You are a helpful Man I found you channel with this mare . I was skeptical . That was 4 yrs ago ! Minnesota needs Horsemen . Ive been fortunate to ride a mare old enough to vote this summer . She's on her way now thanks to you !
For some reason I am not always getting a notification on the day that you post Mrs. Deb. I do still get them though, usually the next day. I really enjoy listening and learning from that funny old man you are hanging out with, ha ha. Happy belated birthday Mr. Pat. Thank you both for the effort that you put into teaching and entertaining us. For this channel, a Like button is not enough. It needs a Love button. Western Kentucky
I don’t know why you aren’t getting your notifications right away. I’m assuming you pressed that little bell button for notifications? Maybe unpress it and then press it again?
@@PatnDebPuckett I will try that. Yout_be has turned into cyber police and nothing seems to work like it did. Especially the political channel I follow.
Some of the things you say are so obvious I've been missing them for years. Sometimes I need the gentle reminder as well. Two of my take always from this video include the following. "The horse is searching." "Don't tip the head." When I first learned to side pass a horse I was told to tip the head away from the direction of travel. As you pointed out in the video that causes the horse to move its hind end. I've struggle with this for many years. I'm anxious to try this the way you said. Thanks for another great video.
Thanks again for the wisdom. And I’m assuming Deb does all the production work, so especially thanks to you. The thought of Pat editing videos puts a grin on my face.
'I think it's becoming obvious that you're going to have to actually ride'....love this!!!! I'm learning to ride western after years of English and just trail riding sitting there doing nothing with the horse just following. I love learning Western and controlling the horse's body. Thank you for this video as I forgot if I had to tip the nose or not. I'll check at my next lesson what my instructor says!
I Just discovered your videos. Love your training philosophy. I am so tired of seeing over bridled training. This obsession with pivoting and backing hard and fast. All done with really low over tucked heads. Ridiculous. You are a true horseman.
I learn heaps from watching videos like these. But especially yours Pat and Deb 🙌😊. I am from Australia and I ride a 15.2hh, 10 year old OTTTB mare. She wasn't re-educated properly cause she leans on the bit at canter. This is partly the reason why I can't canter. So I am still a novice rider for now 😢 but oh well.
Pat, you my friend are a good instructor. The words you choose, the directions that you give cannot be miss understood. We all can learn things from a horse that has not been given a fair deal. You are 1000% correct about release. Release is a sugar lump too that horse and he responds way faster too a treat like RELEASE. It shows how respectful a man you are with a animal. Thanks you are a blast to listen to and watch. Your the best. You and I have both had good teachers. It is amazing what the animal teaches us. They are all different. God bless the honesty that you teach with as well.
Who did you get those rasps from? 😜 Thank you for explaining how and what it should look like when you take pressure off with your leg. We are told that a lot and most people (me included!) thought that meant the exaggerated movement of sticking your leg out. Which is completely impractical for working cattle. Again, thank you for these videos! I share them with my family when I can! Happy Trails!
Hi Pat! Absolutely love all of your videos! I find them so inspiring and refreshing. I really hope to one day make your acquaintance. Regards from South Africa!☆
Been going back and watching some of your earlier videos like this one while we are still iced in up here. My round pen is thawed enough to use again so it won't be long until riding season gets under way again full steam but I wanted to say THANK YOU! for telling people not to tip the nose when you side pass on a working horse. That is a show ring thing, like drilling a hole in a spin is, and it(nose tipped side passing) is a big nuisance habit in a working horse when they tip their nose and or bend in a U-shape and can't see where they are going or what you are trying to accomplish work wise. Plus it make their hind end angle all wrong for actually getting anything done until they have straightened out. I would much rather work with a horse that doesn't know how to side pass then one who has the nose tipping habit trained into them.
I notice you didn't comment about the front end moving, then the back end moving, etc. I get it, that the horse is just figuring this out, so you allow some loose movements. When camera was on your right - moving left - I could clearly see your legs. Didn't seem to move from center barrel, bump bump bump. If my horse swings his butt out, I correct by moving my leg back & bumping a little, to straighten him out. Is this correct in your opinion? Just received your Let's Dance DVD, btw. Looking forward to viewing it. Laurie
Deb, what can be done for a horse with a bad "barn buddy" problem. I am having a hard time getting through to one and getting him to focus on his job without him worried about what the rest of the herd is doing.
I personally find that if I can get my horse’s feet moving at a high trot over questionable terrain, it forces him to make some tough choices about where his mind should be. Whereas if I creep around at a walk, it gives him all kinds of time to fall in to sin. Of course, this is all cheap talk from here!
If you can set it up, working your horse in their home and around their buddies can help. Make being around their buddies just another job. Then they may not like being with them so well. Work them until they want to leave their buddies willingly. Depending on the horse I have found working your horse in their home at the beginning of your ride and at the end of your ride can help. At the beginning until your horse leaves willingly and at the end if your horse isn't with you coming home. Near the end of the ride, work them at them at home, ask them to leave willingly and see if they come back home with you. If they do then you can go ahead, cool them out and hang them. You might have to try this routine for awhile depending on the horse.
Charlie Peters, Clinton Anderson Down Under Horsemanship has a great youtube video for 'working' your horse around the other horses or barn, etc. Gives you a good idea of how hard to work them. Remember that one session won't be enough when a horse has a bad habit. If you can work them every single ride for many rides in a row (5? 10?) they will at some point make the connection you want.
1909video It depends on what you mean by “stall.” If you mean a 12 x 12 enclosed space, there is nothing you can do to occupy an animal that is made to travel long distances in that small of a space. It would be like having you stand all day in a closet with nothing to do but pry your food through a grate. We avoid a whole lot of problems, from physical to psychological, by running our mares all together and our geldings all together in large corrals or turn outs whenever possible. That way they are able to form natural herd relationships, move around a larger area, and avoid boredom and frustration. At the very least, we provide a large corral. So there you have it. Don’t put horses in stalls and you won’t need a slow feeder.
You can buy a Missing Link Snaffle on our website www.thedisciplinedride.com . If you order now, you will receive your bit in early September. Thank you for the question!
Do you ever have a problem with them freaking out and rearing up when you have them nosed up against the panels like that and are asking them to move sideways?
if you don't know Gil Favor ,,, you ain't no Cowboy 🤠 If possible ,and you will,love to see ,Halter training ,Both with an untouched 2 or 3 year old and a Weanling ! Thank you !!!
Only if the horse is ridden behind the vertical. We like our horses to carry themselves with their heads a few degrees ahead of vertical in a more natural carriage.
Thank youy for sharing your knowledge with me!!! Omg than you so much for explicit directions on how to accomplish a side pass to the right!!!
You are a helpful Man
I found you channel with this mare . I was skeptical .
That was 4 yrs ago !
Minnesota needs Horsemen . Ive been fortunate to ride a mare old enough to vote this summer .
She's on her way now thanks to you !
"If you don't have good hands, get 'em." Priceless advice. First order of business. Seen so many horses suffer needlessly with heavy handed riders.
Thankyou, I have be watching all these fandangle trainers.
You explained it perfectly.
Now I understand ❤
Omg I’ve watched 100 videos and FINALLY someone who tells me exactly what to do with my legs and body!!! Ty so so much!!
Great explanation of the body mechanics for the rider.
Thank you for the most detailed explanation of the side pass that I have ever seen.
Greetings from Jackson, WY - Really appreciate your subtle tips and emphasis on REAL horsemanship.
i appreciate the simple direct instruction. i also appreciate the tack holder tip at the end .
The cricket rolling under the tail! Where do you come up with this stuff, Pat??? You're on fire in this video!
For some reason I am not always getting a notification on the day that you post Mrs. Deb. I do still get them though, usually the next day. I really enjoy listening and learning from that funny old man you are hanging out with, ha ha. Happy belated birthday Mr. Pat. Thank you both for the effort that you put into teaching and entertaining us. For this channel, a Like button is not enough. It needs a Love button.
Western Kentucky
I don’t know why you aren’t getting your notifications right away. I’m assuming you pressed that little bell button for notifications? Maybe unpress it and then press it again?
@@PatnDebPuckett I will try that. Yout_be has turned into cyber police and nothing seems to work like it did. Especially the political channel I follow.
Some of the things you say are so obvious I've been missing them for years. Sometimes I need the gentle reminder as well. Two of my take always from this video include the following. "The horse is searching." "Don't tip the head." When I first learned to side pass a horse I was told to tip the head away from the direction of travel. As you pointed out in the video that causes the horse to move its hind end. I've struggle with this for many years. I'm anxious to try this the way you said. Thanks for another great video.
Tipping the head away from the direction of travel is a leg yield, it's also foward and diagonal movement.
Yay I tried it today, thank you 🙏… loose rein, body straight, look, add leg , one step rest breathe… try again it went so well ! 🙏
On my way now to try the bit under the tail of my wife's horse . Thanks for the advice !
Let us know if the cricket spins......
You be sure to let us know how that works out for you...... from the hospital bed ! 😊
@@kengamble8595 lol!
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge. I am really working on quieting my hands and having proper body control.
What a great idea PAt!! With the leather piece to prevent a hang up!!! You offer lots of great ideas!
"Push the subscription button,number, something."😂. Made my day ha. Good video!
Thank you for uploading frequently.
Thank you, I learned something...... One more thought, I've learned more from horses than I have given . Why are they so patience with us ???
Thanks again for the wisdom. And I’m assuming Deb does all the production work, so especially thanks to you. The thought of Pat editing videos puts a grin on my face.
You are a great trainer!
'I think it's becoming obvious that you're going to have to actually ride'....love this!!!! I'm learning to ride western after years of English and just trail riding sitting there doing nothing with the horse just following. I love learning Western and controlling the horse's body. Thank you for this video as I forgot if I had to tip the nose or not. I'll check at my next lesson what my instructor says!
I love the dry humour and I am learning a lot. So glad I found you. I live in the south of Spain
Be a fair leader. The best advice, thank you. I know we just met, but I like it 😜😂😎
Thanks for sharing your knowledge Pat.
I Just discovered your videos. Love your training philosophy. I am so tired of seeing over bridled training. This obsession with pivoting and backing hard and fast. All done with really low over tucked heads. Ridiculous. You are a true horseman.
Best rein control for a side pass I’ve seen.
I learn heaps from watching videos like these. But especially yours Pat and Deb 🙌😊. I am from Australia and I ride a 15.2hh, 10 year old OTTTB mare. She wasn't re-educated properly cause she leans on the bit at canter. This is partly the reason why I can't canter. So I am still a novice rider for now 😢 but oh well.
What part of Australia? We’re flying over in about a week and will be in Victoria and South Australia... www.thedisciplinedride.com/schedule
Pat, you my friend are a good instructor. The words you choose, the directions that you give cannot be miss understood. We all can learn things from a horse that has not been given a fair deal. You are 1000% correct about release. Release is a sugar lump too that horse and he responds way faster too a treat like RELEASE. It shows how respectful a man you are with a animal. Thanks you are a blast to listen to and watch. Your the best. You and I have both had good teachers. It is amazing what the animal teaches us. They are all different. God bless the honesty that you teach with as well.
So valuable .. thanks for sharing your nuggets of gold yes please keep being redundant I need it my hands a getting better . .. slowly -
Who did you get those rasps from? 😜 Thank you for explaining how and what it should look like when you take pressure off with your leg. We are told that a lot and most people (me included!) thought that meant the exaggerated movement of sticking your leg out. Which is completely impractical for working cattle. Again, thank you for these videos! I share them with my family when I can! Happy Trails!
Good job, as always, very helpfull, and clear, Thankyou
Hi Pat! Absolutely love all of your videos! I find them so inspiring and refreshing. I really hope to one day make your acquaintance. Regards from South Africa!☆
Horses are sensitive people are not, well said, awesome vlogs, hello from New Zealand.
George Pengelly I don’t know ..people seems to get their “ feels” hurt a lot..August 2020
Love watching your videos. You are a wealth of knowledge and thank you for sharing!
Thanks for all the great work Pat and Deb
Your old bud Kurt Ilgen Sheridan Wyoming
I liked your all videos
Been going back and watching some of your earlier videos like this one while we are still iced in up here. My round pen is thawed enough to use again so it won't be long until riding season gets under way again full steam but I wanted to say THANK YOU! for telling people not to tip the nose when you side pass on a working horse. That is a show ring thing, like drilling a hole in a spin is, and it(nose tipped side passing) is a big nuisance habit in a working horse when they tip their nose and or bend in a U-shape and can't see where they are going or what you are trying to accomplish work wise. Plus it make their hind end angle all wrong for actually getting anything done until they have straightened out. I would much rather work with a horse that doesn't know how to side pass then one who has the nose tipping habit trained into them.
Love these videos! Wish I had learned from someone like you all !
That’s the best looking horse he has he’s beautiful
I'd enjoy hearing Pat talk about Taps; what, why, how, etc... Thank you both from Houston, TX
-Mike
Great love step by step instructions and illustrations. Linda In OKLA city.
you explain it so well. thank you
Very Good Schooling for anyone . Thanks so much. Really Cool use for a wore out wrasp.
Great find. Love this man
" Thank-You Pat !! .... I love Your work." .... Vaya Con Dios !
Lol I love the ending, I like the way you use the fence I’m going to have to try it for myself thanks
Pat, I love the metaphor “17 reasons I do this is because I don’t like smoking ribs”. 👍🏻🇺🇸
Excellent, thank you!!!
I have a lot of training to do. Going cross country someday on horseback. Call it my bucket list.
You make me understand thank you
Super good instruction-
Great 👍 anyone can see you’ve invested lots of time, curious if you’re familiar with Manuel campos out of San Diego?
We haven’t met Manuel Campo but we hope to some day.
I notice you didn't comment about the front end moving, then the back end moving, etc. I get it, that the horse is just figuring this out, so you allow some loose movements. When camera was on your right - moving left - I could clearly see your legs. Didn't seem to move from center barrel, bump bump bump. If my horse swings his butt out, I correct by moving my leg back & bumping a little, to straighten him out. Is this correct in your opinion? Just received your Let's Dance DVD, btw. Looking forward to viewing it. Laurie
You can move your leg back to correct the hindquarters but never move your leg forward of the cinch to correct the forehand.
"for those who know geometry.. I am going around the curves because it's a round pen"
Deb, what can be done for a horse with a bad "barn buddy" problem. I am having a hard time getting through to one and getting him to focus on his job without him worried about what the rest of the herd is doing.
I personally find that if I can get my horse’s feet moving at a high trot over questionable terrain, it forces him to make some tough choices about where his mind should be. Whereas if I creep around at a walk, it gives him all kinds of time to fall in to sin. Of course, this is all cheap talk from here!
If you can set it up, working your horse in their home and around their buddies can help. Make being around their buddies just another job. Then they may not like being with them so well. Work them until they want to leave their buddies willingly. Depending on the horse I have found working your horse in their home at the beginning of your ride and at the end of your ride can help. At the beginning until your horse leaves willingly and at the end if your horse isn't with you coming home. Near the end of the ride, work them at them at home, ask them to leave willingly and see if they come back home with you. If they do then you can go ahead, cool them out and hang them. You might have to try this routine for awhile depending on the horse.
Charlie Peters, Clinton Anderson Down Under Horsemanship has a great youtube video for 'working' your horse around the other horses or barn, etc. Gives you a good idea of how hard to work them. Remember that one session won't be enough when a horse has a bad habit. If you can work them every single ride for many rides in a row (5? 10?) they will at some point make the connection you want.
I'd like to know what you think about SLOW HAY FEEDERS for stall horses.
1909video It depends on what you mean by “stall.” If you mean a 12 x 12 enclosed space, there is nothing you can do to occupy an animal that is made to travel long distances in that small of a space. It would be like having you stand all day in a closet with nothing to do but pry your food through a grate. We avoid a whole lot of problems, from physical to psychological, by running our mares all together and our geldings all together in large corrals or turn outs whenever possible. That way they are able to form natural herd relationships, move around a larger area, and avoid boredom and frustration. At the very least, we provide a large corral. So there you have it. Don’t put horses in stalls and you won’t need a slow feeder.
Hi Pat what size is that wade saddle ? Looks like 15 1/2"..
Nice rope hangers at the end. Great way to use up old junk.
What’s the name of that transition/colt starting bit and where would the best place to buy one be?
You can buy a Missing Link Snaffle on our website www.thedisciplinedride.com . If you order now, you will receive your bit in early September. Thank you for the question!
Hi Pat, how can I get some cricket bits
You can buy one on our website www.thedisciplinedride.com/store . Thank you!
Thank you
👍👍
Do you ever have a problem with them freaking out and rearing up when you have them nosed up against the panels like that and are asking them to move sideways?
No. Pat would never ask a horse with that mental attitude to do that. Also Pat has the timing of not pushing them too much into the fence.
@@PatnDebPuckett Thank you for the response!
😆😉! Great video!
if you don't know Gil Favor ,,, you ain't no Cowboy 🤠
If possible ,and you will,love to see ,Halter
training ,Both with an untouched 2 or 3 year old and a Weanling !
Thank you !!!
Well dale yeah
bukaroo police hahhahah, penso que eles existem de fato na internet.
👍🏼
Great, Robert Boggs
Under the tail...that is where a lot of riders heads are...no room for that bit!
Keep ‘me coming
Excuse me...perfect.
I know Mr Favors 🤠 head em up move em out
Breaking at the third vertebrae is bad will put her behind the bit eventually saw back and worse scenario kissing spine.
Only if the horse is ridden behind the vertical. We like our horses to carry themselves with their heads a few degrees ahead of vertical in a more natural carriage.
Under the tail haha
Gill favour raw hide
It's just too cryptic.
Rawhide. Gil Favor 👍 I've watched all of those episodes 😂