just come across this and i have to say been sat here for an hour with a smile on my face,explains and keeps things so simple(and cheap),can't wait to watch many more.keep up the great work .5*****
I've done the same to several TVPs now , and caught on to the Flash band idea from a forum post a few years back. The 'go by the book' crowd came up with all sorts of excuses from 'Toxic' (?) to 'it will fall off when in the warm sun' , none of which has been the case. Even the standard 4'' applied in strips works wonders ( last one i put 4 x 10m rolls in) cheap as chips under the insulation , and as you know, excellent results!
To all you guys & gals on this sort of task, I'll drop my 2 cents while passing by! ;-) Silicone or butyl tubes, some 4x of them should be enough quantity, for a van this size. Notice when the material is cured/dry, the more "rubbery" it is, the better it will perform! So choose wisely and cheaply! LOL 😂 Bad jokes apart, the cheapest you can find is usually good enough. Go trough ALL the joints or matting metal surfaces on the van! Now that you've put the flash band. Might be rather difficult to access some areas. I truly advise this as a first step on sound insulation/treatment. It is most effective on this type of vehicle due to the large amount of exposed and totally uninsulated metal! The drumming of all those metal panels is dramatically reduced. Beside it's really fast. You can finish an entire van in a couple of hours! ;-) Curiously, but not surprising, a really nice "side effect". Is the considerable increase in rigidity of the entire monocoque. That alone makes the entire van way less squeaky! Simple test. Park the van with one rear wheel on a sidewalk, notice just one wheel lifted! Test it by opening an closing the rear and side doors! Repeat test after! You'll be surprised. BTW for what it's worth the Renault, Opel/Vauxhal, Nissan triplets is one of the most rigid vans of their generation! Similar test on an older Hyundai H1 and the doors wouldn't close properly! ;-) Anything else you add, like this flash band, will just improve on that initial "treatment". Totally worth. Cheers
I intend to use shed roof felt that I have spare, but I think you'd be better not being so fussy about the size. To stop the drumming effect I intend to cut and glue mine a 1/4/ small all around. Then caulk all those gaps between the chassis frame and panels in case vibration causes sound there.
Just planning my build. Do you know what the distance is between the two wheel arches? Also what is the distance from the top of the wheel arch, to the roof (lowest point) is? Don't worry if you don't, but it'd help me out! Cheers!
Thanks for your question Lukeplayer187. I used extra wide flashband (sort of lead flashing replacement). It was given to me by a friend ages ago but it's a bit like this stuff. www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01K35OY7Q/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fab_GRoEFbMY3FKJR Cheers Larcs👍
Larcs Workshop yes I know the stuff, it’s not far from being the same as the expensive stuff when you compare the two. Plus £30 for 10 metres at 300mm wide is a winner 👍🏼
I used extra wide flashband (sort of lead flashing replacement). It was given to me by a friend ages ago but it's a bit like this stuff. www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01K35OY7Q/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fab_GRoEFbMY3FKJR Cheers Larcs👍
Just looked up this flash band stuff, and seems its made of lead? Would it be okay to use in a confined space like that? Isn't lead bad for you? Cheers
The stuff I used was bitumen based so isn't an issue. Check before you buy just in case though. And yes, lead is very bad for you if inhaled or ingested. Cheers Larcs 👍
@@LarcsWorkshop shit used to put air rifle pellets in my mouth as a kid when out shooting and nibble bits off and swallow them forty odd years ago still alive pluss my brother shot me in the hand, pellet still in and again still alive abit tapped though that must be the lead
just come across this and i have to say been sat here for an hour with a smile on my face,explains and keeps things so simple(and cheap),can't wait to watch many more.keep up the great work .5*****
Thank you so much for your kind comments 😁. I'm glad you like the videos 👌.
Cheers Larcs
Like it you are pretty meticulous well done pal very tidy, loved the tapping
Thanks 👍
I've done the same to several TVPs now , and caught on to the Flash band idea from a forum post a few years back. The 'go by the book' crowd came up with all sorts of excuses from 'Toxic' (?) to 'it will fall off when in the warm sun' , none of which has been the case. Even the standard 4'' applied in strips works wonders ( last one i put 4 x 10m rolls in) cheap as chips under the insulation , and as you know, excellent results!
Totally agree 😃. Thanks for the comment.
Cheers Larcs👍
To all you guys & gals on this sort of task, I'll drop my 2 cents while passing by! ;-)
Silicone or butyl tubes, some 4x of them should be enough quantity, for a van this size. Notice when the material is cured/dry, the more "rubbery" it is, the better it will perform! So choose wisely and cheaply! LOL 😂
Bad jokes apart, the cheapest you can find is usually good enough.
Go trough ALL the joints or matting metal surfaces on the van! Now that you've put the flash band. Might be rather difficult to access some areas. I truly advise this as a first step on sound insulation/treatment.
It is most effective on this type of vehicle due to the large amount of exposed and totally uninsulated metal! The drumming of all those metal panels is dramatically reduced. Beside it's really fast. You can finish an entire van in a couple of hours! ;-)
Curiously, but not surprising, a really nice "side effect". Is the considerable increase in rigidity of the entire monocoque. That alone makes the entire van way less squeaky!
Simple test. Park the van with one rear wheel on a sidewalk, notice just one wheel lifted! Test it by opening an closing the rear and side doors! Repeat test after! You'll be surprised.
BTW for what it's worth the Renault, Opel/Vauxhal, Nissan triplets is one of the most rigid vans of their generation! Similar test on an older Hyundai H1 and the doors wouldn't close properly! ;-)
Anything else you add, like this flash band, will just improve on that initial "treatment". Totally worth. Cheers
@@crpth1 Thanks 👍
well worth getting the metal panel behind the seats from a scrappies !
Thanks, but I've fitted a swivel seat.
Cheers Larcs 👍
I realy liked that you saved like $100
Thanks for the comment Matt😃.
It's always good to save some money👍.
Cheers Larcs.
@@LarcsWorkshop my name isn’t Matt I’m just on my dads account.my real name is chase so you can call me chase
Ok Chase😊, thanks for your comments 👍.
Cheers Larcs.
@@LarcsWorkshop you should do like a show on RUclips and like make a camper and like cabins and houses 🏡
very good videos!! keep up the good work and more videos of vivaro please! 💯💯❤️
Thanks, I've got more coming soon 👍.
Cheers Larcs
do it in the frontdoors too and in the roof of the front
Good shout 👍
I intend to use shed roof felt that I have spare, but I think you'd be better not being so fussy about the size. To stop the drumming effect I intend to cut and glue mine a 1/4/ small all around. Then caulk all those gaps between the chassis frame and panels in case vibration causes sound there.
Good job 👍
Sounds much better are you going to fit a bulkhead i fitted one in mine and it made a world of difference the sterio souds better too
Thanks👍, yes it made a big difference. I'm not going to fit a bulkhead.
Cheers Larcs
Thanks👍, yes it made a big difference. I'm not going to fit a bulkhead.
Cheers Larcs
How do I remove lcd screen from my Vauxhall’s vivaro 2006
Sorry, I don't know. I've never removed one, not yet anyway.
Just planning my build. Do you know what the distance is between the two wheel arches? Also what is the distance from the top of the wheel arch, to the roof (lowest point) is? Don't worry if you don't, but it'd help me out! Cheers!
Hi, it's 1260mm (49.1/2") between arches & 1060mm (41.3/4") from the top of the arch to the roof cross member.
Cheers Larcs 👍
@@LarcsWorkshop That's very helpful, thank you! Got to rethink all my plans though 😂
@@georgestone8099 👍
A 6×6 sheet in the centre of each panal would have done the same. If you don't believe me take the front door panal has
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What is the stuff you used? It’s made a big improvement.
Thanks for your question Lukeplayer187.
I used extra wide flashband (sort of lead flashing replacement). It was given to me by a friend ages ago but it's a bit like this stuff.
www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01K35OY7Q/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fab_GRoEFbMY3FKJR
Cheers Larcs👍
Larcs Workshop yes I know the stuff, it’s not far from being the same as the expensive stuff when you compare the two. Plus £30 for 10 metres at 300mm wide is a winner 👍🏼
@@lukeplayer187 Yep, it did the job for me👍
How did you smooth out the floor?
I didn't, just put down underlay then the carpet. It was stuff left here when we moved house.
Cheers Larcs 👍
What sound deadening material did you use?
I used extra wide flashband (sort of lead flashing replacement). It was given to me by a friend ages ago but it's a bit like this stuff.
www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01K35OY7Q/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fab_GRoEFbMY3FKJR
Cheers Larcs👍
Just fitted the flash tape. Will see if its any better.
Cheers.
@@longdog67 Hope it's a bit better 👍.
Just looked up this flash band stuff, and seems its made of lead? Would it be okay to use in a confined space like that? Isn't lead bad for you? Cheers
The stuff I used was bitumen based so isn't an issue. Check before you buy just in case though. And yes, lead is very bad for you if inhaled or ingested.
Cheers Larcs 👍
@@LarcsWorkshop shit used to put air rifle pellets in my mouth as a kid when out shooting and nibble bits off and swallow them forty odd years ago still alive pluss my brother shot me in the hand, pellet still in and again still alive abit tapped though that must be the lead