Coloured/ Mixed Saffa here. Thank you so much for the price you paid for my future and freedom. I associate the 95 game with the first time I was ever proud of being South African at age 9. I didnt watch another match until this year, because NZ is so important, I couldn't miss it. ❤
Can I assume your pride is more important than the lives of 15000 black people that was murdered in 2023? Or are your pride more important than the income loses of millions of black people who lost their jobs at state owned enterprises? Enterprises that was shut down due to ANC's corruption. Imagine a country who lost it's rail network, post office and national airline to corruption.
I’m a Kiwi, and I was at a very conservative high school in 1981, Christ’s College, but my friends and I were horrified by the Springbok Tour, but because we were boarders at a boarding school, we had to sneak away to protest. Being 16/17 years old we were not proficient at sneaking, so we got caught trying to leave school to join the Christchurch, NZ, demonstration against the Springbok tour. The teacher who caught us gave us the mandatory detention, which we reused to serve, and which he had no interest in making us do! My family was classic rural New Zealand (Aotearoa)which in those days was Labour Mum(liberal)+ National Dad(conservative). Except liberal & conservative meant quite different things in NZ in 1981 than they do in places like the US in 2023. So typical it that Labour Mum / National Dad was a country-wide joke back then, but, New Zealand was a very different country before Helen Clarke was able to mold it to her wishes in later years. Our old 19th/20th NZ culture is gone in the north, and is dying in the south. But, so many of us who are called “Pākehā” (pale, imaginary beings resembling men)meaning those of us of European origin, remember how totally and completely offended we were by the 1981 Springbok Tour, and how hard we wanted to stop it.
Funny when the Maoris were oppressed their land stolen, no maori President prisons filled with Maoris poverty is rife, 90% of the richest nz are white or asian Maoris and aborigines are the worst ofc of all indigemous people..hypocrites are you all
I’m a South African. I remember the tour and for most of my life I was so angry at the protesters for ruining the tour. We were constantly subjected to the argument on SABC TV: keep politics out of sport. Only to discover that it was the SOUTH AFRICAN sports authorities who used to tell the New Zealand RFU who they could put in their team!! I mean how dare the the South African Rugby Football Union tell another team who they can pick for their side!! Absolutely ridiculous!!! I know you won’t believe me, but due to censorship, we genuinely did not know that the SARFU was telling other countries who they could send to play against us!!
Today when they play together it's a major F* you to past government and apartheid. Kiwis are very pragmatic and protective. Don't say anything about our South African people that are at home in Aotearoa. They're us.
Thank You, from Kiwis, standing up to extreme arrogance and injustice that was the Apartheid regime was something to be proud of. Sadly that arrogance is still is still there with some
@@deklerkverwoerd7721 Hey dickead have you seen the Color of the Mighty Boks nowa days ... Yea the Fucking World Champs seems plain Black and White to me buddy buahahaha
You`r a Good cu#t Jakob Hopfer and i wish you and your Fams all the best, even better if you`r living in NZ ... I love watching how your World Champs Celebrate when they win a game or even score a try ... It Truly is nowa Days a Brotherhood of 2 Colors ... Yesterdays done and gone today and tomrrow is all that matters
Hikitia, hapaiga te mahi nei. Tēnā koutou i tutuki te mura o te ahi i tērā wā, koutou gā kaipūrongo i whakarite tēnei kiriata i tēnei wā mahi whakahirahira rawa - Mauri Ora
Great video - well researched and you interviewed some extremely relevant people. Well done! I was only 13 in 1981 and based in the Waikato and from a real pro rugby family. I remember my Dad cursing the protesters... Wish i was more aware of the cause... wouldve loved to ride my bike down there and get amongst the thick of it joining the protesters. They can be very proud of their stand!!
Good they interviewed Errol Tobias. Should have also interviewed Wayne Shelford or someone similar to give an opposing viewpoint as to why they chose to play.
So we’ve gone from protesting apartheid to becoming anapartheid country, one without equal representation, one without democracy… at least the South Africans can say they didn’t know better… NZ never met a bad idea it didn’t want to emulate!
New Zealand has never had equal representation if it did Maori would co govern New Zealand has always had a euro centric government system one race governs and that's the European race now that's apartheid
People were going about their legal business. What happened, particularly in Auckland, was anarchy. The Police were upholding the rule of law. We weren't about to have people like John Minto dictate our freedom of movement. The government had to protect the rule of law.
I was at the Wellington game with my Father & my brother, we did not support apartied or racism we jus wanted to bash them at rugby & humiliate them, the protesters never understood that ...we hated racism, we had a lot Maori & Pacific islanders in all our teams on that tour, god bless them
And black people are free to go live where they want, participate in any sports and elevate to positions that were previously for whites. You cannot ridicule the people's struggle by trying to point only to the negative that are happening now, there are many positive, clearly not for you but for millions that had no access to what you had
I can read through the sarcasm and always keep in mind it’s in that state cause of your people still owning 80% of our BLACK LAND. People are hungry here cause of YOU still living like you didn’t catch on kak with your people
My brother and I had gone over the fence a week before with HART waikato university back up crew on a Recce mission We pasted stop the tour posters all over the walls and cut the wires at the base of the fence. Couldn't get the ticket booth to catch alight. The security was intense after that mission. We climbed back over near the cemetery and got away for a good party. The riot squad was waiting under the stands on the big day. SIS had even broken into uni student offices to try to figure out whats up. We caught the bastards but they got away. Fucking crazy times
Rewrite of history. The fence at Kowhai and Hamilton were climbed not effectively cut at all. I pulled out the top wire at Hamilton (single handed) the cutter s at the base were not effective, crawling into a rugby crowd was simply inviting violence. At Kowhai Intermediate the fence was not cut but bent over under the weight of those climbing it, including myself. The organisers did a great job of meetings, propaganda marches and creating squads but on the day it was lone operators like myself who broke the barriers.
South Africa played USA Ireland France and South America in from 1980 tp 1982. Noone else in the international community said anything until the All Blacks were involved. NZ and amateur sport was unfairly singled out by hypocrites.
@@jossiesteenkamp9317endangering the public with reckless low flying aircraft and dropping 1kg bags of flour, throwing broken glass and nails onto playing pitches is not my idea of freedom
Coloured/ Mixed Saffa here. Thank you so much for the price you paid for my future and freedom.
I associate the 95 game with the first time I was ever proud of being South African at age 9.
I didnt watch another match until this year, because NZ is so important, I couldn't miss it. ❤
As a black South African i have a special place in my heart for all blacks when i hear about this action ❤
Can I assume your pride is more important than the lives of 15000 black people that was murdered in 2023? Or are your pride more important than the income loses of millions of black people who lost their jobs at state owned enterprises? Enterprises that was shut down due to ANC's corruption. Imagine a country who lost it's rail network, post office and national airline to corruption.
I’m a Kiwi, and I was at a very conservative high school in 1981, Christ’s College, but my friends and I were horrified by the Springbok Tour, but because we were boarders at a boarding school, we had to sneak away to protest. Being 16/17 years old we were not proficient at sneaking, so we got caught trying to leave school to join the Christchurch, NZ, demonstration against the Springbok tour. The teacher who caught us gave us the mandatory detention, which we reused to serve, and which he had no interest in making us do! My family was classic rural New Zealand (Aotearoa)which in those days was Labour Mum(liberal)+ National Dad(conservative). Except liberal & conservative meant quite different things in NZ in 1981 than they do in places like the US in 2023. So typical it that Labour Mum / National Dad was a country-wide joke back then, but, New Zealand was a very different country before Helen Clarke was able to mold it to her wishes in later years. Our old 19th/20th NZ culture is gone in the north, and is dying in the south. But, so many of us who are called “Pākehā” (pale, imaginary beings resembling men)meaning those of us of European origin, remember how totally and completely offended we were by the 1981 Springbok Tour, and how hard we wanted to stop it.
Pākehā in context means angelic. We need a new literal word! Obviously.
So, you were cross at the South Africa government, and then took it out on the players who could not change anything?
Funny when the Maoris were oppressed their land stolen, no maori President prisons filled with Maoris poverty is rife, 90% of the richest nz are white or asian Maoris and aborigines are the worst ofc of all indigemous people..hypocrites are you all
I’m a South African. I remember the tour and for most of my life I was so angry at the protesters for ruining the tour. We were constantly subjected to the argument on SABC TV: keep politics out of sport.
Only to discover that it was the SOUTH AFRICAN sports authorities who used to tell the New Zealand RFU who they could put in their team!! I mean how dare the the South African Rugby Football Union tell another team who they can pick for their side!! Absolutely ridiculous!!! I know you won’t believe me, but due to censorship, we genuinely did not know that the SARFU was telling other countries who they could send to play against us!!
Today when they play together it's a major F* you to past government and apartheid. Kiwis are very pragmatic and protective. Don't say anything about our South African people that are at home in Aotearoa. They're us.
Let them kiwis come and see what they were dancing for ...they wouldn't last the week ..esp there women.....
@@tobolee6385you reap what you sow brother
Oh Bullshit! SARFU would tell the New Zealand selectors who they could put in their team? How much Durban poison have you been smoking?
U have no idea hater@@tobolee6385
My family are South African, I was born after apartheid ended but I 100% agree with the protests. You guys did a great deed
what rubbish
Thank You, from Kiwis, standing up to extreme arrogance and injustice that was the Apartheid regime was something to be proud of. Sadly that arrogance is still is still there with some
@@deklerkverwoerd7721 Hey dickead have you seen the Color of the Mighty Boks nowa days ... Yea the Fucking World Champs seems plain Black and White to me buddy buahahaha
You`r a Good cu#t Jakob Hopfer and i wish you and your Fams all the best, even better if you`r living in NZ ... I love watching how your World Champs Celebrate when they win a game or even score a try ... It Truly is nowa Days a Brotherhood of 2 Colors ... Yesterdays done and gone today and tomrrow is all that matters
Was good for both parties everyone got to play there part😆
If ACT get their referendum on the treaty we will see a hikoi that will make this look like picnic
Yeah. And I was there. Hot off Bastian Point and ready to rumble. Now just a docile Nana smiling for my moko. Still gorgeous I will hasten to add 😉🤣
Hikitia, hapaiga te mahi nei. Tēnā koutou i tutuki te mura o te ahi i tērā wā, koutou gā kaipūrongo i whakarite tēnei kiriata i tēnei wā mahi whakahirahira rawa - Mauri Ora
Unga bunga zulu papa laka tucka bugga
@@Tokkan1please educate yourself
@@smajliiicka to do what exactly?
@@Tokkan1 to not make a fool of yourself online... Purple haze is writing in te reo, not a made up language... Your comment is pretty small minded
@@Tokkan1idiot😂
Great video - well researched and you interviewed some extremely relevant people. Well done! I was only 13 in 1981 and based in the Waikato and from a real pro rugby family. I remember my Dad cursing the protesters... Wish i was more aware of the cause... wouldve loved to ride my bike down there and get amongst the thick of it joining the protesters. They can be very proud of their stand!!
Good they interviewed Errol Tobias. Should have also interviewed Wayne Shelford or someone similar to give an opposing viewpoint as to why they chose to play.
So we’ve gone from protesting apartheid to becoming anapartheid country, one without equal representation, one without democracy… at least the South Africans can say they didn’t know better… NZ never met a bad idea it didn’t want to emulate!
Your comment shows how ignorant as well as racist you are - if you loved the tour, just say so
How so?
New Zealand has never had equal representation if it did Maori would co govern New Zealand has always had a euro centric government system one race governs and that's the European race now that's apartheid
People were going about their legal business.
What happened, particularly in Auckland, was anarchy. The Police were upholding the rule of law. We weren't about to have people like John Minto dictate our freedom of movement. The government had to protect the rule of law.
I was at the Wellington game with my Father & my brother, we did not support apartied or racism we jus wanted to bash them at rugby & humiliate them, the protesters never understood that ...we hated racism, we had a lot Maori & Pacific islanders in all our teams on that tour, god bless them
There was an apartheid in south Africa, they didn't want maori to play. Its racist, that's why they protested.
I would have backed politics separated from sport. Time evolves your perspective…..proud we stood up
Besides everything, it was still great to watch the Rugby, on TV in South Africa, early hours of the morning...
South Africa is in such a better state now. 5th Highest crime rate in the world, highest crime rate in Africa.
And black people are free to go live where they want, participate in any sports and elevate to positions that were previously for whites. You cannot ridicule the people's struggle by trying to point only to the negative that are happening now, there are many positive, clearly not for you but for millions that had no access to what you had
Europeans are the cause of all that
I can read through the sarcasm and always keep in mind it’s in that state cause of your people still owning 80% of our BLACK LAND. People are hungry here cause of YOU still living like you didn’t catch on kak with your people
My brother and I had gone over the fence a week before with HART waikato university back up crew on a Recce mission
We pasted stop the tour posters all over the walls and cut the wires at the base of the fence. Couldn't get the ticket booth to catch alight. The security was intense after that mission. We climbed back over near the cemetery and got away for a good party. The riot squad was waiting under the stands on the big day. SIS had even broken into uni student offices to try to figure out whats up. We caught the bastards but they got away. Fucking crazy times
@@johnworthington8360 Thanks to you idiots the " new" SA is a sh..thole !!!
1 Person 1 Vote; no special people based on race etc just 1 Person 1 Vote. We have to defend democracy in New Zealand!
This was 4 yrs before my mum was born
✊🏽✊🏿✊🏻💯
real
Rewrite of history. The fence at Kowhai and Hamilton were climbed not effectively cut at all. I pulled out the top wire at Hamilton (single handed) the cutter s at the base were not effective, crawling into a rugby crowd was simply inviting violence. At Kowhai Intermediate the fence was not cut but bent over under the weight of those climbing it, including myself. The organisers did a great job of meetings, propaganda marches and creating squads but on the day it was lone operators like myself who broke the barriers.
South Africa played USA Ireland France and South America in from 1980 tp 1982. Noone else in the international community said anything until the All Blacks were involved. NZ and amateur sport was unfairly singled out by hypocrites.
No we were fighting for our freedom
The New Zealand public were the only ones willing to stand up for what's right.
@@jossiesteenkamp9317endangering the public with reckless low flying aircraft and dropping 1kg bags of flour, throwing broken glass and nails onto playing pitches is not my idea of freedom
Way too much yakketty yak rather than actual footage with talk over the top would have been far more interesting.
GLENEAGLES AGREEMENT WAS NOT HONOURED
Very big city Auckland-centric view of the protest movement.
The Boks were deliberately banned from 87 cup to give nz a chance
Really?
Don’t be that guy 🤦🏽♂️
@@Waks23 the truth
@Waks23 go check 1986 cavaliers got a smack from the boks
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National party at its best
I fought against the cops only because i cant stand them 😂
I love rugby to death but now I realize this tour should never have taken place
How do you feel now that South Africa is the only team in the world where the government instructs the couches who may play?
How many of these people are protesting against what jacinda ardern is doing to their country 🤔
What she doing to their country?
Must an activist be involved in every cause?
@@phelelomgolodela5501 I thought that they were the good guy's...
Are they no longer good guys because of their lack of involvement?
@Phelelo Mgolodela is it because that it's not fashionable enough
Encyclopedia of forms and precedence and he can't do anything start of vid people power once again
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