So, the thing with DID is there's no 'real' personality. Every personality, including the host, is an alter. There may well be one that's been around the longest, who may also be the host and who uses their legal name, but they're an alter just as much as any other.
In a hilarious twist of irony, The Panda Redd, self described as flour on the spice rack of neurodivergency, did the most ADHD thing and dropped the project mid-month during NEURODIVERGENT MONTH. (This is me joking I find this fucking hilarious and I know he didnt do it on purpose. I do the same thing way too often)
I've heard several times that Spidey, especially Tom Holland's version, is ADHD coded. Which is probably the reason why I like him so much 🤣 I do agree, that we need more accurate AD(H)D representation in comics or comic related media. Why just code them in such a way, when you can openly portray them as such? 😒
Fun fact, the basis for her is Truddi Chase, who wrote an autobiography about having DID. Grant Morrision was reading the autobiography when the character concept was made. So she's based on someone real and reading their experiences, which helps to make them feel more real even in a superhero universe.
My favorite version of the Riddler is actually in Young Justice... In Belle Reve, everyone made fun of him and underestimated him for the obvious reasons, but then he was the only one to escape. And yet, even Batman wasn't worried (cuz, yknow, he's the Riddler), which allowed him to get his hands on the tech from Star Labs that allowed the mind control thingies to work. Working with others, the Riddler can be really effective.
Polaris being bipolar was handled pretty well in the show gifted. She wasn't some grandiose dramatization of a person the mental disorder. She was able to get things done. Edit:typo
Glad to hear some love for my Riddle-boi. Honestly, if there's one thing that annoys me it's how inconsistently he gets written in the comics. (Heck i'm one of the people who kinda liked the neck-tattoo/emo redesign when they tried to redesign him post Hush.) Now he's an underdressed dope-fiend who gets outwitted by friggin' everybody. Ah well...
And the 2016 run is nothing Batman could experience, so in the broad details, they are pretty similar, but when you get to the nitty-gritty they have alot of differences.
Rose & Thorn getting handed over to Wonder Woman to "cure her D.I.D." sounds like a euphemism where she got some awesome girl on girl loving and practice managing some anger/violence issues....
I was sad that ended before you could get to the Prankster, mostly because it involves one of my favorite moments in the Justice League Unlimited cartoon.
Everytime he says "i don't think that's how it works" with DID, it's pretty much the PSY community in a nutshell. There's kinda a consensus as to what it is - a response to extreme trauma which causes memory "loss" and creates alters to share the burden - but unfortunately it got hollywooded up. After it got the hollywood treatment you got a bunch of people saying they have DID (whether it's just people finally feeling comfortable to reveal or just attention seeking is debated) and now you get some Psychologists and Psychiatrists refusing to believe it exists. Compound this with the fact it primarily has been shown in females and of course you will have something at best understudied and at worst not believed. quick note i'm not a psychologists i've just had a lifelong interest in PSY and have taken a few courses on it. But this is from those experiences don't be mad that i didn't describe DID well 'cause even real trained PSY people don't.
Moon knight will always be one of my favorites I have a BUNCH (the whole stock in fact) of old 70’s, and 80’s comics of his and have yet to read any of them
19:32 you didn’t mention the fact that he was wiped out of existence by molecule man and the sentry willed himself back into existence HE DIDN’T EXIST AND HE WILLED HIMSELF TO WHAT THE FUCK
You say Sentry is scary...I raise you Doctor Doom, who took a hit from Sentry, when his suit only hand 5% power left. Despite how tv shows depict him, he is also terrifying, need more proof....God Doom....All I'm gonna say.
Amazing comp panda As much as I would like yo see a mental health awareness moth video I realize you'd have to talk about essentially any and every comic character
I'd love it if you would talk about Nadia Pym AKA Nadia Van Dyne AKA The Unstoppable Wasp. I admit that I don't know much about Hank outside of movies and TV, but from what I've seen the writers' additude to Nadia's Bipolar Disorder seems to zig in every way Hank's zags. Also Nadia and her relationships to her friends and Stepmother are just the best and I love her books. She needs more love. Hope's great and all, but Nadia is my favourite Pym daughter.
7:56 I don't want to be that guy but in Doom Patrol #30, Driver 8 reads a poem to Cliff (Robotman) from WB Yeats, who also did the "Crazy Jane" poems, and then said Jane took her name from a sketch painting by Richard Dadd. In fact, when we first meet her in DP #19 she resambles the painting. I'm not saying these are great reasons to call her Crazy Jane but they are factors of why the character of Jane calls herself Crazy Jane. But I might be wrong on that assumption. Feel free to correct me or proof me wrong😊
MoonKnight is not Batman. Batman is a guy who decided to start dressing as a bat to scare criminals and fight for justice entirely motivated by his parent's murder, who uses his money to make/have other people make cool gadgets for him. MoonKnight was a mercenary who got possessed and decided to work as Khonsu's tool of justice. The core and motivations of the characters are very different. Also, Batman has Alfred, supporting cast, and an adoption problem. Moonknight wears white.
Off topic but can u make a mug with This is part two you know the fucking drill And ur logo on the other side or the bottom? I'd buy that one fr. One of those if u know u know kinda things
OK so I doubt anybody is going to read this but whatever here we go. So when I saw this video I was excited as an autistic person to see a hero like me. This didn't happen. Though this is not Pandas fault and I'll explain why. Just about every autistic character disappears or is "cured" in comics. I googled to look it up and it's really some bullshit. So if you were like me then I am sorry for your pain. But it's not Pandas fault.
@STRAWBERRYMUSHROOMFROGGO really? Neither of them really have the traits of adhd in woman? Harley is very physically hyperactive and not really the inattentiveness that woman tend to be? Loud and rude and annoying is a childhood adhd thing sure, not really adult woman type? Not sure bout Star, she doent really seem to have anything like focus, emotional disregulation, hyperfixation. Not to mention adhd very rarely appears without a secondary MD.
Hey I am part of a plural system. We have DID. Personalities is very depersonisong. We are people. Not perspnalities. Also "alter ego" is similar to with personalities. And while alter is better its still derived from it. Headmate, system member, etc
I personally love Hank Pym, but my main source of information for him is Earth’s Mightiest Heroes and maybe “sweet pacifist science guy,” while being exactly the characters I love most in the show, isn’t quite what he is elsewhere?
I think hulk should count as a DID character because of his relationship with the hulk sure it was originally based of Jekyll and Hyde but the personality of hulk in later comics had been developed before the gamma I believe when Bruce was physically abused by his father and also there are far more different personalities then just Bruce and regular hulk like skinny hulk and Joe Fix it I’m not an expert on that subject so I’m sorry if I get anything incorrect just thought it was worth mentioning
I know DC is often known for having better villains, but I'd say it's more that they have more entertaining or iconic villains. Most marvel villains fall into one of a few categories 1. nazis 2. "I'm smarter than everyone so everyone should just shut up and let me rule the world." 3. Kinda justified 4. generic "I want money and/or power." 5. Personally wronged by Tony Stark. DC villains are like hey I'm bored let's see if Batman can find the bomb I planted under Gotham Batman's major nemesis is just a guy who is clinically insane and obsessed with him. The Riddler Kite-man Superman backwards Not that marvel doesn't have stupid or silly villains or DC doesn't have great ones (Poison Ivy, Ra's a ghul) but the Harley Quinn tv show exemplified how absurd so many of their villains are Condiment King
Nah they’re not the same he made a deal with a deity and his gear is mostly from magic he’s got did he’s not born into wealth he’s more azriel then Batman
Wait, that went by really fast, I think you may have pronounced the word "fugue" as "fuh-goo" just now. Which... I guess is how it's spelled, so that makes sense. But in case you weren't aware it's just pronounced "fyoog". Most commonly, for some reason, used in the phrase "fugue state".
Are all the autistic characters so new none of them existed when this was made? What about Mr Fantastic you can make a case for Mr Fantastic if Finesse wasn't around yet.
17:39 ;-; Iron Fist season 2 is monumentally good. It kicks such major ass and I'm sad so many people never watched it because the first half of Iron Fist season 1 was so bad. I order Iron Fist so much.
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So, the thing with DID is there's no 'real' personality. Every personality, including the host, is an alter. There may well be one that's been around the longest, who may also be the host and who uses their legal name, but they're an alter just as much as any other.
Yes exactly, Marc Spector was just the original
In a hilarious twist of irony, The Panda Redd, self described as flour on the spice rack of neurodivergency, did the most ADHD thing and dropped the project mid-month during NEURODIVERGENT MONTH.
(This is me joking I find this fucking hilarious and I know he didnt do it on purpose. I do the same thing way too often)
Honestly? Its just so on point
Honestly i think he is undiagnosed, especially with the coffee addiction needing his brain to function lmao
@@kaoridovani8284 oh most definitely
@@kaoridovani8284 You were right
There aren't enough comic characters with ADHD.
I feel like a lot are wrote adhd coded but it's not stated. But true
@@psychoturtle509 isn't impulse ADHD coded?
I've heard several times that Spidey, especially Tom Holland's version, is ADHD coded. Which is probably the reason why I like him so much 🤣
I do agree, that we need more accurate AD(H)D representation in comics or comic related media. Why just code them in such a way, when you can openly portray them as such? 😒
@@dabuff1319 Honestly all the flashes feel ADHD coded.
@@Deryatari I accept Tom H.’s Spider-Man has ADHD
Riddle fought a war to make the joker laugh I’d say that’s a pretty good homie
We need more homies like him
Crazy Jane actually has a good basis for DID.... I’m not upset at that one (as someone who’s also plural)
Fun fact, the basis for her is Truddi Chase, who wrote an autobiography about having DID. Grant Morrision was reading the autobiography when the character concept was made. So she's based on someone real and reading their experiences, which helps to make them feel more real even in a superhero universe.
What do you think about Bruce Banner in that case?
My favorite version of the Riddler is actually in Young Justice... In Belle Reve, everyone made fun of him and underestimated him for the obvious reasons, but then he was the only one to escape. And yet, even Batman wasn't worried (cuz, yknow, he's the Riddler), which allowed him to get his hands on the tech from Star Labs that allowed the mind control thingies to work. Working with others, the Riddler can be really effective.
Polaris being bipolar was handled pretty well in the show gifted. She wasn't some grandiose dramatization of a person the mental disorder. She was able to get things done.
Edit:typo
The pym particle serums being different explains so many questions I had thank you. This is not where I thought I would get those answers
Another awesome character with dyslexia is Cassandra Cain, which I love as she is my favorite of the batgirls
Isn't she also mute?
@@prestonlogan3808 yes she is.
I'm so happy these are on youtube, this is everything I've ever wanted
Glad to hear some love for my Riddle-boi. Honestly, if there's one thing that annoys me it's how inconsistently he gets written in the comics. (Heck i'm one of the people who kinda liked the neck-tattoo/emo redesign when they tried to redesign him post Hush.) Now he's an underdressed dope-fiend who gets outwitted by friggin' everybody. Ah well...
I was so disappointed when I found out the Rose & Thorn title was a one shot and not a series. It was so interesting.
Tbf Moon Knight did the evil revived sidekick thing before Batman or Cap
And the 2016 run is nothing Batman could experience, so in the broad details, they are pretty similar, but when you get to the nitty-gritty they have alot of differences.
Anyone else imagining being a bystander looking at this guy pointing around and talking to his phone? Just me? Okay
the names changing as he lists the alters for DID characters is so funny to me lol. Especially the red lettering coming in on occasion lmao
Panda you are correct that is quite the outfit Typhoid Mary was rocking
Yep
As someone with DID its kinda cool to see so much representation.
Rose & Thorn getting handed over to Wonder Woman to "cure her D.I.D." sounds like a euphemism where she got some awesome girl on girl loving and practice managing some anger/violence issues....
7:20 I honestly love the editing during this part
I wish there were more asd/aspie characters. Or even just asd coded superheroes.
I was sad that ended before you could get to the Prankster, mostly because it involves one of my favorite moments in the Justice League Unlimited cartoon.
Everytime he says "i don't think that's how it works" with DID, it's pretty much the PSY community in a nutshell. There's kinda a consensus as to what it is - a response to extreme trauma which causes memory "loss" and creates alters to share the burden - but unfortunately it got hollywooded up. After it got the hollywood treatment you got a bunch of people saying they have DID (whether it's just people finally feeling comfortable to reveal or just attention seeking is debated) and now you get some Psychologists and Psychiatrists refusing to believe it exists. Compound this with the fact it primarily has been shown in females and of course you will have something at best understudied and at worst not believed.
quick note i'm not a psychologists i've just had a lifelong interest in PSY and have taken a few courses on it. But this is from those experiences don't be mad that i didn't describe DID well 'cause even real trained PSY people don't.
Really enjoyed this look into some of the neuro-divergent representation in comics.
Thanks for making these videos you are my absolute favorite RUclipsr ever.
Moon knight will always be one of my favorites I have a BUNCH (the whole stock in fact) of old 70’s, and 80’s comics of his and have yet to read any of them
I love Polaris personally. I want to see more of her and Wanda
19:32 you didn’t mention the fact that he was wiped out of existence by molecule man and the sentry willed himself back into existence HE DIDN’T EXIST AND HE WILLED HIMSELF TO WHAT THE FUCK
You say Sentry is scary...I raise you Doctor Doom, who took a hit from Sentry, when his suit only hand 5% power left. Despite how tv shows depict him, he is also terrifying, need more proof....God Doom....All I'm gonna say.
This was a phenomenal collection of characters that I can actually look into which is fantastic ^^
Amazing comp panda
As much as I would like yo see a mental health awareness moth video I realize you'd have to talk about essentially any and every comic character
I'd love it if you would talk about Nadia Pym AKA Nadia Van Dyne AKA The Unstoppable Wasp. I admit that I don't know much about Hank outside of movies and TV, but from what I've seen the writers' additude to Nadia's Bipolar Disorder seems to zig in every way Hank's zags. Also Nadia and her relationships to her friends and Stepmother are just the best and I love her books. She needs more love. Hope's great and all, but Nadia is my favourite Pym daughter.
WOOOOHOOO I LOVE THIS GUY NOT GONNA CAP
Love the intro bro
"*HEAVY SLUUURRRRPING* I just bunt my entire mouth :("
Panda 2:07
7:56 I don't want to be that guy but in Doom Patrol #30, Driver 8 reads a poem to Cliff (Robotman) from WB Yeats, who also did the "Crazy Jane" poems, and then said Jane took her name from a sketch painting by Richard Dadd. In fact, when we first meet her in DP #19 she resambles the painting.
I'm not saying these are great reasons to call her Crazy Jane but they are factors of why the character of Jane calls herself Crazy Jane.
But I might be wrong on that assumption. Feel free to correct me or proof me wrong😊
MoonKnight is not Batman. Batman is a guy who decided to start dressing as a bat to scare criminals and fight for justice entirely motivated by his parent's murder, who uses his money to make/have other people make cool gadgets for him.
MoonKnight was a mercenary who got possessed and decided to work as Khonsu's tool of justice.
The core and motivations of the characters are very different.
Also, Batman has Alfred, supporting cast, and an adoption problem.
Moonknight wears white.
I just finished the guy episode when this was uploaded sweat!!!
Anyone else confused as to why Harvey dent isn’t on this list
he was bipolar and schizophrenic even before he became two face
and at least in B:TAS, he's very much written as having DID
7:34 sin eater
Me: you mean the spider man villain
D.I.D works sometimes like how rose and thorn does but most of the time it's not like that
Am I the only one distracted by the fact that he pronounces Sentry as ‘century’?
THANK YOU, i thought only i heard it
Off topic but can u make a mug with
This is part two you know the fucking drill
And ur logo on the other side or the bottom? I'd buy that one fr. One of those if u know u know kinda things
"Not neurodivergent" oh how the turn tables.
OK so I doubt anybody is going to read this but whatever here we go. So when I saw this video I was excited as an autistic person to see a hero like me. This didn't happen. Though this is not Pandas fault and I'll explain why. Just about every autistic character disappears or is "cured" in comics. I googled to look it up and it's really some bullshit. So if you were like me then I am sorry for your pain. But it's not Pandas fault.
Agreed!!!! It's only villains IF that, and its so sad.
Coming back for Moon Knight’s explanation since we got the trailer today
Im so sus of ADHD character, cause it always feels like its built off the wonderous 'small boy, go fast' mentally. Which is ...a little demeaning
@STRAWBERRYMUSHROOMFROGGO really? Neither of them really have the traits of adhd in woman? Harley is very physically hyperactive and not really the inattentiveness that woman tend to be? Loud and rude and annoying is a childhood adhd thing sure, not really adult woman type? Not sure bout Star, she doent really seem to have anything like focus, emotional disregulation, hyperfixation. Not to mention adhd very rarely appears without a secondary MD.
Yessss
I wish there were superheroes with dyslexia
Wasn't it implied in the comics at one point that Batman has high-functioning autism/is on the spectrum?
My memory is shit but I remember it only being the case in earth 1. Being diagnosed with OCD, PTSD, anxiety and being on the spectrum as a child.
As an autistic I fully endorse this! I also think Damian is.
Legion looks like the reject cousin of the bad guy murderous fighter from One punch man Season 2
7:38 Can you say 'Trademark lockdown' XD It's BS like that, that makes it hard for indie publishers to make supers...
Hey I am part of a plural system. We have DID. Personalities is very depersonisong. We are people. Not perspnalities. Also "alter ego" is similar to with personalities. And while alter is better its still derived from it. Headmate, system member, etc
Oh also "evil alter" is a common stereotype that often gets people assuming every system has someone evil
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I personally love Hank Pym, but my main source of information for him is Earth’s Mightiest Heroes and maybe “sweet pacifist science guy,” while being exactly the characters I love most in the show, isn’t quite what he is elsewhere?
Hush is such a good book.
Welcome to RUclips
5:12 sounds like Bruce and Damian Wayne
So Legion is an anime protagonist
No he’s much worse
Moon night is a non evil Bwl
I think hulk should count as a DID character because of his relationship with the hulk sure it was originally based of Jekyll and Hyde but the personality of hulk in later comics had been developed before the gamma I believe when Bruce was physically abused by his father and also there are far more different personalities then just Bruce and regular hulk like skinny hulk and Joe Fix it I’m not an expert on that subject so I’m sorry if I get anything incorrect just thought it was worth mentioning
I looked up Mary her costume pretty much looks like zatanna and black canary but emo
Didn't you not finish this month
"month"
@@Emily-ye1rj fair point
@Sami Mukhtar cause it was around finals time as well
How did you miss Badger? He needs more love!
Not a comic book character(unless you count manga as a comic)but Launch from Dragon Ball.
Does Jason blood count as Nuro divergent
Oh cool this was posted on my day of birth
Happy birthday (2 months later)
@@bearcarbs9993 👌
STOP LYING TO YOUR YES I AM but a lot better looking and less creepy because I don't put kids in speedos
I know DC is often known for having better villains, but I'd say it's more that they have more entertaining or iconic villains.
Most marvel villains fall into one of a few categories
1. nazis
2. "I'm smarter than everyone so everyone should just shut up and let me rule the world."
3. Kinda justified
4. generic "I want money and/or power."
5. Personally wronged by Tony Stark.
DC villains are like hey I'm bored let's see if Batman can find the bomb I planted under Gotham
Batman's major nemesis is just a guy who is clinically insane and obsessed with him.
The Riddler
Kite-man
Superman backwards
Not that marvel doesn't have stupid or silly villains or DC doesn't have great ones (Poison Ivy, Ra's a ghul)
but the Harley Quinn tv show exemplified how absurd so many of their villains are
Condiment King
Nah they’re not the same he made a deal with a deity and his gear is mostly from magic he’s got did he’s not born into wealth he’s more azriel then Batman
Green goblin is evil Batman
Captain America is deathstroke
Iron man is lex Luther
Hyperion is superman
Dr doom is Constantine
Wait, that went by really fast, I think you may have pronounced the word "fugue" as "fuh-goo" just now. Which... I guess is how it's spelled, so that makes sense. But in case you weren't aware it's just pronounced "fyoog". Most commonly, for some reason, used in the phrase "fugue state".
Most of this are from Marvel
Yeah that checks out
I’m kinda sad he didn’t mention magenta or killer frost
Are all the autistic characters so new none of them existed when this was made? What about Mr Fantastic you can make a case for Mr Fantastic if Finesse wasn't around yet.
Sad you didn't get to Jessica Cruz
Yeah, she has anxiety disorder and crippling agoraphobia
I prefer scott lang instead of hank pyn as ant-man
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17:39 ;-; Iron Fist season 2 is monumentally good. It kicks such major ass and I'm sad so many people never watched it because the first half of Iron Fist season 1 was so bad. I order Iron Fist so much.