How are you going to stop and search somebody suspicious, find BULLETS in their possession and then NOT search them THOROUGHLY for a possible gun??? It just baffles me.
This is what happens when cops dont have guns... they think that no one else has them either... Criminals will always have guns even if the "good guys" don't because they don't follow laws...
They were clearly going to give him a full/strip search. He was just very manipulative and thought out, storing his gun while in the car and evading detection. This isn't laziness it's just a deeply unfortunate situation
@rhainaweissehexe3899where did he have it concealed? It's pretty fu*king hard to hide an entire gun on your body. There has to be more to this as he either retrieved it in the police station OR he had help on the inside because even a routing pat-down will result in a gun discovered if it's there. It can only be hidden near the waist area so there's no way to miss that unless he had it strapped to his ankle. Was the cop so lazy to not even pat his legs down? You are searched even more extensively once you enter the station so I just don't understand how this could happen
Yeah and if they allowed their officers (the good guys) to carry guns maybe that officer could have had a chance to defend himself form the criminal (the bad guy).
They even found bullets and then proceeded to not search him properly, the police are only good for going after people that mis-gender someone these days.
I have seen at least 2 cases in US where perps sneak guns into custody and shoot/kill cops. Its down to arresting officers at scene to ensure everyone safety.
@THESTIG-cc7fq His point was how can you be a police officer and see something in his pocket and BELIEVES they are bullets. It doesn't take much to recognize a bullet.
Because the UK isn't overrun with guns and bullets. Unlike the USA. He saw what could be bullets, but if they turned out to be fake, he wouldn't know at that point, because UK cops aren't required to be ballistics experts. Why would they be? Fancy sneering at the police of another country because they aren't used to gun violence. He paid the price, so yay for you.
Not thoroughly searching a suspicious suspect is crazy but when they are constantly trying to get in they pockets and they still fail is a whole other level of incompetence
THERE WAS NO REASON to decide this character WAS a 'suspect' let alone 'suspicious'!! This nazi copper is a perfect outcome of putting a self-important bully into a uniform!
My guess is they're so used to "searching" people (law abiding citizens) for their own little POWER TRIPS that they never thought they'd actually FIND anything.
Bro, that female officer said how many canisters 😂 ! Can't even recognise bullets ? Bloody joke. Police are too nice, the criminals are just getting away.
You police in the UK need to not only carry arms..but always cuff anyone behind the back,..tight. Especially the immigration problem that the UK is having
@sureokk no, I disagree. No one *needs* to be walking around with firearms. They are designed to kill and the more ppl walking around them, the more people will be getting murdered. Only law enforcement need the right to be armed in the communities and public spaces. Hunters, trappers and outdoorsmen should have the right but not within city or town limits.
How tf did they miss a revolver, in a belt holster, ffs!? The man was wearing a long coat and he didn't check underneath the jacket?? Edit - and he kept putting his hands in his pockets too...I woulda been ultra suspicious of him after ordering him 3 times to keep his hands visible and away from pockets.
I don't get how I can tell he may be autistic, but they couldn't. It's like the officer got angrier the more buddy had difficulties with their interactions. The lady cop stayed cool, but he was the one searching him.
How in the world do you miss a gun when searching someone when you find bullets on that person? This literally is the biggest fail I've ever seen. The bullets should have been a clue. Did they think he was just throwing them at people? It's sad.
Easy, they patted him down from the front and totally ignored his back. They're incompetent. After finding the bullets they should have done a thorough search in case he had a small single shot pistol hidden on him. He should have been strip searched frankly.
I mean they're the kind of cops who give you 4 chances to dig in your pockets while cuffed before they warn you that NEXT TIME your getting cuffed in the back lol. Don't get me wrong American cops act way too jumpy and aggressive but cuffing a guy behind the back saves you alot of trouble and risk.
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@KnockOut242 just cuz bad stuff also happens everywhere else, doesn't take away from the severity of the UK cops' failure both in this case, and countless cases over the decades. He's absolutely correct in pointing out that there's SOOOOO MANY fuck-ups on behalf of the UK police. But this isn't a fucking competition, dude. Just cuz the USA has school shootings n shit, doesn't take away from the awful shit that happens over across the pond. Just in US citizen fashion, u r making this tragedy about "you" (the US, etc.)
Not if you're truly innocent. Cops are good at their job and if you're in trouble it's becuz your comment in its self says that expect to be arrested. Innocent will eventually allaby
I’m so sorry for Matt’s loved ones. Matt asked if a thorough search was done and the officers said yes. They missed a gun!! I hold the police accountable for the shoddy arrest.
Was too busy scolding the guy to search him thoroughly, classic cop gota give their whole philosophy + life story becuase theyve never had a position of power anywhere else in life
@BikingVikingHH How would it be racist to arrest someone if they had bullets in their pockets? The reality of the situation is that the cop is woeful at his job and cost the life of a good man. Use your head and switch on ffs🤦
@Uncle-Smart-Alec The government here in Britain introduced a new anti terrorism law a few years back which allows them to stop and search anyone at anytime. Causing a lot of trouble with normal law abiding folk because they abuse this power. This time they screwed up and paid the ultimate price. They should of rang armed back up and left it to the professionals.
I guess there is no such thing as a Terry Search in London. In the US this guy couldn't have even been stopped. Maybe if his civil rights weren't violated then dude would still be alive. I guess cops can be pigs no matter what country they're in
@GG-jw8ptoh so then they can just violated civil rights whenever they want. Just bc they don't like the way a guy looks the. They can search. NOT IN THE US. JUST SO EVERYONE IN THE US KNOWS. ITS CALLES A TERRY SEARCH AND IT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL. YOU MUST BE SUSPECTED OF A CRIME AND YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE TOLD WHAT CRIME BEFORE SUBMITTING TO A SEARCH OR EVEN HANDING OVER YOUR ID. KNOW YOUR RIGHTS STOP THESE TYRANTS. And acting suspicious is not a crime. They will tell you acting suspicious so they have to id you...NOPE!!! ask the what is the statute number for acting g suspicious that makes it a crime. AGAIN KNOW YOUR RIGHTS. Narcissict power hungry TYRANTS will take advantage of you at every chance.
I can’t believe it. How did they miss the gun? You even see the police officer checking his shoes but missed a foot long gun? It’s unbelievable. I would be more willing to believe he found the gun after he was searched which is crazy but it looked like he was so thoroughly checked! INSANE!
feels like there's more to this story, happened years ago and wasn't spoken about for ages, police used it as an excuse to fully violate the average civilian aswell .
Maybe I missed it, but was he handcuffed when he shot the officer? I know they like to cuff up in the front over in Europe vs. behind in the USA, and it would be easy to shoot even cuffed.
Most basic place to frisk someone just going into a club is under their arms. Surprised this basic procedure wasn't followed. Whether it was because he was cuffed from the front to begin with I really don't know but still gross incompetence. Apparently he dislocated his shoulder in the van to put the gun in his hand during the journey.
The woman cop didn’t know she had a handful of bullets??? She’s saying canisters! Good grief ,some peeps need to go back to cop school & have another go 😅
The man also kept requesting to be put in the car, and in the cell, requested people leave the cell. He knew he was a danger to himself/others, and what may have ended in a suicide instead ended in a murder. The failure to find the gun in the search and the failure to heed the guy's clear warning signs... fumbled.
BARELY searched. INCOMPLETELY SEARCHED. Basically not searched. Of course this is not America where a search involves any small crevasse or wrinkle on the most microscopic part of your body. UK you do not expect as much concealment but I bet NOW they do.
I think he put the gun on the seat of the car while he was in it? When he was searched he didn't have it on him..that's why they didn't find it?? I think he sat back down to wait for the paddy wagon and slipped it back into his pants?? MAYBE?
"THREE TIMES I've asked you" not to put your hands in your pockets, but he doesn't search his pockets or his trench coat to put himself, and his partner at ease? Then, finds bullets and his mind doesn't leap to the possibility of a gun in his possession? But, the officer says he's being arrested for "possession of a firearm", but none recovered even though he had "a foot long gun" hidden in his coat when he was searched? It's clear that the arresting officer was negligent in his duty to give a sufficient pat-down search of the suspect who was carrying bullets and drugs that would have found the foot-long gun he had under his coat. A foot-long gun. This murder could have been avoided if the arresting officer had done his job.
The arresting officer said that he was being arrested for possession of bullets, not for possession of a firearm. Regardless, the presence of bullets should have alerted him to the likelihood of a firearm on his person, and he should have searched him more thoroughly.
bro, it is not even creativity like he hid it somewhere unusual. Just the police failed to perform the search correctly / thoroughly, is just incompetence especially the multiple red flags of being nervous AF, reaching into pockets multiple times, carrying bullets should send alarm bells ringing. They still talk nice, london police (normal cops, not the train counter terrorist or specialist firearm officers) are ill equipped and also not wise to the criminal ways.
“What I believe to be bullets” either they’re bullets or not. Wtf. I get that guns aren’t as common in the UK as in the USA, but a cop not knowing what a bullet looks like is wild.
Armed police arrested a man in Manchester last year for carrying garden tools from his garden back to his house. In England many houses lack the space for yards so they have a piece of garden allotted to them in a designated gardening area. He was then detained for several hours because they couldn't find a lawyer to represent him.
@T@Tomsm8ut up dummy. Everyone wants to be rude and tough behind a phone screen. This has nothing to do with English. You can’t make fun of “my English” when I speak and study multiple Languages, so stop. You sound dumb. “Durrrr It’s called society” …then clearly you don’t even know what the word society means. Find someone else to argue with.. The dumb cop couldn’t identify or believe that they were actual bullets, probably because England doesn’t have a major gun problem.
He did every single part of a search correctly, except the lack of removing his jacket. It's not like he was lazy in every way. He just missed one important step but thoroughly searched everything else. The guy also clearly was trying to draw attention anywhere but where he had the gun, hence going in his pockets over and over.
As a retired Police Officer, I simply cannot list the number of unbelievable errors and failures observed in this video. I’ll sum it up with he should have been relieved of that heavy overcoat THE MOMENT the decision was made to make the arrest.
@magdapatriciaromerorimoldi5751 If you make him take off the coat himself he'll shoot you right through it. They needed to remove it but doing so safely isn't easy if the suspect decides to not cooperate.
Maybe they should have just let the guy walk; like they probably let others walk that night as oh easily. They here picked on the wrong person, and they picked on the wrong person again. That is what here happens when you give a human being an exorbitant amount of power over another in that form. The overall arrogance of Police in general in the way they are allowed to harass people. You open what oh yourselves to that stuff happening in general as even before you get to the Police department. You are God then in that instance of the scene. Stripping the everyday citizen of their rights to walk here freely. Like some old German flick, "can I see your papers?" Cops always saying they are right doing whatever.
I am not surprised this case never got much attention. The authorities would problably prefer not to have the level of gross incompentence displayed by the police to be amplified.
Its just one man... in a sea of billions, this is how most cases should be reported... the problem is your used to so much bullshit getting unwarranted attention that normal reporting seems strange to you. The media has successfully brainwashed you... congratulations :)
They were too busy arresting cafe owners and people for not wearing a mask. But man with a gun.... 'no its fine'. This illustrates exactly what i thought at the time....They would go after normal citizens with zeal...but actual criminals.... they didnt want to break a nail.
A poorly executed search of a suspect by one officer led to the execution of another officer. That is as tragic and as equally avoidable as circumstances get. Very sad indeed.
Wow. And the female officer who was there while he being searched near the car even told the officer that his waistband needs to be searched thoroughly as well. So sad. RIP for the officer and prayers to his family.
Actually its even worse was in the coat Not the waistband In the US Many PDs would have taken his coat off during the search or before they even put him in the van
@GTMemes2 I can tell you I absolutely would have removed his coat prior to putting him in the car ,you can not thoroughly search someone with that type of outerwear on , it's bulky and in this day and age weapons are smaller and smaller -becoming much more easily to conceal even without a jacket like this.
he was handcuffed u cant take off a coat if u are handcuffed so they would have made him take off the coat while being uncuffed so he prob would have shot the patrolling officers
@Robzabest25 They were supposed to remove the coat before they handcuffed him. They can't have anything obstructing their view of the suspect's hands in case, like in this situation, the suspect will try to reach for something. Even while they're in handcuffs.
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I have never seen two more incompetent officers than this pair, both should be sacked, and they are definitely responsible for the death of Matt, unbelievable.
So much to learn from this.. unfortunately someone had to lose their life. This should never have happened. Rest in peace and condolences to the family.🕊️
It happens all the time in Germany, France and the rest of Europe, Canada, Australia AND in Africa nations where Christian villages get mowed down and slaughtered, almost on a weekly basis. Now it’s also happening in the US under Biden. I wonder how long the Western world is going to try to help them, make peace with them with; nothing we try to do for centuries has helped them. We even get blamed when we try to save them from their own dictators!! This seems to be a prelude to a coming World War.
Come on officers!!!! The suspect is acting weird, has bullets in his pockets, and didn't do a deep search to find the firearm??? Nobody walks in the middle of the night carrying bullets in their pocket without having a gun! What a shame! RIP officer.
Because it was only "a foot long"??????? Were they looking for a RIFLE? You have bullets and no gun? I would immediately suspect the bullets were there for a reason. The cop who searched him murdered the cop that was killed.
My deepest condolences to that officer who was killed. I don't understand why the searching officers did not remove his jacket and searched it as well.. poor job. So sad to know the murdered officer was just about 2 months away from enjoying his deserved retirement. May he R.I.P
It is safe to assume that constable who did the initial cursory search is living with extreme guilt, knowing he failed to do a thorough field search thus missing the foot long hand gun and that gun killed his fellow officer, injuring others and himself. The mere fact the suspect had ammunition was probable cause to search him further by removing his coat entirely. The in-cab cctv even show him digging continually in his back area, as he did the same while seated in the holding area. A two man arm/hand hold control of the suspect after removing the restraints would have been the safest action to do. Just an observation.
He was extremely nervous from the get-go... This unfortunate horrible murder could've been avoided if the police officers thoroughly patted him down before placing him in their unit. My deepest sympathy to the officer's family.
@GamiGreenI don't think they did. It's hard to tell but it looks like right when the footage ends he's managed to pull the gun out and bring up to his hip and fire forwards while his hands are still cuffed behind his back. That's why the footage ends so abruptly at that point as that's when the shooting starts. He knew they were about to find the gun because the officer to our left is holding a metal detector. Ya never see the cuffs being taken off. 🤷♂
so was i the last time a cop pat me down lol, don't even know why, i told him too, told him i didn't know why but i just didnt expect to be checked for blades at a train station, and while i was happy to let em do it because i'm sick of the knife crimes, i was still nervous or anxious and had to stop a mild shake.. maybe that's just autism for you..
how about IF THEY DIDNT STOP HIM IN THE FIRST PLACE hmmmmmmmm burglary doesn't seem that serious now, does it? still didn't say he was guilty of robbing anyone or anything. Can replace material things, now you're fighting for your life for something that you don't know even happened...what made you decide to stop HIM??He wasnt do anything but walking late at night....
Agreed. Searches are one of the things police are told to take very seriously and do thoroughly otherwise outcomes like this can occur, tragically preventable. Especially after the discovery of ammunition.
The officers that carried out the stop and search should face justice for their incompetence. Absolutely mind boggling how you can find bullets and not search for a weapon.
@holdy-foldy The arresting officers are not dead they should feel ashamed. Matt Rattna was shot he was the custody sergeant on duty. The villan was not properly searched before entering the station.
@michaelcook6483 they wouldnt even know that if they hadnt illegaly searched him. I mean, after they did illegaly search him they STILL didnt know....lol English law enforcement is a joke to the rest of the world
The apprehending officer was clearly under the assumption that the suspect was just going to throw bullets at passers by, as there had been an epidemic of bullet throwing in that part of South London. There was definitely no need to search him for a gun.
This level of ignorance is mind-boggling. "Thoroughly searched", yet he had nearly a foot-long gun? Can't a single person in that station read body language? That criminal gave off more signals in a few seconds than you can even record. I have seen stupidity in England before but this is going to be hard to beat.
yea even when he refused to stand upright something was clearly off too... but its easy to judge when you're not there every day dealing with every sort of possible thing, nobody is perfect, it wasnt intentional as they put their own safety in jeopardy too
@ChopSquadBaby@MandenTV is correct, that is not how it works. I recently had a look at the Sky News Courts youtube channel and some of the recent sentences they showed were:- Gunman who shot dead a young girl jailed for at least 42 years. Two 16 year olds killed a 16 year old with a knife because they thought he was somebody else. One was jailed for a minimum of 18 years and the other for a minimum of 16 years. The judge said it would have been higher if they had been 18 instead of 16. A stepfather who killed a two year old child jailed for at least 28 years and the mother for 6. Nigerian politician, wife and doctor jailed over "organ harvesting" plot, sentenced under Modern Slavery Act. He received 9 years, the wife 4.5 and the doctor 10 years. 16 year old killed a 14 year old with a knife and sentenced to at least 19 years. It would have been higher if he had been 17 and even more so if had been 18+ A murderer who killed a young girl 30 years ago was recently convicted. He was sentenced to at least 29 years. The judge said that if the murder had been more recent then he would be serving at least 37 years but the law was different back then when the offence took place. A couple who killed their baby son were sentenced, with the father sentenced to at least 29 years and the mother 27 years. Another couple who killed their baby. The father sentenced to at least 32 years and the mother to 10 years. 19 yo pleaded guilty to planning acts of terrorism and intending to join ISIS in Syria. He received a 1/3 reduction for pleading guilty and he was sentenced to at least 6 years.
What would it take for police to have metal detecting wands like they do at airports? It won’t detect everything but itd make the search a little more thurough
This is the most unbelievable thing I have ever heard of, how in the sam hell did the cop searching this guy manage to miss, not only a gun, but a damn holster too. Wow.
@temparalflux I've missed it somehow. I don't follow the news much. Most of the RUclipsrs I follow are about 50/50 UK and US though. Such a tragedy for a peace officer simply doing his job. The officer that did the pat down (which looked pretty thorough on body cam) must carry so much guilt!
@kathrynwilliams6277I'm Australian and I wouldn't have heard of it before except I did see a true crime RUclips channel cover this case a while back, I can't remember which channel tho. However this one showed even more parts I think.
The cop told him 3 times to stop reaching but still didn't search him again. He even said I don't know what you are reaching for and didn't search and allowed him to continue with hands in front
Watching the UK police dropping the ball like this is giving me a whole new understanding of why the US police treats everyone like criminals during stops.
.. You can treat it like America. When a cop isn’t very professional in America you would call them a bad cop. But apparently if a cop isn’t very professional in the UK, people from other countries say “UK policing is a joke 😂”. What are you on exactly?
@MrSteliung that UK policing in fact is a joke. You find someone with bullets and you don't assume they're armed as well? It doesn't take Sherlock to figure that out. Sorry you got your feelings hurt, mate.
Arrested for suspicion of having bullets is weird enough then completely missing that he had a gun is complete incompetence that should be charged or at least result in him losing his career as a police officer
I think the male policeman was the lead figure and carries most responsibility. Its clear from the interaction between him and the female officer that she is a rookie and was following his lead. He is the one who did the search so ultimately carries responsibility. Having said that if the scumbag had not been carrying a gun illegally none of this would have happened.
yes, how the hell did they miss that gun in his clothes. why didn't they remove the coat from him. No excuse for this. I guess they learned the hard way.
It's the England police too. Like fam, all guns are illegal to possess for civilians, why wouldn't strip this fool down to his underwear before even putting him in the car? I'd have him sitting there butt booty ass naked if it wasn't illegal or whatever lol. Anyway, it always sucks when good people pay for the incompetence of others.
That chap had been white the cuffs would have been in the back and he would have been faced down in the pavement. You imported the third world, they don't assimilate and now you coddle them. FFS
Police aren’t expecting normal civilians to have firearms but as soon as they found the bullets they really should of done an extra thorough search. 😮. Rip
@JohnAnthony0857 a search would be a regular pat down. Thoroughly would be to remove atleast his jacket and shoes. Extra thorough would be removing all clothing down to the underwear! Yw 😊
if they search they suppose to search properly. they should expect anyone arrested being dangerous, if not for public safety, at least for police safety. this is plain ridiculous case.
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Unreal. Keep saying they are going to search him, keep telling him to keep his hands out of his pocket, they search him and yet - missed a holstered gun!? What!!!??
How are you going to stop and search somebody suspicious, find BULLETS in their possession and then NOT search them THOROUGHLY for a possible gun??? It just baffles me.
That's my first thought. Who the hell bring randomly unpack bullets in their pocket? There's must be a gun he carried.
They were trying to not be racist
@fonsusali One thing is not being racist and a different one is being stupid like in this case.
Idiots. They had more than a hint that he could be carrying a weapon, and then failed to search him properly? What were they thinking of?
This is what happens when cops dont have guns... they think that no one else has them either... Criminals will always have guns even if the "good guys" don't because they don't follow laws...
The lazy ass cop really arrested him for possession of bullets not expecting for the suspect to have a gun, I'm baffled by the stupidity
They were clearly going to give him a full/strip search. He was just very manipulative and thought out, storing his gun while in the car and evading detection. This isn't laziness it's just a deeply unfortunate situation
Me too. Chances are, if he had bullets, he had a gun. Even if they had to do a strip search, it should have been done!!!!!
@MG-uz5mr it's blatant fukin stupidity, stop making excuses for it. This cop rightfully earned his Darwin award
@rhainaweissehexe3899where did he have it concealed? It's pretty fu*king hard to hide an entire gun on your body. There has to be more to this as he either retrieved it in the police station OR he had help on the inside because even a routing pat-down will result in a gun discovered if it's there. It can only be hidden near the waist area so there's no way to miss that unless he had it strapped to his ankle. Was the cop so lazy to not even pat his legs down? You are searched even more extensively once you enter the station so I just don't understand how this could happen
@WestCoastTruckingCEO The article said a ft. long gun was stored in a holster under his coat. How did they miss that?
He was NOT "thoroughly searched".
Because British.
@JohnSmith-w1z7lthey’ll strip search children without an appropriate adult but still manage to miss stuff
REALLY???? WE WOULD NEVER OF GUESSED THAT
They didn't want to offend his culture
You get what you voted for. Stop voting liberal progressive BS
How incompetent can a cop be to search a suspect and not find a large handgun.
The cops in the UK are all incompetent.
'A foot long!' FFS. How on earth did they miss that?
holy moly absolute incompetence ... how tf do you not search the suspect thoroughly for a gun when there are bullets in his pocket ?????
This was UK. Being polite to the suspect is way more important
@BleedFromMyEarsBass you can be polite and professional at the same time
cop logic at its finest surely its these cops fault not doing the job to police standards
Goon are illegal in the UK
Yeah and if they allowed their officers (the good guys) to carry guns maybe that officer could have had a chance to defend himself form the criminal (the bad guy).
Did they think he was going to throw the bullets? Sheer incompetence.
😂 Throwing the bullets!😅
I am sorry, but the image of someone throwing bullets made me laugh. This a serious story, but you made me laugh.
There is no excuse for this. The officers who failed to search him properly should be sacked.
They even found bullets and then proceeded to not search him properly, the police are only good for going after people that mis-gender someone these days.
Or…
They could have left him alone minding his own business and none of this would have happened.
You don’t know how laws work.
@tylerskiss yeah they should have let him kill innocent member of the public.
@tylerskiss If you buy and carry an illegal gun around, you are not trying to mind your own business.
uk cop not even sure what bullets look like😂thats wild
I have seen at least 2 cases in US where perps sneak guns into custody and shoot/kill cops. Its down to arresting officers at scene to ensure everyone safety.
@THESTIG-cc7fq His point was how can you be a police officer and see something in his pocket and BELIEVES they are bullets. It doesn't take much to recognize a bullet.
@jeffro221 his point was to laugh at UK cops about not knowing what a bullet looks like.Mistakes were made and a cop was sadly killed.
@THESTIG-cc7fq Point taken.
Because the UK isn't overrun with guns and bullets. Unlike the USA. He saw what could be bullets, but if they turned out to be fake, he wouldn't know at that point, because UK cops aren't required to be ballistics experts. Why would they be?
Fancy sneering at the police of another country because they aren't used to gun violence.
He paid the price, so yay for you.
He wasn’t “thoroughly searched”, he was poorly searched.
Actually it is YOUR comment that deserves most votes/ thumbs up.
Never would this happen in USA 🇺🇸
@j.e.bennett2997 bullshit you ignorant hillbilly. Ricardo Alfonso Cerna killed himself in an interview with a gun he snuck in.
@j.e.bennett2997this and much worse happens in the us all the time.
@j.e.bennett2997 right I'm GOBSMACKED they handcuffed him in front. I thought that only happened in movies.
Not thoroughly searching a suspicious suspect is crazy but when they are constantly trying to get in they pockets and they still fail is a whole other level of incompetence
These invaders are a burden
THERE WAS NO REASON to decide this character WAS a 'suspect' let alone 'suspicious'!! This nazi copper is a perfect outcome of putting a self-important bully into a uniform!
I don't get it. The officer charges him with possession of a firearm, the next officer only mentions only bullets. Foot long! What?
My guess is they're so used to "searching" people (law abiding citizens) for their own little POWER TRIPS that they never thought they'd actually FIND anything.
@OhSoddit It's not called 'frisking' for nothing!
How the police find bullets on him but failed to find the gun is absolutely beyond me
Bro, that female officer said how many canisters 😂 ! Can't even recognise bullets ? Bloody joke. Police are too nice, the criminals are just getting away.
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They are Brits.
They are idiots
I instinctively said, "so where's the gun??" when they found the bullets.
You police in the UK need to not only carry arms..but always cuff anyone behind the back,..tight. Especially the immigration problem that the UK is having
How, I mean HOW IN THE HELL do you miss a “foot long gun” in a search??!!?!!
didn't want to offend him in the privates area?
@daveytandtheplacetobe7561
Gross Incompetence...
@markmower6507 or corruption?
How he managed to even get the gun out with 3 cops stood right next to him is beyond me.
Well tbh, it's the UK, the cops kinda suck there
I guess they trusted him. Such an innocent face he has & all ...
@Henksutin they are pigs everywhere and deserve to die!
@Lahandra1983 trusted a guy that has bullets?
@everythinggaming7938 I was being sarcastic, sorry
🤦🏿♂Arrested the guy for having bullets, but didn't do a proper search to see if he had a gun...
That’s what I’m saying!!
Exactly...its nonsense....probably all actors
British people have a right to be armed
@sureokk no, I disagree. No one *needs* to be walking around with firearms. They are designed to kill and the more ppl walking around them, the more people will be getting murdered. Only law enforcement need the right to be armed in the communities and public spaces. Hunters, trappers and outdoorsmen should have the right but not within city or town limits.
How tf did they miss a revolver, in a belt holster, ffs!? The man was wearing a long coat and he didn't check underneath the jacket??
Edit - and he kept putting his hands in his pockets too...I woulda been ultra suspicious of him after ordering him 3 times to keep his hands visible and away from pockets.
sounded like he was gonna confess in the car until the officer told him to stop talking
Right ? These cops are half responsible for what happened
@sad_vegan507 3/4 responsible, don't the cops also go by "the state" when imposing charges?
@sad_vegan507cops are responsible for a brown man killing them. Victim blaming ❤ 😅
Yes,I thought that too. His conversation was cut off.
I don't get how I can tell he may be autistic, but they couldn't. It's like the officer got angrier the more buddy had difficulties with their interactions. The lady cop stayed cool, but he was the one searching him.
How in the world do you miss a gun when searching someone when you find bullets on that person? This literally is the biggest fail I've ever seen. The bullets should have been a clue. Did they think he was just throwing them at people? It's sad.
A foot long gun as was stated her. Just plain stupid!!!
Look like they were more interested in finding drugs than a gun
Easy, they patted him down from the front and totally ignored his back. They're incompetent. After finding the bullets they should have done a thorough search in case he had a small single shot pistol hidden on him. He should have been strip searched frankly.
literally
Imagine being the arresting cop. Having to live with yourself after missing that enormous pistol
that's what she said...
Lol these cops are a joke
@TheFailedmessiah I dun think it would be all that funny, when they find out years later that it was all a SET UP just to get another cop killed... 😐
typical cuckolded european police
Hell at least in the US they nail you on the floor
Those arresting officers really dropped the ball on this one. How the fck do you miss a revolver in a common stash spot
Because in the UK its not a common stash spot. This is the UK not the wild west USA.
@timnewman6529 yeah , id say they probably dont even have a single thought that someone is carrying a gun
Even after finding the bullets too!!! 🙈
😂@timnewman6529
I mean they're the kind of cops who give you 4 chances to dig in your pockets while cuffed before they warn you that NEXT TIME your getting cuffed in the back lol. Don't get me wrong American cops act way too jumpy and aggressive but cuffing a guy behind the back saves you alot of trouble and risk.
How in the F crazy world can you bring a creep to jail and not search him.
yep, foolishness...
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have you seen their judge?
I can't believe that this thorough search failed to find a 12 inch gun
The incompetence of law enforcement in the UK is on a whole other level
You’ve obviously never heard about what we’ve got here across the pond…😢
@KnockOut242 just cuz bad stuff also happens everywhere else, doesn't take away from the severity of the UK cops' failure both in this case, and countless cases over the decades. He's absolutely correct in pointing out that there's SOOOOO MANY fuck-ups on behalf of the UK police. But this isn't a fucking competition, dude. Just cuz the USA has school shootings n shit, doesn't take away from the awful shit that happens over across the pond. Just in US citizen fashion, u r making this tragedy about "you" (the US, etc.)
I actually feel sorry for them, personally i don’t think it’s completely their fault it’s a massive lack of training.
Jason, what country do you live in?
@mariaharrison7228 Somalia
Not even a basic metal detector to check him before putting him in a cell?
Not even that, gun's aren't the easiest things to conceal to start with.
uk policing
Yeah, and when you enter to a library you have to go through a metal detector.
British cops can't think that far ahead.
@SecuR0M They don't think at all, just follow orders.
A paralyzed murderer never gets released from jail but the able ones get early release.
When police say “you’re not in trouble”, expect the complete opposite .
Not if you're truly innocent. Cops are good at their job and if you're in trouble it's becuz your comment in its self says that expect to be arrested. Innocent will eventually allaby
I’m so sorry for Matt’s loved ones. Matt asked if a thorough search was done and the officers said yes. They missed a gun!! I hold the police accountable for the shoddy arrest.
I’d never take someone’s word with people in jail.
@Mani-periodsame
UK police has become total shit in areas.
There too busy posing , getting tattoos and growing beards , and thats just the women ! . . . 😅😅😅
Hold the cops accountable? How about hold the killer accountable? Next youll have people saying its his parents fault for his actions too.
That first cop who arrested Louis is so incompetent. How the hell did he arrest him after finding bullets but not search him properly? Useless.
They’re not allowed too it’s racists.
@VincentJames3912 what an uneducated response
Was too busy scolding the guy to search him thoroughly, classic cop gota give their whole philosophy + life story becuase theyve never had a position of power anywhere else in life
It’s actually a very educated response, you are just programmed to avoid noticing reality lol
@BikingVikingHH How would it be racist to arrest someone if they had bullets in their pockets? The reality of the situation is that the cop is woeful at his job and cost the life of a good man.
Use your head and switch on ffs🤦
This interaction is a short summary of Britain's demise.
Speaking as a former cop, this is why we have multiple cops do searches so that there is less likelihood of something like this happening.
But can you just search anyone without probable cause?Was it the duffel bag or was like Mayor Guiliani "Stop and frisk?"
He shouldn’t have let them search his bag
@Uncle-Smart-Alec
The government here in Britain introduced a new anti terrorism law a few years back which allows them to stop and search anyone at anytime. Causing a lot of trouble with normal law abiding folk because they abuse this power.
This time they screwed up and paid the ultimate price. They should of rang armed back up and left it to the professionals.
I guess there is no such thing as a Terry Search in London. In the US this guy couldn't have even been stopped. Maybe if his civil rights weren't violated then dude would still be alive. I guess cops can be pigs no matter what country they're in
@GG-jw8ptoh so then they can just violated civil rights whenever they want. Just bc they don't like the way a guy looks the. They can search. NOT IN THE US. JUST SO EVERYONE IN THE US KNOWS. ITS CALLES A TERRY SEARCH AND IT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL. YOU MUST BE SUSPECTED OF A CRIME AND YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE TOLD WHAT CRIME BEFORE SUBMITTING TO A SEARCH OR EVEN HANDING OVER YOUR ID. KNOW YOUR RIGHTS STOP THESE TYRANTS. And acting suspicious is not a crime. They will tell you acting suspicious so they have to id you...NOPE!!! ask the what is the statute number for acting g suspicious that makes it a crime. AGAIN KNOW YOUR RIGHTS. Narcissict power hungry TYRANTS will take advantage of you at every chance.
I can’t believe it. How did they miss the gun? You even see the police officer checking his shoes but missed a foot long gun? It’s unbelievable. I would be more willing to believe he found the gun after he was searched which is crazy but it looked like he was so thoroughly checked! INSANE!
feels like there's more to this story, happened years ago and wasn't spoken about for ages, police used it as an excuse to fully violate the average civilian aswell .
Hidden under his armpit in a holster apparently.
You can see him reach for his gun during the transfer to the police station.
The cop was way too busy trying to bully and intimidate the autistic kid.
@lolsamftwthe cop was from my country NZ, he left for being a bully here too, RIP no one deserves that but he was in a couple situations here
It’s the officer who 1st searched him fault the others got shot. Once you found bullets he should of gave him a deep search there and then
yes. most people don't walk around with a pocket full of bullets, unless they have a gun to put them in.
@maxheadroom4659 exactly
Maybe I missed it, but was he handcuffed when he shot the officer? I know they like to cuff up in the front over in Europe vs. behind in the USA, and it would be easy to shoot even cuffed.
@chlorophil545 yh he was cuffed at the time
Most basic place to frisk someone just going into a club is under their arms.
Surprised this basic procedure wasn't followed.
Whether it was because he was cuffed from the front to begin with I really don't know but still gross incompetence.
Apparently he dislocated his shoulder in the van to put the gun in his hand during the journey.
The way you said burglaries in the area annoyed me so much and then the dang cop has said it the same way hahaha
A foot long gun is missed in a full body search wow.
Couldn't be *_that_* well hung.
The woman cop didn’t know she had a handful of bullets??? She’s saying canisters! Good grief ,some peeps need to go back to cop school & have another go 😅
They thought he was just happy to see him, passed it off as not a lethal weapon.
This is so horrendous. The police do such a dangerous and important job. Thank you for your work.
The cops totally blew it. Dude was beyond nervous from the first second. He was a ticking time bomb
The man also kept requesting to be put in the car, and in the cell, requested people leave the cell. He knew he was a danger to himself/others, and what may have ended in a suicide instead ended in a murder. The failure to find the gun in the search and the failure to heed the guy's clear warning signs... fumbled.
Incompetence at it's finest with serious consequences.
its finest. NOT it’s, you INCOMPETENT DOPE!!
Useless British police departments spend more time training cops to detect micro aggressions and hurtful tweets than actual criminal activity.
Well obviously he wasn't THOROUGHLY searched, only searched.
BARELY searched. INCOMPLETELY SEARCHED. Basically not searched. Of course this is not America where a search involves any small crevasse or wrinkle on the most microscopic part of your body. UK you do not expect as much concealment but I bet NOW they do.
Exactly. I cringed at hearing the word “thoroughly”. If it was thorough, they would’ve found the gun.
I think he put the gun on the seat of the car while he was in it? When he was searched he didn't have it on him..that's why they didn't find it?? I think he sat back down to wait for the paddy wagon and slipped it back into his pants?? MAYBE?
I think ‘frisked’ is the word.
doesn’t even merit term ‘search’
"THREE TIMES I've asked you" not to put your hands in your pockets, but he doesn't search his pockets or his trench coat to put himself, and his partner at ease? Then, finds bullets and his mind doesn't leap to the possibility of a gun in his possession? But, the officer says he's being arrested for "possession of a firearm", but none recovered even though he had "a foot long gun" hidden in his coat when he was searched? It's clear that the arresting officer was negligent in his duty to give a sufficient pat-down search of the suspect who was carrying bullets and drugs that would have found the foot-long gun he had under his coat. A foot-long gun. This murder could have been avoided if the arresting officer had done his job.
Guns are illegal in Britain, no?
@thrithgolden2748nothing to do with being legal.
They found bullets on him, but missed a foot long gun in his waist, ????😮
pure incompetence.
All the pigs should've got it, they've done too much fuckry & still doing it.
The arresting officer said that he was being arrested for possession of bullets, not for possession of a firearm. Regardless, the presence of bullets should have alerted him to the likelihood of a firearm on his person, and he should have searched him more thoroughly.
They’re so unfamiliar with ppl having guns that forget the creativity of criminals.
bro, it is not even creativity like he hid it somewhere unusual. Just the police failed to perform the search correctly / thoroughly, is just incompetence especially the multiple red flags of being nervous AF, reaching into pockets multiple times, carrying bullets should send alarm bells ringing. They still talk nice, london police (normal cops, not the train counter terrorist or specialist firearm officers) are ill equipped and also not wise to the criminal ways.
@bensumw I think by creative he meant them managing to get a gun in the UK in the first place
“What I believe to be bullets” either they’re bullets or not. Wtf. I get that guns aren’t as common in the UK as in the USA, but a cop not knowing what a bullet looks like is wild.
Armed police arrested a man in Manchester last year for carrying garden tools from his garden back to his house. In England many houses lack the space for yards so they have a piece of garden allotted to them in a designated gardening area. He was then detained for several hours because they couldn't find a lawyer to represent him.
He was clearly in possession of weapons of mass nourishment
@T@Tomsm8ut up dummy. Everyone wants to be rude and tough behind a phone screen. This has nothing to do with English. You can’t make fun of “my English” when I speak and study multiple Languages, so stop. You sound dumb. “Durrrr It’s called society” …then clearly you don’t even know what the word society means. Find someone else to argue with.. The dumb cop couldn’t identify or believe that they were actual bullets, probably because England doesn’t have a major gun problem.
@Tomsm8you proved my point once again. You have the brain capacity of a squirrel.
Wow, the cop that “searched” him must be feeling real bad now.
He was promoted
He did every single part of a search correctly, except the lack of removing his jacket. It's not like he was lazy in every way. He just missed one important step but thoroughly searched everything else. The guy also clearly was trying to draw attention anywhere but where he had the gun, hence going in his pockets over and over.
Maybe the cop thought it was a foot long dick.
You'd think he would be in trouble for his incompetence, but they didn't tell us, so maybe not.
@mr.sophistication3232 no seriously 😮how can you be promoted for incompetence
As a retired Police Officer, I simply cannot list the number of unbelievable errors and failures observed in this video. I’ll sum it up with he should have been relieved of that heavy overcoat THE MOMENT the decision was made to make the arrest.
Exactly. I'm no cop but shouldn't that be obvious?
Yes! Exactly! How come they didn’t make him to take his coat off? Like in the airport for control?? Accidents can be avoid
@magdapatriciaromerorimoldi5751 If you make him take off the coat himself he'll shoot you right through it. They needed to remove it but doing so safely isn't easy if the suspect decides to not cooperate.
100% agree
Maybe they should have just let the guy walk; like they probably let others walk that night as oh easily. They here picked on the wrong person, and they picked on the wrong person again. That is what here happens when you give a human being an exorbitant amount of power over another in that form. The overall arrogance of Police in general in the way they are allowed to harass people. You open what oh yourselves to that stuff happening in general as even before you get to the Police department. You are God then in that instance of the scene. Stripping the everyday citizen of their rights to walk here freely. Like some old German flick, "can I see your papers?" Cops always saying they are right doing whatever.
I am not surprised this case never got much attention. The authorities would problably prefer not to have the level of gross incompentence displayed by the police to be amplified.
Its just one man... in a sea of billions, this is how most cases should be reported... the problem is your used to so much bullshit getting unwarranted attention that normal reporting seems strange to you. The media has successfully brainwashed you... congratulations :)
And some would have said it was a racist attack Cant be having that can we
Not finding a foot long gun after finding bullets is even more absurd than a judge with a hair helmet. 🤔
It’s embarrassing that’s why you don’t hear much about it
They were too busy arresting cafe owners and people for not wearing a mask. But man with a gun.... 'no its fine'. This illustrates exactly what i thought at the time....They would go after normal citizens with zeal...but actual criminals.... they didnt want to break a nail.
The officer who searched him should also be held accountable, imagine finding bullets and then failing to realise he had a gun on him the whole time.
No metal detectors in the jail? No full pat down search and removal of articles of clothing? What the hell
its not america.
Yeah that's crazy
@geroutathat well that's for damn sure
Cause its the UK not USA
@ricktheredbrick98yeah the British are literally retarded from all the inbreeding.
A poorly executed search of a suspect by one officer led to the execution of another officer. That is as tragic and as equally avoidable as circumstances get. Very sad indeed.
It’s crazy seeing seconds of a bad decision cost so many people pain and suffering
The British Justice system is built on bad decisions and cop-outs, phony excuses and threats to the innocent.
Wow. And the female officer who was there while he being searched near the car even told the officer that his waistband needs to be searched thoroughly as well. So sad. RIP for the officer and prayers to his family.
Actually its even worse
was in the coat
Not the waistband
In the US
Many PDs would have taken his coat off during the search or before they even put him in the van
@GTMemes2 I can tell you I absolutely would have removed his coat prior to putting him in the car ,you can not thoroughly search someone with that type of outerwear on , it's bulky and in this day and age weapons are smaller and smaller -becoming much more easily to conceal even without a jacket like this.
he was handcuffed u cant take off a coat if u are handcuffed so they would have made him take off the coat while being uncuffed so he prob would have shot the patrolling officers
@Robzabest25 They were supposed to remove the coat before they handcuffed him. They can't have anything obstructing their view of the suspect's hands in case, like in this situation, the suspect will try to reach for something. Even while they're in handcuffs.
The brits on the web love to have a laugh at us american geezers about our guns in school innit but look at this m8 a GUN IN THE UK ARE YOU MAD BLOKE
This is a profoundly tragic story. May the sergeant rest in peace; he died in service to his nation.
god love him🍀💚🍀💚🍀💚💚💚💚💚💚
Finally a sensible comment 😊
Imagine being the officer who searched him and who will now be used as an example of what NOT to do from now until the end of time.
No, the police here are so bad they've been taken off criminal duties and now only do non-crimes.
Both the female and male officers are responsible for that poor man’s death.
The female cop will be promoted now. They are incompetent and a danger to their partners. The other one fired because white man.
The woman was too friendly with him, I bet now they double check the suspect.
brown licence
@original_yosemitesamwhat does that even mean?. Why do you ppl always have to bring up race?
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What does "you ppl" even mean? Who is "you ppl"? Speak your mind freely without fear.
Thats Uk police they are nice!
I have never seen two more incompetent officers than this pair, both should be sacked, and they are definitely responsible for the death of Matt, unbelievable.
You obviously haven't met many British police officers.
UK cops are the worst of the worst(wokest of the woke)
an absurd and avoidable tragedy.
So much to learn from this.. unfortunately someone had to lose their life. This should never have happened. Rest in peace and condolences to the family.🕊️
No one had to lose his life. Poor technique and incompetence were avoidable.
Letting these cockroaches into the country was what caused this. These pieces of crap need to be removed permanently.
It happens all the time in Germany, France and the rest of Europe, Canada, Australia AND in Africa nations where Christian villages get mowed down and slaughtered, almost on a weekly basis. Now it’s also happening in the US under Biden. I wonder how long the Western world is going to try to help them, make peace with them with; nothing we try to do for centuries has helped them. We even get blamed when we try to save them from their own dictators!! This seems to be a prelude to a coming World War.
The cop is a bozo he took the L like a champ
crazy people are the most dangerous...the cops suppose to know that.
Come on officers!!!!
The suspect is acting weird, has bullets in his pockets, and didn't do a deep search to find the firearm???
Nobody walks in the middle of the night carrying bullets in their pocket without having a gun! What a shame! RIP officer.
Have you not seen the video?
@kokozweebi see exactly what he described
@burneraccounthandle wow! I can also see what a wonder that we can see ;OO
@kokozweeb what is the point of your first comment?
@burneraccounthandle he is asking questions that are answered in the video
How did he not manage to find the gun
Ranges from Laziness to sheer incompetence
stupidity
And found bullets / thinking there wouldn't be a gun also 🤔
Because cops in the UK are dumb as rocks!
Because it was only "a foot long"??????? Were they looking for a RIFLE? You have bullets and no gun? I would immediately suspect the bullets were there for a reason. The cop who searched him murdered the cop that was killed.
I’m sold. Import 15 million more!
Lmfao
My deepest condolences to that officer who was killed. I don't understand why the searching officers did not remove his jacket and searched it as well.. poor job. So sad to know the murdered officer was just about 2 months away from enjoying his deserved retirement. May he R.I.P
No one cares
Why? They give a quick pay down before the van and a proper strip search while being admitted into custody
So true,RIP
Karma got him
It is safe to assume that constable who did the initial cursory search is living with extreme guilt, knowing he failed to do a thorough field search thus missing the foot long hand gun and that gun killed his fellow officer, injuring others and himself. The mere fact the suspect had ammunition was probable cause to search him further by removing his coat entirely. The in-cab cctv even show him digging continually in his back area, as he did the same while seated in the holding area. A two man arm/hand hold control of the suspect after removing the restraints would have been the safest action to do. Just an observation.
Compliancy kills. How they missed a loaded revolver is beyond me.
Complacency*
SO is SPELLING, DUMBA$$!!
He was extremely nervous from the get-go...
This unfortunate horrible murder could've been avoided if the police officers thoroughly patted him down before placing him in their unit.
My deepest sympathy to the officer's family.
I'm amazed they took the cuffs off, especially with how strange his behaviour was
@GamiGreenI don't think they did. It's hard to tell but it looks like right when the footage ends he's managed to pull the gun out and bring up to his hip and fire forwards while his hands are still cuffed behind his back. That's why the footage ends so abruptly at that point as that's when the shooting starts. He knew they were about to find the gun because the officer to our left is holding a metal detector. Ya never see the cuffs being taken off. 🤷♂
so was i the last time a cop pat me down lol, don't even know why, i told him too, told him i didn't know why but i just didnt expect to be checked for blades at a train station, and while i was happy to let em do it because i'm sick of the knife crimes, i was still nervous or anxious and had to stop a mild shake.. maybe that's just autism for you..
how about IF THEY DIDNT STOP HIM IN THE FIRST PLACE hmmmmmmmm burglary doesn't seem that serious now, does it? still didn't say he was guilty of robbing anyone or anything. Can replace material things, now you're fighting for your life for something that you don't know even happened...what made you decide to stop HIM??He wasnt do anything but walking late at night....
Agreed. Searches are one of the things police are told to take very seriously and do thoroughly otherwise outcomes like this can occur, tragically preventable. Especially after the discovery of ammunition.
Addicted to cannabis 😂 bro get real
Can’t believe they didn’t find the gun when they searched him
As they know this should never have been allowed to happen. Too heavy a price to pay for incompetence. RIP.
The officers that carried out the stop and search should face justice for their incompetence. Absolutely mind boggling how you can find bullets and not search for a weapon.
The female "cop" was too busy calling him darling and telling him he wasn't in any trouble
WTF?!?!
I guess we now know how the British lost the Revolutionary War?
The British ruled most of the world 🌎 and now are confined to small country taken over my immigrants. Good work 👏.
Man drew that gun like a scene from a western movie. Condolences
That’s how you know it was premeditated
Unbelievable. This shouldn't have happened.
It's like this came from a show or movie.
If bad vibes were a person.
15:57 Imagine being in court and having to keep a straight face with Santa judging you.
I’d be skeptical as to whether he’s faking the brain damage or not. These people are not to be trusted.
The cops should be ashamed of themselves for not searching him and for putting Mat in danger.
But guns are illegal in the UK why would someone have one? Lmao 🤣
Being illegal doesn’t mean you can’t get a gun .. DUH🙄
I don't think you can be ashamed if you're dead.
@holdy-foldy The arresting officers are not dead they should feel ashamed. Matt Rattna was shot he was the custody sergeant on duty. The villan was not properly searched before entering the station.
@ChinkyChan There is over 2 million illegal firearms in the UK 😮 It's easier and cheaper for kids to get a firearm than it is a PS5 😮
A very sad incident that could have been avoided if the police searched the suspect properly.
or if they didnt stop him and search him at all.
Female officers always so gentle and compassionate with immigrants.
@basedphantomlord4462 bro walking around with an illegal firearm and you say dont bother him
@michaelcook6483 they wouldnt even know that if they hadnt illegaly searched him. I mean, after they did illegaly search him they STILL didnt know....lol
English law enforcement is a joke to the rest of the world
@basedphantomlord4462 so you want english police to be less strict or more strict?
The apprehending officer was clearly under the assumption that the suspect was just going to throw bullets at passers by, as there had been an epidemic of bullet throwing in that part of South London. There was definitely no need to search him for a gun.
Ha ha Well said ha ha That's what I was thinking 😂
Are you nuts??
Such a tragic and preventable situation😢
This level of ignorance is mind-boggling. "Thoroughly searched", yet he had nearly a foot-long gun? Can't a single person in that station read body language? That criminal gave off more signals in a few seconds than you can even record. I have seen stupidity in England before but this is going to be hard to beat.
yea even when he refused to stand upright something was clearly off too... but its easy to judge when you're not there every day dealing with every sort of possible thing, nobody is perfect, it wasnt intentional as they put their own safety in jeopardy too
Those initial officers should be tried for murder. How f’n stupid and incompetent can you be
Female officers always so gentle and compassionate with immigrants.
It's easy to say that with hindsight, from the officer's perspective, the guy looked suspicious but didn't look very harmful, just my thoughts.
jross4093 That's a large overexaggeration bud
Why would he handcuff him in the front?!! 🙄
First case i have seen someone getting life in prison in UK, why when common civilians get murdered the killers only get 12 years at the most??
Not how it works.
yh and when police kill us they get fired and walk around scot free, jk fr country needs a revolution
@MandenTVexactly how it works 😢
@ChopSquadBaby@MandenTV is correct, that is not how it works. I recently had a look at the Sky News Courts youtube channel and some of the recent sentences they showed were:-
Gunman who shot dead a young girl jailed for at least 42 years.
Two 16 year olds killed a 16 year old with a knife because they thought he was somebody else. One was jailed for a minimum of 18 years and the other for a minimum of 16 years. The judge said it would have been higher if they had been 18 instead of 16.
A stepfather who killed a two year old child jailed for at least 28 years and the mother for 6.
Nigerian politician, wife and doctor jailed over "organ harvesting" plot, sentenced under Modern Slavery Act. He received 9 years, the wife 4.5 and the doctor 10 years.
16 year old killed a 14 year old with a knife and sentenced to at least 19 years. It would have been higher if he had been 17 and even more so if had been 18+
A murderer who killed a young girl 30 years ago was recently convicted. He was sentenced to at least 29 years. The judge said that if the murder had been more recent then he would be serving at least 37 years but the law was different back then when the offence took place.
A couple who killed their baby son were sentenced, with the father sentenced to at least 29 years and the mother 27 years.
Another couple who killed their baby. The father sentenced to at least 32 years and the mother to 10 years.
19 yo pleaded guilty to planning acts of terrorism and intending to join ISIS in Syria. He received a 1/3 reduction for pleading guilty and he was sentenced to at least 6 years.
They don’t get 12 years tho why u lying
OBVIOUSLY HE WAS NOT THOROUGHLY SEARCHED
Thank you
What would it take for police to have metal detecting wands like they do at airports? It won’t detect everything but itd make the search a little more thurough
This is the most unbelievable thing I have ever heard of, how in the sam hell did the cop searching this guy manage to miss, not only a gun, but a damn holster too. Wow.
How has this case not been covered by more channels?!? Immensely tragic to say the least! Thank you for bringing light to this officers death 💔
All the major media channels in the UK reported on it.
@temparalflux I've missed it somehow. I don't follow the news much. Most of the RUclipsrs I follow are about 50/50 UK and US though. Such a tragedy for a peace officer simply doing his job. The officer that did the pat down (which looked pretty thorough on body cam) must carry so much guilt!
@kathrynwilliams6277I'm Australian and I wouldn't have heard of it before except I did see a true crime RUclips channel cover this case a while back, I can't remember which channel tho. However this one showed even more parts I think.
It has been on the news a couple of time here in New Zealand since he was a kiwi. Such a shame this has happened.
It is potentially too contraversial? I wonder what the trial transcript would reveal.
The cop told him 3 times to stop reaching but still didn't search him again. He even said I don't know what you are reaching for and didn't search and allowed him to continue with hands in front
SMH that was sign he gave them multiple times by reaching in his pocket! That’s poor policing from the jump
I just don't understand how the police man didn't notice that he have a hiden gun 🤦♀️
Watching the UK police dropping the ball like this is giving me a whole new understanding of why the US police treats everyone like criminals during stops.
Exactly! They fear for their safety, and rightfully so.
@ingenewell5359 @nemosisthegreat well said
Only if You are black
Blacks in the USA are everywhere. Years ago, the Jim Crow laws restricted the blacks to live only in a certain area.
Yeah and americans still think the more guns the safer the country.. HOW?!??!??
Arrested for possession of bullets, but don't think he has a gun on him for those bullets?🤣🤣🤣 UK policing is a JOKE
.. You can treat it like America. When a cop isn’t very professional in America you would call them a bad cop. But apparently if a cop isn’t very professional in the UK, people from other countries say “UK policing is a joke 😂”. What are you on exactly?
@MrSteliung that UK policing in fact is a joke. You find someone with bullets and you don't assume they're armed as well? It doesn't take Sherlock to figure that out. Sorry you got your feelings hurt, mate.
@MrSteliungyour police don’t even carry guns. It’s like they can’t be trusted or something it’s strange.
I don't even recall them ASKING about the gun after they discovered the bullets!?! 🤷🏻
Policing is a joke all across the world
Arrested for suspicion of having bullets is weird enough then completely missing that he had a gun is complete incompetence that should be charged or at least result in him losing his career as a police officer
the cops who just didnt search him properly have blood on their hands
I think the male policeman was the lead figure and carries most responsibility. Its clear from the interaction between him and the female officer that she is a rookie and was following his lead. He is the one who did the search so ultimately carries responsibility. Having said that if the scumbag had not been carrying a gun illegally none of this would have happened.
That is true according to Ezekiel 33.
I'll play devil's advocate: This highlights the appalling levels of incompetency by the Police.
yes, how the hell did they miss that gun in his clothes. why didn't they remove the coat from him. No excuse for this. I guess they learned the hard way.
It's the England police too. Like fam, all guns are illegal to possess for civilians, why wouldn't strip this fool down to his underwear before even putting him in the car? I'd have him sitting there butt booty ass naked if it wasn't illegal or whatever lol.
Anyway, it always sucks when good people pay for the incompetence of others.
All because of 3g of a wild herb, bizarro world
@warwarneverchanges4937isn't cocaine and heroine from a wild plant too?
@nightshadedPRSguygood point. They should be legal too. God knows I love them. 😎✌🏼
"The incompetence of law enforcement in the UK is on a whole other level"
the more I watch these videos the more I have to agree.
I agree.
You could have just replied to the post you're quoting...
That chap had been white the cuffs would have been in the back and he would have been faced down in the pavement. You imported the third world, they don't assimilate and now you coddle them. FFS
The coppers are far too soy boy
Not necessary. Ironically, your comment is actually hella unnecessary compared to OP’s comment, lol.
Addicted to Cannabis??
Police aren’t expecting normal civilians to have firearms but as soon as they found the bullets they really should of done an extra thorough search. 😮. Rip
They should have called in armed police tbh. Hope police procedure changes to include this whenever a gun is involved.
What are the differences between a search, a thorough search, and an extra thorough search? 🙄
@JohnAnthony0857 a search would be a regular pat down. Thoroughly would be to remove atleast his jacket and shoes. Extra thorough would be removing all clothing down to the underwear! Yw 😊
Over here in the USA normal citizens are allowed to walk around with as many guns as they want. It's ridiculous.
if they search they suppose to search properly. they should expect anyone arrested being dangerous, if not for public safety, at least for police safety. this is plain ridiculous case.
$200/month? Those are rookie numbers.
Are you dense! It's the UK you massive doughnut
Thats what thought lol
@JohnOlding-j4f
And “addicted” to cannabis? Like they’re speaking from the 1980s.
Pounds
@Rundstedt1 I'm 35, yeah it can be addictive, quit 2 weeks ago after smoking it for 20 years, introduced to it firstly by my mum teaching me how to roll a spliff aged 12. First time I got high was by my big bro aged 13, my life revolved around weed 😂 I was spending minimum £100/week.
That cop looked at those “bullets” like they were some kinda alien technology 😂
I am shocked and extend my condolences to friends and family of the officer.
The way the first officer was acting so serious and professional you'd think..........
They haven't adapted to diversity yet.
@teastrainer3604 they didn't adapt when they were out genociding whole continents?
BLM
Professionalism is learned and acquired, intuition is not...
The cops in the UK always act professional. No need to suggest that racism was a factor here.
Finding bullets would be a reason for a thorough search right then and there, shoes off, jacket off, etc… terrible policing
The gun he was concealing was about a foot long. Amazing....absolutely amazing
Unreal. Keep saying they are going to search him, keep telling him to keep his hands out of his pocket,
they search him and yet - missed a holstered gun!? What!!!??
The officers who failed to search him must stand on trial.
leave him alone
Handcuffed a man with bullets in front and never thoroughly
Searched him. Straight ignorance.