I love this show because it was done live.It was whatever was relevant on a particular Sunday night in 1950 something or 1960 something. You get a genuine impression what was really happening a that moment in time in our country and society without the historical or a 20/20 hindsight perspective that we usually get. I have tried to explain that to people (my family). But all they can see is a silly game show. There is so much more in these old clips. I love them. They are fascinating!
I know exactly what you mean. If you haven't checked out You Bet Your Life yet, I think you'd really like it. The main draw, of course, is Groucho, but even more so than WML, you get a real sense of what people's lives were like back then because the contestants were ordinary people and the show was 90% about interviewing them, not the quiz. WML, on the other hand, rarely gave the contestants much of a chance to speak at all. ruclips.net/channel/UCUIbTdEI7D1AMyLATIdKq5w
You Bet Your Life was, because of Groucho, packed with sexual innuendos. I'm no prude, but quite honestly, the "jokes" and play on words became tiresome rather quickly.
Jane Fonda was just on Who wants to Be a Millionaire and Jimmy Kimmel asked her if she had been on a game show before and she said she was on What's my Line. It's so crazy it seems so long ago.
@@User12345fan, fake or refined? Real or improved? Being "real" is going about without deodorant, but I'd rather the other person wear it! Lol. My point: Educated people in the past were taught proper ways of speaking. Call it fake if you'd like, but it was sure more pleasant against the ears than the flat nonchalance, annoying nasality, and weak grammaticality of many of today's public faces. (Lol. You agree?)
I've seen so many episodes of WML, many of them multiple times, that it was a especially pleasing to see such a great episode that I know I've *never* seen before. I loved the evolution of the questions for each contestant, and I particularly enjoyed seeing 1960 Jane Fonda as I'm in the the midst of watching her terrific new show Grace & Frankie. As always, I'm so grateful to you, Gary, for the care and attention you give to this channel. Thank you!
I never knew Jane Fonda was so well known as early as 1960. She was 22 or 23 here since she was born in 1937. The first time I remember seeing her was in "Cat Ballou" in 1965.
The Fondas have given us so many wonderful movie moments. One of the great families of American entertainment. Henry, Jane, Peter, Bridget and Justin -- what a great group.
I agree and I only wish Bridget hadn't decided, several years ago, to leave the business. She was excellent in the movies she appeared in,my favorite being "Point of No Return."
In Canada, it's against the law for anyone involved in the census to give out any information about their work or the data they collected from people or even the fact they worked for the census at all. I should know, I --
What's My Line . . . Thank you for presenting this series. It clearly illustrates the ENORMOUS amount of talent in the not-to-distant-past. IF the show were on today . . . NO blindfolds would be needed, since the Mystery Guest wouldn't be recognized at all. There wouldn't be enough celebraties to fill even one season. I'm sure many of the Guests, and Panel members, are totally unknown by today's youngsters, but with some study, perhaps the hot-shot-hopefuls would learn some quality.
Had the extreme pleasure of meeting Jane in Hanoi. She spilled more information on the US than ten prisoners. Very informative and still have her autograph.
Howard Stern relates the story of when he went to the movies with his father and watched Jane's movie Barbarella in the late 60s when Howard was a teenager. He got excited while watching her and was embarrassed having his father sitting right next to him.
I laughed when Jane Fonda said she doesn't make records. I actually found a couple of her workout soundtrack records at an estate sale today. Honey, give it about 25 years, you'll make your records🤣.
I love Dorothy's new hairstyle. It definitely is a precursor of what would be worn for the next decade. I don't know why she got concerned about a census taker at her townhouse without her knowledge. However, Dick Kollmar had a history with young women...maybe Dorothy thought something besides census-taking took place?
As Dorothy starts to speak after walking to her chair (00:58) she stops and says "Thank you" to some comment from the audience that we can't hear. It's almost certainly something about her new hairdo.
I think its that the census taker's comment rather publicly showed up that communications between Dorothy and her husband were somewhat lacking. (And both Dorothy's hair and her dress look great in this episode.)
+Mark Stewart What's worthless is your comment. Either leave politics off these pages or don't add comments, Mark. (entwistle4ever, this wasn't directed at you, but at a comment I've deleted.)
I finally get one right with a "free guess" on the last challenger before his line was flashed on the screen. Yes, I know that the free guess was dropped many years before this episode, but I still try to guess the occupation in the few moments before it flashes on the screen.
I always liked it when plummers and cooks dressed in "street clothes" looked like big executives or rich people in those days. The panel couldn't tell about their background just based on how they looked.
We all owned “Sunday Best” outifts back then - even if we avoided church. And our day-to-day suits and dresses were pretty good too. I wore a tie to school every day (state school not private) and my grandad would always wear a tie and blazer to family dinner.
To say she was an unbelievable fox is an understatement. My God, what gorgeous woman at age 22. To have the balls to state her political beliefs against a stupid war, was a plus.
Alizee Defan Please don't make political comments. This is a blanket rule of mine, has nothing to do with whether I agree or not with what people are saying. It's the only way to keep the usual flame wars from breaking out. Thanks.
scrapplepig Thank you SO MUCH for not only completely ignoring the very clear request I made directly above your comments that people not leave political comments, but also, as is typically the case with political comments on YT, with a completely unnecessarily rude and crass tone. I try to keep the comments on these videos LIGHT. If you want to fight with people about Jane Fonda's politics, do it somewhere else.
Whoa I lived in Swarthmore Pa for a while, and in Philly for years. ...Mr. Daly had quite a reaction to the lusty reception for Miss Fonda. And it was an unusually enthusiastic response.
It was only fitting that John Daly flip all the cards for the census worker because since it was census time Bennett Cerf by his own admission expected a census worker to turn up on the show. Also, having worked for the census myself (in 1980 and yes I took a test for the job) I can tell you that people get very angry over answering their questionnaires whether it be by mail, phone or in person.
I hate it when Bennett takes wherever place the contestant is from and asks them if they work at a job that the geographical place is known for, as if 100% of the working people at that place work at that one organization.
What an odd expression on Bennett at the reveal of the butler's occupation. And how nice to have a 4th challenger that isn't rushed! The census taker segment must have been quite a bust considering the work it must have taken to get her to the panel's homes, etc., and then have the whole bit basically go nowhere.
@@Michael-gu8ck 4 months into the next decade, it can definitely be said that the etiquette displayed is indicative of the second half of the 50s, too.
@Lovely Peaches is Queen hey, that's your take. many people are nostalgic for it, though i was just a little kid. You stand by YOUR opinion, i'll stick with mine, ok?
I'm vaguely disconcerted by Dorothy being so irked at the census-taking -- I mean, it's in the Constitution and everything! Maybe she was just a minimalist. Anyway. Always glad to see Polly Bergen anywhere. (Most of my exposure to her is the occasional TTT episode, mind you.)
She's my favorite panelist on TTTT. She brought most of the humor to the early TTTT episodes, which were otherwise pretty staid. (I saw your reply to my message about contacting you, btw, which I will do very soon-- thank you!)
Oh, definitely -- her mock-argumentation really livened things up. Charmed me immediately. (Ah! good. I was disconcerted when RUclips wasn't using the +Person method to direct one's replies to specific people anymore, but I suspect that's just de-emphasizing G+. Or... something. Anyway, definitely a code change. Ours is not to reason why.)
Except that her same, old act, week after week ceased to be funny. [ i,e, "Well I voted for no. 1 but I really think it's no. 3" etc. etc. blah, blah, blah]
@@TheCometHunter Yeah but that's the point. She seemed really irritated that she wasn't home and someone else, even if it was her husband, told the census lady about her (Dorothy) Why should that even bother her?
gcjerryusc Yep agree with you. Barbarella is crap. To be honest, despite her being a great actress, I don't care much for any of Fonda's movies. I like her father's of course and Easy Rider with her brother.
At the 24:10 mark you can almost see the smoke coming out of Bennett Cerf's ears as he tries and fails to formulate a protest because he couldn't zero in on the job of the butler.
I like the way Jane answers the question about being in a movie with hesitation as if she's not sure, and even more when she hesitates about her father being famous, who of course is Henry Fonda one of the Hollywood greats!!!
Dorothy Kilgallen was obviously quite annoyed that her husband gave information to a census taker. I’m not quite sure why she was so annoyed over something relatively benign - unless she was worried even then that somebody was after her.
Yes, they should make it an hour show because of the increased commercial times, but you know it will never be as classy or as intelligent as the original. They will probably "smut it up" and dumb it down like they did with Steve Harvey's Family Feud.
Yes but I think the class and wit all long gone with the panelists, moderator and contenstants. Today peoples' choice has changed and so of the producers of tv shows.
2 things. Why was there no whistles for the pretty census taker and how did Bennett figure that out so quickly?? Of course Jane looked stunning...natural beauty, little make up and hair that moves. And I like the dress Dorothy was wearing.
Cerf said that his wife had mentioned that the census taker had come, and he had thought it would be a great idea for the show, so it was on his mind. And as the responses came, he realized he had the right idea.
I have recently fallen in love with these reruns, but am I the only one who finds it amusing and ironic that the publisher is the panelist who sounds the least educated and refined?
Bennett had a strong accent and a slight speech impediment, but he hadn't had stage training as Martin Gabel, Arlene Francis, and Polly Bergen had had, so his speech didn't get that kind of "refining". Dorothy was born in Chicago and spent the first several years of her childhood there, thus acquiring a more neutral Midwestern accent than a native New Yorker would have had.
At 6:00 Bennett refers to "...a test a famous quiz contestant who won about 9 million dollars on the air couldn't pass when he tried to take it?" (presumably a test for a census taker's job). I wonder who that was? Is that a reference to Herb Stempel maybe?
Yeah I had to roll that back a few times. Bizarre....why would anyone winning 9 million dollars on the air take a test to become a census taker? I don't get it. Ah well. :)
Can't we all just loook at Jane Fonda's ACTING ABILITY and not any kind of political beliefs she might have? Does someone have to be "branded" with some label for the rest of their life?
With what horribleness she did, yes, absolutely. But we've been instructed to refrain from political comments, so I have to stop at this and I don't want to lose privileges here on this wonderful channel with which I've been so immersed.
A friend was a real estate agent and when Ted Turner was looking to buy a ranch in Nebraska he and Jane who was his wife then were taken by my friend up in the ranch lands of Nebraska to look at some properties it is very remote and few amenities around close to ranches bathrooms ,etc. They took box lunches and water and beer and set out for the day. My friend said it was a very interesting day Jane loved the box lunch and had several beers and peed outside behind the jeep like country kids do when they go road-tripping he said Ted Turner ate very little drank some water was annoyed with the heat the bugs and things in general not friendly and talked very little just asked questions. Jane seemed to love the outdoors the land the ride just about everything about the day. She was very outgoing and fun and laughed a lot. My friend said she was a simple outgoing funny lady who enjoyed being there and was very grateful for the chance to have some outdoor fun. He loved her Ted not so much
poetcomic1 Nothing to do with the attractiveness of the census taker. How would you feel if it was announced on television to an audience of multi-million people that a census had been taken specifically at your house and you'd had no idea of it?!? No surprise to me, given Dorothy's self-conscious nature, she was slightly peeved.
@@davidsanderson5918 And specifically the census taker's comment publicly showed up that communications between Dorothy and her husband were somewhat lacking.
Her verbiage indicated why she was so annoyed. Between her hired staff (she had at least five at one point), her husband (Mr. Kollmar), and her children, no one told her about the census being taken. From her outburst, it seemed she was very peeved at Richard for not letting her know (not the young lady).
Amen to that. She's got a bit of a Jane Russell look to her facial structure. And I'm a sucker for gap teeth too. Sexier than Jane Fonda if you ask me.
They've all had their livers eaten with some fava beans and a nice chianti. ... Wow, that's gonna sound bizarre to someone who doesn't get the reference...
@@MerynCadell 3 years ago for your comment, I know...but I have since read several remarks insulting Martin Gabel's value on the panel and even his value to wife Arlene! Personally, I find his energy, humour and quiet wit Very Attractive.
@@aileen694 - Two months now since you wrote this reply and (youtube having sent this particular notification to a little-used e-address of mine), I'm just seeing it now! It's fitting, I guess, with WML's timelessness. : ) ...I'm glad I've seen very few anti-Martin-Gabel comments here; it's a pretty civilized group 'round here. I've never read someone question his worth to the panel!!? I have heard, a few times - and only from men, come to think of it - something along the lines of folks wondering about what drew her to him, as I think he was shorter than she (the horror!), and those same few would say something like, "With her looks, she could have done better." All of which just demonstrates why *they* were not married to Arlene Francis, and she was not married to them.
"Based on those whistles unless the country has changed drastically you're a girl." That statement is apocalyptic. If only he knew how much the country has changed since 1960 lol
Yes watching the episodes from the tail end of the series you get a sense that Dorothy and Bennett are gradually becoming out of touch with what was going on in the country. I remember watching one episode from that period when a young contestant said "Man" to Dorothy and she was really angry and upset! She replied, Don't call me man"! It's practically the only time I saw a panelist get angry at a contestant. Bennett passed in 1971, he would have a heart attack if he saw what was going on in today's world.
@@rtususian People are products of the society they are born & later live in. Thus,judging people from the past over such matters is something I never get.
Odd that WML would have an unknown as a mystery guest, Fonda or not. At this point, Jane had appeared in one Broadway play that had closed after 16 performances and her first movie hadn't been released yet. Someone pulled strings to get her on.
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Whoever invented the mystery-guest idea deserved a raise.
Jane Fonda's performance in "Klute" should be studied in every acting class. She was amazingly real.
Hanoi Jane - Treasonous Traitor
I love this show because it was done live.It was whatever was relevant on a particular Sunday night in 1950 something or 1960 something. You get a genuine impression what was really happening a that moment in time in our country and society without the historical or a 20/20 hindsight perspective that we usually get. I have tried to explain that to people (my family). But all they can see is a silly game show. There is so much more in these old clips. I love them. They are fascinating!
I know exactly what you mean. If you haven't checked out You Bet Your Life yet, I think you'd really like it. The main draw, of course, is Groucho, but even more so than WML, you get a real sense of what people's lives were like back then because the contestants were ordinary people and the show was 90% about interviewing them, not the quiz. WML, on the other hand, rarely gave the contestants much of a chance to speak at all.
ruclips.net/channel/UCUIbTdEI7D1AMyLATIdKq5w
Thank-you, I'll check that out.
dgoldg
Well said! (re: your original comment)
You Bet Your Life was, because of Groucho, packed with sexual innuendos. I'm no prude, but quite honestly, the "jokes" and play on words became tiresome rather quickly.
James Donald People could be warned to behave themselves and not cuss. But you are alas somewhat correct.
Jane Fonda was just on Who wants to Be a Millionaire and Jimmy Kimmel asked her if she had been on a game show before and she said she was on What's my Line. It's so crazy it seems so long ago.
What was not so long ago was her betrayal of the United States and American servicemen when she, as Hanoi Jane, supported the Communists in Vietnam.
She also did "Password".
Her voice has never changed, it's crazy!
yes I know and I recognized the timbre of her voice when she was disguising it.
sounds very different, fake 60s voice
@@User12345fan, fake or refined? Real or improved? Being "real" is going about without deodorant, but I'd rather the other person wear it! Lol. My point: Educated people in the past were taught proper ways of speaking. Call it fake if you'd like, but it was sure more pleasant against the ears than the flat nonchalance, annoying nasality, and weak grammaticality of many of today's public faces. (Lol. You agree?)
ikr! it’s crazy
Andre TxT you do realize she had to change her voice so they didn’t recognize her real voice. gosh
I've seen so many episodes of WML, many of them multiple times, that it was a especially pleasing to see such a great episode that I know I've *never* seen before. I loved the evolution of the questions for each contestant, and I particularly enjoyed seeing 1960 Jane Fonda as I'm in the the midst of watching her terrific new show Grace & Frankie.
As always, I'm so grateful to you, Gary, for the care and attention you give to this channel. Thank you!
The way John Daly looks at the audience when they let out a distinctive holler for Jane Fonda. 🤣
I never knew Jane Fonda was so well known as early as 1960. She was 22 or 23 here since she was born in 1937. The first time I remember seeing her was in "Cat Ballou" in 1965.
Polly and Dorothy looked great. Thanks for the video.
The Fondas have given us so many wonderful movie moments. One of the great families of American entertainment. Henry, Jane, Peter, Bridget and Justin -- what a great group.
I agree and I only wish Bridget hadn't decided, several years ago, to leave the business. She was excellent in the movies she appeared in,my favorite being "Point of No Return."
I loved the movie Point of no Return with Bridget Fonda.
In Canada, it's against the law for anyone involved in the census to give out any information about their work or the data they collected from people or even the fact they worked for the census at all. I should know, I --
I love that this show promoted Easter Seals and March of Dimes and the research! ❤️👏👏👏
AN EXTREMELY PRETTY SMILE WHICH JANE FONDA HAS!
Bennet guessed that census taker like getting the wild guess right and Dorothy was POed to find out she went into her house.
What's My Line . . . Thank you for presenting this series. It clearly illustrates the ENORMOUS amount of talent in the not-to-distant-past. IF the show were on today . . . NO blindfolds would be needed, since the Mystery Guest wouldn't be recognized at all. There wouldn't be enough celebraties to fill even one season. I'm sure many of the Guests, and Panel members, are totally unknown by today's youngsters, but with some study, perhaps the hot-shot-hopefuls would learn some quality.
It would be "name that Kardashian"!
Had the extreme pleasure of meeting Jane in Hanoi. She spilled more information on the US than ten prisoners. Very informative and still have her autograph.
interesting.. which intel did she have about us military movements?
Weeee! Im pretending to shoot down American planes!
Weeeee!
Had the extreme pleasure of waiting for Ronald Reagan's Trickle Down money for 42 years. Which has never shown up. That's the treason my friend
Jane Fonda was such a cutie. Gorgeous babe!
Looked like the Fonda side. And a lot like Henry who was very handsome.
Howard Stern relates the story of when he went to the movies with his father and watched Jane's movie Barbarella in the late 60s when Howard was a teenager. He got excited while watching her and was embarrassed having his father sitting right next to him.
Bonerella?
14:47 Q: "Have you ever worked on the legitimate stage?"
Jane: "Yes, I must have because my parents were married when I was born."
Is this the first "public" strain of Dorothy's marriage the audience was prevy to I wonder?!
I laughed when Jane Fonda said she doesn't make records. I actually found a couple of her workout soundtrack records at an estate sale today. Honey, give it about 25 years, you'll make your records🤣.
Probably not record but tapes
Might even have been DVDs or video tapes, but not records, I don’t think.
@Historian212 they were definitely records. In high school in the early 80s lots of us had her record, including our PE teacher.
I liked the shout out to Bennett's son Chris! I believe he later helped create another TV show, Sesame Street,
No. Christopher Cerf's contributions to SS were just songs. You're thinking of the PBS program Between The Lions.
I like Serf's face when the final guest's line is revealed. Ha ha!
I love Dorothy's new hairstyle. It definitely is a precursor of what would be worn for the next decade.
I don't know why she got concerned about a census taker at her townhouse without her knowledge. However, Dick Kollmar had a history with young women...maybe Dorothy thought something besides census-taking took place?
Should have worn it that way always.
young women and men.
As Dorothy starts to speak after walking to her chair (00:58) she stops and says "Thank you" to some comment from the audience that we can't hear. It's almost certainly something about her new hairdo.
Robert Melson great style on her. Jane's is very similar.
I think its that the census taker's comment rather publicly showed up that communications between Dorothy and her husband were somewhat lacking. (And both Dorothy's hair and her dress look great in this episode.)
Jane Fonda in her prime - so gorgeous and sexy. VERY sexy. Lawd have mercy. She could act too. No tats on women back then. Pencil skirts. OH MY.
+Mark Stewart What's worthless is your comment. Either leave politics off these pages or don't add comments, Mark.
(entwistle4ever, this wasn't directed at you, but at a comment I've deleted.)
I wouldn't call her gorgeous! Seen prettier on WML regular gueats.
Not a pencil skirt.
Her prime was her whole life . 23 is hardly a prime . 30’s 40’s and even 50’s are a women’s prime
Pencil skirt? Quite the contrary.
I finally get one right with a "free guess" on the last challenger before his line was flashed on the screen. Yes, I know that the free guess was dropped many years before this episode, but I still try to guess the occupation in the few moments before it flashes on the screen.
Yes, any Hollywood casting director would have considered him for the part of a butler based on his looks, mannerisms, and voice.
Free guess!! Crikey I'd forgotten all about that!
I always liked it when plummers and cooks dressed in "street clothes" looked like big executives or rich people in those days. The panel couldn't tell about their background just based on how they looked.
- plumbers -
@@TheCometHunter, lol. Yes. I was about to write the same. (Bruno? Are you still here? Lol.)
I have many customers misspell plumbers or plumbing.
@@jimboy819 How silly of me I didn't realize I misspelled it.
We all owned “Sunday Best” outifts back then - even if we avoided church. And our day-to-day suits and dresses were pretty good too. I wore a tie to school every day (state school not private) and my grandad would always wear a tie and blazer to family dinner.
To say she was an unbelievable fox is an understatement. My God, what gorgeous woman at age 22. To have the balls to state her political beliefs against a stupid war, was a plus.
Alizee Defan Please don't make political comments. This is a blanket rule of mine, has nothing to do with whether I agree or not with what people are saying. It's the only way to keep the usual flame wars from breaking out. Thanks.
+Alizee Defan You have balls making that statement. Fool.
+Alizee Defan Her name will always be garbage.
scrapplepig Thank you SO MUCH for not only completely ignoring the very clear request I made directly above your comments that people not leave political comments, but also, as is typically the case with political comments on YT, with a completely unnecessarily rude and crass tone. I try to keep the comments on these videos LIGHT. If you want to fight with people about Jane Fonda's politics, do it somewhere else.
Lucy Gray What part of "no political comments" are you having trouble understanding?
I think Bennett and Martin are adorable!
Yes, Polly is pretty!!!
She would play Jennifer Lopez' mother in law to be in a movie 45 years later. Jennifer wasn't even born for another 10 years after this aired.
Whoa I lived in Swarthmore Pa for a while, and in Philly for years. ...Mr. Daly had quite a reaction to the lusty reception for Miss Fonda. And it was an unusually enthusiastic response.
I’m guessing these people never walked anywhere beyond 5th Avenue
The panel did very well, considering they were 0-3 the previous week!
It was only fitting that John Daly flip all the cards for the census worker because since it was census time Bennett Cerf by his own admission expected a census worker to turn up on the show. Also, having worked for the census myself (in 1980 and yes I took a test for the job) I can tell you that people get very angry over answering their questionnaires whether it be by mail, phone or in person.
I worked on the 1980 Census as well! Detroit area.
It's not census worker. It is census taker
Technically I believe it's census enumerator. To the above commenters who worked on earlier census', I say 'thank you'.
During the late 40's and thru the 50's and the mid 60's were the Baby Boom years, that's why you saw so any involved in Maternity industry.
I own a Baby Boomer page and know the years well, I lived them...facebook.com/BabyBoomers19461964?ref_type=bookmark
He wished Jane Fonda “succes”. What an understatement.
Have you noticed that when Bennett is baffled (as he is at the end of the 4th guest) his go-to question is typically transportation?
I hate it when Bennett takes wherever place the contestant is from and asks them if they work at a job that the geographical place is known for, as if 100% of the working people at that place work at that one organization.
@@rtususian Exactly! He does the same with names, like someone named Miller: "are you related in any way to Glenn Miller?"
imagine looking like jane fonda
i’d never stop looking in the mirror honestly she is so gorgeous
Polly Bergen makes Jane look plain.
What an odd expression on Bennett at the reveal of the butler's occupation. And how nice to have a 4th challenger that isn't rushed!
The census taker segment must have been quite a bust considering the work it must have taken to get her to the panel's homes, etc., and then have the whole bit basically go nowhere.
Jesus she was her father's twin especially in the eyes. Beautiful and still is.
Venus Agree what a babe!
Ahh, the beautiful etiquette of the 1950s! Fortunately, it spilled into the suceeding decade.
actually was 1960=the next decade.
@@Michael-gu8ck 4 months into the next decade, it can definitely be said that the etiquette displayed is indicative of the second half of the 50s, too.
@@mog398, thank you for making my point clear to Michael. (Hi, Michael.)
@Lovely Peaches is Queen best decade in America!
@Lovely Peaches is Queen hey, that's your take. many people are nostalgic for it, though i was just a little kid. You stand by YOUR opinion, i'll stick with mine, ok?
Jane Fonda Wow! 60 years and active as ever! ☺
85 now, and admitted she has cancer and may not have much longer to live. Late-Dec 2022.
CENSUS TAKER (TOOK CENSUS AT HOMES OF OUR PANEL)
DESIGNS MATERNITY CLOTHES
BUTLER
I'm vaguely disconcerted by Dorothy being so irked at the census-taking -- I mean, it's in the Constitution and everything! Maybe she was just a minimalist.
Anyway. Always glad to see Polly Bergen anywhere. (Most of my exposure to her is the occasional TTT episode, mind you.)
She's my favorite panelist on TTTT. She brought most of the humor to the early TTTT episodes, which were otherwise pretty staid.
(I saw your reply to my message about contacting you, btw, which I will do very soon-- thank you!)
Oh, definitely -- her mock-argumentation really livened things up. Charmed me immediately.
(Ah! good. I was disconcerted when RUclips wasn't using the +Person method to direct one's replies to specific people anymore, but I suspect that's just de-emphasizing G+. Or... something. Anyway, definitely a code change. Ours is not to reason why.)
Except that her same, old act, week after week ceased to be funny. [ i,e, "Well I voted for no. 1 but I really think it's no. 3" etc. etc. blah, blah, blah]
Dorothy wasn't irked that it happened - it was because SHE WASN"T THERE WHEN IT TOOK PLACE! (For whatever reasons she may have had. )
@@TheCometHunter Yeah but that's the point. She seemed really irritated that she wasn't home and someone else, even if it was her husband, told the census lady about her (Dorothy) Why should that even bother her?
Funny John mentioned Bovril, figured only Britons knew about that stuff. Though I'm sure he was well-travelled
+jennjenn61 Well, John is a guy who thought conductors were on American buses...
One day before the 32 annual academy awards !
She just turned eighty. I had the profound pleasure of speaking to her on the phone - when she was sixty-six - a delightful lady.
pizza delivery ?
Young Jane Fonda makes me have daydreams about night things in the middle of the afternoon.
Then BARBARELLA will give you cardiac arrest! LOL
@@TheCometHunter Agreed especially that intro. 😂
gcjerryusc Yep agree with you. Barbarella is crap. To be honest, despite her being a great actress, I don't care much for any of Fonda's movies. I like her father's of course and Easy Rider with her brother.
Polly Bergen never wore maternity clothes. She had two adopted children and a step child.
At the 24:10 mark you can almost see the smoke coming out of Bennett Cerf's ears as he tries and fails to formulate a protest because he couldn't zero in on the job of the butler.
Bennett was often a poor loser, imho
getting pregnant is intimate.
being pregnant is not intimate.
might be if you're the kid...?
Nor is it an illness.
I like the way Jane answers the question about being in a movie with hesitation as if she's not sure, and even more when she hesitates about her father being famous, who of course is Henry Fonda one of the Hollywood greats!!!
This is
when she was Henry Fonda's daughter. If you know what I mean...
I decided to fall in love with Polly Bergen ;)
***** Polly Bergen is also still with us as well. In fact, she too doesn't look a day old at 83.
Yes, I have seen this too. I had seen her in some WML-Video here, but was surprised to see her again in this one.
***** -- Miss Bergen passed on a few months after your post. She died on September 20, 2014 at age 84.
ToddSF 94109 And Jayne Meadows on April 26, 2015 at age 95.
You're joking
Tells Dorothy she is associated with a product too but that doesnt mean she sells typewriters.
Dorothy Kilgallen was obviously quite annoyed that her husband gave information to a census taker. I’m not quite sure why she was so annoyed over something relatively benign - unless she was worried even then that somebody was after her.
Of course she was worried. She was investigating other things of great importance at this time.
With the aid of a little plastic surgery, healthy living and decades of fitness, Jane has barely changed.
Agree, but she has likely had more than a little surgery. She is very beautiful still though.
You gurls are just a little jealous of Jane Fonda.😜
@@nicholasjanosy2214 No. Just have the facts. Her surgeon is great though because she always still looked like ‘Jane’
OH THE MEMORIES
Bring this show back!
Yes, they should make it an hour show because of the increased commercial times, but you know it will never be as classy or as intelligent as the original. They will probably "smut it up" and dumb it down like they did with Steve Harvey's Family Feud.
Yes but I think the class and wit all long gone with the panelists, moderator and contenstants. Today peoples' choice has changed and so of the producers of tv shows.
@@rtususian Love your intuition on "smut it up" and dumb it down!
This was before Hanoi Jane went insane. 🤪
We did some terrible things in Vietnam
I wonder if, out of shot, Daly put up his hand to quell the audience when Serf asked the question about her father.
2 things. Why was there no whistles for the pretty census taker and how did Bennett figure that out so quickly?? Of course Jane looked stunning...natural beauty, little make up and hair that moves. And I like the dress Dorothy was wearing.
Cerf said that his wife had mentioned that the census taker had come, and he had thought it would be a great idea for the show, so it was on his mind. And as the responses came, he realized he had the right idea.
That's 57 years ago, in 2017. Great show.
Jorge Uoxinton 60 now. 2020.
VERY PRETTY AND CUTE JANE FONDA IN 1960!
Bennett knows his ladies :)
1st guest acts uppity
I loved the wolf whistling at Jane Fonda and so did she at the time, how times have changed.
It was a normal, natural simple compliment.
Normal and natural being rare these days.
I mainly know Polly Bergen as Lynette's crazy mother on Desperate Housewives.....quite a switch from what she looks like here, lol
She is so beautiful. Nuff said
I have recently fallen in love with these reruns, but am I the only one who finds it amusing and ironic that the publisher is the panelist who sounds the least educated and refined?
Bennett had a strong accent and a slight speech impediment, but he hadn't had stage training as Martin Gabel, Arlene Francis, and Polly Bergen had had, so his speech didn't get that kind of "refining". Dorothy was born in Chicago and spent the first several years of her childhood there, thus acquiring a more neutral Midwestern accent than a native New Yorker would have had.
Neil Midkiff Smart reply. Quite right.
@@neilmidkiff My apologies, chum, for not knowing that you had responded, and so tactfully, three years ago.
He talks like a reader. He ha sounded out words he read according to his best guess.
At 6:00 Bennett refers to "...a test a famous quiz contestant who won about 9 million dollars on the air couldn't pass when he tried to take it?" (presumably a test for a census taker's job). I wonder who that was? Is that a reference to Herb Stempel maybe?
Yeah I had to roll that back a few times. Bizarre....why would anyone winning 9 million dollars on the air take a test to become a census taker? I don't get it. Ah well. :)
I did not know that Arlene Francis was married to the panelist Mr Gebel
It’s Gabel and have you been hiding under a stone?
@@LANCSKIDI know one movie I love that Martin Gabel is in is “ Goodbye Charlie “ with Tony Curtis and Debbie Reynolds.
@@GeneRogers-di6cl Still, some paradox, eh?
Louise the census lady had such style and class, even charisma. Could have made a great actress.
'Have you ever worked on the LEGITIMATE stage?' They looked down on film and television only stars. Several of the panel ask that across the episodes.
It's an old fashioned term, and here it pretty much means as opposed to vaudeville, or maybe night clubs. It's not a knock at films or television.
I love Jane Fonda's autograph. _There Was a Little Girl,_ though...
Can't we all just loook at Jane Fonda's ACTING ABILITY and not any kind of political beliefs she might have? Does someone have to be "branded" with some label for the rest of their life?
With what horribleness she did, yes, absolutely. But we've been instructed to refrain from political comments, so I have to stop at this and I don't want to lose privileges here on this wonderful channel with which I've been so immersed.
She was SO adorable in BAREFOOT IN THE PARK!
Very good point,eswp.as this was before the whole Vietname War stuff.
A friend was a real estate agent and when Ted Turner was looking to buy a ranch in Nebraska he and Jane who was his wife then were taken by my friend up in the ranch lands of Nebraska to look at some properties it is very remote and few amenities around close to ranches bathrooms ,etc. They took box lunches and water and beer and set out for the day. My friend said it was a very interesting day Jane loved the box lunch and had several beers and peed outside behind the jeep like country kids do when they go road-tripping he said Ted Turner ate very little drank some water was annoyed with the heat the bugs and things in general not friendly and talked very little just asked questions. Jane seemed to love the outdoors the land the ride just about everything about the day. She was very outgoing and fun and laughed a lot. My friend said she was a simple outgoing funny lady who enjoyed being there and was very grateful for the chance to have some outdoor fun. He loved her Ted not so much
In her case, yes.
Padilla was handsome!
I didn't realize Fonda did this twice
She's so fit!
Love Jane!
B Cerf was fed the info ,no way he knew that so fast unless he recognized her and did not admit it
Francis Deleo It seems reasonable to me that he recognised her as she'd been to his home.
Jane Fonda was 22 years old at that time, being born in Dec. 1937.
Bennett, Liberians. I thought with your great erudition you would have used the correct term Li-Brar-ians.
CarlDuke He has a slight speech impediment with the letter R.
dorothy seemed a little annoyed at the beautiful census taker for some reason.
poetcomic1 Nothing to do with the attractiveness of the census taker. How would you feel if it was announced on television to an audience of multi-million people that a census had been taken specifically at your house and you'd had no idea of it?!? No surprise to me, given Dorothy's self-conscious nature, she was slightly peeved.
@@davidsanderson5918 And specifically the census taker's comment publicly showed up that communications between Dorothy and her husband were somewhat lacking.
Her verbiage indicated why she was so annoyed. Between her hired staff (she had at least five at one point), her husband (Mr. Kollmar), and her children, no one told her about the census being taken. From her outburst, it seemed she was very peeved at Richard for not letting her know (not the young lady).
Jane...so cute and pretty
She’s adorable, just like her dad!
The census taker for me falls under the same category as bill collector!😝😝😝
HANOI jane!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Few years before she did Cat Ballou
So funny how the host pronounces Mr. Padilla... and the poor guy just goes with it!
If Mr. Padilla was an Italian-American, John pronounced his name correctly.
I thought that perhaps the name had been Americanized, and he just accepted it as a matter of course.
I liked Polly Bergen here, even though she hardly contributed anything.
Jane Fonda beautiful ❤️
Sigh... They just don't make census takers like that anymore...
Amen to that. She's got a bit of a Jane Russell look to her facial structure. And I'm a sucker for gap teeth too. Sexier than Jane Fonda if you ask me.
They've all had their livers eaten with some fava beans and a nice chianti.
... Wow, that's gonna sound bizarre to someone who doesn't get the reference...
Me too, re. gapped teeth. That's one of many reasons I love Martin Gabel!
@@MerynCadell 3 years ago for your comment, I know...but I have since read several remarks insulting Martin Gabel's value on the panel and even his value to wife Arlene! Personally, I find his energy, humour and quiet wit Very Attractive.
@@aileen694 - Two months now since you wrote this reply and (youtube having sent this particular notification to a little-used e-address of mine), I'm just seeing it now! It's fitting, I guess, with WML's timelessness. : ) ...I'm glad I've seen very few anti-Martin-Gabel comments here; it's a pretty civilized group 'round here. I've never read someone question his worth to the panel!!? I have heard, a few times - and only from men, come to think of it - something along the lines of folks wondering about what drew her to him, as I think he was shorter than she (the horror!), and those same few would say something like, "With her looks, she could have done better." All of which just demonstrates why *they* were not married to Arlene Francis, and she was not married to them.
Louise Whaaaat ? Type of Cursive Is That !
"Based on those whistles unless the country has changed drastically you're a girl."
That statement is apocalyptic.
If only he knew how much the country has changed since 1960 lol
Yes watching the episodes from the tail end of the series you get a sense that Dorothy and Bennett are gradually becoming out of touch with what was going on in the country. I remember watching one episode from that period when a young contestant said "Man" to Dorothy and she was really angry and upset! She replied, Don't call me man"! It's practically the only time I saw a panelist get angry at a contestant. Bennett passed in 1971, he would have a heart attack if he saw what was going on in today's world.
@@rtususian People are products of the society they are born & later live in. Thus,judging people from the past over such matters is something I never get.
I really like Jones dress and Dorothy Kilgallens dress.
How did Bennett get that census one so quickly and easily unless he really knew who she was from the interview she conducted at his house?
Yes !
Start at 4:00 and see Bennett Cerf try to get a free Yes or No answer. I loved Dorothy and Arlene (and Martin).
Everything did bubble and burst for the rest of Janes days.
Odd that WML would have an unknown as a mystery guest, Fonda or not. At this point, Jane had appeared in one Broadway play that had closed after 16 performances and her first movie hadn't been released yet. Someone pulled strings to get her on.
Her daddy.