Fastest Supercars (GP1) - GTA 5 Best Fully Upgraded Cars Lap Time Countdown

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  • Опубликовано: 28 дек 2024

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  • @broughy1322
    @broughy1322  7 лет назад +133

    Thank you all so much for the support I really do appreciate it!

    • @yuggle1983
      @yuggle1983 7 лет назад +2

      Broughy1322 Im fine with just having them as they are released.
      As it would probably help you too since you will get 3 "Hype Fueled" Testing videos, 1 each week.
      Instead of just 1 with them all in when the initial hype might not be there.
      So at least 3x views. Which we know isnt the reason you do this, which is why i wouldnt care if you just did 1 each week.

    • @FlintlockYT
      @FlintlockYT 7 лет назад

      Yet another sports car, oh boy...

    • @SuhailKhan-km5cn
      @SuhailKhan-km5cn 7 лет назад

      Broughy1322 Where do you think it would be if it had spoiler benefits instead

    • @nocturnechanson
      @nocturnechanson 7 лет назад

      Broughy1322 an ugly car that performs will sell. So will a bad car that looks really good. This thing performs poorly and has a face only a mother could love. Probably will be another of the cars that get forgotten.

    • @Aristocrafied
      @Aristocrafied 7 лет назад +4

      nocturnechanson this game is being forgotten by me, no gun balance, bad car balance. poor performance on ps4 with low frames and terrible input lag. At times inexplicable bumps in loading times. The only way this is fun is when you're with some friends but mine are like minded in desiring something better

  • @robertoriv5574
    @robertoriv5574 7 лет назад +36

    I'm still buying it though lol.. IT'S AN F1!!!

  • @cappew22
    @cappew22 7 лет назад +10

    Who cares about who's fastest when you're driving an F1! Very cool that it got brought into GTA!

    • @Mr.timecapsules
      @Mr.timecapsules 6 лет назад

      cappew22 I had one, but I had to sell it in order to buy an R32

  • @Atom.Storm.
    @Atom.Storm. 7 лет назад +36

    People might see this as a let down but I am glad for it. Not every update should give us a new fastest supercar.

    • @Johnny362000
      @Johnny362000 7 лет назад +6

      It's a good thing then that there hasn't been an update since Cunning Stunts that added a new fastest supercar
      The thing is, we're not asking for a new fastest supercar, all we ask is that it's competitive with the existing supers to add more variety to races

    • @Outland9000
      @Outland9000 7 лет назад

      Amen brother!

    • @Johnny362000
      @Johnny362000 7 лет назад +5

      They're not going to stop adding supercars, it's what makes them money. It'd just be nice if those new supers they added were competitive. It doesn't hurt anybody to make the new supers competitive

    • @allabouthewaves4354
      @allabouthewaves4354 7 лет назад +2

      They should've been making Racecar classes for Super and Sports.

    • @Atom.Storm.
      @Atom.Storm. 7 лет назад

      The supers have plenty of variety within the challenge. We need cars in otehr classes, or even better, a complete class reshuffle.

  • @evoldave2772
    @evoldave2772 7 лет назад +6

    Thank you for doing these videos. You are doing a very good thing for the community. Some of us really do appreciate all the wok you put into this. Your info has saved me so much in game money. Thanks again, and keep up the great work.

    • @broughy1322
      @broughy1322  7 лет назад +4

      Thanks for the kind words :) Happy to help!

  • @ColePlayz_
    @ColePlayz_ 7 лет назад +13

    Broughy should really have 1 million subs! He's just an amazing content creator tbh.

    • @broughy1322
      @broughy1322  7 лет назад +3

      Well thanks I appreciate that :)

  • @whispwindswept
    @whispwindswept 7 лет назад +1

    I LOVE the format where you put it in the vehicles immediately slower and faster than the new car. for a long time it was hard to factor in new cars into the ranking. now the whole game is complete

  • @RealStreetPA
    @RealStreetPA 7 лет назад +6

    Oh a new car released. Time to retest all the vehicles :P. Keep up the good work Broughy we all know which gta youtuber puts in work these days.

  • @zepholiar
    @zepholiar 7 лет назад +5

    Nice video. Every time a car is released, I immediately go here. Thanks for the testing!

  • @l_quinn_l
    @l_quinn_l 7 лет назад +1

    I like the addition of quickly showing what cars it's sandwiched between and showing it side by side with the number 1 vehicle

  • @Aviin1
    @Aviin1 7 лет назад +1

    I've honestly been waiting for this video all morning. Thank you for covering it so quickly! The stats look incredible when you get the car so I expected it to be a little better. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a patch soon though. Hopefully the top speed is good!

  • @vivalabam7371
    @vivalabam7371 7 лет назад +3

    fucking impossible to find someone playing this game without 10:02 minute video, 19 giveaways and talking about absolutely nothing for the whole video, this was refreshing

  • @RisikoAO
    @RisikoAO 7 лет назад +2

    Wow, that was a quick video upload! Thank you Broughy

  • @DiscoStriker
    @DiscoStriker 7 лет назад +1

    Wow, I like this new analysis format! Showing the comparison is really, really nice!

  • @Yesidoplaytheguitar
    @Yesidoplaytheguitar 7 лет назад +1

    You work ridiculously fast Brough massive kudos! Another car i don't need to buy, thanks for the info mate!

  • @grimmar80
    @grimmar80 7 лет назад +3

    "and from what I have tested, it isn't that great if I do say so myself" yours truly MrBossWTF ;-) Thanks Boroughy, great as usual!

  • @fier0782
    @fier0782 7 лет назад +2

    Once again, thanks for the accurate and helpful testing Broughy! I for one will save my money for the other cars in this DLC 👍

  • @yuggle1983
    @yuggle1983 7 лет назад +108

    They shouldve called it the Tyrus SWB.
    Thanks for the effort as always broughy.
    Shame it has to be off the pace. Its a mclaren F1 obviously so im still gonna drive it all the time. Always loved that car. Woulda liked a little more out of it though to be honest.

    • @South4153
      @South4153 7 лет назад +1

      Yuggle well at least it looks good(:

    • @Obi-WanKannabis
      @Obi-WanKannabis 7 лет назад +1

      the wheel base is the same though. The tail is longer on the Tyrus, but the space between the wheels is exactly the same.

    • @yuggle1983
      @yuggle1983 7 лет назад

      Obi-Wan Kannabis
      Well the tyrus LM, or tyrus longtail or something lol.
      All i mean is in real life there are multiple versions of the F1, such as the regular one and then the longer one also. But they are still a variant of the F1.
      Woulda been cool if they incorperated that into the name.

    • @fulcrum2168
      @fulcrum2168 7 лет назад +5

      Yuggle GP1 should be called the T10, Tryus should be called the T10 GT

    • @yuggle1983
      @yuggle1983 7 лет назад

      White Hat
      Yeah just something to relate them. :) And yes the GP1 should have the regular name and then the tyrus have something "after it" such as "T10" or "LM" ect.
      Obviously we got this 2nd though so that wouldntve happened.

  • @bennettpines
    @bennettpines 7 лет назад +1

    just when i thought i'd have to wait all day for your vid on it and it's already here! much love man!

  • @JohnBillings83
    @JohnBillings83 7 лет назад +2

    That was quick. Much appreciated!

  • @Alzzer95
    @Alzzer95 7 лет назад +1

    Thanks for the speedy upload Broughy!

  • @13nohead
    @13nohead 7 лет назад +2

    Thanks for saving me some $ this morning Broughy! i love your channel. keep up the good work!

  • @jackthehat_
    @jackthehat_ 7 лет назад +3

    Cheers for your hard work brough

  • @Leychen
    @Leychen 7 лет назад +1

    good job broughy, thank you so much for doing that work!

  • @scotlandboy3107
    @scotlandboy3107 7 лет назад +1

    Excellent work broughy, thanks for saving me money 👍

  • @Bryan-kv7ob
    @Bryan-kv7ob 7 лет назад +1

    what a bummer Great vid man.

  • @TurboLag23
    @TurboLag23 7 лет назад +1

    Good to know; thanks for the quick upload!
    Waiting on the Turismo Classic; I REALLY hope it's a Ferrari F40!

  • @typhoonic
    @typhoonic 7 лет назад +1

    Thanks for the quick update.

  • @LloydLastNameHere
    @LloydLastNameHere 7 лет назад +1

    the car may not be that fast, but you certainly are. respect

  • @skefil6525
    @skefil6525 7 лет назад +38

    You just saved me $20. Thank you. (This is a joke because I had no plans to buy a shark card in the first place.)

    • @broughy1322
      @broughy1322  7 лет назад +26

      Comments like this make this all worthwhile :)

    • @Outland9000
      @Outland9000 7 лет назад

      $20.... For what? A shark card maybe?

    • @dantexonline4666
      @dantexonline4666 7 лет назад

      Skefil really bro
      ...you could have just used that money on another actually game than waste it on a shitty shark card for some cars! why do people waste good money on this game for some millions rather than be smart and buy an entirely new game with that money! and if your excuse "it's my money and I can do what I want with it" well then go ahead no one stopping you from wasting your money.

    • @skefil6525
      @skefil6525 7 лет назад +1

      The only problem with this new game situation is there aren't any games out that interest me. Also I typed the comment as a joke! I had no plans to buy a shark card anyway.

    • @chicoandthem4n
      @chicoandthem4n 7 лет назад

      Parkeriko D waist*

  • @danwatson1974
    @danwatson1974 7 лет назад +5

    Thanks m8 saved me a couple of million there!!

  • @GuilleViper
    @GuilleViper 7 лет назад +67

    Pretty slow, the Guinea Pig 1, at least it looks good and the customization is great

    • @broughy1322
      @broughy1322  7 лет назад +13

      XD

    • @MegaCazzam
      @MegaCazzam 7 лет назад +3

      amaher547 *triggered*

    • @FalbereChan
      @FalbereChan 7 лет назад

      yeah 3 duplicates of the same option in carbon and not in carbon fiber great customization, "XD" must've been unironic

  • @MIKEZILLA453
    @MIKEZILLA453 7 лет назад +1

    Thank you Broughy for this vid.

  • @bleeps6691
    @bleeps6691 7 лет назад +1

    Thanks for the quick testing! A bit underwhelming, especially since the Penetrator, another old supercar, wasn't too bad of a performer. This being said, it's a friggin McLaren F1, a lot of people will probably be stoked just to use it in freeroam regardless of how it performs on the track. Same for the upcoming cars.

  • @A2DaJGaming
    @A2DaJGaming 7 лет назад +1

    Sweet another gr8 video B . .I don't even have anything snarky to say

  • @JoJoSandman
    @JoJoSandman 7 лет назад +1

    Thank you for doing this right away.

  • @ActualPanda
    @ActualPanda 7 лет назад +1

    i like this new way of doing these videos

  • @xracer5995
    @xracer5995 7 лет назад +1

    Love your channel mate ❤❤❤

  • @nucleardrifting3864
    @nucleardrifting3864 7 лет назад +3

    For the price, looks, and customizability it has its pretty good, not to mention the sound. If your a good racer you can beat your average Joe who has a RE-7B in a race with this car 3 seconds is what happens when you don't take corners correctly or just don't know how to drive properly.

  • @AydenTheKilla
    @AydenTheKilla 7 лет назад

    Thanks for the work Broughy!
    but yeah i do think this "dlc" and the next few classic super cars will just be a placeholder for the next upcoming dlc. i hope its sweet!

  • @DJMavis
    @DJMavis 7 лет назад +1

    thanks again for saving me money. Almost forgiven you for the ETR-1!

  • @UberDragon
    @UberDragon 7 лет назад +2

    That's sort of disappointing, but I suppose only makes sense price wise. Then again we have the Zentorno in a top spot at least for the race track testing for just ~700K so maybe we could have hoped for the GP1 to be slightly more competitively viable. Thanks for posting these videos so quickly!

  • @arphos8328
    @arphos8328 7 лет назад +22

    Not all that shocking really. It's based off an older supercar. Granted, a very nice supercar, but an older one all the same. Still looks gorgeous though.

    • @Outland9000
      @Outland9000 7 лет назад +1

      Ah ha! Someone that gets it!

    • @Johnny362000
      @Johnny362000 7 лет назад +7

      The Penetrator is based off an older supercar and it's competitive in the class

    • @Gaming_Sparky58
      @Gaming_Sparky58 7 лет назад

      I'm not buying this for races but to add a cool classic car to my collection, and once we get the Infernus and Turismo I'll put them all beside each other and I'll get my small super classic collection as I'm sure they will perform the same as this maybe worse as their price in the codes are like dirt cheap, less than half the GP1

  • @bisquitcrazy7310
    @bisquitcrazy7310 7 лет назад +1

    Your awesome Broughy!!

  • @niewszystkojasne
    @niewszystkojasne 7 лет назад +1

    You're the best. Thank you.

  • @Dayswithryan
    @Dayswithryan 7 лет назад +1

    Damn your quick on that track!

  • @iAmBrah
    @iAmBrah 7 лет назад +3

    Patiently waiting for the infernus/turismo lap times via PC magic :)

  • @imheem158
    @imheem158 7 лет назад +1

    ❤️ your vids fav youtuber

  • @gaupau
    @gaupau 7 лет назад +3

    whew i was thinking of buying this but now im not lol thx bruffy

  • @TheJawmuscle
    @TheJawmuscle 7 лет назад +1

    Thanks Broughy!

  • @XpXpert
    @XpXpert 7 лет назад +3

    Was gonna buy it.....but broughy uploaded

  • @JeffVlimant
    @JeffVlimant 7 лет назад +2

    despite the fact this car is slow, they gave it a lot of personnalisation option, wich is nice...
    But what bothers me is the fact it doesn't really has the benefit from its IRL counterpart

  • @sklenotic
    @sklenotic 7 лет назад

    OOOO look a new car released by rock*....+waits until broughy's vid comes out on its performance+ Thank yu sir! Wish i could send something your way in appreciation

  • @BigMobe
    @BigMobe 7 лет назад +1

    So sad, the McLaren F1 was my go to car in Need 4 Speed back in the 90's. Top speed was in excess of 230MPH and it handled like dream. It was quick to respond without over correcting.

  • @LSCrazyCabCo
    @LSCrazyCabCo 7 лет назад +1

    day one you are a life saver

  • @IAmPatat
    @IAmPatat 7 лет назад +1

    Broughy uploaded this faster than the car itself

  • @shoery69
    @shoery69 7 лет назад +2

    thanks for the update, don't think it's worth getting for that price.

  • @Un4ble
    @Un4ble 7 лет назад +1

    Thanks for the video! Now I don't need to start GTA and buy it.

  • @auz8d9wij2ks9d
    @auz8d9wij2ks9d 7 лет назад +2

    There is only 1 thing I want from this DLC.
    Make the Sports Classics fair again!!

  • @ThunderTHR
    @ThunderTHR 7 лет назад +2

    Could care less that its near 3 seconds off the pace, still going to buy one because of what its based off of. I can't help but love me the idea of having an F1 in my garage.

  • @lukaslrg216
    @lukaslrg216 7 лет назад

    Thanks broughy. Also I was thinking it would be really useful to show every car that has tires can clip. (Every car that is smoother over bumps with a tire that has a bigger sidewall) I know you showed most of the in an older video but there are the new cars now so if you can make a complete list or a video myself and I'm sure a lot of other people would really appreciate it. Thanks

    • @broughy1322
      @broughy1322  7 лет назад

      Look at the description here for a relevant link: ruclips.net/video/OBpGkY7jyL8/видео.html

  • @rihardmeremaa9897
    @rihardmeremaa9897 7 лет назад +2

    What would've been ironic is if the GP1 was faster than the Tyrus. Hope you get the point;)

  • @lucassmits6929
    @lucassmits6929 7 лет назад +2

    GP2 engine! GP2 engine! As a well known spaniard would say

  • @moizzkhan8546
    @moizzkhan8546 7 лет назад +1

    Thank you. 😊

  • @HerpilOG
    @HerpilOG 7 лет назад +8

    IVE ALWAYS WANTED AN F1 IN THIS GAME!!!

    • @greaser3069
      @greaser3069 7 лет назад +23

      Yeah and they fucking ruined it

    • @Outland9000
      @Outland9000 7 лет назад +1

      How? I think its spot on!

    • @stefe2035
      @stefe2035 7 лет назад +1

      They didn't ruin it. You can make a clean F1 (used the colour from Mr. Bean's) or even a F1 LM with it. Performancewise it's where it belongs - a little higher top speed would've been cool. A F1 wouldn't stand a chance around a track vs an Huayra, P1, Sesto Elemento, Huracan, Koenigsegg, Mazda 787B, etc.

    • @AwoL5503
      @AwoL5503 7 лет назад

      But you already had an f1. Its called the tyrus

    • @HerpilOG
      @HerpilOG 7 лет назад

      KingARJ Yeah, a shit version. This one is way more accurate.

  • @geauxburns
    @geauxburns 7 лет назад

    Do you think R* should have made the GP1 a Sports Classic instead of a Super?

  • @DownloadedPixelz
    @DownloadedPixelz 7 лет назад +2

    I bet you chose that color because of the McLaren F1... I'm on to you Broughy haha

  • @_Zekken
    @_Zekken 7 лет назад +1

    i bought it because it was a Mclaren F1.
    it looks absolutely epic

  • @SilverRonald
    @SilverRonald 7 лет назад +2

    Thanks for saving me money Broughy

  • @sebastianochs7603
    @sebastianochs7603 7 лет назад +1

    I would have only bought it if it was at least in the top 10 if the supercars, so thank you for clarifying.
    However the Infernus Classic and the Turismo Classic could be real contenders for the Stirling GT if they are in the Sports Classics Class.

  • @Caden0601
    @Caden0601 7 лет назад

    why do you use offroad tires when testing on an asphalt circuit?

  • @whitedragon312
    @whitedragon312 7 лет назад

    what paint job is that on the Re 7b? looks cool

  • @joel4wd
    @joel4wd 7 лет назад

    Is the re-7b still the same or is it slower now ?

  • @K1NG_of_ReVeNGe1
    @K1NG_of_ReVeNGe1 7 лет назад +4

    Bought it for the looks.
    Will keep it for the looks.
    Too bad it's so crappy...

  • @thisispartaa
    @thisispartaa 7 лет назад +4

    Broughy correct me if I'm wrong. But if you're doing just 1 car showcase, why not put the lap time and top speed testing in the same video? :3

    • @broughy1322
      @broughy1322  7 лет назад +12

      Because then those watching the other series wouldn't know where to go to see the updated top speeds.

    • @thisispartaa
      @thisispartaa 7 лет назад

      alrighty. thanks for the reply! :)

    • @ThunderBullet13
      @ThunderBullet13 7 лет назад +2

      and more videos with more viewers :P

  • @shortcat
    @shortcat 7 лет назад

    Can you test Rocket Voltic with fast Special Vehicle Race recharge rate? Can this rate be available in any other races btw?

  • @mecca6801
    @mecca6801 7 лет назад +1

    Wow! Shock and awe!

  • @jasontrotta6630
    @jasontrotta6630 7 лет назад +2

    You da best.

  • @RandomDude655
    @RandomDude655 7 лет назад

    I still very much love the Progen GP1, in my opinion it's one of the best looking super cars since the Zentorno. It's perfect in my perspective but maybe that's because I don't do lots of racing but I still like these videos just to get an idea of what the new cars are like.

  • @JnohD
    @JnohD 7 лет назад +2

    Hurts my brain to see all the new downforce reliant cars a) have no purpose for spoilers and b) have no where near enough traction...
    I have to wonder if spoilers and downforce are going to be reworked over all cars...

  • @seanhickling7340
    @seanhickling7340 7 лет назад

    Hello, Broughy. I know it shows no difference but after a lot of testing today. Try putting one of the spoilers that has the 30°. We found it made quite a significant difference. Although not completely transforming performance. Cheers.

  • @facetydread5976
    @facetydread5976 7 лет назад +1

    Thank you Broughly1322 for the quick update on the new car!!

  • @TheRcanela1
    @TheRcanela1 7 лет назад +1

    Thanks!!!!

  • @JP_A3
    @JP_A3 7 лет назад +6

    To be honest, there is more than enough supercars at this stage. I'd like to see more tuners, an off-roading dlc and maybe some more sports classics. But I doubt they'll make those since they are doing less dlcs now.

    • @Johnny362000
      @Johnny362000 7 лет назад +5

      Supers sell, the grand majority of this game's playerbase don't appreciate anything other than super and sports cars

  • @SDRoku
    @SDRoku 7 лет назад

    Yep. I'll have a challenge for you. If i get the gp1 perform in under a minute in this race i get a shark card

  • @TJ_CrXss
    @TJ_CrXss 7 лет назад +1

    Progen Super car showdown
    GT 1: T20
    GT 2: Itali GTB Custom
    GT 3: GP1

  • @bronney
    @bronney 7 лет назад +1

    I bought one and upgraded max anyway because who cares. The understeer is real. But I also found this car brings back the speed glitch re7b feel whilst driving on pacific bluffs, very satisfying. The post-patch re7b doesn't give me that "I am gonna crash" feeling anymore. But yes I can see how it will have slower lap times because you gotto brake steer more.

  • @7gmeister
    @7gmeister 7 лет назад

    Hey Broughy,
    I've noticed that there seems to be a distinction made since cunning stunts between road cars and race cars and races on the road and stunt tracks..
    Seems that some cars are really good on stunt tracks but aren't very good Street racers but road cars seem to lose an advantage on tracks..
    Great example is the Tyrus because it is super grippy on stunt tracks but as a road car it just really is slow and the super stiff suspension is detrimental when driving it on the road whereas the T20 with its super powerful awd and great brakes make it the best overall super car in my mind..
    Do you consider these things and how do you tend to reconcile them?

    • @7gmeister
      @7gmeister 7 лет назад

      I appreciate your videos btw

  • @KnodsilMemeMaker
    @KnodsilMemeMaker 7 лет назад +1

    mmm, It may not be fast around the circuit, but I am curious to see what the GP1 is going to bring in terms of top speed. Cause its based on the McLaren F1 you would expect it to have a very high top speed. I dunno, ones we get the top speed test we will know for sure :)

  • @dchousoseiso
    @dchousoseiso 7 лет назад +6

    I still F1 LM'd it balls to the walls for looks though.

    • @dchousoseiso
      @dchousoseiso 7 лет назад

      When I saw that the spoiler didn't affect traction, I knew this car wouldn't be good, though.

    • @antilagboostaddiction8322
      @antilagboostaddiction8322 7 лет назад

      Matthew Wang When I heard 1.2 mill I don't know how anyone thought it would be good lmao.

  • @auz8d9wij2ks9d
    @auz8d9wij2ks9d 7 лет назад +3

    A 1:03 for a guinea-pig..??!?!
    Haven't seen a quick one like that in years..

  • @Shrimpkebab420
    @Shrimpkebab420 7 лет назад +1

    Now mrbitchftw is going to race the car for 2 laps and somehow get the same lap time as you in a straight line that you got in a circuit.

  • @sonicx9864
    @sonicx9864 7 лет назад

    Hey broughy, I have a question. I recently just bought the RE-7B because it was on sale and I wanted to hear from you which would be better in terms of performance: The RE-7B with the stock spoiler or with a custom spoiler. If you could take the time out of your day to answer my question I would really appreciate it. Thank You and keep up the good work. You're channel helps me decide which car is worth buying or not :)

    • @Johnny362000
      @Johnny362000 7 лет назад +1

      the spoiler makes no difference on the RE7B

    • @sonicx9864
      @sonicx9864 7 лет назад

      Johnny362000 Thank You !

  • @renegaderaida526
    @renegaderaida526 6 лет назад +1

    This should be in sports classics.

  • @spartanghost9865
    @spartanghost9865 7 лет назад +1

    It's a classic though so it deserves to be purchased☺

  • @kendaldk5634
    @kendaldk5634 7 лет назад

    Still gonna be rocking that Nero custom.

  • @manusk40
    @manusk40 7 лет назад

    Dear Broughy, have you ever played GTA with a wheel ?
    And would you recommend it ?

    • @broughy1322
      @broughy1322  7 лет назад +5

      GTA doesn't work with a wheel (without mods anyway) so no I wouldn't recommend it.

    • @manusk40
      @manusk40 7 лет назад

      ok thanks

  • @CMC004
    @CMC004 6 лет назад

    I sold my Vagner for the GP1. Do you think it was a good choice?

  • @justgamingin2023
    @justgamingin2023 7 лет назад

    i have etri1 and a have another question do you think is Worth to Race with it these Days?i question because in a Race there many factors( drivers skills ,corners ,get hit by another car) só o Will continue with etri1 or i must change.note: i love etri1 because he have awesome design like Lexus real life

    • @broughy1322
      @broughy1322  7 лет назад

      Sure ETR1 is fine for random races

  • @AndreasNV
    @AndreasNV 7 лет назад +2

    Would at this point be perfect for the Classics class ...