Canada Cup 1981 Final Game Goals - Canada vs. USSR
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Game played in Montreal on September 13, 1981. Canada was undefeated in the tournament and was expected to win.
I know the commentary is not good; it is not live and is over the Canadian one.
I'm not russian but i always considered russian hocky more finess and much more creative then canadian hocky.every gol they scored was a poetry.
Like I said Russia is not on the same level as the USSR was.
There have been only 5 tournaments where Canada's and the USSR's best played. The USSR won the 79 Challenge Cup and the 81 Canada Cup in blow outs. Canada won in 72, 84, and 87 in very close games. However in 72 there was a lot of controversy with the way Canada played and in the Canada Cups the Canadians had many advantages. In the final game in 87, referee Koharski was like team Canada's MVP...
Not True! Bure Fedorov Mogilny were much better than Mikhailov Petrov Harlamov or Larionov Krutov Makarov! Canada have 650000 hockey players today! USA have 550000 hockey players today! Ovechkin's Russia have only under 100000 hockey players today! Canada and USA should have 11 players who have scored over 800 goals like Ovechkin today!!
79 wasn't Canada's best by a long shot. None of Canada's best were there. 81 they won after some injuries hampered Canada and their goalie laid an egg. Canada won every real best on best tourney outside of 81. In 72 they didn't send their best either, the WHA players weren't there, neither was Orr for example. They showed up after a summer off, out of shape and not taking the first 4 games seriously. They took the next 4 in Russia seriously and won them. In 87, the best team won, no matter how much crying and lying you make about it.
The Soviets weren't going to be denied in this tournament. They re-tooled their national team after the upset loss to the US a year earlier in Lake Placid. The KLM line ushered in a new dominance that set the standard for the rest of the 1980's.
1. Gretsky 2. Lemieux 3. Sakic... 1. Larionov 2. Makarov 3. Fetisov 4. Kharlamov 5. Mikhailov... and somewhere close to these 5 are Khomutov and Ovechkin.
The USSR national team of 81 is the most superior hockey team ever. 7-1 in this final and 13-1 against Sweden in the IHWC final earlier the same year.
Man! The USSR team, and the KLM line was so dominant it was ridicoulus!
Man it was 40 years ago. Forty! Name me one more win of brave Canada team outside north-american ice , without home rinks, spectators and own refferees for the last 38 years.
Well let me educate you on "One more win outside brave Canada"
All 27 World Championships won by Canada at the IIHF World Championships were won outside Canada.
Of Canada's 12 Olympic Golds 11 were won outside Canada. Most recently 2014 Sochi Russia, 2002 Salt Lake USA.
Don't you feel stupid now? Yeah you do....LMAO.
Sochi Olympics, how's that?
this was real hockey, not the bs we see on tv today, it was skill then, now its just a show of who checks best, and it all came from the NHL
@GaurMiaur
The Canada Cup was won by Canada more then any other country. It was the best of all the world represented.
Those Canadians were just outstanding in this game, it is funny how the games play out when the officiating is not the biggest issue, some one tell me that Sergei Makorov in his prime was not in the top three forwards of that era is just blind, in the next Canada Cup the officiating was laughable and the Canadians, just barely escaped with their necks, when they needed a power play uh here it comes, it was embarrassing to watch as a neutral fan.
Agreed.
Blaming the referees when Russia loses, typical. Didn't hear you cry when the refs actually did cheat for Russia in 72 and they lost anyway.
to:unnameoo: one example of unstableness was CC81,when USSR lost in group 3:7,in ´85 USSR lost with CS 1:2,with Can 1:3 ,that is what I am talking about ,when USSR was not ahead quickly 2:0 they bacame nervous more and more,I think in full NHL season CSKA face 80 tough games with many injuries and sometimes of dirty plays of opponents,so no domination would be visible.Tikhovov always lamented after series with NHL clubs they returned with so many injured.
@unnamed00
Not true at all. The Canadian players hardly played together in fact they didn't and had only a few weeks to get their act together. The Russian and other teams played together as a unit. None of the Teams complained that the tournament had advantages for Canada. They all came to win. Canada won in '72 and they won in Russia. They won in 76 and they won in Canada. They lost in 81 but then after they pretty well owned the cup.
Canada looked about as bad as it ever did in hockey history in this game. I recall Canada beating USSR 7 - 3 or something in the Round Robin. I also remember Guy Lafleur laughing at the camera after Liut let in the 5th goal or so. I also remember Canadian players being told not to "try so hard they get hurt for the NHL season". What a stupid bit of advice that was. This team got embarrassed by the Soviets and Canada should never forget this moment of humility.
The best ever team in any sports krutov rip
I was at this game.
For decades the Sovjets made the Canadians look like droopy-eyed armless children. This is what it looks like when hockey based on roughing, slashing and spitting meat finesse, technical skill, teamwork and true talent. Anyone with the love for this sport can appreciate the latter.
Huh? This was the only time Russia ever actually won a 1 game final vs Canada. Canada's beaten Russia in every other best on best event over the past 52 yrs.
@@rigafraction1653 If your read what I wrote I'm referring to Soviet. Not Russia. In all international meetings between the Soviet Union and Canada, from 1954-1991, there were a total of 139 games played. The USSR won 95 games to Canada's 32 games, and 12 games ended in a tie. And as mentioned no one played the game as elegant and great as the Soviets. I think all hockey lovers can agree on that. It's pretty much an established part of hockey history.
I wanna add that Canada is of course one of the greatest hockey nations in the world, that speaks volume about the former Soviet Union hockey or the Red Army hockey as it's better known as, they played superior hockey to anyone for a long time. My favourite era is late 70's to early to mid 80's, in that periode the Red Army team rarely lost at all. In the 1981 Labatt Canada Cup the Soviet Union defeated Canada 8-1. My favorite players are Larionov, Fetisov, Makarov, Kozlov.
The Canada Cup was a home tournament for Canada and Canada had many advantages over other teams, so it is not the only way to judge the best team.
Their advantage was they were better than those other teams.
Christ, what a blowout!
I have Canada Cup 87 on DVD and have been trying to get a 1981 Canada Cup DVD, but can't find it anywhere. Can anyone tell me where I can get it? A link, etc. Pleeeease :)
I gotta agree with tkunder on this. If nobody knows what it is, how can it be respected? They go together. I'm a huge hockey fan and barely remembered this trophy even existed. Most probably would still say "oh, isn't that the trophy the Blue Jays and Expos battled for each year?" Liut was an average goalie who had one good year - the rest were just okay. Liut and the Blues choked that year in the playoffs when it counted most. The best-ever stood the test of time as superstars - and won.
That line of Makarov Krutov and Larionov skated rings around the Canadians, it was not even that close, sadly the officials made sure that, the Canadians would never get embarrassed like that again. That line young and hungry was the best ever, that was not an all star line.
yes!
This is Sergie Makorov more in his prime, this is the Soviets putting a big time spanking on the team from up north it was not even close, spare me with that debacle in 1987, there was no way the officials were going to let the Canadians get spanked again.
To show you how disgraceful Canadians got they did not let the Sovjets have their Canada cuo in 1981. They said it needed to stay in Canada no matter who won....Just such a bunch of very sad losers. Nothing against the players though, it is in fact nice to see that tow very different systems produced great players. Personally I have always found the Soviet icehockey and its individual players the best ever, but of course Gretzky and co. were great as well.
it was a shocker to us in canada
We have won Nagano 98 thanks the the most famous goaltending made by Hasek and the best defence ever Czechs assembled .Sure our win was the same surprise to that of USA in Lake Placid 80,when US students beat USSR.
From 1980 "Miracle On Ice," to 1981 "Embarrassment On Ice." Soviet Red Army team was back in style.
Canada has this whole manhood thing. Hockey players want to have their teeth knocked out. Hockey players must fight. Canada players don't wear helmets. It's a manhood thing. The Russians were just better skaters back then.
tdshaker "hey look at me how badass and manly i am, i play with no helmet because i am not a pussy" like this?
Don't forget the influence of Bandy on the Soviet style, which had always emphasised these skills. Ice Hockey in Canada had always been rough and tumble until very recently.
a magic moment
TO:unnamedoo We were lucky also in ´77 WMC ,some results of final group:CAN-CS 8:2,SWE-CCCP 2:1,3:1. Thanks to Swe we have won,we were not lucky in ´78 WMC CS-CCCP 1:3,would we loose only 1:2 or 2:3,we got gold. I can confirm ´79 WMC in Moscow as superdominant CCCP team.And necessary to mention the best Canada did not take part on these events.
Truly the most embarrassing international game ever played by Canada. The defense in this game was non existent for goalie Mike Liut, and he himself played poorly. After the Soviets played possum and lost an earlier game to Canada 7-3, the Canadians underestimated how hard the Soviets would play the final. One of those games where they weren't mentally prepared and nothing went their way. This began the process of positive change, Canada winning all but one of the next 5 World Cups.
GO CCCP!
O.K. Thanks. It's hard to believe they were that good to defeat Canada 8-1 and Sweden 13-1 and now you hardly hear of them it's just Canada and Russia or Canada and USA and Canada and Sweden.
KLM line. Larionov and Makarov went on to have good careers in the NHL but Krutov didn't work out in Vancouver. Too used to playing on the same unit through his career. The Soviets would often play units of 5 players all the time.
I liked Oilers very much also thanks to Oiler line Kurri-Gretzky-Pouzar ,they were excellent,I remember when they beat USSR in Dec,1982 4:3 / scoring Greatzky2,Messier1 and Anderson1.
And like mats said 4 years ago, do we have the referees in our pocket?
it said they wanted to take the cup away from them, why?
Шепелев теперь команду в моем городе тренерует. Ханты-Мансийскую "Югру
"Shepelev #21 now headcouch of hockey team in my town. Khanty-mansiysk "Yougra"
Does anybody know why this wasn't a best of 3? All the other Canada Cup Finals were best of 3.
As for disturbing ,players as Golonka and other have been talking about this,I do not think they were liars.Only I do not know if disturbed during World champ or Izvestia prize.
I always loved how the Russians played.They have a good team play and it's good to see,the americans play to phisacal and to rough..However"Go Canada"!
The Katyn killings are just one of the acts of agression between Poland and Russia/USSR. Probably the motivation for the killings goes back to the Soviet-Polish War in 1920, when there were mass killings of Bolsheviks.
The military actions of 56 and 68 were not meant to intimidate and humiliate the people of those countries. The USSR just did not want to lose allies. However, the people probably did feel humiliated and intimidated at the time.
@TheDaddyCokes I do too. It just isn't the same somehow. I'm not sure why. Maybe it's because the Russians were/are as passionate about hockey as we are; in the US it's just another sport, and the No. 4 one at that. I think a lot has to do with the US attitude though, at least through these postings. A lot of what they say smells too much of that archetypical "we're the best of course we win and if we don't it doesn't matter because it's not important anyway."
Why was not the ledership so corrupt before? And it is not only a problem in the former USSR.
Who studied in the West before 1989? It is what is going on with rich children now, not before. Why would anyone study in the West before?
It was the "Canada Cup" we can do whatever we want ;)
who was in goal?
Canadians did not let the Soviet team take the cup home because they said it was Canadian property.
@Europemanx
Actually, Canada has a very low population from which to choose players. Canada has about only 33 million people. So out of that number, excluding the elderly, women and children the sick and those over 40, your not left with a huge number of people.
I forget is USSR the Soviet Union?
and well... I forgot Pavel Bure. He should be in the top 10.
@robertsteven Right.Now day we have talent but not a great team.Canada got more talents in last 20 yeare.But to be fair USSR 1970-1990 TEAM and CSKA club TEAM until 1990 was better teams ever to play this game,They got talent and thw were trainig for 360 per year,it is impossible to beta this kind of combination
Mike Liut was disgraceful I mean he had little chance on a lot of those goals but his body language was pretty bad.
There's never been Canadian team who/which plays like this. Haven't even seen canadien line play like this ever. Finns have couple good lines and Swedes Sedin's.
Canada Cup 87. That was easy
@@rigafraction1653 even Gretzky and Mario didn't play this well together. They were just better players.
two best probably are better than the rest of the best
@NanoTechStone1
Once again. The Olympics began allowing pro hockey players since 98. The only team to have won twice so far, is Canada. We won in Salt Lake and We won in Vancouver. Canada is repeating their superiority as they did in the Canada Cup. They will loose a few here and there, but with All the Best Players Playing, they will consistently win more then any other nation bar none.
Makarov was better than Gretzky
Difficult to compare though, but I feel the same way.
LOL at what?
Soviet players also talked about being disturbed while in Czechoslovakia. So it is not uncommon for players to make these accusations.
Stop blaming Liut. He won the Pearson Trophy that year.
Yes, the expectation was that Team Canada's ageing core plus Wayne Gretzky would be more than enough to beat the Russians. Instead, the Russians played sound and tight in their own end, and took advantage of every opportunity. The Russians were fit and ready to play, but the Canadians really expected to win without much trouble. Mike Liut served as scapegoat for a poorly built and poorly prepared team Canada that couldn't crack the Russians defense, or Vladislav Tretiak in his prime.
Da, I thought we was number one? They still tell me " IT's Our Game" IF That's true, how come we never come close to Winning? I'M Starting to wonder, do they think i am dumb?
@babystinky
Russia - Canada 1992 Olympic final 3 : 1
Russia - Canada 2002 Olympic game 2 : 0
Russia - Canada finals 2008,2009 5:4,2:1
watch the round robin game Canada-Soviet Union and tell me if i am paranoid but something smelled rotten with the referee and that game.....fixed? with alan eagleson involved certainly not impossible he would have lost huge cash if canada did not make the final (would be much harder vs. sweden) and yes i know canada beat sweden in round robin but sweden is still tougher opponent czechs couldnt beat canadian team playing 1st meaningful game
Hmm canadian cup where also fixed a lot so the canadians had to travel the shortest ways many times.
Alain Eagle where not exactly famous for sportmannaship.
"so in 48 they made putsch,most of our people disagreed ,so to intimidate our nation ,so communists except many others arrested also our well known players ,all was in cooperation with KGB"
You sure that most of your people disagreed? The Soviets helping the Czech communists is not humiliating and intimidating the Czech and Slovak people, it is just siding with one faction of Czechs and Slovaks.
"Nobody would allow to disturb Soviets in our country,because otherwise KGB officers in our country would start a hard investigation."
Sure, and they would put all your players in the GULAG.
If the great Tretiak had not retired than, do you see that 1 goal they scored in this game, I don't see the Canadians scoring more than three in any game in 87 if Tretiak is still in goal, a lot of people didn't realize that Tretiak was the heart and soul of those great Soviet teams. They win with him in 87. And Canada knows it.
Eric Day Nope. Canada regularly beat the Russians in every tournament despite not being familiar teammates as the Russians were. Canada Cup 81 was Canada not playing well and not and brutal goaltending as you see here. Tretiak was a very overrated goaltender in general
To date (2016) the Russians (including the Soviet era) have won 27 IIHF World Championships , the Canadians 26. Of course, 15 of the Canadian championships came before the Russians even starting playing in the IIHF sanctioned championship tournaments in 1954. Covering only the time when *both* countries had teams competing, the Russians easily win that margin by 27-11. So "Canada regularly beating the Russians in every tournament" is a fan-boy load of hogwash. It is convenient that any tournament Canada loses is one where they're "not playing well". Well, no shit; that's usually why someone *loses*.
Craig N The Soviets were so much better then everyone else as not to be funny. Almost on a par with the US and basketball. Anyway the Canadians have caught up as have others, but oh my for a while there that guy Makarav and Krutov and some others were frightening to watch. And let me also say that in many Canada Cups the officiating was deplorable, pro Canada.
Craig N of course you forget to mention (conveniently) that the Russian national team won all those championships against college kids with little chance of becoming NHL players. The pros didn't join the Olympics until 1998, after which both Canada and the US have dominated. Up until then when the best of the NHL played in Canada Cups, Canada won every tournament except for '81.
Canada has whooped the Russians silly for 30+ years
hoserfella Tretiak overrated? Are you kidding me? He influenced many NHL and international goalies. Tretiak himself was also influenced by the "V style" aka butterfly used by the great Glenn Hall (Mr. Goalie).
Just look at his style compared to Dryden's and Esposito's in '72. Did you even see the '75 New Year's eve game against Montreal? I watched that game and was blown away by Tretiak's performance, despite being constantly run over and interfered with by opposing players.
Overrated, I think not. Just ask some of the NHL greats that have regarded him as one of the best to play the game ie) Dryden, Fuhr, Belfour, Hasek etc.
No offense but I think their opinions carry a little more weight than yours....and mine.
TO:unnamed00 As for domination I am interesting in a bit modern history.And would you regard our free referundum about joining EU as sign of domination by West, it only proves that you prefer quite different political system,but please export only gas and oil,not your political preferences.
says who?
USSR hockey team are the BEST for ALL-TIME
@TheDaddyCokes in which world do you live ? Russia eclipsed by USA ? it s not because Canada was the lone team to defeat russia in Olypics that US are better. for my point of view Canada is the best rival of russia but acctually russia have no real problems for the 3 last years. but it s right Soviets was better because they played altoghether all years. now all player play in different team and it make a big difference. but the old canada team with gretzky, lemieux.. was better than the actual
TO unnamed00 Hungary 56,CS 68. In ´46 CS commununist have won elections,but following two years they almost lost support of our nation,so in 48 they made putsch,most of our people disagreed ,so to intimidate our nation ,so communists except many others arrested also our well known players ,all was in cooperation with KGB,as for Poland did you ever heard for example about Katyn forest?
kanada moliai!
i feel sorry for the goalies back then
Awe, can't we be friends?
lol USSR Hockey players were usually highly talented soldiers trained to kill the other teams!
my below reply was to unnamedoo
Что это за комментатор? Жиль? Серьезно? Его Гиллис зовут
If it was a disaster then what would you call the introduction of market economy in Eastern Europe?
Your people see the EU as a quick fix for their problems after socialism. They think that joining up with richer and more powerful countries will help them.
Many are reluctant to vote for communists because there is no communist super power to support them anymore, so they think the surrounding powerful capitalist countries would isolate their country and things would get worse.
What do Juniors have to do with this?
The Soviets showed some class not rubbing our noses in this one. Canada stunk big time. Good thing this game is an anomaly. It seems to me in retrospect that Canada loses when there's inadequate preparation, or just plain lack of respect for an opponent. The skill and talent are there, but it still comes down to playing as a team. Especially in the big games.
Regardless of what you think of that trophy, the fact that he was second in the Hart Trophy voting after Gretzky says a lot.
Now you are talking like a Canadian. For Canada, winning a home tournament is not that great of an accomplishment since they had all the advantages.
You might be free now to have political rights, but you don't have the economic rights of the past.
No, not all teams have the same conditions as Canada, especially Russia. Did Canada undergo terrible changes that affected its sports?
Плотная натяжечка!!!!
Again, you are funny. They were lucky to win.
The old teams would win many more times if there was no powerful USSR team to stop them.
Any proof of that disturbing or are you just talk?
Canadians did not have advantages? Referees were ok? Did you see my video about the refereeing in the final game of CC 87?
The best Soviet players were not there in 76 and 91, so there goes your point already. I am sure other teams did not have all of their best at times also. And again, the Canada Cup gave too much advantage to the Canadians to be considered the best indicator of who was the best.
@robertsteven The Soviets were the best in the early 80s of course ... but you can't deny that Canada has produced some pretty incredible talent ... Gretzky, Lemieux, Lafleur, Orr, Bourque, Patrick Roy, etc.
I dont agree with you !
@CHF2
FYI,
According to IIHF at this moment as of 02/25/2011 Russia is ranked 1st team in ice hockey
Your beloved Canada 2nd one
Well, USSR vs Canada+referee. 2 on 1. USSR wins. Soviet players was better. Canada scares soviets, that because they always fighting when lose
Team Russia was not just thrown together. Many of the players played together during the last few WCs, and some played together for years (Morozov line). So the problem is not as simple as having to have to throw a team together...
Canada was asleep during this one.
@evanderlazer
Russia accomplish all in 53 yrs what Canada did in 100yrs in official hockey games
It is no doubt that Russian teams always better than Canadians.
It is no arguments, it is no doubts about it , Russia hockey country.
Russia great on the ice same as Brazil on football field
Canada was not just humiliated celebrating 100 years of hockey on their own territory,
but also were fucked by Russians according all hockey rules
FYI Canada lost olympic game to UK in 1936
What a shame
Ещё хочу такого же( I want it again, sorry canadians)))
sure... gramma..right... anything exciting about hockey? I remember very well how USSR beeat the shit out of Canada at that time. But of course you're gonna tell me about Canada Cup'87. Right. I've seen those games too - and recall that it was hardly a hockey - more like utlimate fighting at Canada's site and always penalties at the other.
I have a greate protposition, dude! Why don't you just play against empty net. Hopefully you'll win.
What? Canada had all its best NHL players in this tournament.
Do you also remember when CSKA beat them 6:3 in 86?
That has to be the worst goaltending in hockey history at this level - it's almost as if Liut was throwing the game or too scared to move - just disgraceful
As for the Soviet invasion, it was a political move. It was not against regular people like you.
TO unnamed00:Regardless any events Russia has still excellent players ,but do you remember Petrohrad 2000 and disaster of Russian stars? As for "terrible events": these events made free millions of people in former eastern block,I do not take it as terrible events,although short-term problems did appear as well as that those events had different results in different countries.
How is it a true indicator? If it was, then Canada would not be 7th at the Olympics last year.
Winning on the junior level does not mean winning as seniors. This is also true for soccer and other sports.
I don't know how you watched those games, but if you did carefully you would notice what I am talking about.
it's not true.
russian clubs won almost all superseries against nhl clubs. learn the history, man.
When specifically did the USSR humiliate and intimidate Poland or another country?