Not prioritizing quality wins for at-large selection--Alabama and Ole Miss should be in over Indiana and SMU. If you're going to expand the field, you need to feature teams that can actually win the championship--not just reward more "deserving" teams.
not having home field for the bye teams - but the 1st Rd do - also how the seeding is - the stronger teams are playing 1st Rd - weaker teams got the bye
There are going to be problems with whatever system/format there is. To Geoff's (and many others') first point about how they should seed 1-12 regardless if you are a conf champ or not - if they did that, there is 0 reason to play the B1G championship since Penn State would be getting a bye in this scenario. SEC Championship would be in this boat too, but to a lesser extent this year since Georgia got a bye and obviously wouldn't have if they had lost to Texas, but Texas would have no reason to play it then. Ideally, they just get rid of the conference championship games because they cause such a big problem when it comes to the committee, some teams getting a huge 13th data point, etc, but I'm very skeptical they ever get rid of them because of the money involved. Maybe they'll expand to 16 or 24 and get rid of them as basically a swap to make it cleaner. The bigger issue in terms of fairness (and helping fans out travel wise) is making at least the Quarterfinals at home sites (if not, the Semifinals too). This is probably the biggest change they need to make to address the fairness and urgency to have teams try to earn as high of a seed as possible. It would address Bear's point about how teams are still getting geographical disadvantage who are the better seeded team at times, which goes against the bracketing rules, but they're stuck since they are stupidly being stubborn with the attachment to the bowls. My guess is this gets changed once we get to 2026 with the new contract. The schools and towns/cities they reside in could use the influx of cash as opposed to it still getting shelled out to the bowl system. One thing to keep in mind though - this will lead to bigger margins of victory and fewer tight finishes. They will still happen, just to a slightly lesser extent. Remember in the 4 team CFP how everyone complained everything was a blowout in the semis from basically 2015-2021? Well, homefield well aid the bigger margin of victory, especially if you are doing a true seeding order. That said, with NIL now and the talent getting more spread out and fewer elite teams, this is probably less of an issue today, but still worth bringing up.
What's your biggest issue with the CFP format?
Not prioritizing quality wins for at-large selection--Alabama and Ole Miss should be in over Indiana and SMU. If you're going to expand the field, you need to feature teams that can actually win the championship--not just reward more "deserving" teams.
what about army😂
not having home field for the bye teams - but the 1st Rd do - also how the seeding is - the stronger teams are playing 1st Rd - weaker teams got the bye
seeding by conference has so many flaws compared to something like espn power index and or coaches poll
Seeding other than by final poll. Top 4 teams should get the bye.
I totally enjoy the group chat and the information that is shared. I also enjoy the show. Thank you all.
Jeff your excellent at WHINING yourself.
I would be SHOCKED if 2 underdogs don't win outright. 1 is very likely close too for sure.
I think Tennessee and SMU will win, and Clemson is a good cover bet.
Clemson will get crushed @ Texas .
Clemson beats Texas
Tennessee lost to Arkansas
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@ScarletGray-o3j told you about Michigan game. Everyone thinks Vegas has all the answers.
There are going to be problems with whatever system/format there is.
To Geoff's (and many others') first point about how they should seed 1-12 regardless if you are a conf champ or not - if they did that, there is 0 reason to play the B1G championship since Penn State would be getting a bye in this scenario. SEC Championship would be in this boat too, but to a lesser extent this year since Georgia got a bye and obviously wouldn't have if they had lost to Texas, but Texas would have no reason to play it then. Ideally, they just get rid of the conference championship games because they cause such a big problem when it comes to the committee, some teams getting a huge 13th data point, etc, but I'm very skeptical they ever get rid of them because of the money involved. Maybe they'll expand to 16 or 24 and get rid of them as basically a swap to make it cleaner.
The bigger issue in terms of fairness (and helping fans out travel wise) is making at least the Quarterfinals at home sites (if not, the Semifinals too). This is probably the biggest change they need to make to address the fairness and urgency to have teams try to earn as high of a seed as possible. It would address Bear's point about how teams are still getting geographical disadvantage who are the better seeded team at times, which goes against the bracketing rules, but they're stuck since they are stupidly being stubborn with the attachment to the bowls. My guess is this gets changed once we get to 2026 with the new contract. The schools and towns/cities they reside in could use the influx of cash as opposed to it still getting shelled out to the bowl system.
One thing to keep in mind though - this will lead to bigger margins of victory and fewer tight finishes. They will still happen, just to a slightly lesser extent. Remember in the 4 team CFP how everyone complained everything was a blowout in the semis from basically 2015-2021? Well, homefield well aid the bigger margin of victory, especially if you are doing a true seeding order. That said, with NIL now and the talent getting more spread out and fewer elite teams, this is probably less of an issue today, but still worth bringing up.
No one whines more than Jeff on vsin live on Sundays!!!
Please make Notre dame a favorite against UGA lmao. Free money
Bet against the bear and you'll get rich!
the group chat without geoff would be more enjoyable