That is a fake tan. I just find that odd. I know plenty of light skin ndns and they just work with what they have. Just seems like she’s trying to hard. Idk tho ✋🏽👀🤚🏽
I think i know who this is about. I remember reading the post exposing her. I think its strange that this person doesn't even exist on social media anymore.
For some reason people get into there heads that they can identify with being native because they watch or read something about our teachings and Heritage. People like that search for external validation through cultural appropriation because who they are ain’t really enough for them.
This phenomena is so strange to me. I mean, on one hand at least people in America are starting to value native cultures and not just trying to obliterate it. Also, a lot of folks hear some story about “great grandma” who was Shawnee or whatever but wasn’t. Or maybe was and that’s cool - go learn about your people. But even then it can feel strange. My earliest people here in America were Dutch, but I’m not suddenly going to wear ruffed collars and Puritan hats and carry a sword.
so Raven and her adorable sibling I'm guessing are Canadian, some place that doesn't get much sun as she implies in the beginning.....but I guarantee you on her trips to LA she was seen as mexican. If Raven was able to get more sun, she in fact would look hella mexican. Thats your clue, if you dont look mexican, a mestizo (metis) society, you most likely are not indigenous or do not have any indigenous ancestry. People know what indigenous americans looks like, stop being ignorant.
@@ricodelavega4511 - Huh? What are you talking about? I was saying that it’s odd when people who aren’t indigenous claim to be, like her “friend” who wasn’t really her friend in the end. I’m not suggesting that this gal is pretending about anything or needs some sun(?). Mostly, I was noting that there’s something particularly shitty about someone who has no native ancestry claiming that they do, then taking on looks and traditions that aren’t their own and sometimes even taking away opportunities from actual native folks in scholarships or grants, etc. And all of this is especially f’d up when those cultures have had to face unending harassment, humiliation, and violence historically. Edit: I also think it’s strange that you think if this gal had more of a tan, she’d look Mexican and therefore identifiably indigenous. Spain is as European a country as France or Germany and were pretty heavy-duty genocidal colonizers in their own right.
Eeee! That's crazy, I never understand why people do that. I've met many and even now there are some I'm observing just to see how far they'll go. And that's why it's important for us to not share our traditional craft or spiritual knowledge with everyone because they use it later for the wrong reasons, cultural appropriation and hippie new age stuff. Don't blame yourself though, you just think everyone is as kind and honest as you. This is an experience that will help you be more careful and avoid a bigger issue 💕 you're beautiful! And your little brother is so cute!
"I never understand why people do that" ... Because in the US and Canada native american identity, culture, and history have been HYPER ROMANTICIZED. It's been at least 60 years of this hyper romanticizing. Films, books, etc. It's what has caused the pretendian cancer, native larpers, and native culture fetish. Fortunately this degeneracy doesn't exist in Mexico, or among our neighbors in Guatemala, despite there being dozens of tribes and despite a large part of the population having extremely high percentage of indigenous blood even if they themselves are not indigenous.
I hate those people not only because of obviously the fact that it's stealing identity but also because they make it SO much harder for ACTUAL indigenous people who maybe dont phenotypically present as solely ndn to navigate ntv society outside of their own community that knows them. I feel a lot for afro-ntvs who present solely as black. It especially makes things difficult for native americans from south and central america and lower north america because in Latin America/Abya Yala, despite the fact that indigenous nations there have been fighting for recognition for centuries, the criollo governments refuse to acknowledge sovereignty. In addition to that, many "latin american" natives were enslaved in Spanish silver mines and forcibly displaced across latam to work. anddddd in addition to that, most indig communities in latAM do not keep written records of who is what, most things are recorded orally instead. There arent enrollment systems and written english/spanish documents like in US and Canada. No one keeps digital records of lineage because most people are too poor to own or have access to the technology required for that. Therefore if asked, next to none of the tens to hundreds of millions of valid, traditional, connected indigenous people from the south can offer documents "proving" indigenous identity. The only thing they can show is blood quantums averaging 60-100% ndn and being ndn presenting and ndn presenting family, but that leaves out the millions of mestizo-presenting and black-presenting ntvs in LatAM and obviously BQ is bad. Pretendians mess up SO MUCH for real natives. Sorry for my rant, they just make my blood boil. Thank you for sharing your story
In latin america only people who look (and are) fully indigenous are considered indigenous, mestizos are not indigenous, they are what they are, mixed race people You shouldn't use your USA opinion towards the entire Latin America
@@TheSamuelbest12 I'm not from USA, I'm indigenous from mexico. You don't understand what Indigenous or Mestizo means. Indigenous means being culturally and politically Indigenous, and recognized as part of an Indigenous community. Indigenous is not a race. Indigeneity is sovereign. Race is NOT sovereign. Race is "Indian", how colonizers first racialized us based on looks, and is based entirely in the opinions of white ppl: the opposite of sovereignty. Mestizo can mean both culturally mestizo (many people who have 100% Indigenous ancestry and are not mixed race are culturally/ethnically mestizo) and racial mestizo with mixed ancestry. Many mixed race "mestizo" Indigenous people speak the language, are part of indigenous communities, and are treated as Indigenous by local and foreign settler states. Many monoracial "indio/indian" people are culturally assimilated and part of the ethnically mestizo social class. EVERYONE FROM LATIN AMERICA KNOWS THIS.
Its crazy how people want to be native but can't. I was told im not a true native because im also part hispanic growing up. I embrace both cultures and happy being both. She was embarassed she got caught. We have corfew here and been self isolating for 2 weeks also. Be safe and wash them 🖐🖑.
tell Max he is my new friend. it sound like she is two faced liar fake as@ friend i know i'm not Native American do not let her in your head you have closer friend that have been your friends forever tell your family hi from me your so sweet too bad others can not be like you
Your little brother is a cutie, sorry to learn of the deceit, crazy huh. What was that saying, "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery", lol. IDK 🤔 but at least the truth found you.
To be fair, there are native beadworkers in Norway. I'm Sámi native, and we do use beadwork in our regalia, though the patterning is a little different--- but yes, those Ukrainian shops selling clearly native American designs is sickening (and illegal).
NovellyBella I know there are a lot of cultures that practice beadwork but to claim “authentic Native American” is not correct, that’s what I saw on the shop I looked at.
@@RavenMorgan That's honestly so sad. I don't get why people hate their own culture so much that they feel the need to pretend to be a part of ours😕 I hope you reported the shop.
@@RavenMorgan Eeeee...that's unfortunately pretty common over there. I live in Florida, but every time I've been over there, people don't seem to understand why copying cultures is wrong.
Damn my nosey lakota ass wants to know who this is. I remember a white person being found out as a fake she claimed she was albino and had a lot of natives following her on twitter.
Reconnecting is fine my great grandmother was full blooded Cherokee all nine of her children were stolen by colonizers under the guise of adoption ....I don't even outwardly claim it because I didn't live that truth I didnt earn that title but you can tell eyes nose jaw line things that can't be faked cheek bones that can cut but don't claim something you aren't its shameful
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its so crazy that people would do such things. on a different note, your brother is SO ADORABLE
That orange tan with bright blue eyes is a dead giveaway.
Not really. I have friends who are native that tan and I have younger cousins who are native (half) that have blue eyes. 🤷🏽♀️
I wouldn’t think that someone would straight up lie about who they are so I am not one to question someone’s tribal authenticity.
That is a fake tan. I just find that odd. I know plenty of light skin ndns and they just work with what they have. Just seems like she’s trying to hard. Idk tho ✋🏽👀🤚🏽
Holy smokes! That finish look tho
How are your videos not more popular?! Great videos, keep it up!
I think i know who this is about. I remember reading the post exposing her. I think its strange that this person doesn't even exist on social media anymore.
For some reason people get into there heads that they can identify with being native because they watch or read something about our teachings and Heritage. People like that search for external validation through cultural appropriation because who they are ain’t really enough for them.
Kamakanamaikalani Charley I agree. I think this might have been a case like that.
omfg thats crazy i had a pretend friend here in fresno ca like wth im glad she got exposed like thats truly sad tho
Ya all heard of the mad story of Carrie Bourissa?
Makes me so angry
No I have not! I’m going to Google right now lol
This phenomena is so strange to me. I mean, on one hand at least people in America are starting to value native cultures and not just trying to obliterate it. Also, a lot of folks hear some story about “great grandma” who was Shawnee or whatever but wasn’t. Or maybe was and that’s cool - go learn about your people. But even then it can feel strange. My earliest people here in America were Dutch, but I’m not suddenly going to wear ruffed collars and Puritan hats and carry a sword.
so Raven and her adorable sibling I'm guessing are Canadian, some place that doesn't get much sun as she implies in the beginning.....but I guarantee you on her trips to LA she was seen as mexican. If Raven was able to get more sun, she in fact would look hella mexican. Thats your clue, if you dont look mexican, a mestizo (metis) society, you most likely are not indigenous or do not have any indigenous ancestry. People know what indigenous americans looks like, stop being ignorant.
@@ricodelavega4511 - Huh? What are you talking about? I was saying that it’s odd when people who aren’t indigenous claim to be, like her “friend” who wasn’t really her friend in the end. I’m not suggesting that this gal is pretending about anything or needs some sun(?).
Mostly, I was noting that there’s something particularly shitty about someone who has no native ancestry claiming that they do, then taking on looks and traditions that aren’t their own and sometimes even taking away opportunities from actual native folks in scholarships or grants, etc. And all of this is especially f’d up when those cultures have had to face unending harassment, humiliation, and violence historically.
Edit: I also think it’s strange that you think if this gal had more of a tan, she’d look Mexican and therefore identifiably indigenous. Spain is as European a country as France or Germany and were pretty heavy-duty genocidal colonizers in their own right.
I am not Canadian. I’m from Oklahoma in the United States. I’m Pawnee, Cheyenne, Arapaho, & Otoe-Missouria.
It’s a real thing and it’s sad to see it. I’m sorry you went through that. I would be so upset, well I am upset. Exactly why we gate our community
I just started watching your channel. This video looked interesting and I immediately knew who you were talking about D=
Aw,your brother Sooooo CUTE!!!AW!!!LOVE YOUR FAMILY!!!😁🌵FROM AZ,...
Omg, just started the video. He is sooo freaking cute 🥰
Carrie A. Bourassa brought me here. I don't get idiots that do this. When I say this i mean people who falsely claim to be indigenous
Raven Morgan will you do another crafting video pleaseee 🥺🙏🏼🙏🏼
Eeee! That's crazy, I never understand why people do that. I've met many and even now there are some I'm observing just to see how far they'll go. And that's why it's important for us to not share our traditional craft or spiritual knowledge with everyone because they use it later for the wrong reasons, cultural appropriation and hippie new age stuff. Don't blame yourself though, you just think everyone is as kind and honest as you. This is an experience that will help you be more careful and avoid a bigger issue 💕 you're beautiful! And your little brother is so cute!
"I never understand why people do that" ... Because in the US and Canada native american identity, culture, and history have been HYPER ROMANTICIZED. It's been at least 60 years of this hyper romanticizing. Films, books, etc. It's what has caused the pretendian cancer, native larpers, and native culture fetish. Fortunately this degeneracy doesn't exist in Mexico, or among our neighbors in Guatemala, despite there being dozens of tribes and despite a large part of the population having extremely high percentage of indigenous blood even if they themselves are not indigenous.
That’s so crazy! I seen that FB post. 😳🙈. I didn’t know she was on your vlog. Now I’m all nosey. Jks LoL.
Jolynn Begay ikr 🤣
I hate those people not only because of obviously the fact that it's stealing identity but also because they make it SO much harder for ACTUAL indigenous people who maybe dont phenotypically present as solely ndn to navigate ntv society outside of their own community that knows them. I feel a lot for afro-ntvs who present solely as black. It especially makes things difficult for native americans from south and central america and lower north america because in Latin America/Abya Yala, despite the fact that indigenous nations there have been fighting for recognition for centuries, the criollo governments refuse to acknowledge sovereignty. In addition to that, many "latin american" natives were enslaved in Spanish silver mines and forcibly displaced across latam to work. anddddd in addition to that, most indig communities in latAM do not keep written records of who is what, most things are recorded orally instead. There arent enrollment systems and written english/spanish documents like in US and Canada. No one keeps digital records of lineage because most people are too poor to own or have access to the technology required for that. Therefore if asked, next to none of the tens to hundreds of millions of valid, traditional, connected indigenous people from the south can offer documents "proving" indigenous identity. The only thing they can show is blood quantums averaging 60-100% ndn and being ndn presenting and ndn presenting family, but that leaves out the millions of mestizo-presenting and black-presenting ntvs in LatAM and obviously BQ is bad. Pretendians mess up SO MUCH for real natives. Sorry for my rant, they just make my blood boil. Thank you for sharing your story
!!!!!!!all good and valid points!!!!!! thank you for this comment
In latin america only people who look (and are) fully indigenous are considered indigenous, mestizos are not indigenous, they are what they are, mixed race people
You shouldn't use your USA opinion towards the entire Latin America
@@TheSamuelbest12 I'm not from USA, I'm indigenous from mexico. You don't understand what Indigenous or Mestizo means. Indigenous means being culturally and politically Indigenous, and recognized as part of an Indigenous community. Indigenous is not a race. Indigeneity is sovereign. Race is NOT sovereign. Race is "Indian", how colonizers first racialized us based on looks, and is based entirely in the opinions of white ppl: the opposite of sovereignty. Mestizo can mean both culturally mestizo (many people who have 100% Indigenous ancestry and are not mixed race are culturally/ethnically mestizo) and racial mestizo with mixed ancestry. Many mixed race "mestizo" Indigenous people speak the language, are part of indigenous communities, and are treated as Indigenous by local and foreign settler states. Many monoracial "indio/indian" people are culturally assimilated and part of the ethnically mestizo social class. EVERYONE FROM LATIN AMERICA KNOWS THIS.
Its crazy how people want to be native but can't. I was told im not a true native because im also part hispanic growing up. I embrace both cultures and happy being both. She was embarassed she got caught. We have corfew here and been self isolating for 2 weeks also. Be safe and wash them 🖐🖑.
"Hispanic" isnt a "Race"
You have beautiful hair
tell Max he is my new friend. it sound like she is two faced liar fake as@ friend i know i'm not Native American do not let her in your head you have closer friend that have been your friends forever tell your family hi from me your so sweet too bad others can not be like you
Hey awsome vid. Lol stay safe.
Now everyone is going to look at that vlog 🤣
Kelsey Sankey I’m embarrassed now!!! Lol but fr, had to point that out in case people think I’m still associated with her. 🥶🤷🏽♀️
I don’t blame you! Lol. Just delete the whole video 🤣
Weird story. If she made money off this, she should face some kind of repercussion. Stay safe! My regards to Max.👍
Native Atheist I know she sold beadwork, received scholarship and worked on shows. 🥶🥶🥶
AWareness thanks again for sharing Raven Morgan yes your expression on face very very beautiful lady walk in BEAUTY cousin!.
I just seen her in one of your vlogs.
Your little brother is a cutie, sorry to learn of the deceit, crazy huh. What was that saying, "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery", lol. IDK 🤔 but at least the truth found you.
Thank you for sharing Raven. Got back from Colorado 14 days ago. Had to "self quarantine." Ugh. Great to see u.
Awww lil man Just cute
Eek! That’s unfortunate...
Interesting story
To be fair, there are native beadworkers in Norway. I'm Sámi native, and we do use beadwork in our regalia, though the patterning is a little different--- but yes, those Ukrainian shops selling clearly native American designs is sickening (and illegal).
NovellyBella I know there are a lot of cultures that practice beadwork but to claim “authentic Native American” is not correct, that’s what I saw on the shop I looked at.
I didn’t mention, the shop ALSO claimed some items to be “authentic African American”. 🥶
@@RavenMorgan That's honestly so sad. I don't get why people hate their own culture so much that they feel the need to pretend to be a part of ours😕 I hope you reported the shop.
@@RavenMorgan Eeeee...that's unfortunately pretty common over there. I live in Florida, but every time I've been over there, people don't seem to understand why copying cultures is wrong.
@@RavenMorgan what is EVEN authentic "african Ameican" beadwork hahaha people are insane
Damn my nosey lakota ass wants to know who this is. I remember a white person being found out as a fake she claimed she was albino and had a lot of natives following her on twitter.
I see ur Shakopee jacket are u single?
It’s just from the powwow
@@RavenMorgan 😂
GIRL I SHOP ON ETSY AND I SEEN THAT TOO!!!!
CeCelia Casillas smh!
❤
Omg lol hahaha!
Reconnecting is fine my great grandmother was full blooded Cherokee all nine of her children were stolen by colonizers under the guise of adoption ....I don't even outwardly claim it because I didn't live that truth I didnt earn that title but you can tell eyes nose jaw line things that can't be faked cheek bones that can cut but don't claim something you aren't its shameful
You aren't cherokee boo.
@@missvida6251 she's saying that, she's saying she has ancestry