Hopefully, under the 2nd option they have the good sense to go seek help from the UC or Freestar governments to be resettled. They are essentially refugees from Earth and I'd imagine they'd be more than willing to help settle them somewhere.
That would be and options if the crazy lady would understand she cant dominate a planet let alone the same species with 200 yrs ahead of them with technology.
Or maybe the UC would just be like “Either you guys commit to furthering our interests & earn your citizenship, or you go down in The Well with all the other shady criminal types.” As for the FC, the mega corporations (Ryujin, HopeTech, etc.) basically call all the shots, and if anything they’re even worse than Paradiso. I honestly think their best bet is to join up with the LIST guys. They’re facing the same challenges of homesteading on distant planets, and they could use some help fighting off the Spacers & other pirates.
I selected to get the grav drive but shot all three of them because their leader pissed me off. Shot all their security too. Had to restart because i had a $50,000 bounty from Paradiso.
The fact that this quest has no option to "screw with the corporate assholes" and instead you fk over people who flew 200 years and had an initial claim on the planet is dissapointing. Alot of quests start of good, then become meh. But hey, at least we have diversity. That's the real winner here.
This..also since there's dialogue for who has the oldest claim to the planet, means that probably there was a part of the quest left unfinished, where you'd probably go on the hunt for Constant's original rights to the planet, hence get the good ending. Rip. "It just works"
@@r34dyplayerone91 Bethesda was too busy designing salmon in vacuum packages to invest in well written quests, sorry. 16 times the detail on the salmon tho!
And to top it off the corporate assholes are IMMORTAL, it makes NO sense. This is easily the worst Bethesda quest I've ever played. Because it feels 50% done, never mind the details they mention in the dialogue that you can't act on, there's also whole conversations that should've been had with other characters before moving forward. The captain never even complains when you choose to go for the GravDrive, prior to that the last conversation I had with her she told me she'd "prefer if the people on the planet left the planet" and now she's just like "Woo, Gravdrive!" I left the conference room with a mine by the exit, that was the only way for me to feel like there was some justice served.
I want to visit their eventual settlement if they ever make one? i left a quest unfinished with the guy looking for his family with the hopes of returning to them when they landed but they just seem to be orbiting a deep freeze planet - do they eventually settle??
Isn't there? What if you blow them up before even docking? 🤔 or dock then kill everyone onboard? I am playing as empath right now so I haven't tried those options. You rarely have a firefight as an empath/char. with high persuation skills 😂
Agreed, some missed opportunities here. Could've had a hunt for their 200 year old claim to the planet, also could've incorporated their 200 year old ship as a time capsule attraction for Paradiso.
Yeah. It feels rushed and not complete. The setup for this mission makes it feel like there's at least 10 different ways to do this mission. It made me frustrated and so I just started shooting everyone 😆 🤣 😂
My bug was slightly different. The captain recognizes that I have all the ingredients, but when I have to finish the dialogue with her to go to Porrima, the game gets stuck in this first-person dialogue scene, with her smiling face looking at me eagerly waiting for me to do something, but the camera doesn't move from her face and I can't move my character. And worse than that, I can't even access the game's menus by pressing the ESC key. I have to finish the game by telling Windows to shut it down. I discovered that the only way to finish this quest was to go back to an old save game, before a certain character died during the main quests. All the save games I had after this character died didn't allow me to finish this mission, or even choose to make the ship explode.
Giving them a Grav Driv contrdict what she said before leaving the ship. She said "This Planet" and nothing else, so I work a deal they have to work a debt instead. Even though that option still sucks, and I had no other way to debuttled a deal. Also how would they know how a grav drive would work? Thier ship doesn't even have a land gear?? I feel that the questline was rushed at the end. Too bad, it started off strong!
You know I wonder the same thing and I recently landed on denebola II-a planet on denebola systems and landed on Spaceship debris which I just found randomly. Turns out a huge ship crash there maybe that was the aftermath. 🤷🏽♂️
I was really hoping this mission was bigger and more important than it actually is. I'm severely disappointed. It reminded me of Fallout 3 vaults and I thought it was gonna be a secret special mission. Turns out it's more random bs and doesn't really matter
The grav drive option seems like the best option... why would you have them work to pay off their debts for a greedy corporation when they been traveling for 200 years ??? id rather them go to alpha Centari
I gave them the grav drive, which cost me 25,000 credits after haggling! And I regretted it, because they were ungrateful as hell! When I went back to their captain and asked for payment, she's like: "oh, I guess the satisfaction of helping people isn't enough?" :O. Some people....
Same here, this quest is messed up on so many levels. I came here thinking I missed some options but nope. A very promising quest ruined because "it just works"
If you bring up your scanner in any point of the game it will show you the route to make it to your waypoint. It only lasts for a little while though so you’ll have to keep bringing the scanner up.
@@bigimportantman1544 the problem is i can’t board my ship. It has disappeared and when I go to the door to board my ship it glitches and doesn’t let me acces my ship.
I wish I could use my shotgun as it has explosive slugs and Oliver really needs to see what it can do but you can never use your powers or your guns so I don't know why we have powers
Anyone who thinks that giving them a Grav drive is the " good ending " didn't get to know the crew. By getting the colonists to ground is the safest and best option. Mahbuti was scheduled for self termination. By getting them to the planet you save lives. Giving them the grav drive is a curse with an inevitable end. They will never be able to survive. By having them be employed by Paradise they are a collective union. Regardless of how they are compensated. Remember they have no need for credits. Also the quest is truly done correctly when you get them planetside. You'll see once you get to the unity.
But, stupidily, even after you blow up the colony ship (should you choose to do so), AND you fly there to witness it, Bethesda, in their infinite wisdom, still has the ship in orbit for the rest of your gameplay. You just can’t interact with it any more.
So none of the 3 give you anything thats just wonderful wtf is wrong with this game its like it isnt a bethesda game at all! 😢 i mean hell the 2nd option theyre going to another planet to live ie they wont need that ship you just spent 40k on hand it over i mean come on!
It's complete ass. You should be able to screw over the execs somehow. Like if your a deputy there should be more options. Or if you joined vanguard it should allow you to overrule the execs. Or, you should've been able to go all the to earth to find the documents from 200 years ago. Which would give them the right to the planet. They wanted to do something similar to the Tenpenny Tower in Fallout 3. When you either choose to blow up Megaton and join Tenpenny Tower. Or disagree and join Megaton.
There’s nothing I can do?!! Really?!! I just destroyed a ship with hundreds of people in it, what makes you thing I can waste you right here , right now . ( that’s what I will say ) 😂 😅
Its so disappointing. First story that seemed interesting and the dialogue is so poorly written.. Ugh. Atleast ship building is fun, otherwise i'd give this game a 5/10.
@@perez2061The fact you need to unlock it through a skill tree to do a simple mechanic that has been in most RPG's right when you boot up the game!? I'm sorry... but, there are some serious game design flaws with this game. That should be something you get right at the beginning. Same with lock picking. Like wtf was Bethesda thinking!? Lol.
@@ianmcclure3936are you okay? Pickpocketing has always been a skill thing in majority of Bethesda games. And they definitely aren’t the only ones to do it that way.
@@FinesseHer Nah. It's definitely always a skill you had when you began the game or at least from what I remembered. You just had to upgrade your skill through the skill tree to make it more efficient. Although in this game if you aren't aware like me you'll go through most of the game without realizing you need to unlock it through the skill tree to even be able to use it. Which I find pretty dumb personally. Like I feel the most basic skills like pickpocketing, lock picking, or even ship targeting should always be skills you should have at the very start. Maybe I might sound like I am nit-picking... but, Idk... I am just not a fan of this new skill tree system personally. Especially since the simplest Skills that you start out with in most RPG's are locked behind a skill tree.
The hardest (worst) part of ANY of the three options is, finding your way off that horribly confusing generation ship…
They have signs.
i hated it
I’m currently stuck on this part lol 😂
Came to this video looking for a way off. Didn’t even occur to me to use the scanner. Fuck this ship. Glad to be rid of it.
@@andrewkenney1093 NK. I'm never returning, not even on a future toon.
Hopefully, under the 2nd option they have the good sense to go seek help from the UC or Freestar governments to be resettled. They are essentially refugees from Earth and I'd imagine they'd be more than willing to help settle them somewhere.
That would be and options if the crazy lady would understand she cant dominate a planet let alone the same species with 200 yrs ahead of them with technology.
Or maybe the UC would just be like “Either you guys commit to furthering our interests & earn your citizenship, or you go down in The Well with all the other shady criminal types.” As for the FC, the mega corporations (Ryujin, HopeTech, etc.) basically call all the shots, and if anything they’re even worse than Paradiso.
I honestly think their best bet is to join up with the LIST guys. They’re facing the same challenges of homesteading on distant planets, and they could use some help fighting off the Spacers & other pirates.
I selected to get the grav drive but shot all three of them because their leader pissed me off. Shot all their security too. Had to restart because i had a $50,000 bounty from Paradiso.
eeeee what happens on paradiso should stay on paradiso. id do the same hate those megacorp guys
Anybody else wish you could johnny silverhand the Paradiso HQ
Too bad you cant just blow up paradiso
Or just kill everything down there. I don't think neither UC nor FC would investigate something way outside of their territories.
Right ...those fuckers are greedy
Definitely should’ve been an option
There is a mod that let you do it
The fact that this quest has no option to "screw with the corporate assholes" and instead you fk over people who flew 200 years and had an initial claim on the planet is dissapointing. Alot of quests start of good, then become meh. But hey, at least we have diversity. That's the real winner here.
This..also since there's dialogue for who has the oldest claim to the planet, means that probably there was a part of the quest left unfinished, where you'd probably go on the hunt for Constant's original rights to the planet, hence get the good ending. Rip. "It just works"
@@r34dyplayerone91 Bethesda was too busy designing salmon in vacuum packages to invest in well written quests, sorry. 16 times the detail on the salmon tho!
That’s what I’m saying
I want to start a war between them
And to top it off the corporate assholes are IMMORTAL, it makes NO sense. This is easily the worst Bethesda quest I've ever played. Because it feels 50% done, never mind the details they mention in the dialogue that you can't act on, there's also whole conversations that should've been had with other characters before moving forward. The captain never even complains when you choose to go for the GravDrive, prior to that the last conversation I had with her she told me she'd "prefer if the people on the planet left the planet" and now she's just like "Woo, Gravdrive!"
I left the conference room with a mine by the exit, that was the only way for me to feel like there was some justice served.
I want to visit their eventual settlement if they ever make one? i left a quest unfinished with the guy looking for his family with the hopes of returning to them when they landed but they just seem to be orbiting a deep freeze planet - do they eventually settle??
Maybe post the outcomes and benefits/reward/consequences in the beginning next time. That’s why we’re here.
I should be able to hunt down all the executives then give the world to the ship
Really should of been at least two other options to finish this quest.
Including one to screw over Oliver...like threat of SSN blowing up their media with horrible PR I mean..its so obvious
Option 4 should have been reverse pickpocketing a frag in the all of the board's pants.
Isn't there? What if you blow them up before even docking? 🤔 or dock then kill everyone onboard? I am playing as empath right now so I haven't tried those options. You rarely have a firefight as an empath/char. with high persuation skills 😂
Agreed, some missed opportunities here. Could've had a hunt for their 200 year old claim to the planet, also could've incorporated their 200 year old ship as a time capsule attraction for Paradiso.
Yeah. It feels rushed and not complete. The setup for this mission makes it feel like there's at least 10 different ways to do this mission. It made me frustrated and so I just started shooting everyone 😆 🤣 😂
Should have been a option to have them settle in your outposts but anyway
Has anyone else encountered a bug where the quest log says you have all the resources needed, but the captain says you don't?
same here i ; stuck
My bug was slightly different. The captain recognizes that I have all the ingredients, but when I have to finish the dialogue with her to go to Porrima, the game gets stuck in this first-person dialogue scene, with her smiling face looking at me eagerly waiting for me to do something, but the camera doesn't move from her face and I can't move my character. And worse than that, I can't even access the game's menus by pressing the ESC key. I have to finish the game by telling Windows to shut it down. I discovered that the only way to finish this quest was to go back to an old save game, before a certain character died during the main quests. All the save games I had after this character died didn't allow me to finish this mission, or even choose to make the ship explode.
Giving them a Grav Driv contrdict what she said before leaving the ship. She said "This Planet" and nothing else, so I work a deal they have to work a debt instead. Even though that option still sucks, and I had no other way to debuttled a deal.
Also how would they know how a grav drive would work? Thier ship doesn't even have a land gear?? I feel that the questline was rushed at the end. Too bad, it started off strong!
they must know, they have artificial gravity.
You know I wonder the same thing and I recently landed on denebola II-a planet on denebola systems and landed on Spaceship debris which I just found randomly. Turns out a huge ship crash there maybe that was the aftermath. 🤷🏽♂️
I was really hoping this mission was bigger and more important than it actually is. I'm severely disappointed. It reminded me of Fallout 3 vaults and I thought it was gonna be a secret special mission. Turns out it's more random bs and doesn't really matter
The grav drive option seems like the best option... why would you have them work to pay off their debts for a greedy corporation when they been traveling for 200 years ??? id rather them go to alpha Centari
I gave them the grav drive, which cost me 25,000 credits after haggling! And I regretted it, because they were ungrateful as hell! When I went back to their captain and asked for payment, she's like: "oh, I guess the satisfaction of helping people isn't enough?" :O. Some people....
yeah lol@@PeerensClement
option 2 you can recruit a follower for potato's.
excuse me
what? explain pls
That took so meny time coz had to watch this so much so confusing with no commentary
So he didn’t give me all the resources for the first option
When I first stepped in and talked to Captain Diana, I got a message (activity/quest) telling me to speak Sarah Morgan… she’s dead…
Funny how after the ship blows up it reappears back in orbit later.
Best planets for the resources??
This
12:50 Whats going on with the turns left there? it was on 1 turn for 2-3 selections there.
How come when I go to urgent actions it says "no actions in queue"
Same here, this quest is messed up on so many levels. I came here thinking I missed some options but nope. A very promising quest ruined because "it just works"
Can you kill the resort people or does that just fail the quest?
Nah i tried it, you can't kill them.
I got stuck on the ship and can’t get out.
If you bring up your scanner in any point of the game it will show you the route to make it to your waypoint.
It only lasts for a little while though so you’ll have to keep bringing the scanner up.
@@bigimportantman1544 the problem is i can’t board my ship. It has disappeared and when I go to the door to board my ship it glitches and doesn’t let me acces my ship.
hey, when I went to provisions guy on the ship, he did NOT have any resources for me, what am u doing wrong??? TIA
Estou com o mesmo poblema. O que vc fez?
i wish there was option to tell them to go to jemirson
They don’t want to share…
I wish I could use my shotgun as it has explosive slugs and Oliver really needs to see what it can do but you can never use your powers or your guns so I don't know why we have powers
I watched this whole video and now i don't want to do the quest
Why not show the hack?
Anyone who thinks that giving them a Grav drive is the " good ending " didn't get to know the crew. By getting the colonists to ground is the safest and best option. Mahbuti was scheduled for self termination. By getting them to the planet you save lives. Giving them the grav drive is a curse with an inevitable end. They will never be able to survive. By having them be employed by Paradise they are a collective union. Regardless of how they are compensated. Remember they have no need for credits. Also the quest is truly done correctly when you get them planetside. You'll see once you get to the unity.
But, stupidily, even after you blow up the colony ship (should you choose to do so), AND you fly there to witness it, Bethesda, in their infinite wisdom, still has the ship in orbit for the rest of your gameplay. You just can’t interact with it any more.
So none of the 3 give you anything thats just wonderful wtf is wrong with this game its like it isnt a bethesda game at all! 😢 i mean hell the 2nd option theyre going to another planet to live ie they wont need that ship you just spent 40k on hand it over i mean come on!
Awe cry me a fucking river. Go play god of war.
You get relics and a pistol
Can negotiate down to 25k then get relics to sell to antique shops
It's complete ass. You should be able to screw over the execs somehow. Like if your a deputy there should be more options. Or if you joined vanguard it should allow you to overrule the execs.
Or, you should've been able to go all the to earth to find the documents from 200 years ago. Which would give them the right to the planet.
They wanted to do something similar to the Tenpenny Tower in Fallout 3. When you either choose to blow up Megaton and join Tenpenny Tower. Or disagree and join Megaton.
This quest sucks. I reloaded to a point before it started and will never go back to it.
You go through the grav drive computer options way too fast but thanks for the outcome video.
Sou do Brasil 3 não achei nenhum vídeo bom quanto o seu. Obrigado
There’s nothing I can do?!! Really?!! I just destroyed a ship with hundreds of people in it, what makes you thing I can waste you right here , right now . ( that’s what I will say ) 😂 😅
Its so disappointing. First story that seemed interesting and the dialogue is so poorly written.. Ugh. Atleast ship building is fun, otherwise i'd give this game a 5/10.
That sums up Bethesda games a lot lately. Seem interesting at first but they always manage to mess up.
This is bs. I never get the option to pick pocket
do u have the skill unlocked?
@@perez2061The fact you need to unlock it through a skill tree to do a simple mechanic that has been in most RPG's right when you boot up the game!? I'm sorry... but, there are some serious game design flaws with this game. That should be something you get right at the beginning. Same with lock picking. Like wtf was Bethesda thinking!? Lol.
@@ianmcclure3936are you okay? Pickpocketing has always been a skill thing in majority of Bethesda games. And they definitely aren’t the only ones to do it that way.
@@FinesseHer Nah. It's definitely always a skill you had when you began the game or at least from what I remembered. You just had to upgrade your skill through the skill tree to make it more efficient. Although in this game if you aren't aware like me you'll go through most of the game without realizing you need to unlock it through the skill tree to even be able to use it. Which I find pretty dumb personally. Like I feel the most basic skills like pickpocketing, lock picking, or even ship targeting should always be skills you should have at the very start. Maybe I might sound like I am nit-picking... but, Idk... I am just not a fan of this new skill tree system personally. Especially since the simplest Skills that you start out with in most RPG's are locked behind a skill tree.
@@ianmcclure3936typing all that instead of just unlocking the skill
This mission sucks ass! Why should I have to pay 25000-40000 to get and old ass baseball in return??? NO REWARD?!?!?! WTF????
Should have destroyed the ship… now I got a bunch of useless junk
Played all, best is the reactor. These leeches are not worthy despite how nice they seem
Im trying to find va ruun weapons. Been to most vendors . Anyone know of a vendor or mybe a ship location i can loot va ruun weapons.
go to serpentis system
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