that would actually be their easiest problem to solve, different device draw different amounts of current and the pad could quite easily detect that and prevent devices from charging
Very valid point, a very Apple thing to do. I also just think they know they can keep selling cord chargers that break all the time (maybe even change up the port again lol)
They had just acquired a company to do it, but it wasn't ready. And even if they did solve it, what if the final product ended up costing $600... that would be unacceptable.
@@jqyhlmnp The article he shared is actually very accurate. Engineers on RUclips have disassembled Apple products and pointed out design flaws on the main board of them that lead to overheating (which is very bad), warping, or shorting of circuits, causing predictable malfunctions with the products. We're not talking with heavy use, we're talking the boards were designed to fail from day one. None of the engineers caught the basic flaw of balancing the power on the board, which leads to electrocution (overheating) and destroying the phone slowly. I'm no expert, but you can look this stuff up. Some of what they've done is just beyond shady. They promise more than they can deliver and then do a shoddy shortcut to get it done.
@@lbch_youtube Thank you for this. I've seen engineers going over shortcomings in the engineering... Its good to see a statement with all of that in one place.
Joanna stern please dont ever change the styles of your videos. Most tech videos nowadays are all either generic af or super unoriginal but her vids are always so unique
@@manamanaman well he does do honest tech reviews, there's nothing wrong about his channel unlike some tech channels where all they talk about is how awesome apple really is when in reality they are the most non innovative "tech" company there is when all they do is copy Samsung! Unbox therapy is one of the most awesome tech channel there is on RUclips
It's the classic case of don't count your chickens before they hatch. Apple promised a product that isn't technologically possible yet. At least for mass consumers. Next time. Maybe next time.
The tech IS ready, there is a chinese company that sells them for about €20, its just that apple is too big into ripping people off, that they are trying to find the most inefficient way of charging to make it seem like its the phone thats the problem so you buy a new phone
I don’t think Apple wanted a “Galaxy Note 7” controversy on their hands.. which would result in more backlash than just scrapping the idea all together.
They shoul5neber lied and and announced somthin5and failed to produce it all together...2 years they had.. it don't take 2 years to make something so simple... seems all apple and its fans has no common sense because you can't and nor will achieve this without a fan or air ven system hahahah...
What if they mounted a cooler below the mat to actively cool the coils? it would be thicker but honestly that could work. Maybe the real issue was interference. All devices should probably need to accept same voltage and amps to not interfere. So maybe the real problem was with the devices as well. They were not all compatible with the same charging input. It still sounds like a good engineering challenge. Honestly they may have figured something out. They probably just didn't wanna ship a really huge bulky loud charging mat.
easier solution just use square coil wit coating on them and the put them side by side very easy fix and also the shape of the coil have a minor change so there is no worry about it
1:38 Real talk here, Target's more expensive $25 pads are fantastic. They're 10W, include a USB C fast charger, and are the only all fabric designed Qi chargers I could find. I was seriously impressed. They've actually put some thought and effort behind their Heyday brand.
Just design the form factors for one another. Have a protrusion or depression in the device needing to be charged and the opposite in the charger OR just a depression in the charger as big as the entire phone it is designed for so that there are specific locations for specific devices where they easily fall into the proper position. Form factor changes could force customers to buy new air chargers; seems like something right up Apple's alley.
3:28 “I bet these cost, like, a thousand dollars each.” *Introducing the IPhone PD+, a stunning replica of our previous device but with 100% more play-doh.
@@sawyercunningham7658 not exactly, for once Apple actually tried to innovate. haven't finished the video so I don't know if it's covered but they tried to allow a device to be placed anywhere on the pad in any direction, a good idea in concept but terrible in practice die to the amount of coils needed.
It could have worked if there was a smart system involved where the charger can sense which coil to use (better solution would be to have a moveable coil inside, safer at least)
Why not put magnets inside the AirPower lined up with the power cords inside it so when you put your phone on the air power, the magnets attract eachother therefore hold it in place.
Maybe something to do with differing coil size for the Apple Watch which uses a modification of the Qi standard. I’ve seen 1 overlapping coil charger come to market - boasting dual device support and free placement in the X axis (like a line). It uses 5 coils and is made by Choetech. No Apple Watch though but it’ll do new Airpods and an iPhone just fine. It is ugly though. What I’ve gone ahead and pre ordered is the slicecharge pro. It has the same 5 coil setup plus an Apple Watch charger - in a smarter and safer looking package. Should ship in a couple of months. Real shame about AirPower but at least it’s for the better. Maybe in the future...
probably problem was also with apple watch(it does use magnetic charge and not like iphone coils) and it was very hard to put it together well at least they try it maybe in few years we will see it working :)
I really wanted it to work. Seriously, I have a management system to charge my iPhone X and Watch and thats not to mention my other Apple. Devices like my iPad Pro and and MacBook Pro. Really just wanted something that could put my phone and watch down on at my night stand on and not wake up in the middle of the night wondering if I plugged in or not.
I still think wireless charging tech is still in its infancy. I look forward to the day I can place my phone or laptop anywhere on a desk and it will charge. We just aren’t there yet.
What if they make really thin coils (about the half size of one coil) and make them not overlap and not touch the other coils. It would not be able to be a mat though: it would need air ventilation cooling. It would be able to charge while getting rid of that overheating problem and make your devices charge (almost) anywhere on the pad.
Only changing magnetic field can induce emf, so you need a coil to change the current and the magnetic field presented by the coil to actually induce current in the phone and charge it
Why not turn on each coil for a short amount of time, switch over to a different coil, searching for the device until a device is placed on, starts drawing power, and uses that coil to charge the device instead of having all 32 constantly on?
Or a coil made out of a magnet that would just have the opposite charge of the one placed in the phone hat would be on some kind of track in the shell of the device. Idk that might mess with the electromagnetic charging tho
I also think Apple wants to get rid of wired charging altogether. Much like when they dropped the headphone jack. But they waited until they mastered Bluetooth and their AirPods were perfected. I think that’s what they’re doing now with charging. They’re waiting.
Seems more likely that they did figure out how to do it but couldn't figure out how to do it at a feasible cost. e.g. a $199 charging pad would never sell, especially not when there's $10 ones at target and $5 ones on amazon
i already have a solution, instead of circular coil, u coil around the circumference then work your way inside without having a bunch of circular coils
@@Zetsuke4 It's not a coil if it's not circular. Unless I'm misunderstanding you, what you're suggesting won't work. The wires need to be tightly wound around each other otherwise you won't get the induction required to produce an electromagnetic field. Wires that aren't tightly wound will be just that, wires.
@Tyger That's not how physics works. Simply put, the inductor works like a spring. Which means it gets its properties from its physical shape. Unless it's that shape it won't work. Therefor simply increasing the voltage won't do.
@Tyger I'm not guessing. I have an Electronic Engineering degree. The coil shape takes advantage of how an electrical wave is just a moving magnetic wave and by coiling it basically makes the electrical signal act as though its stationary thus producing a magnetic field.
It charges your 3 devices at once and it also burns your house down.
JC Maldonado What a steal
Lol
Now I’m homeless
l o l
And kills my entire family, yay!
JC Maldonado it doesn’t explode, it overheated
The real reason is that apple couldn't figure out how to prevent non-apple products from charging
Heheh
hah. seems realistic, huh.
that would actually be their easiest problem to solve, different device draw different amounts of current and the pad could quite easily detect that and prevent devices from charging
Most likely
Very valid point, a very Apple thing to do. I also just think they know they can keep selling cord chargers that break all the time (maybe even change up the port again lol)
Phil schiller didn’t look convinced when he said “our team knows how to do this” he knew they didnt have a product.
張泰銘 read the article. It’s trash
They had just acquired a company to do it, but it wasn't ready. And even if they did solve it, what if the final product ended up costing $600... that would be unacceptable.
@@WinterCharmVT Well, people paid $1000 for something that did the same thing as a $50 product.
@@jqyhlmnp The article he shared is actually very accurate. Engineers on RUclips have disassembled Apple products and pointed out design flaws on the main board of them that lead to overheating (which is very bad), warping, or shorting of circuits, causing predictable malfunctions with the products.
We're not talking with heavy use, we're talking the boards were designed to fail from day one. None of the engineers caught the basic flaw of balancing the power on the board, which leads to electrocution (overheating) and destroying the phone slowly.
I'm no expert, but you can look this stuff up. Some of what they've done is just beyond shady. They promise more than they can deliver and then do a shoddy shortcut to get it done.
@@lbch_youtube Thank you for this. I've seen engineers going over shortcomings in the engineering... Its good to see a statement with all of that in one place.
Joanna stern please dont ever change the styles of your videos. Most tech videos nowadays are all either generic af or super unoriginal but her vids are always so unique
Agreed. Although I don't like the WSJ this video went right to the point. No useless introduction, no sponsor spot.
Watch unbox therapy
Uh... How did this get on an apple vid?
*DON'T* watch unbox therapy if you want to keep your brain's cellular integrity.
@@manamanaman well he does do honest tech reviews, there's nothing wrong about his channel unlike some tech channels where all they talk about is how awesome apple really is when in reality they are the most non innovative "tech" company there is when all they do is copy Samsung! Unbox therapy is one of the most awesome tech channel there is on RUclips
We can put this in the "First world Problems" list. Lol
Apple said the product couldn't pass them high standards but in reality it didn't pass the government regulations from FCC.
Koba Kobayashi indeed... thats why i dont believe in pr lol
Koba Kobayashi source?
@@sajedm9156 Here you go. ifixit.org/blog/14883/what-finally-killed-airpower/
Koba Kobayashi Did you even read your own linked article? What about ‘theory’ you don’t understand. They made a guess what could be the issue.
‘iPhone, AirPods and apple watch’
Me: wow I want some apple watches for my ears and AirPods for my wrist 🤯🤯
kotryna right
am i the only one who thought it said “why airpods died”
perrie x daily no
No
No
Yes
Me
Joanna Stern and her team is really in a league of their own with these videos. Always so creative, informative and entertaining. Bravo!
It's the classic case of don't count your chickens before they hatch. Apple promised a product that isn't technologically possible yet. At least for mass consumers. Next time. Maybe next time.
Let's wait for the tech to be ready so that Apple can again announce the most courageous and innovative charging pad yet.
@@chlemtom1 when the tech is ready.. Some chinese company would have done it before apple..
@@chlemtom1
There are already companies making this. For example Logitech has one embedded in their mouse pad. Apple just sucks as always
Noel Modesto hey better than releasing a product that breaks when you open it.
The tech IS ready, there is a chinese company that sells them for about €20, its just that apple is too big into ripping people off, that they are trying to find the most inefficient way of charging to make it seem like its the phone thats the problem so you buy a new phone
You can just tell it’s a Joanna Stern video
Actually, I can’t because I’ve never heard of this dang chick.😒
VERY nicely done - short, Easy to understand, and funny. Good job!
0:59
"my AirPods"
*puts down fake Apple Watch*
"my Apple Watch"
*puts down fake AirPods*
The charging coil technology is hard to place many inside a charging pad. Logitech spent years developing it for their mice and it’s expensive
especially hard to make it out of play-dough
Apple....a trillion dollar company.....expensive to make?
Red Flag Taken Apple spent a lot of money on it and still couldn’t get it to work
I really liked this vid! Madamme, you got yourself a new subscriber!😎
0:59 You said it in the wrong order.
Wow post malone
are u gonna live
Kalumrai no
Kalumrai the "word"?
why cant they use one big coil that covers the whole pad
I don’t think Apple wanted a “Galaxy Note 7” controversy on their hands.. which would result in more backlash than just scrapping the idea all together.
They shoul5neber lied and and announced somthin5and failed to produce it all together...2 years they had.. it don't take 2 years to make something so simple... seems all apple and its fans has no common sense because you can't and nor will achieve this without a fan or air ven system hahahah...
Great! Always love your video
Awesome video. Big fan of yours, Joanna Stern- since I was reading tech in middle school over ten years ago, LOL.
great demonstration It made me happy
What if they mounted a cooler below the mat to actively cool the coils? it would be thicker but honestly that could work. Maybe the real issue was interference. All devices should probably need to accept same voltage and amps to not interfere. So maybe the real problem was with the devices as well. They were not all compatible with the same charging input. It still sounds like a good engineering challenge. Honestly they may have figured something out. They probably just didn't wanna ship a really huge bulky loud charging mat.
I see Joanna I click like before watch that’s how good she is :)
Honestly much better than releasing a defective product
Ice banna or just another wireless charger without any special features.
Loved the clay presentation 😆
Wall Street Journal said the Apple greatest achievement in the title.
Wireless charger.
Your presentations is good.
easier solution just use square coil wit coating on them and the put them side by side very easy fix and also the shape of the coil have a minor change so there is no worry about it
1:38 Real talk here, Target's more expensive $25 pads are fantastic. They're 10W, include a USB C fast charger, and are the only all fabric designed Qi chargers I could find. I was seriously impressed. They've actually put some thought and effort behind their Heyday brand.
Probably would’ve been more possible if they eased up on the coils and made it thicker. Sure it wouldn’t be as glamorous but it’ll be safer.
nice and clear video
More play doh videos! That was brilliant!
0:59
Did anyone notice that it was in the wrong order
gif universe Yes 🤣🤣
What I think of every time I hear about air power:
😗💨⚡️⚡️
Same
the problem with why the charging doesn't charge just about anywhere is almost purely the metal back case which ruins the signal.
I think they should like put big coils and like some space for cooling coils or pipe
Just design the form factors for one another. Have a protrusion or depression in the device needing to be charged and the opposite in the charger OR just a depression in the charger as big as the entire phone it is designed for so that there are specific locations for specific devices where they easily fall into the proper position.
Form factor changes could force customers to buy new air chargers; seems like something right up Apple's alley.
u said the word form factor now i want to punch you in the face multipletimesveryhard
I love the attitude - great
2:20 where did you get the page of the iphone x!!!!, whereeeeee plz i need it
awesome play doh presentation.
Is it possible to change the shape of the coils?
3:28 “I bet these cost, like, a thousand dollars each.”
*Introducing the IPhone PD+, a stunning replica of our previous device but with 100% more play-doh.
I have a charging pad for my tablet and I also have to Lin it up just right
They screwed up the order 0:58
Looks like they filmed the video then did the voice over later, maybe previous take didn’t work out... who knows
Also, if you have a case on your iPhone X, wouldn't that interfere with the charging?
No
Awesome video
Great video
It's all good, just wait for Samsung to figure it out then slap your precious apple logo on it and call innovation
i knoww
Samsung already has a charging platform thing like that.
@@sawyercunningham7658 not exactly, for once Apple actually tried to innovate. haven't finished the video so I don't know if it's covered but they tried to allow a device to be placed anywhere on the pad in any direction, a good idea in concept but terrible in practice die to the amount of coils needed.
give the tech a decade or two before it works better and it gets cheaper
LOL samsung had wirelesss charging WAYY before apple
It could have worked if there was a smart system involved where the charger can sense which coil to use (better solution would be to have a moveable coil inside, safer at least)
Love the video..
It was uploaded on april 4
April4rce
Can't they make a version with 3 mechanically moving charging coils inside so it lines up instead of having 32 stationairy coils?
Why not put magnets inside the AirPower lined up with the power cords inside it so when you put your phone on the air power, the magnets attract eachother therefore hold it in place.
Maybe something to do with differing coil size for the Apple Watch which uses a modification of the Qi standard. I’ve seen 1 overlapping coil charger come to market - boasting dual device support and free placement in the X axis (like a line). It uses 5 coils and is made by Choetech. No Apple Watch though but it’ll do new Airpods and an iPhone just fine. It is ugly though. What I’ve gone ahead and pre ordered is the slicecharge pro. It has the same 5 coil setup plus an Apple Watch charger - in a smarter and safer looking package. Should ship in a couple of months. Real shame about AirPower but at least it’s for the better. Maybe in the future...
They could’ve always placed 3 coils inside AirPower instead of like 10 (or however many they were planning on including).
probably problem was also with apple watch(it does use magnetic charge and not like iphone coils) and it was very hard to put it together well at least they try it maybe in few years we will see it working :)
I really wanted it to work. Seriously, I have a management system to charge my iPhone X and Watch and thats not to mention my other Apple. Devices like my iPad Pro and and MacBook Pro. Really just wanted something that could put my phone and watch down on at my night stand on and not wake up in the middle of the night wondering if I plugged in or not.
wait omg i was charging my iPad when those sounds came up I thought my charger was gonna break
Airpower evaporated in thin air!
You're Pretty Good At Playing With Sculpture .... 🌝
Why not fit 2 little edges that your phone can fit in between, so that the charging coils are correctly alined every single time.
I loved the content and the comment at the end! Literally can probably box up some playdough and sell it for 1k with the Apple logo on it...
Thats exactly what i thought when They demoed airpower the first time. How were they able to get so much active area. Well, they couldnt.
I still think wireless charging tech is still in its infancy. I look forward to the day I can place my phone or laptop anywhere on a desk and it will charge. We just aren’t there yet.
Some devices and furniture are starting in implement wireless chargers into them
What if they make really thin coils (about the half size of one coil) and make them not overlap and not touch the other coils. It would not be able to be a mat though: it would need air ventilation cooling. It would be able to charge while getting rid of that overheating problem and make your devices charge (almost) anywhere on the pad.
Why doesn't apple just make it so that they magnetize to the center of the coil? This probably doesn't work but I'm curious
Play-Doh? LOVE IT!
Why didn't they just place a magnet above and below each coil on the pad and do the same on the phone?
Only changing magnetic field can induce emf, so you need a coil to change the current and the magnetic field presented by the coil to actually induce current in the phone and charge it
I like how you're using play doh as prop
Why not just make really big coils??
Why don't they use a big coil for the base thats how it can transform to all devices
ooh revolutionary, a big charging pad.
Instead of calls the coills the could use fractal antenna Design
1:46 I actually thought my phone was charging
0:57 a usb type A plugged directly into the AirPower? That doesn’t make sense
Why not turn on each coil for a short amount of time, switch over to a different coil, searching for the device until a device is placed on, starts drawing power, and uses that coil to charge the device instead of having all 32 constantly on?
Or a coil made out of a magnet that would just have the opposite charge of the one placed in the phone hat would be on some kind of track in the shell of the device. Idk that might mess with the electromagnetic charging tho
@@apalmer12 Or even just a coil on a track, with a magnet, and a magnet in the phone. Why is apple's manufacturing so bad?
0:57 lightning port not usb
But who cares 🤣
issa dead
Why they dint make a big coil
jobs would have found a way to make it work like somehow making the AirPower case the coil inside itself. Let’s hope apple will bring it back
If only we could get the animations
I Think AirPower Is Good Just Put Exact Lines Of Where To Put It
Don’t know if I’m being stupid but could you not just have one big coil that has enough out put to charge multiple devices
Hit like if you feel It's a Beautiful Presentation
No bishop
Hi
Apple: airpower is gone for good.
Me: Yay!
I also think Apple wants to get rid of wired charging altogether. Much like when they dropped the headphone jack. But they waited until they mastered Bluetooth and their AirPods were perfected. I think that’s what they’re doing now with charging. They’re waiting.
Why don’t they just make the shape of the coil like the shape of the airpower model in that case maybe it can work
Because it doesn't work like that i believe
I like the play-doh it’s creative
They should use cooling system
It's not that big of a deal people. Just charge them in different sockets or use an extension chord.
U can see his concerned face while doing a presentation
Just use big coils?
I feel a better name for wireless charging would be contact charging because after contact with the charging base it will start to charge
0:59 Did you purposely swap the airpods and Apple watch on purpose.
video needs QUALITY CAPTIONING - it's not accessible for millions without CC
Seems more likely that they did figure out how to do it but couldn't figure out how to do it at a feasible cost. e.g. a $199 charging pad would never sell, especially not when there's $10 ones at target and $5 ones on amazon
This is apple we're talking about. They never cared about feasible costs for the consumer to begin with.
“if it feels to good to be true, it probably isn’t”
1:24 My nightmare... why would you do that!
Can’t Apple change the shape of the Wireless Transmitter Charging Coil?
They just want you to buy chargers for everything.
Also for their new products not to blow up because of way too much coils...
I wasn’t there like 2 different charging cables
I so hope that some other company will perfect this tech before Apple.
i already have a solution, instead of circular coil, u coil around the circumference then work your way inside without having a bunch of circular coils
@@Zetsuke4 It's not a coil if it's not circular. Unless I'm misunderstanding you, what you're suggesting won't work. The wires need to be tightly wound around each other otherwise you won't get the induction required to produce an electromagnetic field. Wires that aren't tightly wound will be just that, wires.
@Tyger That's not how physics works. Simply put, the inductor works like a spring. Which means it gets its properties from its physical shape. Unless it's that shape it won't work. Therefor simply increasing the voltage won't do.
@Tyger I'm not guessing. I have an Electronic Engineering degree. The coil shape takes advantage of how an electrical wave is just a moving magnetic wave and by coiling it basically makes the electrical signal act as though its stationary thus producing a magnetic field.
@@JonasHamill thanks for the explanation