Street Photography Lessons from Fred Herzog
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Video Breakdown
00:00 Intro
01:31 Brief Biographical Note
02:51 Defining Street Photography
04:59 Photography as an organised chaos
06:58 Commit to your photography
10:27 MPB & Outro
* video notes: at around minute 6:30min, I mistakenly say the word “negative” referring to the Kodachrome film, however this is a mistake as this is a slide film, slip of the tongue so my apologies if I created any confusion.
Timeless Photography Lessons from Fred Herzog
By Tatiana Hopper
June 2023
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📍 What other colour street photography pioneers do you know about?
Hmm the classics I would say Eggleston, Haas, Christenberry, Levitt, Meyerowitz! All fabulous!
@@mid90s75 All great photographs, I'll add to this list Alex Webb and Luigi Ghiri...Rosaria
@@mid90s75 great list I just realised I haven’t touched Helen Levitt!
@@outwithsara70 agreed! Great names and thank you Rosaria 🙏🏻
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Picture taking is like a companion. Always with me. Keeps me company, engages me, challenges me. Much thanks for your thoughts on Herzog.
Similar process here, thank you for watching!
aaah the memories my Dad was a BIG time kodachrome shooter and my job was to set up the screen for the slide shows
Amazing job if you ask me! :)
absolutely wonderful, thank you for another insight on some of the greats!
Thank you so much Jasen! 🙏🏻
Fred Herzog was a true 'Street Photography Pioneer' in every regard. He has provided a photographic record of the growth of Vancouver as it took its place amongst the great North American cities. Herzog often shot ASA (think ISO) 10 film! That's extremely fine grain film that hasn't been available for a very long time now. I bumped into him twice but other than looking/nodding at him I didn't want to bother him as he was busy taking photos. He had a major gallery show going back around 10-12 years ago that was spectacular. It featured very large prints of his works that were selling on average for around $4000 CAD. I went back to view it a number of times. He embodied a grace and quiet dignity despite the fact that on particular subjects he had very concrete opinions. After living in Vancouver for 33 years I haven't heard of a 'bad Herzog encounter' to date.
Fifteen years ago when I was doing street photography in downtown Vancouver it was rare to bump into other street photographers. Now I see them every single time I go shooting! That's great because it means that many creatives are walking/looking/listening/shooting the myriad streets scenes that Vancouver embodies as a city.
**On a personal note: I attempted to coordinate a video interview with Herzog over eighteen months but his failing health just didn't facilitate this actually happening. **
Love this! Specially the commitment to your craft, appreciate that take, thanks for the food for thought!
Thank you so much! Really appreciate that 🙏🏻
Thank you for this episode! Fred Herzog's photography is truly remarkable. The way he masterfully uses color and composition in his street photography is simply breathtaking.
Agreed! Thank you for noting that and for watching the video Aleksandra! 🤝🏻
I have always loved his work. And I can't believe I don't have his book yet. I will fix that.
Fix it quick! 🤪 there’s a link in the description for it I got mine used from Amazon but it was actually in great condition as you can tell in the video :) thank you for watching Terry!
Fred Herzog photographed the Vancouver I grew up in. I have two of his books in my collection
Another wonderful addition to this rich catalogue of studies, especially with Herzog being one of my favourites. Thank you for making/sharing, Tatiana.
Thank you so much for the thoughtful words and for watching, much appreciated 🙏🏻
Hi Tatiana! Another outstanding video. I love Herzog’s work. To my eye, quite a few of his images remind me of a Norman Rockwell painting. Thank you for your commitment to your channel and for bringing us outstanding content to enjoy and learn from. Have a good day! ✌️
Agreed! I actually should’ve mentioned that but maybe some other time or video I love Norman Rockwell :) thank you for your kind words Joe and have a great day yourself ✌🏻
Tatiana, this video, along with your other videos contributes so much to me: professionally, personally, and inspires me to grow. Thank you.
Thank you so much Rebecca! I really appreciate it and I’m really glad they help you in any way shape or form that’s my goal 🤝🏻✨
@@TatianaHopper you are reaching your goal!!!
Excellent video Tatiana. Herzog's work is amazing, his use of color with Kodachrome is inspirational to say the least. Keep up the great work!
Agreed, I found it extremely inspirational too thank you for watching Rich 🤝🏻
Herzog is one of my favorite photographers, but I love also E. Hopper. Great video and storytelling, as usual Tatiana, Rosaria
Thank you so much! I really appreciate it and my love for Edward Hopper is pretty noticeable in this video 😂
Keep discovering and sharing, thankyou Tatiana. Much appreciated.
Thank you! Will do! All the best!
I shot 1000s of frames on Kodachrome. Both 25 asa and 64 asa. In the right conditions the colour was sublime.
Printing was mainly via Cibachrome but there were few (now about two!) people who could do it well. I had two beautifully subtle ones done but others could look blocky, lacking shadow detail etc.
Dye sublimation was far more reliable but so expensive!
Makes total sense thank you for making those nomes, really appreciate it, I know for instance that Eggleston’s work was dye print which definitely makes it more vibrant and lasting (so I read) but I would definitely say all that quality isn’t cheap like you pointed out!
I always learn something new from your films. Thank you. I also really like your music choices - I'd love to see a play list sometime. ❤
Great suggestion! Thanks for watching!
All of your videos are worthwhile! Kodachrome 25 & 64, in my opinion, were the best color films ever produced. The fact that Fred Herzog was able to get so many wonderful photographers in spite of Kodachrome's low ASA & limited latitude is amazing.
As someone who's been taking "artistic" photographs (mostly urban & street) since around 2009 but having paid ZERO attention to *_actual_* street photographers... your videos are so immensely helpful at showing me what I've been missing out on for so long. I've never heard of Fred Herzog (which is a shame) but now I'm going to dive into his photos including purchasing his book on eBay. Thank you for introducing people like me - someone who loves to express himself with photos but never sought out the work of "real" photographers - to incredible artists like Fred Herzog.
I can remember seeing the image at 4:30 in a Sunday times magazine way back in the 1970's. I was always more intrigued by what was going through the photographer's mind when the man turned around and fixed that stare!! was he worried he'd get punched was my main question?!?!
I generally don’t have a lot of time for the genre of street photographers. Herzog and a small handful of others are the exception. Lovely slice of time in those examples.
Thanks for watching Joseph!
Thank you for your videos you do- I enjoyed this one very much.
Thank you so much for watching glad to know you enjoyed it 🙏🏻 all the best!
Great video!, thanks for sharing. I love the way you present these great photographers work!.
Thank you very much Jorge!
Excellent as always! Fred & Saul are 2 of my faves.
Mine too! Thanks!
Herzog is iconic for sure. Thank you!
Thank you for watching Gary!
Excellent vid! Herzog was great....🔥👏
Thank you for watching Joseph 🙏🏻✨
What a fantastic birthday present! You posted a video solely dedicated to my favorite photographer! Thank you thank you!!!
Lovely you are so welcome and happy birthday! 🎉
@@TatianaHopper Thank you!
Fantastic video, I'm so glad you covered Herzog, I think he has been vastly undervalued for his contribution to color street photography. I shot a lot of Kodachrome back in the day plus I inherited trays of it from my father and I have to say the colors are just lush. A photographer who shot a lot of Kodachrome for its equally wonderful color was Marie Cosindas (though not a street photographer). A story that went around (which may well be apocryphal) back in the late 60s when I started out that National Geographic issued Kodachrome and all the photographers underexposed it by a stop primarily to get more saturated color.
Hey there thank you for watching! I had no idea about Marie Cosindas but I should search her as well, I think Kodachrome is definitely another level and would love to see Kodak come out with a very close alternative. I didn’t know about that story but it sure is cool and impressive :) all the best ✨
Another trick many of us did to add contrast and saturation if needed was the duplicate the slides. Manipulating light and exposure, even using coloured filters could be a game changer. See Pete Turner for instance…
@@kronkite1530 didn't recall the slide duplication technique but it certainly makes sense (I use to duplicate slides a fair bit and recall the contrast but I don't think I ever tried to use it). I should add Pete Turner is a hero of mine, he influenced me enormouselty back in the early 70s; a lot of my slide copying was an attempt (with emphasis on attempt) to emulate him.
@@aes53 Turner was a giant back in the sixties. Very memorable jazz album covers...I loved the Wes Montgomery cover of the cigarette ashtray with the hint of red lipstick
@@Joseph_Greco I’ve been an admirer of Pete Turner for many decades. In fact when Szarkowski announced that MoMA was going to have its first color show I wishfully hoped it would be Turner. Sadly it wasn’t. I contacted Turner a couple of years before he died and bought a print from him. We have two signed prints of his in our collection.
Thank you for this awesome video Tatiana ❤ I love when you do these reflections about why we take photographs
Wonderful. Thank you.
Thank you for watching Guy!
I love Fred Herzog! It’s so nice to see some photography done in a place I know (as opposed to New York, etc.). Having known Vancouver since the 1980s, seeing a much older version of the city is fascinating!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!
This is the level I hope to get to one day!
Loved the opening video, and the plant behind you. Nice new setup. Always enjoy watching. Thank You.
Thank you so much I’m trying to improve and always change things around. :)
I’m always captivated by your selection of artists. Simply could not look away! I resonated w/ the message of persistence, sometimes I feel like that’s all I have as an artist…
And trust me persistence is a great thing to have, one of the keys to consistency and development as an artist!
Fred Herzog’s Modern Color has a prominent place on my bookshelves. The returning red accents in those beautiful Kodachrome color intrigues me. I’ve used Kodachrome 64 for my personal work for many years. For printed work, editors usually weren’t very pleased with it, but as slides it was great. Thanks Tatiana, for another great episode.
Thanks for commenting Jacob and for watching! All the best!
Hello, thank you for this latest video, interesting as always. You are right in saying that slides were hard to print in the 70s. In fact the outcome would be too contrasty. Therefore, a Swiss Company "Alpa Co." invented a device to photograph slides on film to then printing it "normally". This device consisted in a body+bellow+lens held vertically above a light box hiding a flash below the translucent glass on wich the slide would lay to be photographed. A bit as an enlarger, except that the box+flash would replace the board. The difference was that a fiber optic cable would pick up some of the flash light and reinject it in the bellow, therefore softening contrast. The quantity of light being reinjected would be adjustable to fit different slides exposure. Later on Alpa Co. went bankrupt as they did not adapt to the new tendences and technology. A few years ago, people fron Zurich bought what was left and gave a second life to the Apla cameras, but changing from 24x36 to medium format with precious wood handles, etc. You can see these products on www.alpa.swiss/. Best to you.
Thanks T. Hopper, always interesting and satisfying presentation of moving photographers of our times. It's as if you can take us to those soulful moments when these images were created and show their craft and skill at work. It provides a real and true push for all of us to strive towards.
Thank you so much for the kinds words, glad the videos resonate with you and you appreciate the work of these great photographers, all the best!
Outstanding episode ,Tatiana !
Thank you so much! 🙏🏻
@@TatianaHopper Patriotism forces me to ask if you have seen my remark about the episode ' film directors who were photographers' namely Anton Corbijn ? It's no illl will of couse and you do understand ,don't you ? 😆
Thanks Tatiana, I was not familiar with Herzog. Will check this out, especially as I lived in Vancouver for some years (in the early 2000s), so I guess he was there. Also coincidentally he passed away on my birthday!
Oh what a shame but also weird coincidence isn’t it. Thank you for commenting and for watching I really appreciate it 🙏🏻
Ma’am I’m always amazed by you!!! I have so much to say to you, but I’m always at a loss of words!!!! Thank you!!!!
Thank you so much Terry for watching and always leaving lovely feedback, God bless!
Love watching your videos on photographers!
Thank you Nora! 🙏🏻
Big fan of your channel. The way you show the subject of your video is very inspiring.
I appreciate that! Thank you for watching!
Great video, as always. Thank you. I love your channel. Greetings from Cape Town, South Africa.
Thank you for watching! Much appreciated!
Hey! I discovered your channel just yesterday and its already one of my favourite photography channels out there. Thank you for the work and keep it up!
Thank you so much Vitor I really really appreciate it 🙏🏻
Loved the overview of why Kodachrome was not easy to develop & print and how that can be attributed to why Herzog's work was not well known (accessible/distributable) until the 70s and then how you tied Herzog's continued photography journey is a perfect example of an unwavering commitment o photography. The whole commitment topic is timely for me bc I am dedicating more time to photography and promoting my work while at the same time getting more committed to my job, which I enjoy immensely. I am in a restructuring/rethinking of who I am and what I want and what I am committing to and why. Why am I wanting to commit to photography and why am I doing it?
Fun stuff.
Kinda like life.
Anyway, thank you for another thought provoking and fun video, one that yet again is well produced and sharp.
Thankl you.
Some great thoughts there Fernando, I can relate a whole lot to them actually and I appreciate you for sharing them, those questions are vital to find a sense of self, direction and peace within us. I tend to ask them as well. Fun stuff indeed. All the best 🙏🏻
Fascinating video - great photography from Herzog.
Glad you enjoyed it thank you!
I like your video. What you said about the three characters of street photography, in my own words are: appreciating (a nice, photograph-worthy scene), documenting (capture the scene), and interpreting (add your own artistic interpretation of it). You need all three of these elements to make a great street photography.
Well said! Thanks for sharing your thoughts Darren!
I'm recent subscriber and I coincidentally bought Modern Color a few weeks ago! The essays in the beginning are so good. Especially the part about his work being welcoming and unforced. His commitment to color and specifically red is something I appreciate. Love what you're doing with the channel.
Welcome aboard! And what a coincidence thanks for watching and yes I agree the essays in the beginning of the book are very good
Really inspired by your videos. I always learn something and gain a new perspective on the art of photography. Thank you so much for what you do!
Glad you like them! Thanks for watching Joshua!
Incredible, both the object and the video itself. Thank you.
Thank you for your very inspiring inputs. Fred Herzog: I didn't know: so strong images! Impressed!
You're very welcome Christoph! Glad it was helpful!
I bought the book thanks to this great review. Thank you, Tatiana. Keep on sharing.
Thank you! Will do! :)
Just like the term “cinematic”, I feel like “street photography” became a very overused blurred word. Thanks for also providing a sort of definition
Totally agree! Thank you for sharing that!
You always do a fabulous job on your presentations!
Thank you so much Doug!
ASA 25 and 64 that was all the film speed you had it’s amazing that any photographer would shoot it still have a Aluminum film canister from the sixties
I have some in my fridge, someone gifted me this beautiful specimen which I dare not to touch or ruin in anyway!
Thanks for this video, Fred Herzog is a very interesting photographer. Although some of his photos are exceptional, I don't see him as a genius of color photography like Saul Leiter or Harry Gruyaert, as he seems to me stylistically less consistent.
Insisting on the role of Kodachrome is very relevant. Young photographers, at least those who know little about the history of photography, can't imagine that this film was much more than a film and a very particular technology. It was artistically, culturally, a new vision of color photography.
When I was a young photographer, in the late 70s and early 80s, there were those who used Kodachrome and those who didn't, and opinions for and against were quite strong, as they can be about an artistic movement.
The technical, cultural and artistic importance of this film would deserve an entire video.
Thank you so much for your comment I actually wrote this to someone else but will write it here as well I do believe as a younger photographer who has not dealt with Kodachrome that it’s like I skipped several classes in a photography degree or like only tried black and white or only tried a 35mm camera, I definitely feel like Kodachrome is another medium almost like you wrote and from its process to the experience of shooting etc it’s so different that we all could learn so much as photographers by shooting a couple of rolls. And yes I agree with you to me he is not on the same “wave” as Leiter or Haas were but still an excellent photographer :)
@@TatianaHopper Ernst Haas, of course! Hans Silvester, a German photographer born in 1938 but still active today, who has lived in France since 1962, is also a master of Kodachrome.
@@michelphilippeLehaire I just did a quick research there is he the gentleman who photographs African tribes? I came across a page there but wasn't sure.
Keep doing the great work. Never give up anything you love to do just because of a minority of mean people whom you dont even know.
Absolutely! Never will :) and neither should anyone! ✨
Again you play my favorite garage rock song. 😊 Technical side note. I am a avid B&W film photographer and am in the process of editing 23 years of old photos. The color photos I took on older CCD cameras look closer to film, like these photos from Fred than any of my modern cameras which have a more clinical look. I smiled when I saw the color on some shots I had long forgotten about. So much so I have a ccd camera I used 18 years ago on the way. Thanks for your videos and efforts Tatiana.
What song is it?
@@rickysep8798 Have Faith. Artist Unknown
Thank you so much Mike! That’s amazing and yes actually I watched a video the other day where this guy was comparing older cameras and how they produce film like images for images that resemble film, he was using 10 or 15 year old cameras so I can definitely see where you’re coming from and believe it. All the best and thank you for watching !
@@Austinite333 I searched hours looking for this song thinking you meant the artist was unknown, not that the literal band's name was 'Unknown'....yeah, apparently there are a lot of songs called "Have Faith" 😂
@@MrRdmc my bad as I capitalized “unknown” giving it the appearance of a band name.
Your videos are wonderful!
I’ve learned again! Amazing video, Tatiana!🎉
Awesome! Thank you for watching! 🤝🏻
T. Hopper in front of E. Hopper, I really like such details 😝 and your video inspires me, as always. I have to give a chance to colour photography. I’ve been a little afraid of colour but maybe it’s time to give it a shot 🤔
Give it a shot, you’ll never know what you learn until you try :) all the best from the Hoppers! 🫠
Great video, Tatiana! "Modern Color" is going on my wishlist of photography books. And that's a great insight about committing to one's photography. It's an underrated aspect of photography that if you want to get good at it, you just have to keep taking your camera with you when you go places. Even a phone camera can work in a pinch. But it's the only way to sharpen one's eyes to what kinds of photographs you want to make.
Absolutely to me it was essential to learn to see photographically speaking but also it open myself to new waves for appreciating photography!
Another outstanding video Tatiana 👍
Thank you! Cheers James!
Great videos you got keep up the channel it is a big inspiration!
Thank you! Will do! :)
Street Photography is documentary in nature and its value will not come to fruition until those who can place its context, if ever.
It may be like fishing, the story told may be the prize.
Interesting thoughts, thank you for sharing 🤝🏻
Thank you for presenting this man to me :)
Thanks for watching!
I've shot thousands upon thousands of rolls of Kodachrome, mostly for magazines and book. The publishers used to demand work on transparencies (usually 2 1/4 medium format or larger).
I had no idea! That’s amazing and it certainly gives a different perspective when you compare it with the modern commodities we have today - all photographers, specially the professional ones :)
@THopper it was a different world prior to digital formats. Now, you just submit a finished jped or tiff in the specified ppi/dpi and that's it.
@@dangilmore9724 yes that’s what I imagine! That’s why I appreciate the experience and thoughts from photographers like you because it opens my perspective to change and the evolution of the medium. Thank you Dan!
@@TatianaHopper You're welcome!
These are special because there aren't another million pictures of those exact same spots at that exact point in time. Nothing you shoot in a city will ever hold a candle to these photographers of the past. You need to go somewhere remote and go to the remote part of that same area to get something as unique as possible.
Agreed and great point! 🙏🏻
Hello,
love the videos that i have seen so far. Thanks for sharing your toughts.
Being committed is good but change works wonders sometimes. Like Harry Gruyaert for example.
Greetz from Belgium, Erwin.
Thanks for another wonderful offering! Back in the 70-80' Kodachrome was the obvious way to work for both prof and laypeople to get the (almost vulgar, yet haunting) chromatic depth and richness we couldn't get from other films (easy to fade Agfa, very blue Ektachorome etc.) but there was another, rather trivial, matter for very young people like me... it was the cheapest way to get high quality results! Even today, after >40 years I can screen these slides and they mostly look great, on any wall size... :>)
but one (phil) comment - as a group/community..., we don't "need street photography" or any other type of (real) art - it comes from various (a very long and inexhaustible list of) personal/internal/intimate needs and urges. Whoever is telling you anything else is either lying or not a real artist (and I am not talking about prof. griding for various commercial/industrial/sci purposes...). All the best!
Thank you so much for your comment I appreciate your explanation of the different films back then, as for the comment I actually haven’t seen that comment yet but I do believe we need photography for different reasons and purposes in our lives as individuals and as a community :)
@@TatianaHopper Sure, sure... but I guess that the deeper discussion is about the differences between the benefits to all from the art of a few... and the real reasons driving REAL artists compared to artisans... (and sure... there is a lot to be said about the vague borders and lack of mutual exclusivity btw the two).
Another wonderful video, thanks Tatiana.. your analysis is really interesting without getting too high brow for us mere mortals ❤. Herzog's work is brilliant, especially given the slowness and inflexibility of Kodachrome. I don't think I had come across his work much so thanks for that too.
That’s right, I mean I never dealt with Kodachrome, but even when I talked about the idea of an image being an organised chaos and mentioned the work of Martine Frank I took a minute or realise that he was doing all this work with a really difficult film stock, goes to show his qualities has a photographer, thank you so much Alan! 🤝🏻
Fantastic video ,ishoot black and white only but ido appreciate the aesthetics of all the colour work as well 😊
Thank you Christine, I think it’s essential to look at both just for the openness and inspiration :)
At around 6:50 you mention that when using slide film, the exposure of the negative must be precise in order to get the best results.
Slide film don't involve a negative. 😁
Correct I made a mention in the video’s description my apologies.
No need to apologise, it's not like you stepped on my shoe.😋
You refered to Kodachrome as a "negative" several times; it should be refered to as a "positive" film. I really enjoy your videos.
As someone that's old enough to have used Kodachrome for years (since the 1970's) from Pro work to Holiday shots, it was not a hard film to shoot with but limited as in 35mm form it had only 25-64-200 iso speeds and all had an pre-paid envolope for sending the film back to Kodak to processing, which was paid for in the price of the film. As far as i'm know only in the U.S was the film available without processing.
Very interesting thank you for sharing that Paul and thank you for watching the video!
from the moment I saw nighthawk on the wall I already new I was going to like the video
Ahaha amazing! Thanks for watching!
Good video. Just FYI that National Geographic started using Kodachrome in the 1930's. Kodachrome became the only film allow for the magazine. I miss that film.
Thank you someone else also commented that :)
Where did you find the song in the beginning?
I actually can’t remember but definitely somewhere in yt as I follow different channels with playlists and old song collections.
how does she find such good music
Vancouverite here: it looks nothing like Herzog’s photographs anymore, for the most part. It’s incredibly sad.
And that’s why I say it’s imperative to invent time travel, because some things had just a different flair in the past! Ahah
thanx for mentioning you can get negatives from slide film, got some rolls in my fridge that I didn't shoot because of processing would be complected
Before commenting maybe read the video’s description where I pointed out my mistake and promptly apologised for any confusion. It really was a slip of the tongue and I didn’t mean to confuse or obviously make that mistake. Hope the video was helpful anyways and thank you for watching 🙏🏻
I like his pictures but they are more interesting because they are from a bygone era. I believe the 20th century was the age of photography, things were still new then. We are drowning in pictures these days, mostly dull.
Agreed I think the era is definitely a reference point in these pictures!
There are ass*oles everywhere. They won`t be anything of relevance. Don`t let them win, don`t give up. You are doing a great job, very much appreciated by people who love photography.
Thank you so much you’re very kind! 🤝🏻