Not really once you know your boss you can work them to do what you want while you spin your plates.... It is really the system wide culture and the lousy pay. Mostly it is the money really. Americans have a toxic culture that exploits workers.
I have a manager who said a few times: "I don't care if you leave, I'll have no problem finding a replacement". I don't think any "leader", as she identifies herself, should ever tell their staff this. It's no surprise some of us are headed for the exit.
All very good relevant points. One big one you missed is jealous and nasty coworkers. When you are competent, focused on your work and proactive, the other employees hate it because it shows how lazy and incompetent they are. The knives come out eventually. Many leaders won't do anything to stop it.
You know what, about 8 years ago I´ve asked that same thing to a PM, his exactly words was "I´m not in a position to tell you what you have to do". I´ve left the company a couple of months later...
The big one now and for the past year and a half is the pushing for return to the office after remote work. People who were able to complete all tasks from home with no commute time and expense like it. Force them back to the office and more often than not, they'll quit and go somewhere else without the edict.
Well, there's a worthwhile debate here. People are actually most engaged and most productive when they're collaborating in person at least some of the time. The big problem, as I see it, is that the call to return took autonomy away from those same workers and didn't make return their choice...they made it required.
I put in my two week notice last week. This are all the reasons I left my 18year career. I reach the peak and at my greatest year in sales. I never felt appreciated and I didn’t feel like my manager had my back. He never taught me anything or cared about my concerns and want to help me grow. He jokingly make comments demanding better results but I don’t think he even knew how to get them himself. He was not a leader and just practicing mediocrity. To all managers if you could just care enough to ask how was your weekend and say thank you and act like you care you will get better results.
CEO shakes my hand saying how happy he and customers are with my efforts in my job. He said he was going to make sure I get more money.That was in my second month of employment. 8 months later and never saw a raise or review. Nothing. I still give the same high level of effort but feel bitter and looking to go to another employer asap. So,another reason great employees quit is because employer is lying and setting up false hopes and being deceptive.
Makes sense to me. The human shield illustration reminded me of the movie quote from 300. “Persian: A thousand nations of the Persian empire descend upon you. Our arrows will blot out the sun! Stelios: Then we will fight in the shade.” 🛡
My department head was dumbfounded when I pointed to sign-on bonuses as a sign of discontent and high turnover. “We pay six month and annual bonuses, too!” If you have to give people bonuses for not quitting you’re doing something wrong. I suggested that the money might be better spent equipping us to do our jobs well rather than merely adequately. Hardware, software, training. Cheaper and gives the message that the quality of our work actually matters.
@@DavidBurkus They give us an iPad mini for a job that requires a lot of typing -- and referring back and forth to other documents while you type. If we want a bluetooth keyboard we have to buy it ourselves. It's like giving somebody a hot plate and a toaster oven and wanting them to cook Thanksgiving dinner. Instead of that $1,000 sign-on bonus, provide an $800 laptop. Savings of $200 and the person will be equipped to do the job well rather than just marginally. And the message you give will be "We provide you with what you need" rather than "Thank God we have another drone on board!"
Refusing to address bad middle manager-hiring is what’s costing them. Top management suffers from this ailment it seems like, at every single workplace.
The problem is that companies want workers who will commit themselves and be loyal…..but Ive yet to work for a company that wants to give that back to their employee. They don’t even see us as human. We are numbers, that make numbers so that the higher ups can take more fancy holidays and buy designer bags….while we have 3 roommates in our 30’s because we can’t afford to live.
What can be done when the employer simply doesn’t care? He’s highly narcissistic. That’s why I’m looking for a different job. My co-workers are in a less flexible situation and can’t easily find a better place to work.
I'd look for a different job. It might just be what your coworkers need too. Sometimes one talented person leaving can be the trigger for a leader to change their behavior.
My last job at Krogers hired me in as a Part Timer tried to force me to go full time and I said no multiple times. Then they tried to threaten me for not working past my shift and they would deny my request all the way up to them laying me off with no hours. I'm going to try to get unemployment this year but I don't know if it will happen with how hard it is to get in Ohio.
@@DavidBurkus This is an example of why so many of us are done with working. Most of us has been dealing with these kinds of games from a lot of the bigger corporations. You wonder why they can't find people.
LOL. Well only about 4% of the population are sociopaths...so I doubt that's totally true. THAT said, there is some interesting research on how giving people power makes them more selfish.
@@DavidBurkus On the contrary, it's actually fair enough. After all, you haven't even heard what she said to _me_ , to my face. My boss was upset I had signed up for a one-person shift. I'll admit I'm kind of a slow learner and do much better with a helping hand and guide, but come on, that's no excuse for being insensitive. One of our student leader's responsibilities is organizing who works which shifts on the schedule, and my boss scolded him for not noticing I had signed up for a one-person shift. When she asked him if she thought I could do the shift, I answered for him with a firm "yes," because I felt belittled by her. She said she didn't think so, was all _"I've told you not to sign up for shifts by yourself, I've been very clear about that, I don't know how much clearer I can get for you to listen"_ (something like that, so I'm not perfectly quoting her), and she told me I need someone there to give me instructions and guide me. I regretfully didn't stand up for myself, because I was intimidated. So by that standard, you can't call it unfair for me to say something nasty about her, like... ...it's ironic she works and manages a lot of wedding receptions, because despite her knowledge and experience, she has never actually had a wedding reception of her own, and she ain't gonna
The best way to retain good employees is to get rid of bad managers.
100%
Yes
Preach!
Not really once you know your boss you can work them to do what you want while you spin your plates.... It is really the system wide culture and the lousy pay. Mostly it is the money really. Americans have a toxic culture that exploits workers.
I have a manager who said a few times: "I don't care if you leave, I'll have no problem finding a replacement". I don't think any "leader", as she identifies herself, should ever tell their staff this. It's no surprise some of us are headed for the exit.
I agree. And the irony is that right now she will have a huge problem finding a replacement.
My last regional manager said pretty much the same thing. About 1/3 of the staff left within 6 months, including myself.
That's no leader. She's a boss. Leaders don't say things like that.
All very good relevant points. One big one you missed is jealous and nasty coworkers. When you are competent, focused on your work and proactive, the other employees hate it because it shows how lazy and incompetent they are. The knives come out eventually. Many leaders won't do anything to stop it.
That's a good point. I blame the leader in those cases for the same reason you suggest.
Great, timely video.
I love the “ask what you want me to stop working on”. This is a great way to open other peoples eyes.
Thanks so much Mike!
You know what, about 8 years ago I´ve asked that same thing to a PM, his exactly words was "I´m not in a position to tell you what you have to do". I´ve left the company a couple of months later...
The big one now and for the past year and a half is the pushing for return to the office after remote work.
People who were able to complete all tasks from home with no commute time and expense like it.
Force them back to the office and more often than not, they'll quit and go somewhere else without the edict.
Well, there's a worthwhile debate here. People are actually most engaged and most productive when they're collaborating in person at least some of the time. The big problem, as I see it, is that the call to return took autonomy away from those same workers and didn't make return their choice...they made it required.
I put in my two week notice last week. This are all the reasons I left my 18year career. I reach the peak and at my greatest year in sales. I never felt appreciated and I didn’t feel like my manager had my back. He never taught me anything or cared about my concerns and want to help me grow. He jokingly make comments demanding better results but I don’t think he even knew how to get them himself. He was not a leader and just practicing mediocrity. To all managers if you could just care enough to ask how was your weekend and say thank you and act like you care you will get better results.
Ugh. Sorry that happened to you.
Working a few years later, I realized that my manager was competing with me.
Yeah. That's a good reason to quit.
Yep, you don’t leave a job but a bad boss.
Totally.
CEO shakes my hand saying how happy he and customers are with my efforts in my job. He said he was going to make sure I get more money.That was in my second month of employment. 8 months later and never saw a raise or review. Nothing. I still give the same high level of effort but feel bitter and looking to go to another employer asap. So,another reason great employees quit is because employer is lying and setting up false hopes and being deceptive.
Sorry to hear that.
@@DavidBurkusAll good. I really enjoyed your content. Thx
Especially when there is so much problems and gossip and all around toxic environment in the job and when the managers know it and they let it happen
Totally.
Makes sense to me. The human shield illustration reminded me of the movie quote from 300. “Persian: A thousand nations of the Persian empire descend upon you. Our arrows will blot out the sun! Stelios: Then we will fight in the shade.” 🛡
LOL. Love that line. Thanks so much.
My department head was dumbfounded when I pointed to sign-on bonuses as a sign of discontent and high turnover. “We pay six month and annual bonuses, too!” If you have to give people bonuses for not quitting you’re doing something wrong. I suggested that the money might be better spent equipping us to do our jobs well rather than merely adequately. Hardware, software, training. Cheaper and gives the message that the quality of our work actually matters.
Totally. Or…you know….raising your salary by the equivalent of the bonuses.
@@DavidBurkus They give us an iPad mini for a job that requires a lot of typing -- and referring back and forth to other documents while you type. If we want a bluetooth keyboard we have to buy it ourselves. It's like giving somebody a hot plate and a toaster oven and wanting them to cook Thanksgiving dinner. Instead of that $1,000 sign-on bonus, provide an $800 laptop. Savings of $200 and the person will be equipped to do the job well rather than just marginally. And the message you give will be "We provide you with what you need" rather than "Thank God we have another drone on board!"
Oh. I see what you mean.
Refusing to address bad middle manager-hiring is what’s costing them. Top management suffers from this ailment it seems like, at every single workplace.
The problem is that companies want workers who will commit themselves and be loyal…..but Ive yet to work for a company that wants to give that back to their employee. They don’t even see us as human. We are numbers, that make numbers so that the higher ups can take more fancy holidays and buy designer bags….while we have 3 roommates in our 30’s because we can’t afford to live.
There are a few but they’re fewer and farer between.
Great content. You have covered a great deal of the Why people leave. Thanks for Sharing 👍
Thanks for watching!
What can be done when the employer simply doesn’t care? He’s highly narcissistic. That’s why I’m looking for a different job. My co-workers are in a less flexible situation and can’t easily find a better place to work.
I'd look for a different job. It might just be what your coworkers need too. Sometimes one talented person leaving can be the trigger for a leader to change their behavior.
Best video I have found on this subject hands down. Thank you
Thanks so much!
Great short video with great information!
Thanks so much. Glad you found it helpful!
My last job at Krogers hired me in as a Part Timer tried to force me to go full time and I said no multiple times. Then they tried to threaten me for not working past my shift and they would deny my request all the way up to them laying me off with no hours. I'm going to try to get unemployment this year but I don't know if it will happen with how hard it is to get in Ohio.
So sorry to hear that. Madness.
@@DavidBurkus This is an example of why so many of us are done with working. Most of us has been dealing with these kinds of games from a lot of the bigger corporations. You wonder why they can't find people.
@@supaipai420 How do you support yourself if you’re “done with working”?
Because most bosses are sociopaths
LOL. Well only about 4% of the population are sociopaths...so I doubt that's totally true. THAT said, there is some interesting research on how giving people power makes them more selfish.
The hard part is finding a new employer that pays the same as the current employer.
True. But if you’re qualified there’s a lot of companies desperate to hire.
My lousy, condescending boss. No wonder she lives in her own apartment and has never been married before
Yikes. Bad bosses are definitely a primary drive of good employees quitting. But as angry as you are, no need to delve into the personal attacks.
@@DavidBurkus On the contrary, it's actually fair enough. After all, you haven't even heard what she said to _me_ , to my face. My boss was upset I had signed up for a one-person shift. I'll admit I'm kind of a slow learner and do much better with a helping hand and guide, but come on, that's no excuse for being insensitive. One of our student leader's responsibilities is organizing who works which shifts on the schedule, and my boss scolded him for not noticing I had signed up for a one-person shift. When she asked him if she thought I could do the shift, I answered for him with a firm "yes," because I felt belittled by her. She said she didn't think so, was all _"I've told you not to sign up for shifts by yourself, I've been very clear about that, I don't know how much clearer I can get for you to listen"_ (something like that, so I'm not perfectly quoting her), and she told me I need someone there to give me instructions and guide me. I regretfully didn't stand up for myself, because I was intimidated.
So by that standard, you can't call it unfair for me to say something nasty about her, like...
...it's ironic she works and manages a lot of wedding receptions, because despite her knowledge and experience, she has never actually had a wedding reception of her own, and she ain't gonna
@@johnrainsman6650you sound as bad as her...get a life dude