upon launch.
I read the question as : Why are you the way that you are😄😄
We can't build anything as fast as we did in WW2. today it takes longer to build a mile of roadway then it did to build the empire state building from scratch...
In WWII production went on 24/7. Today it is done in a 40 hour week.
Red tape & regulation.
And for non-governmental agencies there is prevailing wage and MWBE requirements.
7th, 3 February 2023
Does America still have major navy yards? If so, where are they?
Newport News (private) is the sole big yard left for building carriers in the US, and the navy yards are in Norfolk VA, Puget Sound WA, Pearl Harbor HI, and Portsmouth NH (the first three can service carriers). There are some other private yards that build smaller ships and subs.
Sound like it might be an apples to oranges comparison. But the sub is taking way too long.
The quality control in submarine construction comes from needing to X-ray (and other methods) of every weld on the ship and the confined space within a sub that everything has to fit into. Ironically, most Virginia class submarines are completed slightly under budget and the savings add up to be used for later improvements and/or an additional submarine at the end of the production run, for no extra money (as part of the overall program cost)
Wasn't New Jersey one of the quickest built battleships of World War Ii? She was also the longest battleship ever built.
Two years from lay-down to launch, six more months for commissioning. Part of the speed was the war, and part was throwing more men and shifts at the work. Some parts would arrive at the shipyard and be installed the same day.
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You are going to feel really bad if Masterworks doesn’t end up being everything the ad copy says.
Looked really sus
@@scubasky Obvious scam, you would think an intelligent museum curator could spot a scam and not submit his loyal viewers to a chance for obvious fraud. I had no reason to doubt his integrity before today.
It is
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And the next controversial sponsor. I understand you need the money and it is used for a good cause, but is that enough justification to market an investment that is as sure to lose money as it is possible to be without being actually illegal?
At least it is not an actual scam like those before it.
No, honestly, the New Jersey is worth saving no matter what the cost. The ends justify the means. You can move your money from your 401(k) right into fractional fine art ownership. And, the most important thing is you get to skip the waitlist, because Mr Szimansky is a good friend with Masterworks.
That was a bit of a naff segue into an advert.
Shame such beauties are so expensive
I don't know... Cost (according to Ryan) is a few billion. US carriers are going for 13 billion. Subs close to 4 billion. Wouldn't mind having one of these back for supporting amphibious units. Cost 1.5 billion per tomahawk launch. 15k per 16" shell.....The more I write the more it makes sense to bring this platform back!
@@kevinrichards1539 heck I imagine with modern tech we could get newer subsystems that just as reliable require less manpower. With the the designs for sabot rounds we could easily extend her range. Let's bring back battleships.
@@erbmiller Honestly, I am not sure of another way to deliver presision at such a low cost. And agree. Think of all the automation, and man power savings. Certainly not as man intensive as running flight operations......