Bach - Violin Sonata No. 3 in C Major, BWV 1005 {Grumiaux}

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  • @vishshaddarsanam2698
    @vishshaddarsanam2698 4 года назад +115

    My God, that Fugue. What Bach could get out of a violin is mind boggling

  • @criticalhippo4294
    @criticalhippo4294 4 года назад +165

    It's amazing he makes C major so longing and sad. Truly the king of tonality.

  • @rishikde5346
    @rishikde5346 2 года назад +19

    It is amazing that the fugue is even possible on the violin. It was so beautiful.

  • @lawrenceb1879
    @lawrenceb1879 5 лет назад +184

    Sonata for solo violin No. 3 in C major, BWV 1005 (1720)
    I. Adagio 0:00
    II. Fuga. Alla breve 4:09
    III. Largo 14:55
    IV. Allegro assai 17:54

  • @violin245
    @violin245 Год назад +3

    This is Bach at his best

  • @anjskaya8754
    @anjskaya8754 5 лет назад +38

    BACH … no more needed to say really..., but, it is my favorite and the most beautiful piece of music that have ever been written for Violin, deep, - the one that brings forgiveness, sorrow, happiness, and enlightment. Thank you Heaves for Bach

    • @susannestechow1009
      @susannestechow1009 3 года назад +1

      The start of the fugue reminds me on the German spiritual church song "Come Holy Spirit", the German text is written by Martin Luther.

    • @EarlJoseph-violinist
      @EarlJoseph-violinist 2 года назад

      Yes, you are right. This Sonata is supposedly meant to be a Pentecostal piece, wheareas the first Sonata is for Christmas and the second one for Passion/Easter.

    • @alixx_legenddark_xx2819
      @alixx_legenddark_xx2819 Год назад +1

      @@EarlJoseph-violinist really? The 1st sonata sounds sad and melancholic. Adagio is depressing because it’s, well, adagio. Fugue is more catchy but a bit melancholic, maybe because it’s in G minor. Siciliano is like fugue, but slower, and presto doesn’t sound like Christmas at all.
      You can disagree with me, this is not objective, and all my opinion, but I am curious as to where you got this from, and would like to know the authenticity of this.

    • @EarlJoseph-violinist
      @EarlJoseph-violinist Год назад +1

      @@alixx_legenddark_xx2819 thank you for your reply. It is from a study by Helga Thoene.
      Infact, if you check out the context of Christmas, It could also be considered as something painful, that God himself had to be born as a human for the sake of humanity. The supporting thesis was the citation of a Christmas cantata. What's also interesting is the use ofe the key signature. It could be thought in Dorian key which again has a positiver context as the later minor key.

  • @mintchoco5640
    @mintchoco5640 7 месяцев назад +2

    Wonderful voicing in the fugue by Grumiaux

  • @Steinbach1984
    @Steinbach1984 5 лет назад +35

    The fugue is surely the most ambitious movement Bach wrote for violin solo, along with the D minor Chaconne. But whereas the chaconne is true violin music, the fugue often seems to shout "I am an organ piece!" For the record, it really sounds great on the organ, with more than a few notes added or doubled.

    • @bartjebartmans
      @bartjebartmans  5 лет назад +18

      Everything Bach wrote sounds good on any instrument. None seem to be specific for one. You pretty much can sing them easily as well, look at the Swingle Singers for instance.

    • @MistériosdaMeiaNoite7
      @MistériosdaMeiaNoite7 Год назад

      ​@@bartjebartmansDetonou

  • @roycezaro1998
    @roycezaro1998 7 лет назад +96

    Sure just nonchalantly write one of only a few four-part double fugues for unaccompanied violin into your sonata. Piece of cake!

    • @johannsebastianbach5223
      @johannsebastianbach5223 5 лет назад +21

      Yes, I can do that!

    • @San-lh8us
      @San-lh8us 4 года назад +5

      @@johannsebastianbach5223 yes, YOU can

    • @henrykwieniawski7233
      @henrykwieniawski7233 3 года назад +9

      And that four-part stretto at 8:12... this is why I adore Bach!

    • @roycezaro1998
      @roycezaro1998 3 года назад +6

      @@henrykwieniawski7233 Amazing how he writes it so cleanly that you can hear notes that aren't even played! I swear... I cry every time. This is truly one of his greatest masterworks, and a miracle of music.

  • @bossalicious6821
    @bossalicious6821 6 лет назад +96

    4:10 beginning of fugue "♬London bridge is falling down♬" I know that song!

  • @gonzalo4658
    @gonzalo4658 3 года назад +17

    You can count on bach to write a piece this long for one violin

  • @BarroqueSpirit
    @BarroqueSpirit 7 лет назад +19

    Jamás se tocó el violín de manera más maravillosa!!!! Genio Grumiaux y Genio Bach!!!!

    • @carlospirs
      @carlospirs 3 года назад +1

      Nadie toca Bach como Grumiaux, el mejor :)

  • @davidrehak3539
    @davidrehak3539 5 лет назад +13

    Johann Sebastian Bach:3.C-dúr Hegedűszonáta BWV 1005
    1.Adagio 00:05
    2.Fúga:Alla breve 04:11
    3.Largo 14:57
    4.Allegro assai 17:55
    Arthur Grumiaux-hegedű

    • @susannestechow1009
      @susannestechow1009 3 года назад +1

      Thanks for the information that Grumiaux is playing here.

  • @bekahjoy6600
    @bekahjoy6600 7 лет назад +36

    Playing this would be a bitch, but it sounds so wonderful...

    • @jert4008
      @jert4008 3 года назад +5

      Yeah, hearing and playing Bach are very different experiences

  • @Tommybean7
    @Tommybean7 5 месяцев назад +1

    Wow, thank you for this upload!

  • @TheDilshanM
    @TheDilshanM Год назад +3

    17:55 all time favorite ❤❤ Allegro assai

  • @Jackson_Blagg
    @Jackson_Blagg 3 года назад +1

    I love your commentary in the description

  • @G12GilbertProduction
    @G12GilbertProduction 6 лет назад +6

    Quintesence of noble poliphony!

  • @etsumi-nansen
    @etsumi-nansen 6 месяцев назад +1

    Very nice!

  • @Berlinchesmusic
    @Berlinchesmusic 3 года назад +6

    Pura perfección

  • @victorgustavo4366
    @victorgustavo4366 5 лет назад +6

    Este Adagio é formidável.

    • @niccolopaganini9265
      @niccolopaganini9265 5 лет назад

      Principalmente o allegro assai. Hilary Hahn nesse movimento é lindo.

  • @manoochehrgarshasebi1193
    @manoochehrgarshasebi1193 6 лет назад +6

    I love.

  • @rishikde5346
    @rishikde5346 2 года назад +8

    The fugue almost sounds like two different violins.

  • @danieleoliveira949
    @danieleoliveira949 7 лет назад +11

    Maravilhoso!

  • @Someone2464-
    @Someone2464- Год назад +4

    Bach be like half my kids are dead and I m going blind.Let me a sonata in the most beautiful and sublime key, piece that represents my sadness

  • @tak_1202
    @tak_1202 Год назад +2

    How can one have the endurance to play difficult chords for so long and so fast?

  • @treewalker1070
    @treewalker1070 5 лет назад +4

    The Fuga Alla breve seems to quote from the Canzona in D minor for organ.

  • @orpheus2883
    @orpheus2883 7 лет назад +7

    Fuga at 4:10 - 14:53
    9:42
    17:55

  • @Nicholas-cq1nv
    @Nicholas-cq1nv Год назад +2

    Never knew stretto was possible on the violin

  • @RazvanFilipCipca
    @RazvanFilipCipca Год назад +3

    Could anyone please explain the last few bars of the fugue at around 14:42? What kind of progression is that, starting from that Ab major chord. Is the next chord F# diminished? Is this something common in baroque? I am asking because I am quite a noob regarding baroque music and I would love some help.

    • @thelostartofcounterpoint8648
      @thelostartofcounterpoint8648 Год назад +5

      Yes and no. Bach doesn't think in chords. Today we interpret this progression as Ab major, F#dim7, G/C, G7, C. But this music is in essence polyphonic. The bassline e.g. is Ab, A, G, C. The upper melodic line could be heard e.g. as C, F#, G, G. All these horizontal layers together form the "chords" we hear when we listen vertically to this music.

  • @officaldungeons
    @officaldungeons 4 года назад +1

    I wholeheartedly disagree with the final cadence of the first movement, it’s so insanely perfect but just sounds so wrong to me. We’ll never know how this man knew so much and knew how to write so immaculately.

  • @jefflokanata
    @jefflokanata 3 года назад +9

    now i know how to make fugue on theme of "London Bridge is falling down" in the solo violin

    • @sherlockhomo-ph4su
      @sherlockhomo-ph4su 2 месяца назад

      That's the first thought I ever had when I first listened to this years ago.

  • @BetaAxolotl
    @BetaAxolotl Месяц назад +3

    who else came from twoset lol

  • @SinanAkkoyun
    @SinanAkkoyun 5 лет назад +35

    So you want to play a fugue?

    • @kianista5423
      @kianista5423 4 года назад +5

      Glenn Gould?

    • @SinanAkkoyun
      @SinanAkkoyun 4 года назад +4

      @@kianista5423 I think. I don't know what I meant a year ago

    • @kianista5423
      @kianista5423 4 года назад +2

      @@SinanAkkoyun oh haha, no problem

    • @lordzamer2961
      @lordzamer2961 3 года назад +1

      @@SinanAkkoyun now?

    • @SinanAkkoyun
      @SinanAkkoyun 3 года назад

      @@lordzamer2961 Please

  • @Nicola-s8m
    @Nicola-s8m Месяц назад

    London Bridge, difficult?

  • @patthewoodboy
    @patthewoodboy 5 лет назад +1

    can I hear Vaughan williams ?

  • @miguelangelvallory1563
    @miguelangelvallory1563 3 года назад +2

    Who can play all as Groumiax ?

  • @rishikde5346
    @rishikde5346 2 года назад

    In the largo, the 16th notes sound like eighth notes.

  • @ruthou
    @ruthou 6 лет назад +1

    14:56

  • @bencze53
    @bencze53 7 лет назад +2

    14.56

  • @TheGloryofMusic
    @TheGloryofMusic 7 лет назад +11

    Bach was the consummate practical musician and almost always respected the limitations of the instruments--with the exception of the solo violin works, which are certainly awkward to execute, and the triple and quadruple stops can sound ugly. C.P.E. reported that his father liked to play the sonatas and partitas on the clavichord, where he could fill out the harmony and counterpoint (and the organ 'fiddle' fugue is certainly superior to the solo violin version). I like to hear Hopkinson Smith's transcriptions for lute, as here: ruclips.net/video/i89lf9iA_u0/видео.html

    • @bartjebartmans
      @bartjebartmans  7 лет назад +25

      According to C.P.E Bach, J.S. played these works effortlessly and with a firm hand. To compare an organ fugue with a violin fugue is ridiculous.

    • @agentman1998
      @agentman1998 7 лет назад +3

      Bartje Bartmans Quite right!!

    • @anasofiapeixotoantaosousadias
      @anasofiapeixotoantaosousadias 6 лет назад +5

      I totally disagree. It seems to me that you are not fond of violin sound and you do not know the art of playing the violin. Both the partitas and the sonatas were created by Bach for the violin. Of course there are adaptations, one of which Bach himself did, as you say, but if you listen with the depth of your soul you will see that they are not comparable and for me the organ part is inferior to the Fuga of the first sonata. Despite this, it is clear that their harmony is present, although not fulfilled. With all due respect to the genius of Bach, considering both pieces of music, I dare to write that he wasn't who transcribe it because of its lack of depth and its simplistic mode. It is not a trademark of his organ music pieces and leaves much to be desired, which does not happen in the original version for violin.

    • @SimonStreuffViolinEducation
      @SimonStreuffViolinEducation 5 лет назад +7

      I think J.S. Bach was just so damn good, that he expanded the limitations at some points. And don't judge such a work by a recording only. Recording the sound of a violin, especially big chords is not easy. Listening to it live in a great hall or church is what it is meant to be! Still it takes a good player to play that fugue!

    • @calebhu6383
      @calebhu6383 5 лет назад +4

      The bows in Bach's time were very different and curved in a fashion that quadruple stops were much easier.

  • @DelsinM
    @DelsinM 4 года назад

    Does anyone know how to find the Clavier version of this piece?

    • @susannestechow1009
      @susannestechow1009 3 года назад +2

      Here on You Tube there is a really very fine version for two pianos, of the Adagio and the Fugue. More I do not want to tell. Please put in: Adagio and Fugue in C major BWV 2005 version for two pianos, and you can get it.

    • @ruperttmls7985
      @ruperttmls7985 2 года назад

      Aquí tienes:
      ruclips.net/video/_JmNIjVVYfc/видео.html

  • @andrian007
    @andrian007 4 года назад +1

    Daft question, if this is meant to be sonata in C Major, why is Largo in D Minor?

    • @metanano359
      @metanano359 4 года назад +7

      It's F major. It's because they wrote movements like that in the subdominant

    • @omnomchomsky
      @omnomchomsky 3 года назад +6

      @@metanano359 To add to this; the finality of the Fuga makes it seem wrong to start the next movement in the same key. Thus the break in F major for breathing room before the finale. It works so brilliantly too because the Allegro at the end, which sounds rather playful on its own, becomes more of a 'trial to triumph' at the end of such an immense sonata and it just so happens to be as its sounds. It's quite the task to play this work on any instrument.

    • @susannestechow1009
      @susannestechow1009 3 года назад +1

      That is F major, the subdominante. Yes, I agree to Vish S.

    • @susannestechow1009
      @susannestechow1009 3 года назад +1

      @@metanano359 Yes, exactly.

  • @calebhu6383
    @calebhu6383 3 года назад

    4:11

  • @hhj1178
    @hhj1178 3 года назад

    17:54

  • @12semitones57
    @12semitones57 7 лет назад +5

    Am I the only one who thinks the end chord in the fugue is weird?

    • @solstice871
      @solstice871 6 лет назад +13

      Ryan Truong If may sound strange because although the ending chord is a C major chord, which is appropriate for the ending, the top note is a G, which is the 5th note of a C major chord and not the root which is C. This creates an "unfinished" sort of feeling, but it makes sense as the fugue is supposed to go directly into the next movement.

    • @anasofiapeixotoantaosousadias
      @anasofiapeixotoantaosousadias 6 лет назад +9

      The end chord in te fugue is perfect.

    • @hugoclarke3284
      @hugoclarke3284 4 года назад

      The ending chord itself is not unusual, but the preceding chord would naturally lead to having C as the top note. I think the reason is as Sol Kim describes, given that this is not the final movement, but also the way the violin is played to have these open chords and perfect 4th/5th intervals (I'm not sure if that's because it's easier to play or out of aesthetic taste).

  • @pulsar2049
    @pulsar2049 2 года назад +2

    "C major is easy lol"

  • @pand9293
    @pand9293 5 лет назад +6

    He puts vibrato in every note. that's too much,

    • @rychardfeynman6055
      @rychardfeynman6055 5 лет назад +9

      It's not. Your fingers should constantly have a bit of an vibrato especially in adagio parts/slow parts

    • @guerrero4982
      @guerrero4982 5 лет назад +7

      @@rychardfeynman6055 Not necessarily it just comes down to preference.

    • @cienciandre
      @cienciandre 4 года назад

      @@johncanthearyou E X A C T L Y

    • @hugoclarke3284
      @hugoclarke3284 4 года назад +1

      I love the fact that he plays with vibrato, baroque musicians did use this technique, but I agree that sometimes he overdoes it. Still by far the best Bach solo violinist I've ever heard. Captivating, rich, alive.

    • @nocturnallsnake4228
      @nocturnallsnake4228 4 года назад +1

      Vibrato is used to add more "sound".

  • @RoryRenee24
    @RoryRenee24 5 лет назад +11

    17:55

  • @usee5669
    @usee5669 2 года назад

    14:50

  • @billy7951
    @billy7951 5 лет назад +2

    14:55

  • @davydyasinskyi5154
    @davydyasinskyi5154 5 лет назад +1

    14:55

  • @duskk7743
    @duskk7743 3 года назад +1

    17:54

  • @ostromogilskaiamaria5268
    @ostromogilskaiamaria5268 2 года назад

    14:57