Life On The Psych Ward (Forensic Psychiatry Patients Documentary) | Real Stories
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- Опубликовано: 17 сен 2022
- The wards of forensic psychiatry are among the most dangerous places to work - this is the first time cameras have been allowed inside this hidden world. This program is a moving account of people coming to terms with the trauma they have caused and hoping for another chance.
The wards are home to more than 100 patients, many of whom have committed serious acts of violence and are considered too mentally disordered to be in prison.
Patients are eventually released but how do you decide to discharge someone who’s committed terrible acts of violence in the past? This program follows patients as they face the prospect of discharge after decades under lock and key.
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I was a chronic alcoholic / drug addict and ended up in psychiatric wards on multiple occasions due to drug induced psychosis.
I eventually got clean after 7 stints in rehab, completed a diploma in mental health and now work as a Peer Support Worker at a psychiatric ward. What a journey!
Salutes, Sir. A question please. Is there any medicine that helps with alcoholism? Thank you!😊
@@ranjittyagi9354 There are 2 that i know of. One is called 'Antabuse' which is a pill you take that makes you very sick if you drink alcohol.
The second is called 'Baclofen' which is a mediction that is supposed to help reduce cravings.
@@ranjittyagi9354 I think Wellbutrin could also help. Please reach out to a doctor to ask because there might even be other medications that might be available too. I myself am an opiate addict who is on Methadone. This medication has literally saved my life.
@fupamongoopa640.........CONGRATULATIONS..........as a fellow ex psych patient, I am sooo impressed, and very proud of you!!!!! KUDOS to you, friend, and MUCH RESPECT!!!!!!!💙🌈💙🌈💙🌈💙
Good work!
I was a patient in psych ward (schizophrenia) and those people saved my life. I will always be grateful for those people and the people who continue to help me now. Their jobs are so hard and so meaningful.
I sure hope I had helped at least one person during my nursing career.
@@susanbeckham7236 Same here.🙏
I'm a degen addict I'm not mentally ill outside of being an a complete degen addict so I have a fault in my situation. I took benzo type drugs, but I don't think they should be giving these drugs like candy and they do in my country.
Glad to see your comment and know some get the help they need. Watching these always leaves me feeling helpless.
@@Skoopyghost What’s a degen addict?
My mother was a psychiatric nurse at NIH for many years long before mental illness was accepted as a disease and not something to be ashamed of. I have to be honest, as a 16 year old girl (who shared a car with my mother) when I would go pick her up I honestly thought these folks were faking it. Fast forward many, many years... I'm now 64 and I've been working in mental health since I was 30. It is a very complexed field that has come so far and hopefully further in the future. I learned so much from my mother throughout the years... Kindness, understanding, compassion and empathy to name a few of her lessons. Thanks Mom! ❤️
We really are still in the infancy of learning about the human brain! I mean we're not even that far away from the time when doctors were performing lobotomies thinking it would "cure" mental health concerns (spoiler: it just destroyed the patients' brain, didn't really cure them)
I wish I could pick your brain about my adult daughter.
I’m at my wits ends trying to help her. She refuses to help herself and bc she’s an adult… I can’t force her into help.
She’s diagnosed bi polar and major depression disorder. However, some new pathology has presented recently and WHOA!
Our family needs help.
I don’t know what to do. I wish there was an appropriate place near me. We have a behavioral health institution but it’s a money maker only.
They put ppl in for 3 days, while insurance pays. Then they ship them out the door. I guess if someone is suicidal 3 days is as long as they have to keep them.
So, I get those 3 days here n there… but no real help. No real treatment.
@@gamgamdabest8327 I understand... PM me if you would like. Hopefully we can find some options for your daughter and family.
Its come far from none barbaric treatment and abuse, still, near far far from where treatment of should be..
My daughter and I went to the NIMH two different time in the mid 2000’s. We were enrolled in 2 different genetic studies for bipolar/MDD. May times professional in the mental health field will treat you the worst. The staff, doctors and nurses were wonder. Treated us with such dignity and respect. It was unbelievable.
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I did a stent as a nurse on the psychic ward,before I moved on to the Emergency Department,some are far too dangerous to be let out,some if they take their meds can function in the outside world,but unfortunately once they're released,they often stop taking the meds for various reasons and end up back on the ward,its a vicious cycle in a system that's broken and no one if given a choice, would choose to be severely mentally ill.
I have worked in this field, and have great empathy for the mentally ill, but there are people who should not be trusted in society, because their thinking is not normal. There was a man with schizophrenia, had a long list of state hospitalizations, and then most of the state hospital's were closed, and he lived in an apartment with mental health worker's who brought him his medication, and checked to see how he was doing mentally. The man was always very kind, but when he was off the meds, total change. He had a girl who was mentally ill staying with him, and he took a crock pot and beat her to death with it, and she bled so much, it leaked into the apartment under him. He was sent to the forensic center some 20 year's ago, and is never getting out. The only way to let these people out safely, is to court order medication, and the kind that is by injection that lasts a month. They don't like the side affects of the medication which is why most don't take them, or fake that they took them. I know of several cases where a mentally ill person has either killed someone, or nearly killed someone, and they are walking with everyone else, a bomb waiting to go off. G-d bless.
People born blind don't have schizophrenia
There is a FAR greater risk for people who are mentally ill to be victims, not offenders- so don’t be so quick to judge.
@@died4us590 court-ordered month-long medication regimens in the USA sound like a horrific slippery slope considering how corrupt our court systems are. It's terrible what he did, but that kind of precedent should never be set here. They should send medications for free to these folks' homes, and send mental health aides around to check in on them regularly, daily if necessary.
Yup I've taken of psych patients once they reach the LTC stage (should have still been in a mental health setting) and even if they can't move quickly, they're still dangerous
One thing that always bugged me about "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" is that its takeaway kind of boiled down to "They're not crazy, just different! You don't need to 'fix' them." This is nice in theory, but the truth is that a lot of folks with mental disorders are in a great deal of pain. If somebody fully agrees to take meds, they aren't "trying to become normal"; they're trying not to be in pain all the time.
When you read the book it clearly mentions that the main character is trying to fake it to get out of doing prison time.
Actually, you should read the book. It's about much more than the surface .. it's a great book > and Ken kesey is a fantastic author
These places don't help though.
I've been several times, several places...
Arrogant, ignorant, Doctors that have no Experience of whatever's actually goin' on...in a protected environment against laws & authorities...with guinea pigs as patients.
It's ½ step shy of Auschwitz...
you got that d am right they are not crazy or insane that is so disrespectfull to talk about people like they are lunie tunes that is so rude i hate concervative people because all they care about is thhem selfs and the f ing justist sistem is a big deal for me because people decerve better treatment then donled trump mr senor chubby dumpedty.
That's a nice observation from a movie.
Just keep the suckers locked up.
I use to be a Porter in the Hospital and cleaned wards like this on a regular basis. So many people are in these facilities I was kinda surprised.
Always treated the patients with respect, knocked before entering their rooms and cleaned with empathy and compassion for the people.
Be grateful for what you have.
Porters and cleaners were the kindest of all staff in a ward. Nurses were loud, rude, and uncaring. Doctors were worse.
During one of my stays, the only person who treated me like a human being was the housekeeper. He talked about overcoming his alcoholism to me. Super kind individual and I hope he is still doing well.
Right.
You're a good egg
God bless you. My brother has schizophrenia and when he's in psychosis little things like knocking before entering help him SO much. Not just with helping him have some sense of dignity at a time when he doesn't feel it (being hospitalized against his will), but also literally with his delusions of persecution. When people just barge in on you it reinforces your delusions that people are out to get you (which comes from a deep-seated sense of self-loathing imo). So thank you. Your kindness has made a real difference in people's lives and might have even made recovery faster
I feel sorrow for Tony's parents. It must be awful to fear your own child. It must be equally sad to have people you love fear you.
But how do you know the suffering Tony had from his parents-I don't believe children are born this way, unless a brain scan can prove some sort of anomaly. He still craves his mother's approval and love. Wish I was a fly on the wall if he ever gets alone time at home with her.
@@ImaBeliever - It’s sometimes a combination of factors. It’s sometimes one or the other. Simply because someone is like that does NOT mean they had some abusive parents. 🤦🏼♀️ Sometimes it’s brain chemistry & nothing more.
No, his mom is lying. She is. I can tell. He might have been what he is regardless but she is divorcing herself from him for her own benefit. Easy way out.
That's why these defects should be EXECUTED, not coddled and living off tax payer money.. It's disgusting
@@ImaBeliever I agree. And I feel so bad for Tony when his mum said about him being outside and yelling "mum help me". That brought a tear to my eye.
On June 2 of last year, I had a psychiatric episode at work, and as a result, I was taken to the hospital for five days. Once I got out of the hospital, but my discharge papers said that I’ve been diagnosed with bipolar two disorder.
It is a struggle every day to live, but I take my meds every day.
❤Hugs and I appreciate your strength. My father has been inconsistent with meds since he got them 30 years ago. It’s been wild.
Meds are life changers. I have the same disorder, and have been on my meds for 20 years. I only get angry about one a year, and haven't had a manic episode since. It's taken the world off my shoulders. God speed to you, I wish you all the happiness in the world 💜🫂
@@MsMichigan p0
@@MsMichigan pot 52
Just keep taking your meds they will work . I have bipolar 2 and schitzo effective disorder I live a Normal life but without meds I didn't.
Looking after these folks is a hard job. I volunteered at a mental hospital, they allowed volunteers to read the case files at that time. Most of the patients, the large majority, were people who had been interfered with sexually in one way or another, often as children. It was described by a therapist that that form of abuse in a child is like a bomb going off in the psyche, because there is "shrapnel" which affects many aspects of their lives. Everything becomes difficult.
Though I paise you for volunteering in a hospital, the staff allowing ,unpaid folks on the ward to read medical reports is horrible. In my country a married spouse is not allowed to read case files without the patients written permission. Not even know the diagnosis without a court order unless it’s HIV or Hep C something like that they are encouraged to tell the spouse.
@@blazefairchild465 I disagree. Volunteers are screened, and often develop substantial relationships with patients, more so than the staff in many cases. It's very helpful to know their histories. I think that far outweighs any problems with privacy. It doesn't matter how things are done "in your country". What matters is the best interest of the patient.
@@dougrobbins5367 if your feel it’s great for non credentialed persons to read private medical documents on patients & had deep relationships with them More power to you. I am happy I live here, where nurses are not even allowed to peer into past records but are allowed to take a verbal history & ask the Dr if she may look at past records.
@@blazefairchild465 NOn-credentialed? That's the only criteria? I told you the advantage. You had no response.
i have a similar problem. i have a few friends that have been in mental joints before, but they mostly had violent interference not sexual.
these guys are difficult to have a drink with, they start yelling out, punching furniture etc. they havent punched me yet, but one of them stabbed me a few years ago.
i told the guy i wanted nothing to do with him until the scar heals. you know the scar healed, but i still dont trust him. im gonna say its not healed.
As someone who had a best friend go through schizophrenia and paranoid delusions when we were 18 and saw how he degraded and then began to think and believe we were all demons who were plotting to kill him, then yeah, I loved Jonathan like a brother, and now I'm glad he's in a place like that because he tried to kill his neighbor, then he tried to kill me and my other best friend. We got lucky by finding out about his plan by getting home before him and seeing the trap he had set for us. Some people can't be out in the world. He got out a few times and got put back in but finally the American justice system has apparently had enough of him to place him under constant care
🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️ That's so sad
How did he try and kill you?
How is he now?
I've struggled with depression and ADD for decades but these poor folks make me feel so much more fortunate with my mental health.
Depression, anxiety and adhd here.. At least I'm glad I don't have to live locked up.
Yeah it can be crazy...
We are
@@alysononoahu8702 ... I know right!!! We definitely are kinda crazy! 😵😵😵😂😂😂
The way my life as a single parent and disabled has been definitely been a rollercoaster ride for me for sure, suffering sizures and stuff like that, my pride got bruised very bad to the point that's gone as the bible teaches us abt being a proud individual and how he's the one in true control and not really us in many things that revolve around us all the time... For those struggling, have faith and all will be alright... 😇💯🙏
The obvious trauma some of these patients have is very sad, I hope they find peace and make the planet a little more safe.
Untreated, developmental trauma is the cause of sooooo many problems.
The personal history timeline is such a great idea. We can know in our minds what we've been through, but to set it down like that on paper, chronologically... I can see how that could help us unpack all our trauma and get an idea of how each thing impacted us, and how each event may have built more trauma responses onto the previous traumas.
I immediately thought that I need to do that when I saw it! I’ve sort of always wanted to, as I have problems recalling things from before my teens. I would love to jot those memories down when they come to me. I think I will 😌
Yes!! It can teach you A LOT about yourself, often times a surprising amount. I've been in and out of therapy for almost 20 years now, and for the vast majority of it I didn't get much of anything out of the process. But a few years ago, I went to a city-funded mental health clinic and my case worker asked me about my family. As I was talking about them, she started drawing a family tree-looking diagram with my immediate family, parents parents, and so on. I figured out that my mom was an emotionally-unavailable parent because her own parents were that way, and that when my dad passed when I was 12 she was all I had, which meant the crucial emotional support I needed at that time was nonexistent. I learned that I have this permanent feeling of inadequacy because I never got praised for anything like doing well in school, it was just expected of me. So never being told I was doing well meant I always pushed myself to do better, hoping my mom would finally tell me I was making her proud. There's so much that's messed up about me and it all links back to my family, and that realization hit me like a truck. Even now, a few years after working with that case worker, I am more keen on where my behaviors and thought processes may come from because I can link them to how I was raised. Although it was a tough pill to swallow at first, there was some relief in knowing that these feelings aren't my fault, that not being praised or loved openly was not my fault, and the emotionally-dead person I am today is a product of generations of neglect. Making those timelines absolutely helps to unpack traumas, and can often find sources of behaviors that might never occur to you otherwise. I'm 31 now and I have so many trauma responses built into my personality (fawning, mostly) that I do not know how to have a healthy relationship and just recently sabotaged the only good one I ever had. I'm praying I find some way to fix myself or I'm going to live a miserable, lonely life and never be up to my own endlessly high standards. I could have done so much better for myself if the many therapists I'd had in my teens would have made that diagram for me.
@@gothsinn23 I just want to tell you, I'm PROUD of you. Even though I don't know you, how far you've come, speaks volumes on what a mature, insightful person you've become. Damn proud of you.
@@gothsinn23 hi! I wanted to let you know that this comment is of real significance, for me at least, and so I thank you for making the effort to describe your own experience with such healing realizations. That being said, I can’t help but notice the last portion feels quite different in tone, as if (mind my possible mis-read) you were in a more actively-triggered mindset and maybe unable to remind yourself of the truth of your earlier response: that your distress and sense of unworthiness is NOT real; “that these feelings aren’t my fault” because they’re NOT. I hope that by mentioning what I noticed, ultimately it will be helpful, not hurtful, because it’s intended purely for support
The first treatment center I entered years ago for drug and alcohol addiction has us do a personal drinking/drugging use timeline. It was used to show me that over time my usage got worse and worse and that I could not "just drink a beer or smoke a joint" like I thought when I entered rehab, I thought my only problem was cocaine addiction...wrong.
Knowing how hard my own garden-variety mental illnesses have been to treat and control, I can only imagine how the patients on the ward feel. I sincerely hope they continue to heal and make progress.
I feel you there. That's what made me want to watch this documentary. I've been diagnosed with anxiety, bipolar depression, PTSD, & a fear disorder (I can never remember the name). Watching this makes me realize how fortunate I am to be able to have the access to medical care & I always take my medication. People who suffer from these illnesses are seriously so easily changed at any second, simply being looked at the wrong way. I can understand how. 😔
@@brandystapleton2713 Fear disorder like agoraphobia (afraid to leave the home)?? Or is it something specific, like health related or a phobia
I’ve got a host of issues myself,
@@JustAnotherY0te mine is a fear of the dark, sleep, & storms. Things out of my control it consumes me. I fought addicted for 17 years without realizing all the drugs was hiding the mental health issues. Once I got clean & started realizing okay something isn't right I started going to the Dr to seek help. I now see a Dr that's my general practitioner, a Dr that helps me keep my addiction under control, & a therapist. I also see others such as dermatologist, eye Dr, ect... but I know without the 3 I named off 1st I could easily lose it at any moment. The hardest thing I ever heard from a Dr (so far) was that I would be on medication forever. That was a major gut punch. If you don't mind me asking, what are some of the things you deal with? If it's too personal I get it. Just wondering if you may deal with some of the same issues as me & have any general tips to cope with day to day life dealing with mental illnesses.
I have been diagnosed with server depression and ptsd
I was hospitalized almost 50 times for a misdiagnosis. I am now going to meet with a forensic psychiatrist to get myself "cleared". The hospitals were so abusive- and they were the ones who made me sick. Some people have really horrible reactions to psych meds- I am one of them.
I appreciate those who get into this profession to make a positive difference. A great many psychiatrists I encountered had severe personality disorders.
I noticed that when I was an undergrad, many of the young folks going into psych had some serious issues of their own.
I had the same issues. I have anxiety ( like everyone else), but if I take any meds, it changes my whole personality. I act really weird, so I won't take them anymore. So, Dr's give up on me.
@@TheresaONeill-ze3jb Turn to bible and allow CHRIST to be your therapist, psychologist and psychiatrist. No man nor women fits to be one. All are sinners and without glory, all are tempted and suffer the same.
All are expected to REPENT AND BORN AGAIN, to LIVE HOLY AND GO AND SIN NO MORE.
All are weak in the daily fight between their spirit and flesh.
All these therapist, psychologist and psychiatrist, this world provides, can do is:
to deceive and steal.
They deceived you through all these “diagnoses” and they steal your money, through all the pills which you “need”.
In short: they poison your mind and your overall health, leaving you with neither one.
Therapist, Psychologist and Psychiatrist = Field where no human soul, never ever going to fit of being an help, no matter the among of years spend in “medical schools” or the decree gotten from there.
ALL of us are daily deceived, no matter the walks of life.
Do not trust one nor to try to be one.
1 John 4:1 KJV
Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
You're so right...I'm sorry dear
The U.K. seems to come out with the best Psych ward / Mental health documentaries. Hope to see more!!
Agreed... I've watched a few on here &, they all been great to watch & their so informative imo but I love this channel... anyways have a wonderful week and hope u have a great day!!
And wonder?????
Good videos prayers to all the people may god bless them
@@armcollector5856 I love you
It truly does, but the Canadian one “out of mind out of sight” is spectacular as well. A shame the U.S. won’t allow it, but after Willowbrook i understand why they’d want to hide it..
Hat's off to the people who work in these establishments.
Tony is not capable of watching after a child in my opinion
""I gotta get out of here, i have a child i have to take care of"" lol
I worked on a psych unit as well as in some group homes for kids up to 18. It was honestly like a unit where just by facial cues, said watch out. I found it fascinating, but after seeing some truly awful situations I had to leave.
PLEASE LET SOMEBODY KNOW IF YOU SEE A CHILD LIKE THIS. EVEN A 4 YEAR OLD!!!So one little girl who was living in abhorrent conditioners who kept telling me she "was pagan", & she said she " had to be doing all the awful things to animals and people because her parents named her Morgana...a witch back in history."
The Counselor had gone out for a home visit, & said they had an outhouse, they only had well water, and that going inside the filthy trailer, it truly felt evil. Morgana took control over that trailer when it was just her & her dad living there.
I won't say her cause of death, but I WILL SAY THIS:. WE HAD KIDS WHO WERE ALREADY ACTIVELY SUICIDAL AT THE AGE OF 5. THEY WERE RUNNING INTO TRAFFIC, JUMPING OUT OF 2-3 STORY WINDOWS, CUTTING THEMSELVES...INCLUDING TRYING TO CUT INTO THEIR WRISTS, & STORING UP THEIR MEDS & THEN O.D. ON PURPOSE.
IF YOU EVER RUN ACROSS A KID ACTING IN THESE OR OTHER DISTURBING WAYS, PLEASE.... PLEASE CALL 911 OR 988, THE NEW MENTAL HEALTH EMERGENCY HOTLINE.
THESE KIDS NEED TO BE PUT ON A 5150 (AN EMERGENCY 3 DAY HOLD IN A PSYC UNIT), AND CONNECTED WITH APPROPRIATE THERAPY, ETC. IF THEY HAVE PSYCH RX's, THEY ARE FORCED TO TAKE THEM, & IF THEY HAVEN'T BEEN DIAGNOSED BY A PROFESSIONAL, THEY WILL BE EVALUATED & POSSIBLY GIVEN MEDS.
JUST KNOW THAT ITS NOT ONLY TEENS & ADULTS WHO CAN BE INCREDIBLY SICK WITH A MENTAL HEALTH DISEASE. I SAW KIDS WHO WERE QUITE DISTURBED AT ONLY 3 AND UP.
OH, ONE MORE THING. ITS EXTREMELY COMMON FOR PATIENTS TO DECIDE THEY DON'T NEED THEIR MEDS BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING BETTER, OR BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE THE SIDE EFFECTS. THIS IS WHY MANY PATIENTS WILL KEEP GOING IN CIRCLES. THEY GET OUT WHEN THEY'RE BETTER, STOP THE MEDS, & THEN DECLINE AGAIN.
ITS AN EXTREMELY FASCINATING PLACE TO WORK, BUT IT CAN SOMETIMES BE VERY DIFFICULT.
ONE OF OUR REGULAR PATIENTS, AN ELECTRICIAN, WHO EVERYBODY LOVED, BUT WHO WAS ALMOST 7 FT. TALL CAME IN ON A FRIDAY FOR HIS MONTHLY APPOINTMENT WITH HIS PSYCHIATRIST, & WE COULD IMMEDIATELY TELL HE WAS HALLUCINATING & NEEDED TO BE PUT ON A 5150 HOLD. SO THE PSYCHIATRIST JUST WANTED TO GO HOME & NOT PUT HIM ON A HOLD, LEAVING MYSELF & 1 OTHER COUNSELOR TO TRY & EASE HIM OUT OF THE BUILDING SINCE IT WAS AN 8-5 CLINIC.
WE FINALLY GOT HIM TO COME OUT, & WE LEFT.
THE FOLLOWING MONDAY, WE LEARNED THAT HE HAD KILLED HIS MOTHER, & THEN ACTUALLY CLIMBED UP A TELEPHONE POLE & DIED BT ELECTROCUTION
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WE WERE FURIOUS WITH THAT PSYCHIATRIST FOR IGNORING HOW DISTURBED HE WAS WITH HIS HALLUCINATIONS!! HE COULD HAVE BEEN FORCED TO GET BACK ON HIS MEDS & GOTTEN STABILIZED ENOUGH THAT HE WOULDN'T HAVE KILLED HIS MOM (WHO HE TRULY LOVED), & WOULDN'T HAVE CLIMBED THAT POLE.
HIS PSYCHIATRIST WASN'T WILLING TO STAY OVEFOR A BIT TO GET HIM OFF TO A PSYCH WARD. SO BECAUSE OF THAT, WE LOST BOTH TRULY NICE PEOPLE. IT WAS HEARTBREAKING, & I FINALLY GOT TO A POINT WHERE SITUATIONS LIKE THAT WERE BOTHERING ME A LITTLE TOO MUCH.
I'M A SUPER COMPASSIONATE PERSON, & GOT KIND OF "ATTACHED" TO SOME OF THE PATIENTS. I WAS FEELING CONCERNED ABOUT SOME OF THEM ON THE WEEKENDS, WHICH WAS NOT HEALTHY FOR ME.
SHEESH, SORRY THIS IS SO LONG...BUT ITS A SUBJECT THAT' S VERY DEAR TO MY HEART.
did your caps lock button break half way through??
@@sacredpath3232 Oh my goodness, I had no idea I must have hit it. It's a subject close to my heart, & I wasn't looking at the screen!!!
@@karenwalker3770 you're a wonderful person!
You should NEVER treat children with neuroleptics or psychoactive drugs in general, those are highly addictive brain damaging drugs on a brain that's still developing. Of course they contract withdrawal psychosis, when they go off of them. Because the meds are drugs, nothing else. They should never have been hooked up on that crap to begin with. There is nothing wrong with the childrens brain but a crappy environment. I am totally supportive of helping children, but drugging them up with some of the most dangerous drugs available to mankind is nothing but despicable. This isn't help. They need support and love and not drugs!!!
Alone ritalin takes away 5cm from the growth they should achieve. And there's tardive dyskinesia for neuroleptics. They are neurotoxic and brain destroying. Do your research.
Damn
There are two things which are extremely healing which some institutions in the U.S. and Australia have implemented for prisoners, which would be equally healing for mental illnesses ...one is the care and training of rescue dogs and the other is the planning and creating of gardens .
Gardens seem like they would have mixed results to me, after the patient gets discharged they probably won't have any real garden to go to, they'll probably move into an apartment after leaving.
@@whenindoubtmutemyownmouth5180 With or without a balcony it is absolutely possible to have an indoor garden. One benefit of the Internet and library books is learning how to do so with incredibly little money. When a person develops confidence from learning one way they maintain the confidence to make adjustments. And *that* is the true benefit as they begin to apply it to their life overall. 🤗
@@whenindoubtmutemyownmouth5180 I think it’s maybe intended to foster nurturing and empathy or pro-social values, not life skills per se. I have heard it works really well for some inmates who suffered horrific child abuse, for example.
@@whenindoubtmutemyownmouth5180 I think it’s maybe also intended to foster nurturing and empathy or pro-social values, not life skills per se. I have heard it works really well for some inmates who suffered horrific child abuse, for example.
There were cases of animal abuse...
Schizophrenia is a disease of DISORGANIZED THINKING.
Their logic center does not work properly, so sequencing is very difficult. Even paranoia and hallucinations are a thinking type which does not follow logic or any form of sequential thinking. For that matter, a very young child who you think is just "imaginative" could be a symptom of Schizophrenia. A young man I babysat when he was a child "imagined" his toys moved and talked to him. However, he was TWENTY-TWO (22) years old when his medication was changed to work on the Schizophrenia, and BOOM, a different loving, caring, and teachable young man emerged!
He was not teachable in the past. Now, he can follow instructions to achieve various goals! What an amazing transformation!
Listening To Tony,s mum talk about her son illness is absolutely heartbreaking. The families of people who have mental health issues usually suffer in silence. Really sad !
I have mental health issues and I can tell u it hurts my parents knowing i'm suffering mentality. I sometimes feel like a burden to them.
Be careful my friend! Burdening someone is because of certain choices we have chosen to make within ourselves. ...But people with mental health issues do not choose to be like they are, you have a condition not from your choice... carer's and family members know this..
Dude are u Yoda? Because that was very wise
It’s that a little too harsh? There are things in their lives like abuse and bullying that caused them to be like this. It isn’t their fault their like this.
It always makes me so happy to see the people in these documentaries get better and be able to get back into society.
...but...they can kill again....
Why does it make you happy these people have raped murdered etc to others ?
@@lesleyrussell8200 exactly
@@lesleyrussell8200 it’s not fair everyone who kills someone obviously would have to be mentally ill all of them are so it’s unfair to spilt the people chuck some in jail and some get more freedom
@@lesleyrussell8200 WE ALL can kill. Everybody is a potential murderer.
Worked in locked psych units across the country (Kentucky, Ohio, Virginia, Iowa, Massachusetts) ranging in children to geriatrics for 7 and a half years of my 9 year nursing career.
It was great experiences but I got very burned out. It's a tough field to work in
Is there no structure to their day? I mean work or planting trees or vegetables or occupancy therapy . In bed all day, is madness
It depends on the patient and their treatment plan. Most patients have an extremely rigid structured plan. When the patient is nearing release or came in as a voluntary commitment they may have less structure.
My beloved Mother worked for some time in state run psychiatric hospital. Potential for serious injury to staff was very high. Was good she transferred out and worked as a dedicated nurse in different areas. She worked for 30+ years.
prove it
@@hoss-lk4bg prove what?
I commend your mom for her dedication to help others. Takes a special kind of person to work in that field.
@@WVMtMOMA she was a special kind of human being. But make no mistake she was nobody fool. Strong Russian beauty with brains.
I worked in a similar institute in Germany as a nurse for 10 years. It ate at my soul.
Mine too and that's why I moved to the Emergency Department.
@@ruthsimpson8436 I studied to become a college teacher and teach psychiatry ow
America’s lawmakers want to do away with the benzodiazepines they would ask for, take willingly, and avert violent attacks by approaching staff for help.
NO citizens should have to live among someone who it is one substance away from stepping someone 13 times! You just send it 10 of these people home to kill their elderly parents and leave all their families in grief.
SENDING THEM OUT BECAUSE THEY WERE NEVER NOT BE A DANGER TO OTHERS?
I want to help others
Our heavenly Father blesses those who bless others
I have a Borderline disorder as well as severe depression....seeing some of those people makes me feel like i still got lucky to be able to deal with that the way i do.
These people are murders rapist. You are no where near them they are disgusting men
Everyone deals with stuff and it’s never okay to hurt another
Borderline here as well. Was in and out of psych wards for a few years for violence against myself and others. It's been hard but I am lucky that I have recovered.
@@levig6375 I'm so proud of you! It definitely not easy but possible. I myself am living proof... I work on it everyday but it gets easier every day.
@@kendalvarelas8474 I've noticed the same thing the longer you put real work into being happy the easier it gets😁
Thank God for the women and men who care for our mentally ill and thank you to the patients for sharing their struggles with us, It definitely takes a lot of courage. ❤
That poor mother breaks my heart 😔😔
I come from a family where there is a lot of mental illness. My great aunt had paranoid schizophrenia, and died in an institution. My uncle had paranoid schizophrenia, my sister has bi- polar 1 and anxiety issues. My brother has adhd and a personality disorder. Then there's me. I've been diagnosed with bi-polar 1, personality disorders and schizo -affective disorder.
So watching this was like watching different members of my family. People need to realize that these men are ill, not evil. They have done some bad things, but does not make them evil. There is a big difference.
When I took psychiatry my senior year they took us to a mental hospital. What an eye opener that I will never forget
Wow I have so much respect thank you 🙏
Only in Senior year??? Strange.
@@iloy1218 what are you thanking them for
Psychiatry? I'm sure you mean psychology. Phychiatry is a speciality in the medical field. You first have to have been to medical school before you study psychiatry.
@@katella I fear the psychology professor who taught that student must be very disappointed in him/her.
Chapeau to all the people around the world who put their heart and soul into helping these people. And good luck to every patient.
Thank you! It's not easy and a lot of people can't do or handle it... its hard af but someone's gotta do it... with love and compassion though.
Well said
"Random things will happen " says the murderer. Yes ! Please, allow this one out among the community.....
Do not understand why there is an imperative to return violent convicted criminals to the general population. They have shown they are desensitized to heinously injuring others. Can that ever be forgotten (or forgiven) ? If there is no control over psychosis in the individual, can it be learned/taught ?
Isn't it an instinct ?
@@130crowd money, cost….that’s the reason. 🤷🏻♀️
So agree with you old timer So agree
Lolz exactly just asking for it. We as humans need to face the fact that we all have a shadow side. Some are worse than others.
You’re not wrong, he’s dangerous. He didn’t kill that guy, though. I’m not saying he wouldn’t kill somebody, I’m just saying he didn’t kill that guy that he stabbed. That being said usually people that go and do violent stabbings end up killing somebody eventually. He’s dangerous, very dangerous.
I am in the States (USA) and I wish that we had a facility even close to this one just for mental health in general. My son has been multiple times to facilities here in the US and most especially the state hospitals only want to keep them a few days medicate them and send them back home. If they actually worked with them in therapy like they do at the hospital in the film my son might get better.
You have to understand this isn't just a "hospital" this is also a jail of sorts, these patients are also offenders with violent crimes in their history. You would NOT want your son to need a hospital like this one 😔
Twin Valley in Ohio, yet again as stated by a previous commenter, you’d never want your child there. It’s for the criminally insane and no cure even with meds ill.
I think what she’s saying is that the US(A) needs a better mental health care system, which got dismantled by Reagan back in the ‘80s. It’s not about criminalizing insanity, but we need to help those with mental illnesses to _prevent_ these crimes from occurring. Honestly, throughout the world we need access to legitimate mental health care (as well as medical health care).
You have those facilities - but the doctors don't think it is necessary. If you are a doctor, okay then. If you are not - who are you to comment on their methods? Who are you to say what could happen if x or y?
I understand where you are coming from. My ex husband is schizophrenic. My daughter and I are his only support system. We have had him put in a mental hospital and they only keep him three days. We get so frustrated because he needs help before he hurts himself or someone else. His paranoia and delusions get out of control bust sadly there is nothing we can do.
No offence, Tony scares me. I wouldn't want to be sitting next to him on a bus or in a restaurant. He's got 36 convictions and they still let him out. He's not innocent as he looks and acts like he's child but he isn't . What a good actor he is. Most of the
Men shown on this program give me the creeps.
educate yourself on mental illness
Most men in general are.creepy in seedy disco's in shady parts of town!
go to a shady disco and men will try rape you .don't blame Only patients with mental illness these patients prob raped as kids by priest or someone so cut them some slack !!!! At least these guys are on hospital and taking meds unlike people in public who go to work, then rape or kill at.night, and get away with it especially rich men in high jobs get away with lots seedy stuff
Stop judging people by an hour long program. Also they're sick have a little empathy.
As a retired psych nurse this took me back into the locked wards I once worked in a very insightful doco and sensitively presented indeed it shows what the average person does not see and are ill equipped to understand mentality ill people are the same as those in hospital for physical issues in my humble opinion ...there are few mental issues that are not treatable but at the higher end of the scale those released often forget to take their medications and end up in the same nightmare that brought them to the wards in the first place sad but true but we must never forget they are human beings in need of assistance to face their demons and insecurities no matter where those things came from or where caused by. For whatever its worth to new people in the nursing system take a step back and realise whatever the client /patient is telling you they believe it to be true then work from there ..........
You must very well know that what a patient tells you is not always true. Especially in forensic psych. You must have discernment AND compassion.
Remember when the main stream said Psych patients don't belong behind bars. Sorry but some do. A woman who fried yes fried her baby in a large frying pan while it's clear she is not in touch with reality giving her medicine 💊💊💊 is still risky. We use to have a large community area on psych hospital grounds. That worked alot better than putting patients in their own apartments. At least in the safe area they had a pool a theatre a store church, synagogue
You’re a retired psychiatric nurse and you don’t use punctuation?
@@christar9527 Am a retired nurse not an English professor
Are you trying to say psych nurse ?
My mother was psychotic throughout her entire life but she kept it quite well hidden to outsiders, often with alcohol. One winter however she went into a really bad acute psychosis seeing literal small aliens trying to invade our home. So she was admitted to a psych ward. They gave her electric shock therapy and heavy medications. She was never really helped by any of it except it stopped that particular episode. When she was released she was under heavy sedative anti psychotic medication which just made her live in a slow motion unable to do much else than sit on a couch days on end. When they started reducing her medication, it seems her psychotic symptoms creeped slowly back and she started treating herself with alcohol. So she was pretty much constantly drunk mixed with the medication except for a day or two in a week. I don't honestly know if treatments have improved since then (her episode happened in mid 1990s) but she was never really cured even to the point of being able to go to work or function normally in the society. It's hard to say what would have been the best option, to keep her in the ward long term or what they did and release her as outpatient with very infrequent follow ups. When she was low on her dosage she was often really aggressive and would try to pick a fight with family members. My sister claims that my mother tried once to actually kill her. I don't know the spesifics of that but I wouldn't be surprised that it actually took place.
Im so sorry you had to endure this agony. My mom was psychotic and hid it away for 30 years. Then it erupted and she called police saying she killed me. I was standing next to her... she was admitted to ward, drugged to zombie state. Released, got better, stopped taking pills, relapsed... drugged again, got better, got worse, now stays in elderly home for sick people. She claims shes not seeing or hearing anything strange, but she cannot live by her own anymore... i saw the drugs working, and i saw them not working ... no shocks. Nothing else available... its agonizing
No treatments haven't been any better since then. I was in a hospital and the medication they gave me made me sleep for about 15-16 hours a day. When I mentioned it to the doctor she asked if I was feeling better and when I told yes, she says what's the problem
@@jarkachalmovianska7812 I do think treatment is better today then 20 years ago. The 3rd generation antipsychotic meds can work very well. It use to be haldol and thorizene only. They have injection clinic in which patients go once a month and it’s long acting. I think there is hope for future developments of drugs or treatments for the mentally ill.
God bless you all...I too am ADHD, with manic depression. Its a battle every day. Peace and mercy for all...from Buffalo NY USA.
Yeah, that's what closing the psych hospitals did. People don't get the treatment they need and society had to pick up the slack with uneducated people who don't want to receive care.
I'd give them chances. I feel much more empathy for a person who was sick when they did what they did. If you're psychotic, then you didn't know what you were doing. Because you can't tell reality from delusion. I think they can rehabilitated. It's the monsters in prison who know what they're doing, and yet choose to hurt people anyway that I have zero empathy for. These people are alright. It's the prison inmates that I don't think should be fed or housed on tax dollars. I think r and m should equal auto-death penalty.
So very sad that people suffer greatly in their minds. Lord help them.
Lord help their victims. (and victim's families)
@@leheli7838 Ignorant comment ..
The lord that allowed these mental conditions to form in the first place? Yeah no thanks…
You want a mythical god to help the people that it supposedly created to be the way they are?
Explain how that would work.
@@jabe3780 Yep its all nonsense, just another form of mass control and false hope. nothing more nothing less.
People like Tony's chaperone deserve nothing but respect.
Seriously. I wish I was that calm and collected.
Great doc, love what the psychiatrist said at the end about trying to do something different and fix these folks instead of just locking them away. We desperately need facilities like this in the US.
If we stop paying people not to work it would even be possible to fund these types of facilities
@@kevmoful I think you need to take some time and research more about the US government and what departments/projects/etc spend the most money, because unemployment payments are not the reason we can't afford better healthcare (and many many many other things).
@@kevmoful It is possible to fund them. No one wants the higher taxes that come with it
250 staff for 120 patients/inmates? You won’t find this ratio where I’m from.
In the part of the USA I live in they closed down almost all the mental health hospitals. They are a lot of people walking around who need to be in one.
I really feel sorry for these people. I pray all these patients get well.
They actually didn't. It's now called "The Ninth Floor". Every hospital in the nation has a psyche ward at the very uppermost floor or two. Each state still have mental hospitals-an Eastern, Western, Southern, or Northern-for violent folks. So yes-we still have them. We just don't lock people up like we used to. Used to put epileptic and eating disorders in them but no longer.
Thank Reagan and the GOP for that.
Yeah that's sad , a lot end up in prison and get treated terribly too
Great part of our homeless problem consists of individuals with psychiatric illness or addiction. It was the ACLU that forwarded the idea that people should be free to choose to live on their own terms and not be confined. This occurred in the 1970 s with the advent of psychiatric drugs. Of course the afflicted are free to not take their meds either. It’s very sad.
I also live in Tennessee and mental hospitals are closed down and the mentally ill live on the street so sad , It's heartbreaking prayers for them .
Thank you for this! Just watched the one you posted awhile back and wish there was more!
Everyone is *broken* in this world. Some, are *more broken* than others. Show kindness and empathy to everyone you encounter --- because you never know what that person has survived + is going through. Never look down on anyone, unless youre giving them a helping hand UP! ✌
A beautifully made documentary. I have immense compassion for the men. I hope that they have a variety of activities they can do in the wards that give them a sense of pride and accomplishment. The one gentleman is a tremendous artist.
Fantastic content, as always!! A fascinating look at mentally ill patients.
I really hope that everyone gets better, no one should have to deal with these mental health problems
So true
no one should have to live with these people out freely in society. Boo hoo. What if was YOU that got stabbed and r a pe e.? These people don't deserve a second chance. They're extremely dangerous and have like 95% re offense rate
Please share the stats that back up that 95 percent reoffend rate
Some people can't simply just " Get better " with a lot its about keeping them under control
" SATAN ? " Are you alright ?
GET RID OF THAT NAME !!!
& do it right NOW !
What a terrifying concept.... to let a violent offender out into the community to " see how they deal with it,"
I agree but you'll never know how well or fixed he is untill you try it.
Why would you even want to risk the dangers and possibly potential victims?
Plenty of violent offenders loose in the government and the church. Be more scared of them who have a cloak of decency!
It’s called having a chance at humanity. Especially if they are getting the proper care/counseling/treatment they do deserve a chance - mental illnesses is a DISEASE.
If someone had cancer would you deny them treatment?
@@maggiefreestone391 yup. People tend to wear rose colored glasses when it's the rich and powerful manipulating and commiting crimes
"...You know what I mean yeah." I couldn't be around someone who keeps saying that after every sentence.
I know what you mean, yeah
@@J0Ecorreia LOL
One thing that I never understood in psychiatric wards is how they strip you of your humanity!
Its human rights abuse and they profit off it.
Are you delusional? Did you stop taking your meds?
My goodness, these stories are so tragically sad. Inside a few of these folks, you can clearly see how much work they've done to help themselves. I too struggle with mental health issues, I can understand the anger, confusion and the rage. I have never been institutionalized, unfortunately my brain works differently... from years of trauma. I've learned so much, and have grown tremendously.. I take my anger out on myself. I really feel for these folks, staff and patients alike.. it's difficult. Much love from Canada 🇨🇦 ❤️ I wish I could hug Tony's lovely Mum.
That mom telling us about how her grown son cries out for her in the street when she's hiding inside, that was very sad.
there must be a negligent reason for her to not go out there and hug him. parents can create mental illness in children-and even when the children grow up-they always want the love from their abusers.
@@ImaBeliever Interesting comment
They both need help !
Love seeing behind closed doors. Real Stories has the best Docs!
How they could ever Consider letting Tony out in public is crazy. His parents Know he is capable of killing and it shows on his face and mannerisms. IJS😯😡
He just needs to stay away from those legal highs. They are mind bending
Everyone is capable of killing most just choose not to do it
@@micheleletterman695 he is more than capable
He is prone.
Yeay, that's quite a gamble with others safety
And when the specialists release these individuals out into the community, they release unpredictable violent offenders onto the unsuspecting innocent public. These prisoners do not deserve to be in the community.
You've not watched the documentary. It's not a long term solution for anyone to lock people away for ever, because they never get the chance to reform. There are so many people that never had any form of help and have no idea how to deal with themselves. If the professionals working with these people deem it safe I trust them.
Most of the people released from this type of maximum security place will kill again. It's not if. It's when. They should never be released for the good of the community.
You can't fix a damaged brain or "broken" mind, you can only try to medicate it! All the therapy in the world, is only temporary! These types of people can only handle one minute, one day, at a time.
The positive thing about personality disorders is that you can recover. I was personally there but now no longer hit criteria after a lot of work and still on going therapy.
Exactly! I have been hospitalized several times for attempting to unlive myself or having unliving ideation. It was been 7 years since my last crisis and I am grateful for my loving family and team of doctors/therapists. I take my meds on time every day and am happier than I have ever been. My husband and I just celebrated 30 years together. He has always been there for me. I am bi-polar II and have borderline as well. Quite the combo!
It depends whether or not it’s treated early. For those diagnosed late (after 35) like myself, there is less chance of remission. I have been told I can improve, but that’s it. Therapy for life.
I think when caught earlier and also with the introduction of DBT which has been considered groundbreaking for this condition, people now do recover and go on to live relatively normal lives. Also like everything else there is a spectrum. I've known people with BPD and they've never been involved with behaviour to others on such a huge scale like here. Because PDs are often trauma response it's quite possible with a lot of work a person can recover and unlearn trauma. Something like schizophrenia is more chemical imbalance in the brain and it's rewiring
Which is why there is no " cure". However medication offers a lot of hope, the side effects are often severe . A friend of mine has schizophrenia and is on a huge dose of antipsychotics, they help her function much better but she's put on nearly ten stone .
@@spklyunicorndo you take anti depressants or a mood stabilizer, if you don’t mind me asking?
@@lenamarie2697 I don't mind. I take lithium, seroquel, lamictal, and zoloft.
I feel sorry for them he was right. You can't just stop it. You can't just say I'll stop being depressed and it goes away. It doesn't work that way and people that don't have mental issues will never understand. I have bipolar disorder, PTSD, and antisocial. I get really nervous going to public places and I have really bad anger. I react without thinking and it gets me in trouble. It's really hard going through it and hard trying to explain to others how you feel. God bless them and I hope they succeed in this life.❤
The brain is very complex and mysterious. You never know when it's gonna change, whether from abuse or on its own. I pray that one day doctors and scientists will completely figure it out.
I like that Tony's mom reminded Tony of the 1x month. Boundaries are important and healthy.
Honestly the big guy with 36 convictions seemed like He was just telling the Doctors what they wanted to hear...
I must say John's art work is absolutely beautiful.
It seems to me if someone is violent they should not be allowed in public.
At least there are hospitals for the needs of the mentally I’ll. It seems like here in Los Angeles they either put them in jail with everyone or let the be homeless on the streets. They have closed down a lot of mental hospitals here in California
Closing down mental hospitals years ago across the US was a HUGE mistake.
Thanks to saint Ronny reagan'. Look it up.
Patton State Hospital was a snake pit. Electroshock therapy without anesthesia, forcing women to be naked for meals and treatments, sexual assault, degradation of every sort.
Until the 1970s, husbands could have their wives committed to Patton for histrionics... usually crying after a beating. Police would arrive, transport the abused woman to the hospital, and drive away. No court order, just dump and drive.
Exactly why homeless population is huge in California.😢
I had a distance relative who stayed in a mental institution in the 1960s ;place wasn’t great but she had a warm room,meals and her pills every day. Due to the closures in Canada in the 1970s(Let’s blame Ronnie LOL!) the average mental disease sufferers have it worst.
I am sorry that all these people are struggling with mental health issues and I completely understand how difficult is but the guy that stabbed the guy with the camera and his girlfriend and another occasion should never be released again he obviously will reoffend and already has when he stopped taking his medication and his paranoia starts up again…😢
I feel for the mother talking about how much she’s tried to help her child, and also for the man who was just saying he felt trapped in the mental health hospital and just wanted to start his life and be with his daughter… It’s beyond sad but it truly is the best place for them to be🥺
These wards should be shown to every person going to court for serious offences so maybe people wouldn't try to plead innocent due to insanity without actually being mentally ill
Those that are "well enough" to be out on leave from the hospital for the day, they should have undercover staff, follow them. One mess up, don't allow the go out any longer....
This looks very interesting. Can't wait to watch!
James acknowledgment of other humans not wanting to be around the “past him” is a very telling sign that he truly does accept full responsibility. A narcissistic person could never say what he did. Which is a huge plus on his recovery.
as someone with a PD, when he lost his wallet, I really felt that. There is nothing on this earth that makes me angrier faster than losing something. Phone, wallet, keys, those sorts of things. Usually I just put them down and totally forget about where, but I always go ballistic when I lost things ;u; more power to you, James.
Yes, I feel so frustrated I have the same problem and more
He handled it amazingly well, considering. I felt anxious just watching his realisation that he had lost it.
The anxiety is all encompassing and instant. “ you f--d up again, congratulations” going through your head in big red letters.
I know…I thought he handled it incredibly well.
Its bc you dont trust others because you know what you would do in that situation
Greatly insightful and upfront information. I have always been interested in ALL aspects of mental health history. We really have come along way from shunning people with mental health issues but we still have a long way to go. More empathy and compassion is needed not to mention funding in the right areas and support for the support people also. Progress is always being made and the medications and treatments have gotten better and also not over medicating and knowing there's other ways to help people with mental health issues. This particular place seems well functioning and they seem cautious with day release etc. In appearance anyway. Firm boundaries and structure is really important and people feel safer alot of times in this environment. I am grateful towards everyone who have taken these jobs to care for people in these institutions and realize how hard it must be at times but also rewarding in seeing people improved and can live a better life. They all just need someone to care....we ALL do. Thankyou for the video.
Respect, from New Zealand 💕
It is true that we no longer shun the mentally ill, but now we have the opposite problem: mental illness is trendy. I can not count the number of people I have met who diagnose themselves with bipolar disorder, or depression. So while it is good that mental illness is no longer stigmatized, it is possibly worse, being trendy and fashionable.
We’ve come a long way, true, but in some ways, not far enough. Example, I had a dissociative episode whilst visiting my best friend in America. She was more than willing to help me and do whatever I needed but she wanted to talk to her priest because she felt that there might be something, or someone, else involved. I dissociate. I’m not demonically possessed. I didn’t say anything. Just said, “Ok,” but you can imagine my shock. -Saoirse, West Belfast, NI
@@PhillyAnthonyD agreed. I have CPTSD and DID and I can’t go a week without someone saying those dreaded two words to me…. “Me too!”
I think lots of folks use “mental illness” as a way to excuse bad behaviour. I have a friend who is BPD. She’ll do something really nasty to someone like yell at them or push someone and then say something like, “I have a mental illness. I can’t help it.” Being mentally ill does not mean you can deny responsibility. It does not give you an out when you behave badly. -Saoirse, West Belfast, NI
This is the kind I enjoy because of having the patiences there to tell their own stories.
26:51 This is how I learn to understand mental illness. Experiences like these, but on a heightened scale? I couldn’t imagine. I already struggle enough with my own perception of reality. There is a good person, a well-meaning person in that hospital, struggling like anyone else. It truly is heartbreaking.
Wow. Just heart breaking on so many levels....the patients, their families and above all else their victims. I wish there was a blanket answer, but unfortunately the complexity is so diverse, a solution seems unattainable
I work as a home health care worker in Ontario, Canada. The trend here is to slowly close many of these hospitals. It worries me to take care of schizofrenic, etc. individuals in a home setting, one on one
Sadly your Prime minister seems to just want to eliminate these poor people.
People need help, but I don't think that violent offenders should be let free. They can do some kind of work or voluntary work in hospital and have escorted leave.
I work with mental health patients dealing with things like this aren’t hard for me it’s a natural gift I have but I realize to a lot of people it’s difficult to handle
Thank God for ppl like you who can handle problems like this. So important to have a world with diverse gifts given onto different ppl. That is how we manage living in this world.
Many Thank you's.
@@mayc8674 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
God Bless the people who dedicate their time to help others when they need it. And God Bless the patients everywhere.
'you know what I mean, yeah?'. They need to help him with that!
Thank you for sharing this video !
As an American the idea of an escorted 1:1 outing is just fantastic. We don’t do anything like that here.
I worked in a psych hospital for 10 years and we did 1:1 but they had to start as being 3:1 and 2:1. A lot of work goes into earning their privileges but sometimes, they would run off. Thankfully they would get captured and brought back
I'm a retired, due to the onset of adult scoliosis, registered forensic psychiatric nurse. I worked for 8 yrs. in a forensic and admissions settings at one of, if not the biggest psychiatric hospitals in Canada at the time. It was in North Bay Ontario and housed almost 1,100 patents, 130 of which were housed in a forensic wing. It's very different from the treatment in Britan. More medication based here, almost to the point of putting patients in a drug induced stupor. All for ease of treatment while cutting outbursts of aggression to a minimum. It's the same almost anywhere in the world today. We jail and ignore our insane to the point of homelessness and still look down ON THEM!!! The world should be ashamed at how mental illness is brushed aside as a nuisance instead of doing what people of character would do if given the resources.
Dr cappell annoyed me when toni was trying to tell him that he gets confused by staff when it gets quiet and he doesn't know what to do next, when no one explains to him it is somewhat of a low key trigger, the dr should've listened to him and addressed what he was saying, instead of just telling him to not take the weed, again, as he does need to hear it, but he also should have been heard and dr should take that seriously also..
I know I don't know enough. I have major problems with labeling behavior an illness if it alchohol is involved. No one forces that drink its a choice.
There's some really tortured people out there. It's best to try to be respectful
to all you meet. You really don't know who's been through what, when and where...
I worked on a psych ward. Not all buttoned of these pts are highly manipulative and mean. Others were harmless and mentally ill
People like this are worthy of forgiveness, empathy, and care. However violent criminals should never be allowed back in society. End of story. To allow them out is a slap in the face to the victims who deserve justice.
That’s what I think also. No one would let a person convicted of a serious or brutal offense to be released ever so why does it matter if they have mental illness? How does that make them safer to release into society?
It is scary...what if You were one of the victims of a crime and saw the attacker walking down the street, You would be very scared. But I don't want to judge these people either, I pray everyone the attackers and the victims will heal
If it is dangerous, put them in prison. Their victims don't get a second chance. None of these people take acceptance of their actions to their victims.
I feel for that Mum. I have had to go no contact with my Son and it just breaks my heart and Soul.
As a mother, my heart breaks for Tony’s mom.
I had tears while listening to her.
You may be interested in the Vince Lee case here in Canada. The best video The Fifth Estate. Beheaded an innocent young man on a greyhound bus as well as doing other vile acts to his body. He ended in the psychiatric facility right here in the town I’m living in. I believe he was only in hospital 7 years (maybe less). He was out roaming around town unsupervised too. He got relocated, a new name and he’s a free man .
Yikes!
I saw that story. How he's being protected is beyond incomprehensible. Once he was stable, he should've went to prison.
As a Canadian our laws terrify me
Agreed. He needs to be locked up for life
yeah I remember when that happened he doesn't need to be in a public setting. that's crazy
I have social anxiety disorder in certain situations. So I can really relate to why some of these people can't go out unsupervised. It's something I've learned to live with. I just have to stick with the winners in my life and keep on trying
Tony is a really funny guy. I loved his rhyme he did when he was getting ready to go out for the day.
Good luck, Tony. And God bless you.
I was born with a chronic illness that required multiple surgeries and a lot of pain. I was bullied because I had to use catheters at school and I was angry and sick of being in pain. So I attempted suicide. I took about 80 Percocet and basically just took a nap. Left a note. Because I was unsuccessful my parents put me in a posh Private hospital in Laguna Beach California and I was there from the age of 15 and a half to 16 and a half I spent about 10 months there. I assumed I was crazy because I was in a looney bin. I was definitely not crazy!!! I just had really good insurance and my parents didn't know what to do with me but I was certainly not crazy.
I'm sorry you had to experience that. I hope you are doing better now.
@@WouldntULikeToKnow. well still have the health issues anxiety and depression with PTSD but I'm definitely not crazy! Haven't been to the nut house since! Thanks for the kind words 💜
The people think hooo they are crazy but not it’s just something we have in our head I hope you are ok 😊hugs
I agree with you. You are NOT crazy. I hope you are doing as well as can be.
@@cynthiastanley35 Thanks! I haven't been back to the Looney Hotel, I'm rockin on 🎸🤙
To be honest that guy reacted better and healthier to the fact he lost the wallet than I would..
My heart goes out the Mother near the end, but also to every patient, I pray for God's grace upon you all and that you find health and recovery.
Many were put in there when understanding about mental illness was so new. There are good people and very disturbing ones too.
Thats wild that tony family is terrified of him and he doesn't even see that his behavior is not normal
James sounds like a really level headed guy i hope he gets better or is doing better if he's progressed through the system at all
He does sound like a really level headed guy doesn’t he
It’s called antisocial PD
@@louisejeffries7155 Which he is probably in treatment to manage, just a hunch...
@@louisejeffries7155 it literally said he has bpd. How r u gonna compare that to aspd....
@@dominichowell961 exactly