I'm seeing a lot of comments about "where's the link?" This company unfortunately doesn't actually have a website yet, it's brand new. I left their email in the description, you have to contact them to purchase this exact version of the cymbal.
I got a Lemon branded 16" version of this. I needed to rewire the connection inside for it to work with Megadrum. But for USD 71, it's more than worth it.
From my own experience with 13", 15" and now 18" Lemon cymbals, I have to agree with Justin, these things are unbeateable for the price. Maybe they don't swing as realistically as the ATV ones but they feel and trigger great, and so far they held up with no problems (after intense 8 months of use for the 13"s and 15")
Glad to see you don’t have any issues with this cymbal and that the bell/ edge fix is really simple, definitely going to try to get my hands on one of these
Variety is always a great thing in this lovely edrum world! Eventhough, I would rather pick a relliable branding. I love my atv 18" ride one! That does not justify their expensive prices though! We need a better relationship between quality and price.
imo we need the cheaper less reliable options, to help "enforce" this relationship; if all large cymbals are expensive, then why would companies bother making it cheaper?
@@christianmorin1437 agree with you! Eventhough, this more affordable brands need to focus on quality, for example, they need to trigger equal on the whole surface if they sell them saying that is 360 triggered.And also the size,,, if they say 18", must be 18" not close to that. Just sayin', I like variety of election in this edrums world and I would love to get the chance to try lemon's out myself 🙂
@@Dadedrums yes i agree their very sensitive on the edge so hit the bell zone trigger at the same time rhe bell a tips i found is to turn 180degree the cymbal its trigger better
I got an 18 in tripple zone Lemon. I thank you for the videos on it. I am impressed with these cheaply priced well performing cymbals. I also ordered the hihat controller, 13, 15, tripple zones and a 15 in china and 9 in splash double zone and all chokable...for my A to E conversion...cant beat em. Get em while u can!
I bought a couple of the 14" and 16" Lemon cymbals from AliExpress. In my opinion if they are designed to work with the Roland-style rotation stopper, they should come with that part. I am buying these because I don't want to spend top $ for Roland...so I don't already have the cymbal mounts on hand. I had to buy them separately for CAD$25 each!! Other than that, they work great so far.
I really like my Lemon cymbals... I have an 11" that I use as a splash.... and I got their 15" China... they trigger perfectly, and yeah... it would be nicer to have that thinner, denser rubber... but I would definitely buy a Lemon cymbal again over pretty much any other brand because of the cost and performance.... unless it's a digital cymbal then I won't go cheap there.... but for just adding more cymbals "Lemon" is an amazing option.... I hope they up their game with their tom pads soon... I just ordered a couple of the 12 " ones to use as floor toms on my td 27kv2 .... with drum tec real feel mesh heads....
@@65Drums Yeahyeah, I know but just wanted to clarify so no one thinks theyre getting a 20" ride with the EFNote 5 or something cause theyre not selling that one yet
that my third i got 2x15inch and 1x18inch those product can put pressure on the big brand easy...they are realy good and cheap they can be beat a lot and still trigger as new ...just love it ...i aim a hihat soon ...my alesis pro x begin to be old
I got the lemon version love the 18 inch size had to switch the cable in side for the alesis strike buy it works well order 3 more 15 inch one's to replace all the strike one's there 5 years old now and alesis ride just craped out
I have two Lemon versions through Alibaba. I destroyed the cover on one taking it off, So, be careful taking the rubber cover off. I used the parts to convert a Sabian cymbal into an electronic. Grinding the edge down under the cymbol to the hight of the rubber helped. So did taking off the glue so the bell could flex more to hit the switch easier. Putting more glue or filler is bad, less is better.
I just ordered the 18" lemon ride from Ali Baba for $69 + &48 for shipping. Comes out to $117. Seemingly a great buy since I've been seeing Yamaha PCY155 /150S from eBay for $150 used (not including shipping). Not sure if I'll have to rewire it for use on Yamaha consoles. If anyone out there are savy to the the combination, please let me know. CHEERS and GOOD DRUMMING TO ALL!
Thank you so much. I have been following your channel for a while and have been searching for this exact product for a while now. Thanks for the review.
Hello Justin, I would like to ask you a question but it is not related to this video in particular but it is that it has been completely impossible for me to find among so much video of yours the one that you talked about the compatibility between modules and pads and cymbals, you will see I have the kit Alesis DM10X with the DM10 module and I am terribly unhappy with this module and browsing through forums there are people who say that these pads and cymbals are fully compatible with Roland modules and instead there are other people who say that they are not completely compatible and specifically I would like to buy the Roland TD27. Would this module be compatible with my pads and cymbals? Thanks for your help and congratulations for all the content you show us on your channel.
How would you compare the bell sensitivity to the 16" Lemon? On my Lemon it's pretty bad, especially on the sides. Overall I still prefer playing on my Roland CY13r even though it's much smaller, it just has a more reliable bell trigger.
I didn't have any issues with my lemon cymbal. The bell sensitivity on this larger one is more sensitive than my cy15R. I can trigger the bell by tapping it firmly with my finger. I'm not here to say these cymbals are the greatesting thing since sliced bread. But they aren't bad, at least in my experience.
I wonder if this works with a Roland TD1 module. Got one for starting with drumming at low volume and I consider to replace the small one Roland shipped with my kit with this one, using the smaller one as a second crash.
Hay justin,love your videos mate,I have the roland vad306 ,I have seen some videos with drummers playing mesh pads without the rubber rim,any reason for this and would it still work as normal besides damaging your sticks? Reason im asking is maybe it would give me an even more realistic drumming experience,please reply thanks in advance 🙏🏻
Hi Justin Love your videos I'm in the process of updating my A2E conversion I'm going for the edrum in module would you like me to have it shipped to you so you can do a review on it. As I'm still waiting for parts for my kit StaySafe Brian
Does the Manufacturer make anything else (snares, kicks, etc)? I need a kit and if quality is being released at great prices, then that's the direction which I want to go in.
Justin sup question is there a way to use Roland 18 digital ride (which on the way to me) or convert to 1/8 plug. I bought it and didnt realize i dont have usb on Strike module. Thanks
The Chinese do a lot of that not realizing the impression. They say this is very CHEAP, when they should use inexpensive. They use that all the time. I have an account. I've seen the lemon set. I've never heard it but I think the whole set is about 500!
@@EricFDrums I bought five 16" cymbals and two 14" Lemon cymbals off Alibaba for under $500 including shipping. Work just fine on my Alesis Dm10x and I play pretty hard.
I'm nearly sold. Can you choke it? I'm needing to update all my cymbals to choke and I don't wanna sacrifice programming one of the zones as a choke sample.
Indeed. He kept talking about how inexpensive it is but never named a price. Maybe he was just quoting the marketing literature since they sent it to him for free.
Hey I have an old Roland upgraded TD 10 and looking to upgrade. Is there a drum module that would work with the older drums or would it be better to just get a new kit. I see a lot of the newer modules don’t have all the 1/4 inch jacks that the TD 10 has. So do I just upgrade whole kit or is there a way to keep the older drums and just upgrade my module?
You could get a td27 or td50 upgrade package with the digital ride and snare. All your td10 pads will work. My brother just got the td50x upgrade. Its nice but Im surprised how good my td10 exp still sounds in comparison.
hey justin.. nice video as always... do you have own superior drummer 3 presets of drums? if yes.. i would pay for it.. is it possible to get some good presets of you if you have?
Hey Claudio, I don't sell SD3 presets at the moment. I just have one that I keep changing and messing around with for my personal kit. But if I get around to making "official" presets I'll be sure to mention it.
Hmmm, well since I no longer have a Facebook I guess it's either make another account or I'm out of luck on these cymbals. Hate when companies do that crap. Makes me kind of question the legitimacy of the product.
How do multi zoned pads work on cheaper modules? Just curious because I just have a cheap alesis nitro brain but I’m just curious if it just has three different mappings or what
@@65Drums this one would blend in really well with regular roland cymbals with a bit of difference what i can apreciate. I understand ATV going for its own look and thats fine i have the ultra high end nano-quantum particle physics ride from them and it doesnt stand out from rest of the cymbals but man, that EF note, i cant see myself bying it ever just because of the colour. It could blend nicely with a chrome rack i supose. while rambling it came to my mind i miss the white undersite of roland cymbals tho, that was nice.
I ordered the Lemon one from Alibaba but actually received an unbranded version like the one in this video. I'm having trouble with Bell triggering. I'm getting the bell sound on the bow with only a fairly light hit. I've tried adjusting the threshold and sensitivity on my TD12 but can't seem to fix it. Any ideas? Thanks.
@@markashby6402 I'm not getting the bell sound on the edge. I'm getting it on the bow. The zones are correctly wired, I'm just getting constant bell sounds on the bow.
My Roland CY13R on my TD17 kit has a tiny spot for a bell. Got frustrated and got a BT1 pad for my bell. Expensive solution to an overpriced Roland kit.
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I'm seeing a lot of comments about "where's the link?" This company unfortunately doesn't actually have a website yet, it's brand new. I left their email in the description, you have to contact them to purchase this exact version of the cymbal.
Hay mate love your vids,can you play mesh pads without the rubber rim around it?
Yeah mate course you can. Me personally dont use them. I've been making my own cymbals out of plates and other assorted items.
I got a Lemon branded 16" version of this. I needed to rewire the connection inside for it to work with Megadrum. But for USD 71, it's more than worth it.
Did you get it through Ali baba?
@@johncole4882 I got it from Lazada Philippines. After I bought it the seller jacked up the price to 100 usd.
From my own experience with 13", 15" and now 18" Lemon cymbals, I have to agree with Justin, these things are unbeateable for the price. Maybe they don't swing as realistically as the ATV ones but they feel and trigger great, and so far they held up with no problems (after intense 8 months of use for the 13"s and 15")
Glad to see you don’t have any issues with this cymbal and that the bell/ edge fix is really simple, definitely going to try to get my hands on one of these
I have had the same cheapo Pintech cymbals along some Roland and both have lasted me over 12 years now and still no issues.
Just picked one up from Amazon …. Connected to 2box module( 10 year old ) … works very well
Thanks again for educating us about options!
Thanks for watching Christopher!
My ride cymbal is a used Roland CY-12R/C that I bought for around $50 from Guitar Center.
Yo what??
Variety is always a great thing in this lovely edrum world! Eventhough, I would rather pick a relliable branding. I love my atv 18" ride one! That does not justify their expensive prices though! We need a better relationship between quality and price.
Well said
imo we need the cheaper less reliable options, to help "enforce" this relationship; if all large cymbals are expensive, then why would companies bother making it cheaper?
those big name will loose lot if they dpnt change their mind they dont hold us by the bag anymore
@@christianmorin1437 agree with you! Eventhough, this more affordable brands need to focus on quality, for example, they need to trigger equal on the whole surface if they sell them saying that is 360 triggered.And also the size,,, if they say 18", must be 18" not close to that. Just sayin', I like variety of election in this edrums world and I would love to get the chance to try lemon's out myself 🙂
@@Dadedrums yes i agree their very sensitive on the edge so hit the bell zone trigger at the same time rhe bell a tips i found is to turn 180degree the cymbal its trigger better
I got an 18 in tripple zone Lemon. I thank you for the videos on it. I am impressed with these cheaply priced well performing cymbals. I also ordered the hihat controller, 13, 15, tripple zones and a 15 in china and 9 in splash double zone and all chokable...for my A to E conversion...cant beat em. Get em while u can!
Have those all held up over 2 years? I got all the lemon cymbals 3 weeks ago
I bought a couple of the 14" and 16" Lemon cymbals from AliExpress. In my opinion if they are designed to work with the Roland-style rotation stopper, they should come with that part. I am buying these because I don't want to spend top $ for Roland...so I don't already have the cymbal mounts on hand. I had to buy them separately for CAD$25 each!! Other than that, they work great so far.
My 12” ‘hihat’ lemon pad actually came with a copy of the rotation stopper. They should supply them with all cymbals
Have you ever done a video on lemon drums?
I really like my Lemon cymbals... I have an 11" that I use as a splash.... and I got their 15" China... they trigger perfectly, and yeah... it would be nicer to have that thinner, denser rubber... but I would definitely buy a Lemon cymbal again over pretty much any other brand because of the cost and performance.... unless it's a digital cymbal then I won't go cheap there.... but for just adding more cymbals "Lemon" is an amazing option.... I hope they up their game with their tom pads soon... I just ordered a couple of the 12 " ones to use as floor toms on my td 27kv2 .... with drum tec real feel mesh heads....
A sliight correction, the current EFNote ride is 18", they are still working on the 20" one
I played the prototype 20" at the 2020 NAMM convention.
@@65Drums Yeahyeah, I know but just wanted to clarify so no one thinks theyre getting a 20" ride with the EFNote 5 or something cause theyre not selling that one yet
that my third i got 2x15inch and 1x18inch those product can put pressure on the big brand easy...they are realy good and cheap they can be beat a lot and still trigger as new ...just love it ...i aim a hihat soon ...my alesis pro x begin to be old
I got the lemon version love the 18 inch size had to switch the cable in side for the alesis strike buy it works well order 3 more 15 inch one's to replace all the strike one's there 5 years old now and alesis ride just craped out
I have two Lemon versions through Alibaba. I destroyed the cover on one taking it off, So, be careful taking the rubber cover off. I used the parts to convert a Sabian cymbal into an electronic. Grinding the edge down under the cymbol to the hight of the rubber helped. So did taking off the glue so the bell could flex more to hit the switch easier. Putting more glue or filler is bad, less is better.
I just ordered the 18" lemon ride from Ali Baba for $69 + &48 for shipping. Comes out to $117. Seemingly a great buy since I've been seeing Yamaha PCY155 /150S from eBay for $150 used (not including shipping). Not sure if I'll have to rewire it for use on Yamaha consoles. If anyone out there are savy to the the combination, please let me know. CHEERS and GOOD DRUMMING TO ALL!
Maybe for the German Followers here:
drum-tec offers this Cymbals under the name "Zeitgeist" now!
You beat me to it !
Thank you so much. I have been following your channel for a while and have been searching for this exact product for a while now. Thanks for the review.
Thanks for watching Brian!
Their 35_" dual zone choke able crash is 34$. I'D BUY one. Problem is in shipping its very expensive especially now don't know why
Got a lemon. It is OK, I wouldn't go as far as great but for the price it is decent. The bell trigger has to small a sweet spot.
I just looked it up T950 is their big ser. Could find the sizes but looks like a 20 inch bass drum
That 9 piece kit is 786$ mesh heads even on inexpensive kit only 250$
I prefer larger crashes. Can someone who owns the 18 discuss how well it does swells and chokes?
Hello Justin, I would like to ask you a question but it is not related to this video in particular but it is that it has been completely impossible for me to find among so much video of yours the one that you talked about the compatibility between modules and pads and cymbals, you will see I have the kit Alesis DM10X with the DM10 module and I am terribly unhappy with this module and browsing through forums there are people who say that these pads and cymbals are fully compatible with Roland modules and instead there are other people who say that they are not completely compatible and specifically I would like to buy the Roland TD27. Would this module be compatible with my pads and cymbals? Thanks for your help and congratulations for all the content you show us on your channel.
I think jobecky make a 20 inch ride cymbal if im not mistaken
One input for 3 zones like Kat?
I have one for my old pearl red box. Works really well.
Hey can I please ask a strange one, any tips on removing small blood stains on TD-17KVX mesh pads at all? what is the fabric?
How would you compare the bell sensitivity to the 16" Lemon? On my Lemon it's pretty bad, especially on the sides. Overall I still prefer playing on my Roland CY13r even though it's much smaller, it just has a more reliable bell trigger.
I didn't have any issues with my lemon cymbal. The bell sensitivity on this larger one is more sensitive than my cy15R. I can trigger the bell by tapping it firmly with my finger. I'm not here to say these cymbals are the greatesting thing since sliced bread. But they aren't bad, at least in my experience.
Do you think you could review some ride cymbals with single cable inputs?
I should have my 18" Lemon Ride in a couple of weeks !! Been using my 14" as a ride 😞 so I'm a tad bit excited about the size upgrade 😁✌️
Well I can be mistaken but I guess Drum-tec is also selling them... which is great since I live in Europe !
I wonder if this works with a Roland TD1 module.
Got one for starting with drumming at low volume and I consider to replace the small one Roland shipped with my kit with this one, using the smaller one as a second crash.
GREAT INFO. THINK I MITE GET ONE.🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙
Hay justin,love your videos mate,I have the roland vad306 ,I have seen some videos with drummers playing mesh pads without the rubber rim,any reason for this and would it still work as normal besides damaging your sticks? Reason im asking is maybe it would give me an even more realistic drumming experience,please reply thanks in advance 🙏🏻
Could you do a video on this 3 zone cymbal and the Roland TD17 module? Best settings etc..
Just use the CY15r or CY16rt setting. After that, only minor adjustments to sensitivity should be needed
@@65Drums Thanks for the fast reply. Your channel is great. Been a fan for a long time Justin.
I love your double pedals dude!
Can you like do a gear video?
Where can I find one?
Hi Justin
Love your videos I'm in the process of updating my A2E conversion I'm going for the edrum in module would you like me to have it shipped to you so you can do a review on it. As I'm still waiting for parts for my kit
StaySafe
Brian
What module / midi controller using in this video?
I use a Yamaha DTX700 module. If I plugged the one available 1/4” ride input into this cymbal, would 0, 1, or 2 zones work? If 1 or 2, which?
Does the Manufacturer make anything else (snares, kicks, etc)? I need a kit and if quality is being released at great prices, then that's the direction which I want to go in.
Digital high hat, just like Roland's new one...but for $199.
LOL
Lemon makes a whole kit. Never heard it. I have a lot of toontrack software I wonder if it work with that?
is it works with yamaha dtx pro module?
Thanks , Great video 👍👍👍
if your module only has one ride input can you use splitter cables to get all 3 zones to work?
Justin sup question is there a way to use Roland 18 digital ride (which on the way to me) or convert to 1/8 plug. I bought it and didnt realize i dont have usb on Strike module. Thanks
What do you have to do to get the choke feature to work for different brand of modules?
Quick question. Do you know what electronic drum kit has a hi hat and a stand for cheap?
Millennium
@@tea2920 no content only 6 subs
Just the name smacks of quality....
I'll bite... why?
@@hoipimniet just sounds like some cheap thing you'd buy off Ali Baba. Almost as bad a name as Lemon cymbals which are the exact same cymbals.
The Chinese do a lot of that not realizing the impression. They say this is very CHEAP, when they should use inexpensive. They use that all the time. I have an account. I've seen the lemon set. I've never heard it but I think the whole set is about 500!
@@EricFDrums I bought five 16" cymbals and two 14" Lemon cymbals off Alibaba for under $500 including shipping. Work just fine on my Alesis Dm10x and I play pretty hard.
I'm nearly sold. Can you choke it?
I'm needing to update all my cymbals to choke and I don't wanna sacrifice programming one of the zones as a choke sample.
Yes you can! The cymbal is choke-able. You can email us at info@orientalgears.com
Is it worth buying alesis dm6 in 2021 please tell
Is addictive drums 2 better than Steven Slate Drums 5.5?
Hi Can I use this cymbal with Millenium MPS-850?
To bad I didn't got an answer!
i guess as a crash you might be able. but i don't know if thomann's house brand kits a have 3-zone ride option.
Question not pertaining to this. What tom holders will fit alesis strike pro se thx
Do you have any reviews for their OG toms?
not yet sorry
Well just how affordable is it ?
Google!
Indeed. He kept talking about how inexpensive it is but never named a price. Maybe he was just quoting the marketing literature since they sent it to him for free.
Hey I have an old Roland upgraded TD 10 and looking to upgrade. Is there a drum module that would work with the older drums or would it be better to just get a new kit. I see a lot of the newer modules don’t have all the 1/4 inch jacks that the TD 10 has. So do I just upgrade whole kit or is there a way to keep the older drums and just upgrade my module?
You could get a td27 or td50 upgrade package with the digital ride and snare. All your td10 pads will work. My brother just got the td50x upgrade. Its nice but Im surprised how good my td10 exp still sounds in comparison.
does anyone work on the td11 module ? I couldn't get the bell zone to sound
👍🙂 Nice!
hey justin.. nice video as always... do you have own superior drummer 3 presets of drums? if yes.. i would pay for it.. is it possible to get some good presets of you if you have?
Hey Claudio, I don't sell SD3 presets at the moment. I just have one that I keep changing and messing around with for my personal kit. But if I get around to making "official" presets I'll be sure to mention it.
Hmmm, well since I no longer have a Facebook I guess it's either make another account or I'm out of luck on these cymbals. Hate when companies do that crap. Makes me kind of question the legitimacy of the product.
you can email us at info@orientalgears.com, sir!
Order the Lemon version from Alibaba.
Same!!! It’s so easy to make a website now a days.
@@orientalgears9971 thank you
How do multi zoned pads work on cheaper modules? Just curious because I just have a cheap alesis nitro brain but I’m just curious if it just has three different mappings or what
triple zone ride wouldnt work on nitro module, i think a 1-2 zone ride is only compatible
i was planning on getting the nitro and adding a 3 zone ride :(
Hey Justin, would these work with my Roland TD 11 drum module, as a hi hat cymbal?
I couldn't get the bell zone to work on td11
@@KORSO_TANDEM that's cool, I'm thinking of using it as either a second crash or a hi hat
Bell sensitivity looks a lot better than CY13R.
The bell zone on the TD11 module DOES NOT WORK
Cannot find a way to purchase this 18" ride... does anyone have a link? Thanks.
I left the email address of the company in the description. They don't have a website yet
How long does Ali baba take to ship to the us?
It seems to depend on the order, and where you live. I think it's about 1-3 weeks on average.
this one looks a lot better than lemon one not gonna lie.
Well the name Lemon isn't great, so that logo being gone helps lol
@@65Drums this one would blend in really well with regular roland cymbals with a bit of difference what i can apreciate. I understand ATV going for its own look and thats fine i have the ultra high end nano-quantum particle physics ride from them and it doesnt stand out from rest of the cymbals but man, that EF note, i cant see myself bying it ever just because of the colour. It could blend nicely with a chrome rack i supose. while rambling it came to my mind i miss the white undersite of roland cymbals tho, that was nice.
Seems like a great option, but why it's so flat?
That's true, the bell is not very tall
Goes with alesis strike?
yep!
Why don't manufacturers make the bell bigger? Cost?
Note sure, i wish it stood taller, and was a tad larger. But it's not a big deal when you play it.
I ordered the Lemon one from Alibaba but actually received an unbranded version like the one in this video. I'm having trouble with Bell triggering. I'm getting the bell sound on the bow with only a fairly light hit. I've tried adjusting the threshold and sensitivity on my TD12 but can't seem to fix it. Any ideas? Thanks.
He covers this at 3:35 in his video
@@markashby6402 I'm not getting the bell sound on the edge. I'm getting it on the bow. The zones are correctly wired, I'm just getting constant bell sounds on the bow.
@@dirkforsdyke6214 Ah, my apologies. I misread your question.
My Roland CY13R on my TD17 kit has a tiny spot for a bell. Got frustrated and got a BT1 pad for my bell. Expensive solution to an overpriced Roland kit.
This cymbal is like an emergency usage vaccine. Seems good at first but can't really tell what will happen to it in a year, 2, or 3
I approve this message. I don't really trust off-brand stuff. There's a reason it's cheap.
Any MILLENIUM users out there, any idea if it is compatible with Millennium modules?
First LOL.😀
Mine arrived today. I'll be putting them on my kit tonight.
Second
Don't waste your money on any Jobkey cymbal.
Why
Thanks for this video, Justin!
You can reach us through email at info@orientalgears.com!