I think the reason they removed the flash is they ran out of room for it. The flash needs a massive capacitor. In the a6300 (and presumably the a6400 as well), that capacitor is located right beside the battery compartment.
I just got my a6600 and I love it! A perfect companion to my a7III, no question! Yes, it was pricey, but it will last several years and provides solutions to many issues I was facing. I also picked up the 10-18mm f4 with OSS, both destine for my gimbal full time. Having IBIS, plus OSS and on a gimbal, its light, easy to use and will run all day... a solid solution for Run & Gun! The colours and Picture Profiles will match the a7III and that’s great as well. Packing gear for a road trip or flight is always difficult, so having a small APSC camera like this, and still being about to use my FF lenses, but gain more reach, is a bonus. And the benefit of only needing one style of battery and charger, again, saves space. This camera has active tracking AF for video, eye AF in video, it’s a solid camera that is also great to throw in a bag with the 16-35mm f4 and I can enjoy it on the street. It checked so many valuable boxes for me, I had to make the call and get it. No regrets for the extra cost.
It was a no brainer once the price dropped. I was about to order the A6400 but really wanted the A6600 then the price dropped and the choice was easy. I ordered mine from Adorama with a ton of extra accessories including a flash for it plus a camera bag, plus a memory card plus much more. I can't wait to get it this coming Monday!!!!!
Hey Arthur, I enjoy your reviews. Purchased a new a6600 last month, a Nice improvement over the a6500 I had been using. One thing you didn't mention is the decreased RAW buffer compared to the a6500. I believe it's 46 images for the a6600 vs. 107 for the a6500! A big difference for action/sports shooters. I can't come up with a reason for this reduction.
Seldom mentioned: I like the placement of the SD Card in this camera. IMO, it is easier to insert and remove that the placement of the SD card on previous Sony APSC cameras.
I think you made a great choice Arthur. I'm loving my a6400 but I'm also buying an a6600 too with the 16-55mm 2.8 and use both cameras. Video is my money maker as well as music production and coming from my old a6300 these cameras are major upgrades because of no overheating, better battery life, HLG (which is so easy to grade), no record time limit, better autofocus and continued beautiful video image quality! You have been and continue to be my APS-C resource guy. Thanks!
Just pulled the trigger on tus camera after seeing it for $1198. Coming from an a6000, boy does the a6600 feel better built and more... professional. I wasn’t crazy excited about receiving it like I would anything “new” but after playing with it, I’m really excited to have it.
Worth noting: this camera has an ISO 50 capability which helps when shooting wide open with an f/1.4 lens. The A6xxx cameras have a fastest shutter speed of 1/4000 second which is often too slow when using the wide aperture lens, such as f/1.4, wide open for outdoor portraits. The A6600 still retains the 1/4000 shutter speed but, the ISO 50 capability allows me to shoot at 1/4000 second while getting the same exposure as 1/8000 using ISO 100...
Enjoy your purchase! I was one of the "lucky ones" that bought the A6300 a couple of months before they released the 6500. Haven't been tempted by the models that followed; 6400, 6600 an 6100. None of them offered enough of an upgrade to warrant the ever more expensive cameras.
Bro, you hit the nail ON THE HEAD with the way the public received the A6600. I found the exact same thing - people raved about the A6500, but weren't very excited about the A6600's features... Even despite significant improvements. I concluded that the only thing it really came down to was that people were spoiled with cutting-edge technology. They didn't necessarily think that the A6600 matched up to price and times. The overall impression which was then created towards it online was almost negative, in a way. All you need to do is step back, like you did, and see the whole picture. The A6600 is still a ridiculously good camera, and most people will not be disappointed if they choose to buy it. Cheers bro, in conjunction with a great review, you've gained another subscriber.
@@Lucas-LeFever Lucas, I can tell you about the 56mm: it's fantastic! Super sharp with good autofocus. In all comparisons I've already watched here on youtube no lens was sharper than it for Sony APS-C E-mount. You can see my photos from it on my IG account: @paulonunes181
Lucas LeFever I just got the 56mm a couple days ago and haven't really tested it much but the 16&30mm lenses are super sharp. I'm sure the 56mm won't disappoint. I'm off this week from work so I'll definitely be testing it out.
Honestly your opinion on the difference between these two cameras is the only one I care about! I've been in the market for one of these or the 6400 and have been waiting for your verdict!!
30 November 2022 : I bought the A6600 with the 70-350 mm G lens. The A6600 can do ISO 50 which is a great thing, I use ISO very often on my Alpha 7iii too. it is an expensive combo but i am happy like a child. 56 Year old 555
Thanks so much for all your honest reviews of the sony a6000 range. It makes it so much easier deciding what to purchase. I'm going with the sony a6400!
I believe people don't appreciate it as much is because of what you mentioned but also Sony calls it a 'flagship' camera. When I think of a flagship camera, I think of the Canon 7D, nikon D500, fujifilm xt3 - rugged, weather sealed, dual card slots, etc. This camera just isn't professional like those. Don't get me wrong, it's a great camera and I'd stil pick it over those, I just wish it was a true 'flagship' camera.
I’m a new convert to the aps-c Sony line and for me the a6400 was a good solid move. I’m using that with my Panasonic great. The a6600 was a bit steep considering I didn’t have any lenses to go with it. Picked up the sigma 16 and 30 and have been really happy with them.
Why it's better than the 6400? 1) IBIS 5 point stabilization and more stabilization than the 6400 2) Better battery lasts 2x longer What everyone complains about? 1) rolling shutter when recording video 2) overpriced. Sony New Zealand sells it for NZ$3,499 with kit lens. 3) SD 1 card reader speed. Really... it's 2020. Even by 2019 standards, SD 1 is super slow. But if you're looking to get your first mirrorless camera like me, which performs MUCH BETTER than the iPhone Pro 11 and Samsung Galaxy S10+, and want a camera that you'll be happy with for the next 10 years, the a6600 is the best camera to go with.
I'm in tears when I watch this camera's reviews because I've been saving up for it lol Currently 600.00 dollars short from getting it and then I'll have to save up for the lens lol Can't wait to get it.. Nice video .. Keep up the good work
Now that they dropped the price, the camera is a good value, especially if you already have e-mount lenses. The bigger grip and eye autofocus make it a joy to use as a street camera and for travel. Add in a few Sigma primes that are made better with the included IBIS and you have a great kit for weddings and lower light events. I like the ergonomics of the grip much better than the Fuji XT3. It's perfect for run and gun. Compared to my A6300, I get more pictures in focus using the same lenses with the eye autofocus system and the touch screen for selecting subjects. The camera includes a wireless flash trigger which works great with an external flash. Overall, a nice package.
I own the 6000 for the last 4 years very pleased with it. I have just bought 6400 for my wife as she shoots pics exclusively the 6400 represents excellent value for money over 6600
maybe, i had the a6000 and never used the flash, mostly because pretty much every lens i had for it casted a horrible shadow across my images if i ever used flash, won't be missed by me
I wonder if they also did it to rearrange some components to allow for the headphone jack to be put in. Maybe the extra space helps with thermal management too.
Exactly. Weather Sealed + Orintende on proffesional market. No one ever would use this horible Flash on any 1000€ + Camera. So ppl would prefer weather sealed body and would also buy for 150€ an extra Flash.
@Mr Tech the A6xxx Series Flash was not Sealed. So end of story here. And I also told, that the a6600 was orientented on the more proffesional market. So no one cares about this Flash Light if you pay 1000€+ for A body. The flash light in a6xxx series was always crap. Sure can be of a use, for a hobby person. But this would reather buy a6400/6500/6100 and get better Lenses. So Sony did everything right about the Camera.
Just got the A6400 with 18-105 for $1300 including extra FW50. Prices are higher in Europe so I consider that a good black Friday deal. A6600 body only was more expensive so no regrets.
If I'd like to upgrade my a6000 to take videos, my choice would be definitely the a6400. And for it's price difference I can purchase an APSC lens with OSS ;)
I just got one! Someone located in southern California is selling brand new a6600s on OfferUp for $1080 out the door (no sales tax). I bought one and it turned out to be totally legit and the manufacturer's warranty was still valid for a whole year. If you're in that area, it's such a good deal to consider. Just search a6600 on OfferUp in Orange County, CA.
I bought the A6100 with kit lens on sale for 748 shipped with extras to my door. The sale price pushed me over from buying the A6400 and not going to get an A6600 at that price. Just wanted the small APSC camera with flip screen and good 4K. Easily fits in my backpack for outdoors content. Might spend the savings on a sigma 16mm F1.4 for low light.
Love your sincerity about the Camera flash. I am not professional and I use a lot of built-in flash, I hate to carry heavy flash, put in on and take off. The shoes flash is important too, cause if the built-in flash is dead, I can use external flash if I have too instead of buying a new camera. When there is a new camera, the update must be value for it new update not to remove it's feature. Thank you so much for the clarity of this A6600 vs. A6400.
@Valerio Coronella Sony ibis is bad yes, but it's much better than nothing.,.,.,.,., I hope you are right & eyeAF in video will come to a6100/a6400 via firmware update
I really like the A6400 but. I am in love with my A6600... I use it in conjunction with my A7iii and using the same batteries makes things a lot easier... I got the A6600 at a very good price...
Arthur, any chance you could review the new 70-350 apsc lens? Im wondering if the 16-55 + 70-350 is a good combo to cover a wide range. Also interested how it compares to the 18-135. Thanks :)
CurrentPeakRC I have this lens, I mean 70-350G and it’s awesome 😎 Love that range, sharpness is good enough and the portability is great. Highly recommended.
I was - and am - bitterly disappointed when Sony announced this camera. I was hoping for a major upgrade in resolution. I want the IBIS. I don't do video. And I want an A6700R resolution monster. I am staying with APS-C. Smaller, lighter, and good or great lenses much cheaper. I love my A6500 and see no where near enough reason to "upgrade" to the A6600.
Bob in Oregon way more mp on an aps-c? Are you not afraid to have significant noise issues? Do not believe that a lot more mp on the aps-c sensor will work out effectively. Go for fullframe, I guess
@@stefanterbekke8506Stefan - thanks for your comments. But I do very little low light shooting, and when I do noise is not much of an issue. Most of my shooting is landscapes in daylight. Full frame is a great way to spend a *lot* more money, especially for glass, and for me with very small benefit. I am sticking with APS-C.
@@stefanterbekke8506 More noise from higher MP is a horribly overblown misconception. Yes, sometimes, depending on the sensor technology and your specific shooting situation, a higher MP count can cause a little more overall noise. But in the vast majority of shooting situation the overall signal to noise ratio ends up being about the same and the higher MP sensor just retains more detail. Look at comparison images between the A7s II and the D810, until you go past ISO6400 they have basically the same noise with the D810 retaining a ton more detail. Even at 25600 sure the D810 has more noise but it also has more detail and you could sacrifice a little bit of that detail to noise reduction. Basically the same situation with modern cameras too if you look at the A7III vs A7rIV or the a6600 vs the M6 II.
The only dealbreaker is the too old sensor -- next new 6X00 APS from Sony will probably have the new sensor (already on the market sold to other brands) immediately making both 6400 and 6600 obsolete. 6 months? So, no reason to waste money now. It's better to wait a bit.
You're assuming a lot that Sony will quickly follow up its 6400 / 6600 release with another set of aps-c cameras. They took 3 years between the 6500 and the 6600.
@@RageCage1701 There was 6400 and then 6100 + 6600. Quite possibly we could see 6400 replacement first hopefully during the next year. Sony needs to do something with that unacceptable and non-competitive rolling shutter. This is the only reason stopping me from buying 6400 or 6600 at this particular moment in time. The sensor is just unacceptably outdated and Sony already has the new one used in direct competitor camera. With renewed interest by Sony to APS-C line, relese of new E lenses for it, and aggressive new competition in the category I hope we'll see some progress faster.
I will be getting one of these to replace one of my 6300's, but I'm going to wait for the price to drop some. It doesn't make much sense at $1,400. If it dropped below $1,000, I think that would be enough for me to pick one up.
The battery, IBIS, and grip alone make it worth $500.. I enjoyed the one I tested. Loved shooting 17 short clips at a live music performance and having 68% of the Z battery left in an a6xxx
Gonna keep my A6500. The eye focus is still adequate for A6500, and battery I share with my old NEX cameras. I don't shoot much vids but A6500 vids are same quality as A6400, and face AF works fine.
For me IBIS is more important than EAF on cats and dogs. Since I don't vlog and don't take selfies the flipup screen is no improvement at all. I was hoping for a better EVF placed on the top of the camera. Since Sony mean that all APS-C cameras shall have the stupid flipup screen I will never get the APS-C camera I want. I like the smaller size of APS-C lenses, the body don't need to be in rangfinder style. The better grip is nice.
I recently ditched the 6500 for the 6600, no brainer! Only use it for video, eye and face af with monitor was the clincher. I have A73 for main video. Never taken a pic with a Sony, I have Canon for that.
keeping my Sony a6400 now and future. in my opinion i think it just wasting money for keep upgrading your cameras. what you're really need is just a good lens. btw: good review on Sony A6600
Dear Arthur, as a professional in camera may you share a little about continuous tracking between 18-105 and 16-55 on A6400? How does 18-105 team up with A6400 nowadays? Thank you very much.
Your channel is so informative, definitely tuning in to all your Sony a6 thousand ish video series before making my first camera purchase next year. I'm looking for my first entry-level (almost mid-range) camera
Best Review! 4:47 - I know most reviewers have expressed unenthusiastic about the IBIS, but for me, the IBIS saves me so much time in the editing room. Without it, you might be having to fix the minor shakes in editing (with warp stabilizer). I see you filmed this video with the a6400 and a gimbal, but I can still see some shakiness. 7:40 - I think they may have done that intentionally. By reserving this feature for the a6600 they gave said model an advantage over the others. For me, the eye-tracking in video mode was worth the couple hundred bucks. 8:22 - The headphone jack is a big plus for me, but not at all a deal-breaker. The only reason is that my monitor has a headphone jack. (I couldn't see the screen on the a6500 in the light, especially when filming in 4k and even not in 4k. So I needed a monitor so I wouldn't have to wait until I got into the editing room to discover my shots slightly out of focus. 11:00 - I am a videographer and the unlimited recording is why upgraded from my a6500. 11:14 - I totally agree with you, they overpriced it. They really should mark it down. A lower price would definitely earn the title Flagship.
Rakuten points back from buying from Adorama through their portal = 1% cash back and 15% pts back today. Got my a6600 ordered for 1331(tax)-179 pts back = abouts 1152 out the door. So... while I agree that most days the a6400 is a better buy... as Vin Diesel says "Not today..."
Hey Arthur. Good review. I don't think you wasted you money. I do have a question. Today the a6600 is $200 off and the 16 to 55 is $100 off. Do those price points make sense or is the a7iii at $1550 still a better buy?
Thanks!! I am wanting to upgrade from the 6300 and wanted to see if the jump to the 6600 was worth the money. I think I may go with the 6400 for now and see what Sony has in a few years.
Despite the different sized sensor, would be cool to see a comparison between this and the Sigma FP as they are the two most compact/most powerful mirrorless cameras currently!
I'm still rocking sony a6300 and so far sony hasn't come up yet with anything that would made me want to upgrade. For things like grip and battery life there is plenty of workarounds. Autofocus on 6300 still works for me. Until there will be a leap in terms of video I'm good where I am :)
It’s 12/09/19 and the price is 1199$ on amazon and other websites, it IS perfect price for this camera, have it for couple days and so happy that I didn’t purchase 6400 but I agree that initial 1400$ price is a bit high.
I'm seriously confused about negative opinions of Sony IBIS. My comments about it all relate to my A6500 but are equally relevant to the A6600. Keep in mind that I don't shoot video. I recently switched from my A77ii (and fallback A77) A-mount APS-C camera, with a heap of legacy A-mount lenses, and chose the A6500 (and both the LA-EA3 and LA-EA4 converters). I chose the A6500 over the A6400 because of IBIS, despite some nice features in the A6400. While the A6600 added several features I wanted, being an amateur without substantial income, the price of the A6600 was just too high for me. By the way, I have to say that the LA-EA4 performs far better than I had expected on SOME of my lenses, with the A6500. Examples which work nicely and where the A6500 IBIS really makes a big difference include the SAL 100/2.8 1:1 Macro, Minolta 50/1.4, Minolta 135/2.8 and Tamron 70-200/2.8 (IF) Macro. However, those A-mount lenses which AF properly with the A6500 when using the LA-EA3, have SUBSTANTIALLY faster AF and are STEADIER on the A6500 than on the A77ii. Examples of this include my SAL 70-400 G SSM II, and my Sigma 85/1.4. Hand-holding the 70-400 G2, at an effective focal length of 600mm, is a very doable option on the A6500. So, in short, IBIS works well for me on the A6500, and would be a strong reason for someone like me, with some excellent heavy A-mount glass, to choose the A6600 over the A6400.
There is also a second custom position on the mode dial and a biggie is that the SD card no longer is placed near the battery door hinge which is a massive improvement .. Ibelieve the flash was removed to improve weather resistance and looking at my A6400 with the flash popped up I can see the logic in that
As someone who shoots with heavy Soviet lenses, a bigger grip and IBIS is a night and day difference. I don't really care about AF since my lenses don't have AF.
I couldn't wait until the a6600 started shipping and bought the a6400. The only things I miss are the better grip/battery and the stabilizer, but I agree with Arthur that paying U$ 500.00 for it is a little salty...
Very informative video as always 👍🏼 Imho the price could be justified if there were control dials and a joystick like in an A7 III and maybe a newer sensor. Then it would be a small and low weight alternative to FF.
I'm glad I opted for the 6400 a few weeks back, Sony's ibis isn't very good and I really don't mind popping in a fresh battery every so often. If I am going to be shooting a timelapse I can easily wire up a power bank :) you can clip them into the cage easily
@Why Me Yes, I am not into video but for photography the IBIS in a6500 make a difference. I can handhold the camera and take pictures at 1/5 of a second.
Do you think the ibis on the a6600 would make a big difference when using Sony's new 16-50 f2.8 lens for photos and video or do you think the a6400 would be fine? I would be using the camera when traveling.
Idk. My a6000 works pretty good. Battery life isn’t an issue for me as I just take pictures of birds. I don’t see how this camera could be worth the upgrade. I’m just gunna wait for the 6700 and buy that one.
Hi dude, I'm buying a new camera for vlogging What should I go with A6600 with Sigma 16mm and 30mm Or A6400 with Sony 10-18 and Sony 35mm Please do answer
Someone located in southern California is selling brand new a6600s on OfferUp for $1080 out the door (no sales tax). I bought one and it turned out to be totally legit and the manufacturer's warranty was still valid for a whole year. If you're in that area, it's such a good deal and just something to consider.
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I think the reason they removed the flash is they ran out of room for it.
The flash needs a massive capacitor. In the a6300 (and presumably the a6400 as well), that capacitor is located right beside the battery compartment.
I just got my a6600 and I love it! A perfect companion to my a7III, no question! Yes, it was pricey, but it will last several years and provides solutions to many issues I was facing. I also picked up the 10-18mm f4 with OSS, both destine for my gimbal full time. Having IBIS, plus OSS and on a gimbal, its light, easy to use and will run all day... a solid solution for Run & Gun! The colours and Picture Profiles will match the a7III and that’s great as well.
Packing gear for a road trip or flight is always difficult, so having a small APSC camera like this, and still being about to use my FF lenses, but gain more reach, is a bonus. And the benefit of only needing one style of battery and charger, again, saves space. This camera has active tracking AF for video, eye AF in video, it’s a solid camera that is also great to throw in a bag with the 16-35mm f4 and I can enjoy it on the street. It checked so many valuable boxes for me, I had to make the call and get it. No regrets for the extra cost.
What gimbal you using?
Price just dropped because of your video. Looking more attractive. Hmm
I was about to say at 1199 I think that is a much better price?
Word the price drop and 100$ rebate signing up for amazon prime card. I decided to go for it. a6600 for $1098 is not bad !
The 16-55mm F2.8 G dropped $100 as well. I believe you get 5% off with the Amazon Prime card.
Gregg yea but that’s still a bit to pricey for me lol
Chocobo It is again, 6/17, for another 11 days!!!
It was a no brainer once the price dropped. I was about to order the A6400 but really wanted the A6600 then the price dropped and the choice was easy. I ordered mine from Adorama with a ton of extra accessories including a flash for it plus a camera bag, plus a memory card plus much more. I can't wait to get it this coming Monday!!!!!
Hey Arthur, I enjoy your reviews. Purchased a new a6600 last month, a Nice improvement over the a6500 I had been using. One thing you didn't mention is the decreased RAW buffer compared to the a6500. I believe it's 46 images for the a6600 vs. 107 for the a6500! A big difference for action/sports shooters. I can't come up with a reason for this reduction.
Seldom mentioned: I like the placement of the SD Card in this camera. IMO, it is easier to insert and remove that the placement of the SD card on previous Sony APSC cameras.
I think you made a great choice Arthur. I'm loving my a6400 but I'm also buying an a6600 too with the 16-55mm 2.8 and use both cameras. Video is my money maker as well as music production and coming from my old a6300 these cameras are major upgrades because of no overheating, better battery life, HLG (which is so easy to grade), no record time limit, better autofocus and continued beautiful video image quality! You have been and continue to be my APS-C resource guy. Thanks!
Just pulled the trigger on tus camera after seeing it for $1198. Coming from an a6000, boy does the a6600 feel better built and more... professional. I wasn’t crazy excited about receiving it like I would anything “new” but after playing with it, I’m really excited to have it.
I'm looking to do the same, how would you say you like it now ?
Worth noting: this camera has an ISO 50 capability which helps when shooting wide open with an f/1.4 lens. The A6xxx cameras have a fastest shutter speed of 1/4000 second which is often too slow when using the wide aperture lens, such as f/1.4, wide open for outdoor portraits. The A6600 still retains the 1/4000 shutter speed but, the ISO 50 capability allows me to shoot at 1/4000 second while getting the same exposure as 1/8000 using ISO 100...
That's good to know....!
Enjoy your purchase! I was one of the "lucky ones" that bought the A6300 a couple of months before they released the 6500. Haven't been tempted by the models that followed; 6400, 6600 an 6100. None of them offered enough of an upgrade to warrant the ever more expensive cameras.
forget about the price for a minute .. this is an awesome camera..
So close to full frame
Bro, you hit the nail ON THE HEAD with the way the public received the A6600. I found the exact same thing - people raved about the A6500, but weren't very excited about the A6600's features... Even despite significant improvements. I concluded that the only thing it really came down to was that people were spoiled with cutting-edge technology. They didn't necessarily think that the A6600 matched up to price and times. The overall impression which was then created towards it online was almost negative, in a way. All you need to do is step back, like you did, and see the whole picture. The A6600 is still a ridiculously good camera, and most people will not be disappointed if they choose to buy it. Cheers bro, in conjunction with a great review, you've gained another subscriber.
9:16 agree on the flash. It's so useful, I really dislike its omission on higher end cameras.
I got the a6600 a couple days ago. Loving it so far. I have the Sigma 16,30,56mm trio and the Sony 85mm 1.8
I have the same combination. Love them too. Realtime Eye AF in videos is amazing
I came from Nikon DSLR and got a 6400 and I'm loving it! Bought the superb 56mm from Sigma, a 12mm and 8mm fisheye from Rokinon, very satisfied!
Just got the A6600 and 16mm Sigma! Can't wait to test it all! How do you like the 30mm and 56mm?
@@Lucas-LeFever Lucas, I can tell you about the 56mm: it's fantastic! Super sharp with good autofocus. In all comparisons I've already watched here on youtube no lens was sharper than it for Sony APS-C E-mount. You can see my photos from it on my IG account: @paulonunes181
Lucas LeFever I just got the 56mm a couple days ago and haven't really tested it much but the 16&30mm lenses are super sharp. I'm sure the 56mm won't disappoint. I'm off this week from work so I'll definitely be testing it out.
the A6600 is ON SALE TODAY for $200 OFF! bhpho.to/30KGLi4
I love how it looks and let see is it worth for spend more $500 over a6400
WATCH ME CAMBODIA on sale now for $200 cheaper. That’s the price I was looking for.
Honestly your opinion on the difference between these two cameras is the only one I care about! I've been in the market for one of these or the 6400 and have been waiting for your verdict!!
finally. this is what I'm waiting for...
this camera just coming to Indonesia, and I will have it one soon, still in purchase order que..
one reason to choose this camera rather than A7III is tilting screen for self vlogging
30 November 2022 : I bought the A6600 with the 70-350 mm G lens. The A6600 can do ISO 50 which is a great thing, I use ISO very often on my Alpha 7iii too. it is an expensive combo but i am happy like a child. 56 Year old 555
Thanks so much for all your honest reviews of the sony a6000 range. It makes it so much easier deciding what to purchase. I'm going with the sony a6400!
I believe people don't appreciate it as much is because of what you mentioned but also Sony calls it a 'flagship' camera. When I think of a flagship camera, I think of the Canon 7D, nikon D500, fujifilm xt3 - rugged, weather sealed, dual card slots, etc. This camera just isn't professional like those.
Don't get me wrong, it's a great camera and I'd stil pick it over those, I just wish it was a true 'flagship' camera.
I finally sold my A6400 last week, and bought new A6600.
Love both of them and the main reason of changing is the stabilizer in A6600
Just picked up an A6600 body for $680 on eBay. Also got the Sony 18-135mm for $365. Looking forward to that combo.
I’m a new convert to the aps-c Sony line and for me the a6400 was a good solid move. I’m using that with my Panasonic great. The a6600 was a bit steep considering I didn’t have any lenses to go with it. Picked up the sigma 16 and 30 and have been really happy with them.
Why it's better than the 6400?
1) IBIS 5 point stabilization and more stabilization than the 6400
2) Better battery lasts 2x longer
What everyone complains about?
1) rolling shutter when recording video
2) overpriced. Sony New Zealand sells it for NZ$3,499 with kit lens.
3) SD 1 card reader speed. Really... it's 2020. Even by 2019 standards, SD 1 is super slow.
But if you're looking to get your first mirrorless camera like me, which performs MUCH BETTER than the iPhone Pro 11 and Samsung Galaxy S10+, and want a camera that you'll be happy with for the next 10 years, the a6600 is the best camera to go with.
I'm in tears when I watch this camera's reviews because I've been saving up for it lol Currently 600.00 dollars short from getting it and then I'll have to save up for the lens lol Can't wait to get it.. Nice video .. Keep up the good work
Just picked up a A6600 on sale. Adorama. 1,198 US. Great deal! (Camera only) Also comes with many accessory.
Now that they dropped the price, the camera is a good value, especially if you already have e-mount lenses. The bigger grip and eye autofocus make it a joy to use as a street camera and for travel. Add in a few Sigma primes that are made better with the included IBIS and you have a great kit for weddings and lower light events. I like the ergonomics of the grip much better than the Fuji XT3. It's perfect for run and gun. Compared to my A6300, I get more pictures in focus using the same lenses with the eye autofocus system and the touch screen for selecting subjects. The camera includes a wireless flash trigger which works great with an external flash. Overall, a nice package.
I have a6400 and trust me if you put on some oss g lenses, and the stabilization is just great.
Agreed.
I bought a cage for my A6400 and that fixes the grip problem... plus then it's easier to mount a gimble.
The pop up flash on the A6500 is so underrated.
I own the 6000 for the last 4 years very pleased with it. I have just bought 6400 for my wife as she shoots pics exclusively the 6400 represents excellent value for money over 6600
I think they removed the flash in order to make it more weather sealed
maybe, i had the a6000 and never used the flash, mostly because pretty much every lens i had for it casted a horrible shadow across my images if i ever used flash, won't be missed by me
I wonder if they also did it to rearrange some components to allow for the headphone jack to be put in. Maybe the extra space helps with thermal management too.
I used m8 e CONSTANTLY on my a6300, personally.
Exactly. Weather Sealed + Orintende on proffesional market. No one ever would use this horible Flash on any 1000€ + Camera. So ppl would prefer weather sealed body and would also buy for 150€ an extra Flash.
@Mr Tech the A6xxx Series Flash was not Sealed. So end of story here. And I also told, that the a6600 was orientented on the more proffesional market. So no one cares about this Flash Light if you pay 1000€+ for A body. The flash light in a6xxx series was always crap. Sure can be of a use, for a hobby person. But this would reather buy a6400/6500/6100 and get better Lenses.
So Sony did everything right about the Camera.
Just got the A6400 with 18-105 for $1300 including extra FW50. Prices are higher in Europe so I consider that a good black Friday deal. A6600 body only was more expensive so no regrets.
If I'd like to upgrade my a6000 to take videos, my choice would be definitely the a6400.
And for it's price difference I can purchase an APSC lens with OSS ;)
True, but likely with a slightly slower maximum F-stop
Jimpression yes I just upgraded to 6400 I love it !
I got this camera with 16-55 f2.8 and 85 1.8 mm just super perfect combo for photo/ video ... cover all my needs
Finally! I was hopping to see a new video! Thanks
I just got one! Someone located in southern California is selling brand new a6600s on OfferUp for $1080 out the door (no sales tax). I bought one and it turned out to be totally legit and the manufacturer's warranty was still valid for a whole year. If you're in that area, it's such a good deal to consider. Just search a6600 on OfferUp in Orange County, CA.
On sale today for $1199. Picked one up. Super happy!
to be honest, alla i wanted in a camera as I use it, was an A6500 equivalent camera with a bigger battery, there, sony made it
@Lucas Lee yeah, something fuji couldn't even do in wat? how many years?
I’ll still use my 6300.
Me too. Great camera! Haha
I had to upgrade from my old ass A6000. Need that fast focus to chase my kid around. And that -$200 sale sold me.
beedubvr6 what do you use now?
I bought the A6100 with kit lens on sale for 748 shipped with extras to my door. The sale price pushed me over from buying the A6400 and not going to get an A6600 at that price. Just wanted the small APSC camera with flip screen and good 4K. Easily fits in my backpack for outdoors content. Might spend the savings on a sigma 16mm F1.4 for low light.
Love your sincerity about the Camera flash. I am not professional and I use a lot of built-in flash, I hate to carry heavy flash, put in on and take off. The shoes flash is important too, cause if the built-in flash is dead, I can use external flash if I have too instead of buying a new camera. When there is a new camera, the update must be value for it new update not to remove it's feature. Thank you so much for the clarity of this A6600 vs. A6400.
Would love to see a review of the Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8 DG DN Art Lens for Sony E Mount
I've had the a6600 with the Sony 35mm 1.8 and Sigma 16mm 1.4 lenses for a few weeks. Paid £1149 on e-infinity for ths body. I'm excited by it 🤗
I sold the a6400 and bought the a6600. And I'm super happy with it!
lol I did same,,,but not before making a review of a6400=its a very capable camera
Valerio Coronella Eye-Autofocus 4K, Larger battery, ibis. Not interested in A7M3. 😉
@Valerio Coronella simple,,IBIS because I want to vlog with Sigma 16mm1.4 ,,need flippy screen too,,, eye AF & Z battery are a big plus too
@Valerio Coronella Sony ibis is bad yes, but it's much better than nothing.,.,.,.,., I hope you are right & eyeAF in video will come to a6100/a6400 via firmware update
I’m still love the A6000 and it is perfect for my need but with high quality lenses. I don’t do video at all. I also have the eye focus in it. :)
I picked up a really nice one yesterday. Box and manuals... what's your favorite lens?
Picked up a body for £1029 here in the UK. Well pleased with it.
I so agree with you in all levels in your review. You just verbalized what's in my mind. Especially the pop-up flash! Great job, Athur!
had the a6400 and now i have the a6600 its worth the money, great video, also the a6100 is the best value for money
I really like the A6400 but. I am in love with my A6600... I use it in conjunction with my A7iii and using the same batteries makes things a lot easier... I got the A6600 at a very good price...
Patiently waiting for your 70-350 G lens review
Arthur, any chance you could review the new 70-350 apsc lens?
Im wondering if the 16-55 + 70-350 is a good combo to cover a wide range.
Also interested how it compares to the 18-135.
Thanks :)
CurrentPeakRC I have this lens, I mean 70-350G and it’s awesome 😎 Love that range, sharpness is good enough and the portability is great. Highly recommended.
@@photo_shoot_travel "sharpness is good enough" isn't encouraging 😅
@@photo_shoot_travel You need to start a youtube channel and post the review for us lol
Those are the lenses I want as well as the 90mm macro and I'll be happy with those 3.
I was - and am - bitterly disappointed when Sony announced this camera. I was hoping for a major upgrade in resolution. I want the IBIS. I don't do video. And I want an A6700R resolution monster. I am staying with APS-C. Smaller, lighter, and good or great lenses much cheaper. I love my A6500 and see no where near enough reason to "upgrade" to the A6600.
Bob in Oregon way more mp on an aps-c? Are you not afraid to have significant noise issues? Do not believe that a lot more mp on the aps-c sensor will work out effectively. Go for fullframe, I guess
Many people in the existing 6500 user base feel this way.
@@stefanterbekke8506Stefan - thanks for your comments. But I do very little low light shooting, and when I do noise is not much of an issue. Most of my shooting is landscapes in daylight. Full frame is a great way to spend a *lot* more money, especially for glass, and for me with very small benefit. I am sticking with APS-C.
@@stefanterbekke8506 More noise from higher MP is a horribly overblown misconception. Yes, sometimes, depending on the sensor technology and your specific shooting situation, a higher MP count can cause a little more overall noise. But in the vast majority of shooting situation the overall signal to noise ratio ends up being about the same and the higher MP sensor just retains more detail. Look at comparison images between the A7s II and the D810, until you go past ISO6400 they have basically the same noise with the D810 retaining a ton more detail. Even at 25600 sure the D810 has more noise but it also has more detail and you could sacrifice a little bit of that detail to noise reduction. Basically the same situation with modern cameras too if you look at the A7III vs A7rIV or the a6600 vs the M6 II.
The only dealbreaker is the too old sensor -- next new 6X00 APS from Sony will probably have the new sensor (already on the market sold to other brands) immediately making both 6400 and 6600 obsolete. 6 months? So, no reason to waste money now. It's better to wait a bit.
You're assuming a lot that Sony will quickly follow up its 6400 / 6600 release with another set of aps-c cameras. They took 3 years between the 6500 and the 6600.
@@RageCage1701 There was 6400 and then 6100 + 6600. Quite possibly we could see 6400 replacement first hopefully during the next year. Sony needs to do something with that unacceptable and non-competitive rolling shutter. This is the only reason stopping me from buying 6400 or 6600 at this particular moment in time. The sensor is just unacceptably outdated and Sony already has the new one used in direct competitor camera.
With renewed interest by Sony to APS-C line, relese of new E lenses for it, and aggressive new competition in the category I hope we'll see some progress faster.
I will be getting one of these to replace one of my 6300's, but I'm going to wait for the price to drop some. It doesn't make much sense at $1,400. If it dropped below $1,000, I think that would be enough for me to pick one up.
4k60P and old non-BSI sensor are not "blah blah blah", those are crippling moves from Sony in 2019
Sony just dropped the price to $1200 for the holidays.
The battery, IBIS, and grip alone make it worth $500.. I enjoyed the one I tested. Loved shooting 17 short clips at a live music performance and having 68% of the Z battery left in an a6xxx
Gonna keep my A6500. The eye focus is still adequate for A6500, and battery I share with my old NEX cameras. I don't shoot much vids but A6500 vids are same quality as A6400, and face AF works fine.
Just bought myself a 6400. It's perfect for me. Only 4k60 would have changed my mind
Good video. I agree they should have just left the flash and made it $1,100. I still LOVE my a6400, can't go wrong.
personally I think the a6400 is definitely a better choice money wise. but Imma be on the lookout for a cheaper sony a6600 (used)
I bought one and I absolutely love it!
Best camera I bought with my money thanks Sony for my brand new a6600
For me IBIS is more important than EAF on cats and dogs. Since I don't vlog and don't take selfies the flipup screen is no improvement at all. I was hoping for a better EVF placed on the top of the camera. Since Sony mean that all APS-C cameras shall have the stupid flipup screen I will never get the APS-C camera I want. I like the smaller size of APS-C lenses, the body don't need to be in rangfinder style. The better grip is nice.
Thank you for your honesty !
I was hoping for more on this camera, no reason to move from my A6500, unless I go to an A7RIII.
I recently ditched the 6500 for the 6600, no brainer! Only use it for video, eye and face af with monitor was the clincher. I have A73 for main video. Never taken a pic with a Sony, I have Canon for that.
200usd off today and 100usd off the 16-55 2.8. Happy Holiday Shopping!!!😁
keeping my Sony a6400 now and future. in my opinion i think it just wasting money for keep upgrading your cameras. what you're really need is just a good lens. btw: good review on Sony A6600
Dear Arthur, as a professional in camera may you share a little about continuous tracking between 18-105 and 16-55 on A6400? How does 18-105 team up with A6400 nowadays? Thank you very much.
Your channel is so informative, definitely tuning in to all your Sony a6 thousand ish video series before making my first camera purchase next year. I'm looking for my first entry-level (almost mid-range) camera
Best Review!
4:47 - I know most reviewers have expressed unenthusiastic about the IBIS, but for me, the IBIS saves me so much time in the editing room. Without it, you might be having to fix the minor shakes in editing (with warp stabilizer). I see you filmed this video with the a6400 and a gimbal, but I can still see some shakiness.
7:40 - I think they may have done that intentionally. By reserving this feature for the a6600 they gave said model an advantage over the others. For me, the eye-tracking in video mode was worth the couple hundred bucks.
8:22 - The headphone jack is a big plus for me, but not at all a deal-breaker. The only reason is that my monitor has a headphone jack. (I couldn't see the screen on the a6500 in the light, especially when filming in 4k and even not in 4k. So I needed a monitor so I wouldn't have to wait until I got into the editing room to discover my shots slightly out of focus.
11:00 - I am a videographer and the unlimited recording is why upgraded from my a6500.
11:14 - I totally agree with you, they overpriced it. They really should mark it down. A lower price would definitely earn the title Flagship.
It's down to $1200 now.. for a first time camera for hq family pics and 4k video which camera should a body get? 6400 or 6600?
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The Sony a6600 is currently only $300 more than a6400 as it went on sale today 12/9 at Amazon/B&H Photo for $1198.
Yep, it's actually attractive at that price.
Rakuten points back from buying from Adorama through their portal = 1% cash back and 15% pts back today. Got my a6600 ordered for 1331(tax)-179 pts back = abouts 1152 out the door. So... while I agree that most days the a6400 is a better buy... as Vin Diesel says "Not today..."
Grabbed one myself! Came with great accessories too! No brainier over the a6400 at that price.
Hey Arthur. Good review. I don't think you wasted you money. I do have a question. Today the a6600 is $200 off and the 16 to 55 is $100 off. Do those price points make sense or is the a7iii at $1550 still a better buy?
Instead of buying A7III buying this camera will be give us the same results then for the video? Which lens would you suggest?
Thanks!! I am wanting to upgrade from the 6300 and wanted to see if the jump to the 6600 was worth the money. I think I may go with the 6400 for now and see what Sony has in a few years.
Despite the different sized sensor, would be cool to see a comparison between this and the Sigma FP as they are the two most compact/most powerful mirrorless cameras currently!
I'm still rocking sony a6300 and so far sony hasn't come up yet with anything that would made me want to upgrade. For things like grip and battery life there is plenty of workarounds.
Autofocus on 6300 still works for me.
Until there will be a leap in terms of video I'm good where I am :)
Arthur what’s your recommendation of a charger… rather than using the body to charge it.
Good video. You missed one point. It's significantly heavier than a6400.
It’s not the worst purchase, but personally I see no reason to get it over the a6400. If you got the money then go for it!
It’s 12/09/19 and the price is 1199$ on amazon and other websites, it IS perfect price for this camera, have it for couple days and so happy that I didn’t purchase 6400 but I agree that initial 1400$ price is a bit high.
Maybe the A7M4 is coming... :p
Will definitely get the 6600 over the 6400 soon primarily because of the bigger battery. I also like the C3 bottom for back button AF.
I'm seriously confused about negative opinions of Sony IBIS. My comments about it all relate to my A6500 but are equally relevant to the A6600. Keep in mind that I don't shoot video.
I recently switched from my A77ii (and fallback A77) A-mount APS-C camera, with a heap of legacy A-mount lenses, and chose the A6500 (and both the LA-EA3 and LA-EA4 converters). I chose the A6500 over the A6400 because of IBIS, despite some nice features in the A6400.
While the A6600 added several features I wanted, being an amateur without substantial income, the price of the A6600 was just too high for me.
By the way, I have to say that the LA-EA4 performs far better than I had expected on SOME of my lenses, with the A6500. Examples which work nicely and where the A6500 IBIS really makes a big difference include the SAL 100/2.8 1:1 Macro, Minolta 50/1.4, Minolta 135/2.8 and Tamron 70-200/2.8 (IF) Macro.
However, those A-mount lenses which AF properly with the A6500 when using the LA-EA3, have SUBSTANTIALLY faster AF and are STEADIER on the A6500 than on the A77ii. Examples of this include my SAL 70-400 G SSM II, and my Sigma 85/1.4. Hand-holding the 70-400 G2, at an effective focal length of 600mm, is a very doable option on the A6500.
So, in short, IBIS works well for me on the A6500, and would be a strong reason for someone like me, with some excellent heavy A-mount glass, to choose the A6600 over the A6400.
Very informative and well structured content, I enjoy your channel.
There is also a second custom position on the mode dial and a biggie is that the SD card no longer is placed near the battery door hinge which is a massive improvement .. Ibelieve the flash was removed to improve weather resistance and looking at my A6400 with the flash popped up I can see the logic in that
As someone who shoots with heavy Soviet lenses, a bigger grip and IBIS is a night and day difference. I don't really care about AF since my lenses don't have AF.
so true,,,,,,,it's one of the main reasons I bought a6600,,,even despite the fact that Sony's ibis is not the best
A Sony HVL-F20M flash will work better than the near useless in body flash that shadows from most any mid to large lens. The A6600 is awesome.
Own a 64k but love these reviews.
The pop up flash will be coming in the A6700
I couldn't wait until the a6600 started shipping and bought the a6400. The only things I miss are the better grip/battery and the stabilizer, but I agree with Arthur that paying U$ 500.00 for it is a little salty...
Get a Meike battery grip from aliexpress and some batteries.
@@indysbike3014 I agree with the extra batteries, good suggestion on the grip, I'll look for it!
Very informative video as always 👍🏼 Imho the price could be justified if there were control dials and a joystick like in an A7 III and maybe a newer sensor. Then it would be a small and low weight alternative to FF.
I'm glad I opted for the 6400 a few weeks back, Sony's ibis isn't very good and I really don't mind popping in a fresh battery every so often. If I am going to be shooting a timelapse I can easily wire up a power bank :) you can clip them into the cage easily
@Why Me Yes, I am not into video but for photography the IBIS in a6500 make a difference. I can handhold the camera and take pictures at 1/5 of a second.
@Why Me What??
Do you think the ibis on the a6600 would make a big difference when using Sony's new 16-50 f2.8 lens for photos and video or do you think the a6400 would be fine? I would be using the camera when traveling.
Idk. My a6000 works pretty good. Battery life isn’t an issue for me as I just take pictures of birds. I don’t see how this camera could be worth the upgrade. I’m just gunna wait for the 6700 and buy that one.
So how much money are we supposed to spend for the extra battery size and grip?
Excellent vid once again! Great advice
Hi dude,
I'm buying a new camera for vlogging
What should I go with
A6600 with Sigma 16mm and 30mm
Or A6400 with Sony 10-18 and Sony 35mm
Please do answer
What did you end up getting?
Someone located in southern California is selling brand new a6600s on OfferUp for $1080 out the door (no sales tax). I bought one and it turned out to be totally legit and the manufacturer's warranty was still valid for a whole year. If you're in that area, it's such a good deal and just something to consider.
Please suggest which one is best A6400 or A 6600 ??