Love the look of the torpedo boards the blue-ish really just does something. Also this is a great implementation of a "monoblock" as opposed to the full cover things on the aqua and the like.
That ledge contact design on the VRM heatsinks is simple enough that someone with a mill could very easily mill their own existing VRM heatsinks to fit that monoblock. I really like the idea a lot, and I seriously hope other manufacturers do adopt it and offer trim pieces if necessary as you mentioned.
Well most VRM heatsinks aren't solid blocks of metal so good luck milling them. And then how many PC enthusiasts have access to a mill? I would say less than half a percent.
Interesting idea, but with the opposite approach, what if EK had 'bolt on' VRM heatsinks to their monoblock. You buy one block, and simply bolt on the VRM heatsink you need for your specific board, instead of building/buying unique monoblocks for each board
they used to have aftermarket vrm heatsinks, sadly there 80mm long instead of 100mm so can't be used on newer VRMs. as for machining my own VRM heat-sinks, hack-saw, file, copper bar, and some normal 40x40x25mm pin-fin heatsinks to attach to the copper bar, it works. it's pathetic that I can get 14c improvement with some peasant tools and 20 bucks of scrap-copper bus-bars and off the shelf aavid thermalloy heat-sinks (375124B00032G), lol.
Monoblock makes a lot of sense in itx z690. The super tall mobo heatsinks closing In from every side are really eating into what low profile downdraft coolers can do. Especially when they also have the double stack m.2 riser
@@iamdmc That guy has no clue how this high end mobo works in NO fresh air 0dB case. (everything watercooled except my Seasonic 600 watts fanless and RAM). It works stupidly perfect with 300-400watts and NO fresh air. 😂 20°C room temperature. Instead he waste a lot of time for 1-2FPS RAM overclock. Thats fuckin stupid. 😂
The stupid thing about this board is that it's obviously aimed at people building a custom loop yet it lacks a feature that only custom loop builders would use: 2-pin temperature headers. They did the same with the Carbon EK.
Just get a set of 60/80/100mm length VRM waterblocks from aliexpress, Copper plates and a file can be used to compensate for any mismatch in dimension.
Also the water pumps I've seen have had stainless steel water-contacting components so it's proven completely fine. Stainless steel is stainless largely because of its lack of reactivity, so it's perfect.
The ILM cover says LGA17XX/18xx, so there will probably be at least one 18XX socket that uses the same ILM and coolers as 1700. So that should be the same coolers until at least 15th gen.
Your point about reusing the block on other boards makes me hopeful that MSI reuses the design and offers them without new blocks. Monoblocks are so frustrating that they are one time use items, same issue on GPUs. I dont want to buy new blocks every build, so id love to buy into MSI or whoever that lets me easily reuse it.
When you said "the mono block could fit in other motherboard", which MSI motherboard are you referring to? I am trying to use this mono block for "MAG Z690M MORTAR WIFI". The torpedo MB VRM heatsink looks the same as "MAG Z690M MORTAR WIFI", do you think this mono block is compatible with Z690M Mortar？
There's no way. The Mortar has curved heatsink surfaces with a higher z-height. This Torpedo board has lower, flat surfaces for interfacing with the monoblock.
I would love to see this block on the Z690m mortar wifi! Vrm heatsinks look similar between those two. I think it would make somewhat sense as it doesn't have the strongest of vrms, something like a z690 a pro might be cool too.
Carbon EK X vs Torpedo EK X comparison? The big difference I see is that the mono block covers the Gen4 M.2 drive on the Carbon but not on the Torpedo. 5 M.2 slots on the Carbon vs 4 on the Torpedo.
I love this idea! I considered getting a monoblock for my MB (GIGABYTE X570S) purely because the design of the heatsinks really pissed me off. The VRM heatsinks are almost single surfaces but with slots on the back (I have a horizontal mounted MB so they're almost useless) and the X570 chipset heatsink has fins that are COVERED by a translucent plastic cover I had to peel off... However EKWB never made a monoblock for it and the VRM is stupidly efficient so I just went with a CPU block and was happy with an 80 C VRM, however if they made it as easy as this to go mono-block I would have certainly bought it. But of course with how MB features go those days I doubt they would ever implement it on anything other than their flagship boards to avoid cutting into their sales on them (still annoyed my MB doesn't have a boot code 7-segment).
Can't find it, so probably the answer is no ... but ... has there been a breakdown video of this motherboard. Looking to get this one (can get it for 200 euro at the moment) for a 14700K and start my first watercooling build.
The x1 pci slot being so close to the x16 pci slot is cringe. It belongs where the m2 slot is so the sound card doesn't block the fans cooling the gpu and that is if it fits. What was MSI thinking.
Really looking forward to the next installment. Building myself a watercooled system based on the Aorus Master 570s and obv dont include the VRMs in the loop, why should i lol for a stock 5950 ... :-). Cheers!
That guy has no clue how this high end mobo works in NO fresh air 0dB case. (everything watercooled except my Seasonic 600 watts fanless and RAM). It works stupidly perfect with 300-400watts and NO fresh air. 😂 20°C room temperature. Instead he waste a lot of time for 1-2FPS RAM overclock. Thats fuckin stupid. 😂
Love the look of the torpedo boards the blue-ish really just does something.
Also this is a great implementation of a "monoblock" as opposed to the full cover things on the aqua and the like.
That ledge contact design on the VRM heatsinks is simple enough that someone with a mill could very easily mill their own existing VRM heatsinks to fit that monoblock. I really like the idea a lot, and I seriously hope other manufacturers do adopt it and offer trim pieces if necessary as you mentioned.
Well most VRM heatsinks aren't solid blocks of metal so good luck milling them.
And then how many PC enthusiasts have access to a mill? I would say less than half a percent.
@@twizz420 Anything you can do with a mill in aluminium, you can do more much slowly with a hacksaw, files and sandpaper.
Interesting idea, but with the opposite approach, what if EK had 'bolt on' VRM heatsinks to their monoblock. You buy one block, and simply bolt on the VRM heatsink you need for your specific board, instead of building/buying unique monoblocks for each board
they used to have aftermarket vrm heatsinks, sadly there 80mm long instead of 100mm so can't be used on newer VRMs. as for machining my own VRM heat-sinks, hack-saw, file, copper bar, and some normal 40x40x25mm pin-fin heatsinks to attach to the copper bar, it works. it's pathetic that I can get 14c improvement with some peasant tools and 20 bucks of scrap-copper bus-bars and off the shelf aavid thermalloy heat-sinks (375124B00032G), lol.
@@spankeyfish yea your not going to be a precise as a mill.
I think WC the VRM makes a lot more sense for ITX than it does for ATX where it's spread out over a large area and has too many power stages anyway.
Agreed
Monoblock makes a lot of sense in itx z690. The super tall mobo heatsinks closing In from every side are really eating into what low profile downdraft coolers can do. Especially when they also have the double stack m.2 riser
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Buildzoid: "A monoblock I don't think is completely stupid"
Product: instantly sold out
@@iamdmc That guy has no clue how this high end mobo works in NO fresh air 0dB case.
(everything watercooled except my Seasonic 600 watts fanless and RAM).
It works stupidly perfect with 300-400watts and NO fresh air. 😂
20°C room temperature.
Instead he waste a lot of time for 1-2FPS RAM overclock.
Thats fuckin stupid. 😂
good reminder about the washer mod too!
Feels like somebody has been paying attention to my bitching and modding. I like it.
The stupid thing about this board is that it's obviously aimed at people building a custom loop yet it lacks a feature that only custom loop builders would use: 2-pin temperature headers. They did the same with the Carbon EK.
Just get a set of 60/80/100mm length VRM waterblocks from aliexpress, Copper plates and a file can be used to compensate for any mismatch in dimension.
Also the water pumps I've seen have had stainless steel water-contacting components so it's proven completely fine. Stainless steel is stainless largely because of its lack of reactivity, so it's perfect.
It's the metal with the worst W/mk you can choose. Not exactly confidence inspiring.
@@thatguy7595
but, it's neutral. that's the point of it being used.
Could possibly use a copper "shim" on other boards for a similar function for moving heat as the VRM heat sink does.
or just stack the thermal pads. I really don't think the transfer needs to be all that efficient.
The ILM cover says LGA17XX/18xx, so there will probably be at least one 18XX socket that uses the same ILM and coolers as 1700. So that should be the same coolers until at least 15th gen.
Your point about reusing the block on other boards makes me hopeful that MSI reuses the design and offers them without new blocks. Monoblocks are so frustrating that they are one time use items, same issue on GPUs. I dont want to buy new blocks every build, so id love to buy into MSI or whoever that lets me easily reuse it.
that would be cool if that VRM Heatsink 'ledge' could become a thing rather than a one off.
When you said "the mono block could fit in other motherboard", which MSI motherboard are you referring to? I am trying to use this mono block for "MAG Z690M MORTAR WIFI". The torpedo MB VRM heatsink looks the same as "MAG Z690M MORTAR WIFI", do you think this mono block is compatible with Z690M Mortar？
There's no way. The Mortar has curved heatsink surfaces with a higher z-height. This Torpedo board has lower, flat surfaces for interfacing with the monoblock.
They basically should use this design going forward on all their motherboards. One Mono-block to fit them all.
I would love to see this block on the Z690m mortar wifi! Vrm heatsinks look similar between those two. I think it would make somewhat sense as it doesn't have the strongest of vrms, something like a z690 a pro might be cool too.
Carbon EK X vs Torpedo EK X comparison? The big difference I see is that the mono block covers the Gen4 M.2 drive on the Carbon but not on the Torpedo. 5 M.2 slots on the Carbon vs 4 on the Torpedo.
I love this idea!
I considered getting a monoblock for my MB (GIGABYTE X570S) purely because the design of the heatsinks really pissed me off. The VRM heatsinks are almost single surfaces but with slots on the back (I have a horizontal mounted MB so they're almost useless) and the X570 chipset heatsink has fins that are COVERED by a translucent plastic cover I had to peel off...
However EKWB never made a monoblock for it and the VRM is stupidly efficient so I just went with a CPU block and was happy with an 80 C VRM, however if they made it as easy as this to go mono-block I would have certainly bought it.
But of course with how MB features go those days I doubt they would ever implement it on anything other than their flagship boards to avoid cutting into their sales on them (still annoyed my MB doesn't have a boot code 7-segment).
MSI's marketing team is drunk, it looks so stupid when every channel has an unboxing/overview of this same board in the same week...
Also the prices make MSI drunk. This costs at most 100$-150$ to manufacture
@@Multimeter1 ah yes because cost of manufacture is all that matters.
Can't find it, so probably the answer is no ... but ... has there been a breakdown video of this motherboard. Looking to get this one (can get it for 200 euro at the moment) for a 14700K and start my first watercooling build.
Is the normal version msi z690 torpedo good for 12900k? What ddr5 ram would you recommend under 200$?
socket lga17/18xx would indicate its going to be the same for quite a while
The x1 pci slot being so close to the x16 pci slot is cringe. It belongs where the m2 slot is so the sound card doesn't block the fans cooling the gpu and that is if it fits. What was MSI thinking.
I predict a 10-20-degree difference in vrm temps
Really looking forward to the next installment. Building myself a watercooled system based on the Aorus Master 570s and obv dont include the VRMs in the loop, why should i lol for a stock 5950 ... :-). Cheers!
Can we get an 'anyway' counter 😂
Buildzoid and I ARE best friends :)
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That guy has no clue how this high end mobo works in NO fresh air 0dB case.
(everything watercooled except my Seasonic 600 watts fanless and RAM).
It works stupidly perfect with 300-400watts and NO fresh air. 😂
20°C room temperature.
Instead he waste a lot of time for 1-2FPS RAM overclock.
Thats fuckin stupid. 😂
im GAYYYYYY
I was hyped until I heard stainless steel.