Gravel vs Cyclocross Bikes in 2024
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- In this video I share my experience of riding cyclocross bikes and a gravel bikes. Obviously a 'cross bike is made for cyclocross racing, but it can also make a great gavel bike. I talk about the differences to help you decide which one is best for your needs.
Here's a video on cross vs gravel bikes I made in 2018:
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Once those tyres are bigger than 35mm, Cx bike becomes a gravel bike 👍
I have built up a CAADX with GRX400 and it’s makes an amazingly good gravel bike than also avoids feeling sluggish on road…
Clint, your points are spot on. Best if every rider can figure what surface they’re riding on, whether they are riding to ride or riding to race and how comfortable they want to be at the end of it and that should dictate the type of frame geometry and then material. I feel like you can overcome material differences through tire selection, and then maybe wheel and other touch points. And if $ allows the best solution is N+1 if it’s a mix and you can’t decide
A really nice discussion for those of us trying to pick
I just went endurance. The Roubaix sl8 comp. It feels so good with its futureshock I keep thinking the tire is flat when I hit bumps. It supports up to 40mm wide tires.
I took it for its first ride last evening. It rolls so much faster than the mountainbike I came from. Easy 2mph faster into the wind of the onshore breeze I ofthen face.
100% agree my Cross bike is very fun, responsive, & capable but the gravel bike is a little more forgiving fatigue wise for long days out. The gravel bike also feels more stable on long steep descents due to that lower bottom bracket and slightly longer wheel base.
2024 Crux Pro vs 2020 Checkpoint SL 5 (Carbon Wheelset) Tire choice, width, & pressure definitely factor in as well.
I got a Cervelo R5cx to use as a gravel bike. Its geometry is closer to my road bike. It handles really fast, it accelerates quickly, it's light and doesn't have all sorts of mounting points I don't need. I'm currently using it with 40s, but it will fit up to 50s. I've yet to see another one out in the wild, but I think it makes a better gravel race bike than the Aspero.
A few years ago I was trying to find a used road bike I could put bigger tires on, I never found one. I didn't want to spend the money on a specific gravel bike, then I learned and found a cyclocross bike, wow, that's perfect. I like to see margin gains on my workouts. I've been doing biking for my main source of fitness and am very pleased with the fitness gains in time and watt results. It just seems to fit my concept of what I'm trying to get out of my efforts, I don't want my marginal efforts to be sucked up in a spongy frame.
I agree, if coming from road a CX bike feels better. A gravel bike will feel sluggish.
I'm using a CX as an allrounder, mostly road with some connecting trails, I won't take part to any cyclo cross competition!
I suppose it's a personal preference, I like how CX handle, more lively, it feels like it responds faster. But some people find them "borderline"!
It's a 10 kg aluminium, S 105 and GRX, handle bar comes with some moderate flare. I already replaced the rear tyre with something slicker but robust, the plan is to keep a 2nd front wheel ready with a different tyre to have both alternatives when the weather asks, X-One and Cinturato velo for now.
CX gears are a bit weird, might need some higher gears for the road (but I am not using 53 x 11 and 12 much on my older road bike), and lowest gears are still higher than those on MTBs and some gravels, but I'm fine for now.
Same here, i've been riding a 2018 TCX i bought and some people found it weird but a CX which fits you well and you feel good, can be a pretty good all-rounder.
I love my Lynskey Pro-Cross on gravel. Great video sir.
I use my felt fx5 cyclocross bike for gravel. At one point it was my road/CX and gravel bike till I picked up a dedicated road bike.
Love these comparisons Clint. Tyres make a big difference - got the Maxxis Mud Wrestlers 33mm front for grip, and Vittoria Dry 35 back for comfort and speed on my TCX. Not the lightest combo, but bombproof in most conditions.
What you’re saying is that each of us needs a bike frame geometry that lets us ride the routes we ride -the terrain (hills or flat, twisty or straight) and surface (paved or not, smooth or rough or really rough) sand dirt gravel rooty AND the bodies we have (flexible or less flexible from age or injuries). Frame geometry is what establishes that. The material of the frame . And the rest of the parts are interchangeable, decide how much you want to spend.
There are so many different niches and so much overlap between them, I don’t pay much attention to what manufacturers call their bikes these days. I just look at the geometry. It gets even more interesting with the flip chips offered on some models.
Have a nice Sunday 🎉
The long seattube and tall toptube always felt fast on the Giant MTBs of the 2014 to 2016 era. The 17 Trance Advanced vs the 2014 road so significantly different on technical downhill sections; in reality not far off in terms of suspension design. But, I certainly felt the harshness on the 2104 Advanced 0 team model vs the 17 Advanced 1.
I got a Crux for best of both
Nice! My wife just got a 24 Crux Comp with the 12spd GRX group and it's definitely very nice. She wanted something lightweight and responsive with road bike type geometry and wide tire clearance. She is 5' 3" and the shorter reach on it compared to other bikes (like the Cervelo Aspero) was great.
You’re killing me. I started watching your videos years ago and had to go purchase a new mountain bike. Then the cyclocross videos and I just had to get a CX bike. The gravel bike arrives this week…
Having a similar debate with my Giant Revolt and Giant Defy. The latter feels faster on roads but in reality due to the comfier tyres on the revolt it’s around 1 mph on average at the end of a ride. Debating getting the Cadex AR wheels and selling the Defy. Trouble is the Defy feels more alive and ultimately a little more fun.
Cross bike makes a good fast gravel bike. Usually a cross bike will be more limited on the size of tire you can fit, 40mm or less.
On a cross bike, with smaller tires you have to be more attentive, otherwise will easily hit the dust!!
I think the reason for some of the steering feeling between the cx bike and gravel bike has a lot to due with weight bias. It seems cx bikes tend to set the bias further rearward for better traction.
I had a cyclocross bike it rode like a caddallc I miss it gave it to my nephew
I've tried so dang hard to enjoy drop bar riding.
Me too . I'm never gonna be fast no matter what I do. Converted both of my biles to Jones loop bars much more comfortable.
XC MTB Done 😆
With one exception, you only need a gravel bike. (And not a road, or cross bike). The gravel bike can do it all. For those occasions where you will be 100% pavement, have a second set of 'road wheels/tires'. For everything else just use your gravel bike wheels/tires. Gravel bike geometry is the 'comfortable' geometry. You'll ride longer, fresher, with a good gravel (non-race) gravel frame.
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So what's the "one exception"???? If you get PAID to race. Then you can fret over grams and aero. If you race for fun, or just ride for fun, an endurance geometry gravel bike will make you happy....
I think the selling point for a CX bike these days is, that it makes an excellent road bike for areas where you just do not have sufficient tarmac, both quantitatively and in terms of quality. Where I live, a bike route regularly entails at least some gravel stretches, or bike lanes that just are super broken and rough. A pure road bike (and the rider) just suffers immensely on those streches. A gravel bike on the other hand is too tame to give you that road bike feeling, so CX is the missing link I'd say.
Hey Clint. Thanks for another interesting video. Fun hypothetical question for you: You are registered for a cross race and a 100 km gravel race on back to back weekends. You can run which ever tires you choose, but have to run the same bike for both events. Let’s say that each event is of equal priority to you. Are you going with the cross bike or the gravel bike and why?
I would probably go with the cross bike because this particular bike is very fast for gravel events. The only reason I would not is if it were a mountainous gravel event that had climbs over 10%.
How does all road geo compare to a cross bike?
A bit slacker but not much. Tires make the biggest difference
Which is a bit slacker. cx or all-road? Tire clearance on many of them are similar at 40mm so the same tires can fit.
I live in Jacksonville Florida and ride on similar gravel roads. What tires do you find work best? Currently running continental terra speed 40 mm but they wear quickly 🥺
Can’t go wrong with Maxxis Ramblers or Schwalbe G-One
Modern gravel with an electronic groupset. You’re welcome.
Picked up a Marin DSX for a gravel bike recently. Went with it because of the flat bar. Just can’t get comfortable on drops. Any thoughts on flatbar gravel bikes?
They are a great option for a lot of people. One of my favorite bikes ever was a $400 flat bar style bike with thinner tires that I used for commuting to and from school when I went back and got a second-degree. Had a blast on that bike.
i’m gonna comment towards the end of the video any kind of long gravel ride you know three hours or more maybe 2 1/2 depends on the speed or whatever especially down here in South Florida on the Coral rock Leis you’re gonna feel beat up I think no matter what bike you have or tires I’ve even done it on my giant carbon XTC advance to mountain bikewhich is snappy just like the cycle giant you have feels I think the distance over bumpy terrain. I don’t think anything could mitigate feeling beat up after a while. That’s just my experience specialized diverge that I bought during the pandemic. I think 50 miles is enough my body can’t take anymore.
cyclocross is a super niche field, i cant imagine that dedicated cx bikes will remain viable market wise
CX existed before gravel. And maybe after...
It will since a lot of Pros ride CX when the road season ends