Beppe when you have a gifted player as Chiesa he can fit in any system or style. A lot of Juventus players have had poor stats this season. Yildiz is going to be a champion player but he is not there yet. Juventus should extend until 2026 and Motta should give Chiesa a chance to see if he fits in his system and style in a 2-7-2 formation. Who knows Chiesa might have his best season under Motta. I guess it’s up to Motta as the coach.
He doesn't need to adjust anything. Chiesa fits directly with what he wants to do. This report is either false, or Motta has some petty issue with Chiesa personally.
Good analysis 👌🏻👏🏻 The Chiesa news is just reporting the trend in his past performances. That doesn't mean he cannot upgrade his game and adapt to a new way of playing in addition to his instinct. We have seen players in the past adapt their game and excel in their new roles. Mandzukic to play with Higuain played as a left winger and that change made fans love him. I bet Chiesa is hearing all this news and might show signs of change during the EUROs to convince Motta. With his relationship with the fans and finally gaining physical and mental fitness, I believe Chiesa would love to stay to achieve more titles with Juve before leaving to another big team of his preference. But then comes the mercato issue with the funds and contract renewals and salary cap. Can Soulé and Huijsen bring much needed cash? Does Milik and Kean leaving with Morata coming back resolve the attacking department? Morata is not for free 🤔 Let's see how things develop. We as fans have no real say in this.
Soule and Huijsen should be able to bring us 50-60 million. Kostic, Kean, Mckennie, Milik, Danilo should bring us another 10-20 million. Then we also have 52.5 million already. I really don't see the need to sell Chiesa
Its all about tactics. You can not prove me that Chiesa is not faster, especially in the offensive part than these two. He can adapt easily to Motta's tactics. And how can he erase him from the squad, if he doesn't give him a chance. Did he know if Odgaard or Ndoye would perform like that before joining Bologna? Of course not. For me this is just an excuse for them to sell Chiesa for big money and to finance the upcoming mercato.
I respect the analysis but I’m sorry to say it’s hard to compare players playing in two totally different systems and players.. Kostic was useless this year we saw every time they were playing together it was a disaster…. The entire team had no idea what to do in the offensive phase Allegri wasn’t enforcing any patters of play offensively where Motta was very specific on what to do during the build up as well as defensively. Guys it’s not emotional it’s just plain stupidity to think that Motta who wasn’t even announced as coach who hasn’t even stepped into la Continasa already had dismissed a player like Chiesa whom would be starting in pretty much and Serie A side…. He’s over his injury woes both metal and physical, moving him now would be stupid. This is just a narrative created by the media to make headline and borderline disrespectful to Chiesa and Motta. Beppe I get you’re reporting the news and I thank you for that but it’s not emotions or believing only what we want it’s simply nonsensical to make such bold statements for someone who hasn’t even stepped into the role let alone being announced as the next gaffer…
I have some points to bring up on this video. 1. Why compare chiesa to odgard a ndoye? Why not orsolini? I think chiesa can put up orsolini numbers in his system. Also go back to look at Chiesa under Pirlo, his defensive work rate was massive always getting back. 2. I do like koopminers but 40-60 mill is too much Juventus should shift their attention to thuram he will be cheaper and younger. 3. I love bremer but I do not think bremer is that good on the ball and Thiago likes to play possession based soccer passing out the back and I think Bremer could struggle in that which is why I am a little surprised he wants to keep bremer. 4. I agree with the sacrifice of Dean huijsen. I don’t love gatti (and think a similar thought with him and above bremer)but we need to cash in on some players and huijsen is a good cash in. 4. I do not think it’s smart to let Soule leave we are going to play 50-60 games next szn we need more then chiesa, Dusan, yildiz and Soule to play and win this games so why sell 1 or even 2 of them (chiesa & Soule) then we don’t have enough up top even if we bring in gudmonson. 5. I know Motta loves rabiot but I would let him go for free. I know he is a solid player but I think his time at Juventus run its course and letting him Leave will free up a spot to unlock locatelli. I know this is a lot ! Let me know your thoughts on this beppe !!
You’re actually right. I forgot to mention Orsolini. (I did in the telegram group) Orsolini who is much more similar to Chiesa…. Well he started only 50% of the games with Motta 😬
@@9127aljo its not Fagioli is way better...but u dont have to buy soule and if you sell soule IT makes no sense to use that money for someone who costs the same AS soule...if soule leaves for 35+-..they use that money to buy a winger for 20mil so they can use the rest of the money in other positions...gudmundson on the right makes no sense..only if he plays behind Vlahovic in 4231..in Koopmeiners place...i would have loca as a sub for rabiot
comparing Chiesa to Ndoye and Gudmonsson is pure madness - everyone was absolutely awful for the past 6 month and we are trying to push Chiesa out of the club - the same BS we did with Dybala - if we plan to sell Chiesa then just sell him but please don't make such comparisons - they are just disrespectful
You didn’t understand the video. I don’t know how I need to explain it better than explicitly say NOBODY is comparing them as individuals but the way they were played in a system. Ps: I firmly believe that separating ways with Dybala is one of the best decisions Juventus made in the last 5 years.
@@GJustjuve Gissupe first thanks for your reply - 2nd the media is strongly is pushing Chiesa out of Juve - Motta is not even on Juve's bench and the rumors are out there that he doesn't want chiesa - he has done wonders using Salemakers and Orsolini which are not even close to Chiesa but out of a sudden he doesn't like him!! - regarding the stats we can't really follow the stats - they are quite misleading - as you mentioned the system we play and and everything - Chiesa has been far from perfect but the whole team is out of shape and I would for sure bet on him - the only reason to sell chiesa is that he doesn't agree to renew .... Regarding Dybala renewal, I know he was injury prone and everything and I was ok to let him go - but we never had a plan to replace him !! we struggled with creativity big time during our past two years which is quite annoying!! - again thanks for your response and have a good day bro
I love chiesa man i believe in him so badly. Chiesa is a generational talent I understand the potential tsctical difficulties but it would so heartbreaking if he left 😢
I love Chiesa too but come on guys, we all know what he is about, he does his own thing at his own tempo . That's why he is so good in international play . I am not surprised at all Motta doesn't even want to try with him . I do think given our money we cannot possibly buy that much talent back so Motta should at least try to make it work. But the guys saying Chiesa is a good fit for Motta, I don't know what you guys mean
Beppe Dont you think that Huijsein can be like a Calafiori, Huijsein can go up and he could Thiago Motta’s tasks in the future + if we don’t get Calafiori, he could be the one
Juventus is bigger than any player and personally i do not get attached as much with players since ADP left. I have to say that Chiesa is the ONLY player in the team that i consider a WORLD CLASS. He is gifted as talent and has a very good smell for goal. We are not gonna compare Chiesa with some players that i haven’t heard before. Every one can have a good season (like Khéphren Thuram) and then they disappear. Chiesa has been there in a very bad Allegri team. He had a major injury and that kept him little off mentally, but we can’t doubt his talent and passion. If we need to sell him to make funds for the market, than is a different story. If we have to sacrifice someone, and that someone is Chiesa then it is what it is 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️. And at the other hand, we don’t know if he wants to renew his contract. Conclusion is that if we need to have a team to win we need to have big players to lead. If we have to get rid one of them and keep the rest, im OK. But if we sell another big player i will be very disappointed and upset with the management.
Clear ideas are what we've been missing these past few years. No matter who is our couch, or who is playing for us I'm going to support Juventus FINO ALLA FINE, but I really hope all the decisions that we are going to take these next few months are going to be good ones. 🙏
I just refuse to believe a gifted player like Chiesa doesn’t fit Motta’s system, you don’t need 11 tactical disciplined men, it’s good to have an instinct player like him. As you said, I hope he sees the quality of Fede and be convinced to work with him. Maybe he will remember his days at Barcelona with a teammate like Ronaldinho who surely wasn’t a tactical disciplined guy and still was the stand-out element of the squad.
In today's football filled with systematic tactics, you need a flair player to threaten the opponent single handedly- it is vital. Vini and Rodrygo at Madrid, Yamal at Barca, Wirtz at Leverkusen, Musiala at Bayern, Diaz at Liverpool, Doku at City, Lino at Atletico, Sancho at Dortmund. We must hold onto Chiesa.
Would be very sad if Nicoloussi will leave.From the other side I won't be very upset if we let Miretti to go to Bologna especially as,a part deal for Calafiori
Beppe, Did you notice that not one Juventus or a prospective Juve player is included in the OPTA selected midfield lineup? I know that Koopmeiners is expensive but we need to invest in TOP central midfielders.
I think Chiesa under Motta would be fantastic. Wherever he goes next he will make us regret unfortunately. Of course nothing is certain and based off what we saw maybe it’s right we should move on from Chiesa. For me I would see how Chiesa does in the Euros. If he does amazing which I fully expect him to do we keep him. Not cash in.
Motta must work with our best player and probably the only star player we have to fix his moves and makes him suitable for his tactics for at least try it for 1 season before making this kind of final decision. This is my only take! This is Chiesa he is not difficult to sell, expand his contract and try him for a season before making this kind of irresponsible bias decision!
40 mil budget + 30 from Hujsen + 30 from Soule + 10 from Kean + 5 from Milik + 20 from McKennie + 40 from Chiesa = +-175 mil for transfers 20 Mill for Di Grigorio 25 Mill for Calafiori 50 Mill for Koopmainers 30 Mill For Gudmundson 40 Mill For Zirkze 15 Mill for Di Lorenzo maybe this is the idea, but we gonna need least one more player for front line Left/right wing!
All of the analysis is tactics related “Allegri”. The media is doing to Chiesa what they did to Dybala etc.. Also comparing a star to unknown players? What? Anyways I hope he stays and I’m 100% sure he will be a monster with Motta
Wow! One of the best tactical videos on Chiesa! More of this Beppe please for stupid people like me) I love Chiesa! But what if we extend him now and give him next season to try! And if not working we would sell (to my sadness)
I trust Thiago and Giuntoli. And if they see that Chiesa is not suitable for Motta's tactics, I dont mind if he will be sold. This doesnt mean that I will not be sad seeing Chiesa leaving Juventus. But the club's interest is what matters.
I've been Juve fan since 1999. I was watchinh Juve vs MU in champion Cup semi final 2nd leg and i'm in love since then. As long as i remember from 1999 till now, Juve always has italian coach (except in 2006 the hell year when Deschamp came to help). I am jus a fan from asian,is it really a tradition in Juventus to always have an Italian coach ? I'm just curious, because there is one name that i always want to come back to Juve , and it's Zidane. Forza Juve.
Chiesa can definitely play in Motta system, he will be better than the Motta’s players at Bologna. Dude is explosive! Well, if Juve don’t want him, Milan can use him 😅…Leao, Pullisic, Chiesa.
So beppe from your analysis and so much praises you shower on Motta, it means Chiesa should leave right? We shall see how this spans out to be with all Guintollis choices since he joined the club.
Chiesa on the pitch for us is probably the only player that invokes fear in defenders ...there's no body else thar defenders will think is he playing ?? Itl be more like gudmonsson who ??
Riccardo Orsolini was playing almost every game with Bologna dont tell me that Chiesa cant play under Motta its crazy , also we cant sell Soule Huijsen and also Chiesa
Orsolini only started 19 matches in Serie A this season, with 14 appearances off the bench, only 1789 minutes in his 33 appearances, that's 12th most in the Bologna squad (only 13 minutes more than Ndoye, the other RW in the squad)...so Beppe does have a point there...but also I see Chiesa as being far more versatile than Orsolini, so I don't think it's a direct comparison personally...I think Chiesa can be far more useful to Motta than Orsolini was. But time will tell.
The only thing we know right now about how Guintoli conducts his business is that it’s highly secretive, the few moves he did make were nones radar… so take it all with a grain of salt. Trust the management team to do the right thing, if you want to buy into rumours then enjoy it, it’s entertainment but for me that’s all it is. I’ll stick to the facts and wait to see who starting next August.
I would not spend 60M on a midfielder when losing Pogba and potentially Rabiot and McKennie. We need numbers and physicality with Yildiz and Fagioli being more creative
Forget the stats who can change a game ...chiesa can change a game in a split ...ndoye and Edmonsson cannot ..they might fit well in a system but they can't influence a game the way chiesa can
That’s my point it’s not JUST Chiesa on the Market every player can be sold by the club. Motta is making a massive mistake to be happy if Chiesa leaves just he doesn’t believe Chiesa will fit his system with out giving Chiesa an opportunity. Beppe Chiesa is too good to be sold atm.
Finding it hard to imagine that we are talking about a new era with high hopes while discussing an option to sell Chiesa how ironical. It’s complete nonsense. Chiesa is the best player of the league, you can’t get any other player closer to him. If Tiago cannot cope with Chiesa then no need to bring him. Chiesa should be the man we should build our team around. On the other hand Juv should sell Vlahovic, Rabio, Makeni, Rugani. Problem buy Thomas Partly and Camara from Monaco for the midfield.
Choosing who will come/go based on OPTA score is ridiculously stupid. Especially based on one season. Chiesa is way better than Gudmunsson for an instance. Beppe, these are not emotions, this is pure logic and facts. We have to keep the italian players in the team, especially someone who can easily become one of the best forwards under Motta.
“We have to keep the Italian players in the team” is probably the most emotion based and less fact based statement someone can write. Regarding Chiesa.. who said Gudmundsson was better than him? Not me. Not Opta. We speak about functionality and characteristics that are probably matching an idea of football more than another.
@@GJustjuve Beppe, I am not saying to keep all the italian players, but selling someone who has a world class potential, before Motta even tests him for me is ridiculous. You did not said that, but apparently it seems like OPTA is one of the main parameters. Motta has to change his style, especially his demands from the forwards, because he is not anymore in Bologna. This is Juve and that style will not work here.
@@GJustjuve Beppe, of course it will be a new style, and he will implement his ideas, but it will not be and cannot be identical with what he applied in Bologna, simply because Juve is not Bologna. I am excited because it should be much better with him, but getting rid of Chiesa doesn't make sense to me.
Every video i see now from you Beppe is just make me feel like yeah this 2024-2025 is going just worse and worse and Motta is not yet Official at us! i will wait as i said, to August!! Mercato so far is feeling Meh! the Hype did die after hearing u saying Motta want to sell Chiesa or so! i rather sell get ridd of the youngster then him! this Mercato for me is not Giountoli its Motta im judiging if he comes as if he fails this seasion i will not stand by him! the taste all ready bad and he is not offical yet! the "Exiting times ahead" did just die for me, Gudmonsson? (facepalm) i will expect Scudetto and Coppa win from Motta and we going far in CL and World Cup for clubs, if he can't do that i will blame him and im going with #MottaOut direct if he can't win that that is the minimum requirement for me, if he sells Chiesa im not giving him more then 2024-2025!! im not even happy for Di Gregoria or Calafiori as i was before! im reserved to Motta and will look at the mercato and him with sceptical eyes, everything Mercato feel just bad and anoying (just want the Mercato to end and it has not even start yet) right now Motta feels like a Merdazzurri inside man working for them from the inside! to destory Juventus! that is the feeling i have You are doing geat work beppe and i love normal all your videos and live, just the lates (and its not even your fault its the information i hear from you that comes from other anti-Juve and people) i will see if im going to watch Juve next year or so but be sure im going to be here, and talk to u! even if i skip Juve 2024-2025 aswell! im going to be on stand by till i know everything! as 3 years of disappointment i felt was finally over and then BAM1!!! everything feel's like it is still not there yet the taste is just bad! i rather sell Soule Huijsen Miretti who ever we need to keep Chiesa!
I understand what you write. Happy that you make a split between what I say and what’s reported by media. In the other side, you should never be influenced by mercato rumours. Watch my video called “mercato for dummies” from a season or two ago. Important is not who comes or go. Important is to have a stronger TEAM. And that’s what Juventus is trying to do
@@GJustjuve Yeah i never ever will blame u Beppe its not u am angry at is the darn talk on papers! problem is i want to watch ur videos as i love them but same time i want to skip them to August (mercato is over) cause all the new coming! i was so happy after the first Montero Match, i had high hopes and i did plan to get a Chiesa and Fagioli Jersey from Juve store, now im not sure anymore! I normally HATE Mercato i have done it for Years this was the first year in like 18 years i was exited and looking forward to the Mercato! yeah will have a look at them videos might help me! but if i was a fan of City or Real life would been so much easier XD as u always can offer and get almost all the best players we can't and its sad for us fans but i was down at Serie B with Juve during them time! just wish Juve didn't need to get rid of Chiesa
@@GJustjuve just to make sure u know I LOVE YOU beppe and your work! never ever doubt that! i will always try my hardest to support u and be here if i can even if i would not watch Juve im here
So you want to sell the one creative spark in a boring Juventus side,a guy called Chiesa who is quick and inventive and you want to keep Vlahovic, a box finisher who has blown hot and cold and has missed chances.why is football such a difficult game.I thought it was supposed to be simple.the stats don't show that Chiesa was playing for a lumbering Juve side that was slow in possession and lacking confidence.put him with lets say a Inter Milan side and you will see how effective he can be.
Beppe your love for Motta has really blinded you in all aspects of things, you talk as if Motta is Guardiolla and Ancelloti, i wish Motta well in all his decisions but if his decision affects the club, i will rest my case
I would love Chiesa to stay! I pray he stays! I think it’s the best for him and us that he stays. Buuuuuuut no, Chiesa is NOT the face of Juve. No player is. No coach is. Players, people come and go Juventus stay. As long as we think players are Bigger than the club we are wrong
@@GJustjuve But he didn't say that Chiesa it's bigger than Juventus all of the team have a face , even Juventus have had always one , Del Piero, Buffon, Chiellini, Dybala, Ronaldo etc . And all the clubs look now Haland at Man . City, Yamal at Barcelona, Mbappe at Psg now at Real so it's will always be like that. I am not saying that this players are bigger than the club never. Juventus will always be bigger than any name but Chiesa It's the face of this Juventus, probably next year Ylidiz will be . I really want Chiesa to stay I don't believe that Mota its not able to make him part of his tactic or to improve him, but if he has to go with the guaranty that we will see a better Juventus than he can go.
@GJustjuve but at some point an organization has a person who is representing it, for this Juve Chiesa is that guy. I am not saying Chiesa or any player is bigger than Juve. Juve is Juve but you have a player who is the face, and imo Chiesa at the moment is the face, then ofc i can be wrong...
I appreciate your positivity regarding Cristiano Giuntoli, but our new Sporting Director has been a total disaster so far. Wasting millions of euro on ridiculous additions to the squad. He was hostile to the previous team manager and he bares significant responsibility for the collapse in the teams performance in 2024. The Sporting Director needs to work with the manager not against him. Motta has a very difficult period ahead.
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Beppe when you have a gifted player as Chiesa he can fit in any system or style. A lot of Juventus players have had poor stats this season. Yildiz is going to be a champion player but he is not there yet. Juventus should extend until 2026 and Motta should give Chiesa a chance to see if he fits in his system and style in a 2-7-2 formation. Who knows Chiesa might have his best season under Motta. I guess it’s up to Motta as the coach.
I don’t believe the news report. Are we to believe that Salemakers and Orsolini can fit on a Motta team but Chiesa cant?😂
@@michaelgagliardi3332 Few seasons ago J.M. Serri was perfect sub for Busquest by those experts...
so now every formation with fullbacks and wingers is 2-7-2? lol
Motta must adjust his tactics to fit Chiesa in.He is world class.There are barely any wingers in the world who are better
I don’t believe the news report. Are we to believe that Salemakers and Orsolini can fit on a Motta team but Chiesa cant?😂
100% agree
He doesn't need to adjust anything. Chiesa fits directly with what he wants to do. This report is either false, or Motta has some petty issue with Chiesa personally.
@@lennoxdantes Totally agree. Does anyone think that Salemaakers and Orsolini were able to adjust but Chiesa cannot?
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Good analysis 👌🏻👏🏻
The Chiesa news is just reporting the trend in his past performances. That doesn't mean he cannot upgrade his game and adapt to a new way of playing in addition to his instinct. We have seen players in the past adapt their game and excel in their new roles. Mandzukic to play with Higuain played as a left winger and that change made fans love him.
I bet Chiesa is hearing all this news and might show signs of change during the EUROs to convince Motta. With his relationship with the fans and finally gaining physical and mental fitness, I believe Chiesa would love to stay to achieve more titles with Juve before leaving to another big team of his preference.
But then comes the mercato issue with the funds and contract renewals and salary cap. Can Soulé and Huijsen bring much needed cash?
Does Milik and Kean leaving with Morata coming back resolve the attacking department? Morata is not for free 🤔
Let's see how things develop.
We as fans have no real say in this.
Soule and Huijsen should be able to bring us 50-60 million. Kostic, Kean, Mckennie, Milik, Danilo should bring us another 10-20 million. Then we also have 52.5 million already. I really don't see the need to sell Chiesa
Its all about tactics. You can not prove me that Chiesa is not faster, especially in the offensive part than these two.
He can adapt easily to Motta's tactics. And how can he erase him from the squad, if he doesn't give him a chance. Did he know if Odgaard or Ndoye would perform like that before joining Bologna? Of course not.
For me this is just an excuse for them to sell Chiesa for big money and to finance the upcoming mercato.
I respect the analysis but I’m sorry to say it’s hard to compare players playing in two totally different systems and players.. Kostic was useless this year we saw every time they were playing together it was a disaster…. The entire team had no idea what to do in the offensive phase Allegri wasn’t enforcing any patters of play offensively where Motta was very specific on what to do during the build up as well as defensively. Guys it’s not emotional it’s just plain stupidity to think that Motta who wasn’t even announced as coach who hasn’t even stepped into la Continasa already had dismissed a player like Chiesa whom would be starting in pretty much and Serie A side…. He’s over his injury woes both metal and physical, moving him now would be stupid. This is just a narrative created by the media to make headline and borderline disrespectful to Chiesa and Motta. Beppe I get you’re reporting the news and I thank you for that but it’s not emotions or believing only what we want it’s simply nonsensical to make such bold statements for someone who hasn’t even stepped into the role let alone being announced as the next gaffer…
I totally agree. Motta might come and horribly fail!
I will laugh if Conte gets announced on June 1st
I have some points to bring up on this video.
1. Why compare chiesa to odgard a ndoye? Why not orsolini? I think chiesa can put up orsolini numbers in his system. Also go back to look at Chiesa under Pirlo, his defensive work rate was massive always getting back.
2. I do like koopminers but 40-60 mill is too much Juventus should shift their attention to thuram he will be cheaper and younger.
3. I love bremer but I do not think bremer is that good on the ball and Thiago likes to play possession based soccer passing out the back and I think Bremer could struggle in that which is why I am a little surprised he wants to keep bremer.
4. I agree with the sacrifice of Dean huijsen. I don’t love gatti (and think a similar thought with him and above bremer)but we need to cash in on some players and huijsen is a good cash in.
4. I do not think it’s smart to let Soule leave we are going to play 50-60 games next szn we need more then chiesa, Dusan, yildiz and Soule to play and win this games so why sell 1 or even 2 of them (chiesa & Soule) then we don’t have enough up top even if we bring in gudmonson.
5. I know Motta loves rabiot but I would let him go for free. I know he is a solid player but I think his time at Juventus run its course and letting him Leave will free up a spot to unlock locatelli.
I know this is a lot ! Let me know your thoughts on this beppe !!
You’re actually right. I forgot to mention Orsolini. (I did in the telegram group)
Orsolini who is much more similar to Chiesa…. Well he started only 50% of the games with Motta 😬
Fantastic video Beppe
Vlahovic
Yildiz-Koopmeiners-Gudmundsson
Rabiot-Locatelli
Cambiaso-Calafiori-Bremer-Di Lorenzo
Di Gregorio
Who says no?
me...loca on bench for fagioli and gudmundsson for soule or zhergova..( if chiesa leaves )
@@pavolsopa2136 Gudmundsson is really good. I would keep him in the XI. I agree with you with Fagioli > Locatelli but its a close call.
@@9127aljo its not Fagioli is way better...but u dont have to buy soule and if you sell soule IT makes no sense to use that money for someone who costs the same AS soule...if soule leaves for 35+-..they use that money to buy a winger for 20mil so they can use the rest of the money in other positions...gudmundson on the right makes no sense..only if he plays behind Vlahovic in 4231..in Koopmeiners place...i would have loca as a sub for rabiot
comparing Chiesa to Ndoye and Gudmonsson is pure madness - everyone was absolutely awful for the past 6 month and we are trying to push Chiesa out of the club - the same BS we did with Dybala - if we plan to sell Chiesa then just sell him but please don't make such comparisons - they are just disrespectful
You didn’t understand the video. I don’t know how I need to explain it better than explicitly say NOBODY is comparing them as individuals but the way they were played in a system.
Ps: I firmly believe that separating ways with Dybala is one of the best decisions Juventus made in the last 5 years.
@@GJustjuve Gissupe first thanks for your reply - 2nd the media is strongly is pushing Chiesa out of Juve - Motta is not even on Juve's bench and the rumors are out there that he doesn't want chiesa - he has done wonders using Salemakers and Orsolini which are not even close to Chiesa but out of a sudden he doesn't like him!! - regarding the stats we can't really follow the stats - they are quite misleading - as you mentioned the system we play and and everything - Chiesa has been far from perfect but the whole team is out of shape and I would for sure bet on him - the only reason to sell chiesa is that he doesn't agree to renew .... Regarding Dybala renewal, I know he was injury prone and everything and I was ok to let him go - but we never had a plan to replace him !! we struggled with creativity big time during our past two years which is quite annoying!! - again thanks for your response and have a good day bro
I love chiesa man i believe in him so badly. Chiesa is a generational talent I understand the potential tsctical difficulties but it would so heartbreaking if he left 😢
I love Chiesa too but come on guys, we all know what he is about, he does his own thing at his own tempo . That's why he is so good in international play . I am not surprised at all Motta doesn't even want to try with him . I do think given our money we cannot possibly buy that much talent back so Motta should at least try to make it work. But the guys saying Chiesa is a good fit for Motta, I don't know what you guys mean
Beppe Dont you think that Huijsein can be like a Calafiori, Huijsein can go up and he could Thiago Motta’s tasks in the future + if we don’t get Calafiori, he could be the one
The TS article doesn't show anything conclusive, but it's a great one. I wish papers published articles of this level daily instead of the usual.
That’s exactly it! There are no conclusions but it’s football talk.
Juventus is bigger than any player and personally i do not get attached as much with players since ADP left. I have to say that Chiesa is the ONLY player in the team that i consider a WORLD CLASS. He is gifted as talent and has a very good smell for goal. We are not gonna compare Chiesa with some players that i haven’t heard before. Every one can have a good season (like Khéphren Thuram) and then they disappear. Chiesa has been there in a very bad Allegri team. He had a major injury and that kept him little off mentally, but we can’t doubt his talent and passion.
If we need to sell him to make funds for the market, than is a different story. If we have to sacrifice someone, and that someone is Chiesa then it is what it is 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️. And at the other hand, we don’t know if he wants to renew his contract.
Conclusion is that if we need to have a team to win we need to have big players to lead. If we have to get rid one of them and keep the rest, im OK. But if we sell another big player i will be very disappointed and upset with the management.
Chiesa is a one man offense when he's fit and we dont have the money to replace this level of talent , I agree
Clear ideas are what we've been missing these past few years. No matter who is our couch, or who is playing for us I'm going to support Juventus FINO ALLA FINE, but I really hope all the decisions that we are going to take these next few months are going to be good ones. 🙏
Excellent video, as always Beppe, fantastic work!
Gracias Pueblo 🫶
Excellent analysis Beppe! Exciting times ahead...
If Liverpool put 60 mil on the table, I'm OK with that, bringing Gudmundsson is a good deal 👍, Or maybe go for Lookman
Agree but we always get low balled by EPL teams.
I just refuse to believe a gifted player like Chiesa doesn’t fit Motta’s system, you don’t need 11 tactical disciplined men, it’s good to have an instinct player like him. As you said, I hope he sees the quality of Fede and be convinced to work with him. Maybe he will remember his days at Barcelona with a teammate like Ronaldinho who surely wasn’t a tactical disciplined guy and still was the stand-out element of the squad.
Great video Beppe! 🤩
Juventus management preferred to get Weah over Bellanova 🤡
Lol clowns fr
Exactly thank you!
Thats Guintolli for you always making wrong choices, choosing Motta over Conte, Motta says he doesnt want Chiesa lol, we shall see
@@mfonmbatt6235 Motta was the best choice possible
Good and clear analysis Beppe❤
Chiesa will not leave. Regardless of what motta thinks
Perfect video 10/10, Grande Beppe
In today's football filled with systematic tactics, you need a flair player to threaten the opponent single handedly- it is vital. Vini and Rodrygo at Madrid, Yamal at Barca, Wirtz at Leverkusen, Musiala at Bayern, Diaz at Liverpool, Doku at City, Lino at Atletico, Sancho at Dortmund. We must hold onto Chiesa.
Would be very sad if Nicoloussi will leave.From the other side I won't be very upset if we let Miretti to go to Bologna especially as,a part deal for Calafiori
Beppe am always thinking about Adzic. What will Tiago Motta do with him.
Beppe, Did you notice that not one Juventus or a prospective Juve player is included in the OPTA selected midfield lineup? I know that Koopmeiners is expensive but we need to invest in TOP central midfielders.
Love the fact with giuntoli we did our transfer business early
We did nothing
@@Djohnny91 what about di gregorio ?
@@DenisB.-gz8yl not officiall
@@Djohnny91 romano said it. so its official
@@-keiskx1774Romano said the same about Felipe Anderson, but he didn't come
I think Chiesa under Motta would be fantastic. Wherever he goes next he will make us regret unfortunately. Of course nothing is certain and based off what we saw maybe it’s right we should move on from Chiesa. For me I would see how Chiesa does in the Euros. If he does amazing which I fully expect him to do we keep him. Not cash in.
Motta must work with our best player and probably the only star player we have to fix his moves and makes him suitable for his tactics for at least try it for 1 season before making this kind of final decision. This is my only take! This is Chiesa he is not difficult to sell, expand his contract and try him for a season before making this kind of irresponsible bias decision!
I love the food Giuntoli is cooking👌👌 Questo cibo è da leccarsi i baffi! 🤌🤌
40 mil budget
+ 30 from Hujsen
+ 30 from Soule
+ 10 from Kean
+ 5 from Milik
+ 20 from McKennie
+ 40 from Chiesa
= +-175 mil for transfers
20 Mill for Di Grigorio
25 Mill for Calafiori
50 Mill for Koopmainers
30 Mill For Gudmundson
40 Mill For Zirkze
15 Mill for Di Lorenzo
maybe this is the idea, but we gonna need least one more player for front line Left/right wing!
All of the analysis is tactics related “Allegri”. The media is doing to Chiesa what they did to Dybala etc.. Also comparing a star to unknown players? What? Anyways I hope he stays and I’m 100% sure he will be a monster with Motta
Wow! One of the best tactical videos on Chiesa! More of this Beppe please for stupid people like me)
I love Chiesa! But what if we extend him now and give him next season to try! And if not working we would sell (to my sadness)
I trust Thiago and Giuntoli. And if they see that Chiesa is not suitable for Motta's tactics, I dont mind if he will be sold. This doesnt mean that I will not be sad seeing Chiesa leaving Juventus. But the club's interest is what matters.
We talk about selling Fede and we keep dusan and locateli that sucks !
I've been Juve fan since 1999. I was watchinh Juve vs MU in champion Cup semi final 2nd leg and i'm in love since then.
As long as i remember from 1999 till now, Juve always has italian coach (except in 2006 the hell year when Deschamp came to help). I am jus a fan from asian,is it really a tradition in Juventus to always have an Italian coach ?
I'm just curious, because there is one name that i always want to come back to Juve , and it's Zidane.
Forza Juve.
Chiesa is wide because Allergi told him to play so. That’s it.
No. He was asked to play centrally. You know it
How does he compare to Salemakers and Orsolini?
Chiesa can definitely play in Motta system, he will be better than the Motta’s players at Bologna. Dude is explosive! Well, if Juve don’t want him, Milan can use him 😅…Leao, Pullisic, Chiesa.
Beppe, om thursday, you Will have 30k 😊
So beppe from your analysis and so much praises you shower on Motta, it means Chiesa should leave right? We shall see how this spans out to be with all Guintollis choices since he joined the club.
But if gudmundson or zirkzee are behind Vlahovic and Kenan and soule on the wings is Fagioli with rabiot in mitfield not to offensiv ?
Good work, Beppe. More lucidity less memes, I like that :)
Memes?
@@GJustjuve, it's an old tg story ... :)
Chiesa on the pitch for us is probably the only player that invokes fear in defenders ...there's no body else thar defenders will think is he playing ?? Itl be more like gudmonsson who ??
Maybe those other players are faster in average but pure speed, explosion, there is no other player in Italy better than Chiesa.
chiesa is not as fast as he was
Riccardo Orsolini was playing almost every game with Bologna dont tell me that Chiesa cant play under Motta its crazy , also we cant sell Soule Huijsen and also Chiesa
Orsolini only started 19 matches in Serie A this season, with 14 appearances off the bench, only 1789 minutes in his 33 appearances, that's 12th most in the Bologna squad (only 13 minutes more than Ndoye, the other RW in the squad)...so Beppe does have a point there...but also I see Chiesa as being far more versatile than Orsolini, so I don't think it's a direct comparison personally...I think Chiesa can be far more useful to Motta than Orsolini was. But time will tell.
Why not Keane for Calafiori?
Does Di Gregorio play well with his feet from the back?
The only thing we know right now about how Guintoli conducts his business is that it’s highly secretive, the few moves he did make were nones radar… so take it all with a grain of salt. Trust the management team to do the right thing, if you want to buy into rumours then enjoy it, it’s entertainment but for me that’s all it is. I’ll stick to the facts and wait to see who starting next August.
really would like for us to buy back CM like a matuidi
I really like milik as a vice vlahovic
There is no way you can say any player is "not in the plans of Motta", Motta has not yet even arrived...
I would not spend 60M on a midfielder when losing Pogba and potentially Rabiot and McKennie. We need numbers and physicality with Yildiz and Fagioli being more creative
It would also be putting all your eggs in one basket with fitness and injury concerns. Betting a lot on Koopmeiners staying healthy
Forget the stats who can change a game ...chiesa can change a game in a split ...ndoye and Edmonsson cannot ..they might fit well in a system but they can't influence a game the way chiesa can
Would you buy soule for 35-40? No so sell sell sell. Keep chiesa if possible. Don’t overpay. Not young anymore
Miretti on loan only
Agreed, selling him would be a mistake, I still believe that Miretti has the ability to be a really good player
Beppe, you think could huijsen go to Bologna to replace califiore? Yes, milik to Bologna is good
I'm expecting Calafiori before the Euros, because his price most certainly will rise
It will happen after Euros, like Locatelli deal 3 years ago
I still feel we are being linked with players who are not Juve calibre. We will see!!
I don’t want gundmosson with his off the field troubles
If we change chiesa for gudmonson will be a big regrets
I prefer Gudmundsson more than Chiesa. He's the type of front player that we need.
Ps i am hearing rumours Bremer could still be leaving even if Motta wants him to stay. .
Of course. Big offer = On the market. For everyone. That’s the situation we are in
That’s my point it’s not JUST Chiesa on the Market every player can be sold by the club. Motta is making a massive mistake to be happy if Chiesa leaves just he doesn’t believe Chiesa will fit his system with out giving Chiesa an opportunity. Beppe Chiesa is too good to be sold atm.
Superrrr PEPEEEE❤️
Well if chiesa doesn’t extend than I agree he doesn’t fit in mottas line up …
Finding it hard to imagine that we are talking about a new era with high hopes while discussing an option to sell Chiesa how ironical. It’s complete nonsense. Chiesa is the best player of the league, you can’t get any other player closer to him. If Tiago cannot cope with Chiesa then no need to bring him. Chiesa should be the man we should build our team around. On the other hand Juv should sell Vlahovic, Rabio, Makeni, Rugani. Problem buy Thomas Partly and Camara from Monaco for the midfield.
No vlahovic on the untouchables ??
29,8 k ---> 30k 😍🥳🤩
Lol in fifa manager mode I traded Milik for Zirkzee
Beppe what does Juventus mean in Italian ? 😜
Locatelli have to leave to spare some money
Choosing who will come/go based on OPTA score is ridiculously stupid. Especially based on one season. Chiesa is way better than Gudmunsson for an instance.
Beppe, these are not emotions, this is pure logic and facts. We have to keep the italian players in the team, especially someone who can easily become one of the best forwards under Motta.
“We have to keep the Italian players in the team” is probably the most emotion based and less fact based statement someone can write.
Regarding Chiesa.. who said Gudmundsson was better than him? Not me. Not Opta. We speak about functionality and characteristics that are probably matching an idea of football more than another.
@@GJustjuve Beppe, I am not saying to keep all the italian players, but selling someone who has a world class potential, before Motta even tests him for me is ridiculous.
You did not said that, but apparently it seems like OPTA is one of the main parameters. Motta has to change his style, especially his demands from the forwards, because he is not anymore in Bologna. This is Juve and that style will not work here.
Why would we sack Allegri and going for Motta if we don’t want Motta to implement his football. It makes no sense.
@@GJustjuve Beppe, of course it will be a new style, and he will implement his ideas, but it will not be and cannot be identical with what he applied in Bologna, simply because Juve is not Bologna. I am excited because it should be much better with him, but getting rid of Chiesa doesn't make sense to me.
Sell Bremer of Vlahovic. They will get us more money and they are easier to replace. We need yo keep talented Italian players.
Selling chiesa for gudmonson who agree with that that's lowering our quality
Ciao beppe
I don’t believe the news report. Are we to believe that Salemakers and Orsolini can fit on a Motta team but Chiesa cant?😂
I'm not sure i like the fact that juve always steals the best players and coaches of serie a.
Every video i see now from you Beppe is just make me feel like yeah this 2024-2025 is going just worse and worse and Motta is not yet Official at us! i will wait as i said, to August!! Mercato so far is feeling Meh! the Hype did die after hearing u saying Motta want to sell Chiesa or so! i rather sell get ridd of the youngster then him! this Mercato for me is not Giountoli its Motta im judiging if he comes as if he fails this seasion i will not stand by him! the taste all ready bad and he is not offical yet! the "Exiting times ahead" did just die for me, Gudmonsson? (facepalm) i will expect Scudetto and Coppa win from Motta and we going far in CL and World Cup for clubs, if he can't do that i will blame him and im going with #MottaOut direct if he can't win that that is the minimum requirement for me, if he sells Chiesa im not giving him more then 2024-2025!!
im not even happy for Di Gregoria or Calafiori as i was before! im reserved to Motta and will look at the mercato and him with sceptical eyes, everything Mercato feel just bad and anoying (just want the Mercato to end and it has not even start yet) right now Motta feels like a Merdazzurri inside man working for them from the inside! to destory Juventus! that is the feeling i have
You are doing geat work beppe and i love normal all your videos and live, just the lates (and its not even your fault its the information i hear from you that comes from other anti-Juve and people) i will see if im going to watch Juve next year or so but be sure im going to be here, and talk to u! even if i skip Juve 2024-2025 aswell! im going to be on stand by till i know everything! as 3 years of disappointment i felt was finally over and then BAM1!!! everything feel's like it is still not there yet the taste is just bad! i rather sell Soule Huijsen Miretti who ever we need to keep Chiesa!
I understand what you write. Happy that you make a split between what I say and what’s reported by media.
In the other side, you should never be influenced by mercato rumours. Watch my video called “mercato for dummies” from a season or two ago. Important is not who comes or go. Important is to have a stronger TEAM. And that’s what Juventus is trying to do
@@GJustjuve Yeah i never ever will blame u Beppe its not u am angry at is the darn talk on papers! problem is i want to watch ur videos as i love them but same time i want to skip them to August (mercato is over) cause all the new coming! i was so happy after the first Montero Match, i had high hopes and i did plan to get a Chiesa and Fagioli Jersey from Juve store, now im not sure anymore! I normally HATE Mercato i have done it for Years this was the first year in like 18 years i was exited and looking forward to the Mercato!
yeah will have a look at them videos might help me! but if i was a fan of City or Real life would been so much easier XD as u always can offer and get almost all the best players we can't and its sad for us fans but i was down at Serie B with Juve during them time! just wish Juve didn't need to get rid of Chiesa
@@GJustjuve just to make sure u know I LOVE YOU beppe and your work! never ever doubt that! i will always try my hardest to support u and be here if i can even if i would not watch Juve im here
So you want to sell the one creative spark in a boring Juventus side,a guy called Chiesa who is quick and inventive and you want to keep Vlahovic, a box finisher who has blown hot and cold and has missed chances.why is football such a difficult game.I thought it was supposed to be simple.the stats don't show that Chiesa was playing for a lumbering Juve side that was slow in possession and lacking confidence.put him with lets say a Inter Milan side and you will see how effective he can be.
Beppe your love for Motta has really blinded you in all aspects of things, you talk as if Motta is Guardiolla and Ancelloti, i wish Motta well in all his decisions but if his decision affects the club, i will rest my case
I thought people would start to point me out as a “Thiago Motter” after the first 3 games of the new season. It went much faster 😅
Chiesa is the face of this Juve, Motta will have to fit him
I would love Chiesa to stay! I pray he stays! I think it’s the best for him and us that he stays. Buuuuuuut no, Chiesa is NOT the face of Juve. No player is. No coach is. Players, people come and go Juventus stay. As long as we think players are Bigger than the club we are wrong
@@GJustjuve But he didn't say that Chiesa it's bigger than Juventus all of the team have a face , even Juventus have had always one , Del Piero, Buffon, Chiellini, Dybala, Ronaldo etc . And all the clubs look now Haland at Man . City, Yamal at Barcelona, Mbappe at Psg now at Real so it's will always be like that. I am not saying that this players are bigger than the club never. Juventus will always be bigger than any name but Chiesa It's the face of this Juventus, probably next year Ylidiz will be . I really want Chiesa to stay I don't believe that Mota its not able to make him part of his tactic or to improve him, but if he has to go with the guaranty that we will see a better Juventus than he can go.
I don’t believe the news report. Are we to believe that Salemakers and Orsolini can fit on a Motta team but Chiesa cant?😂
@GJustjuve but at some point an organization has a person who is representing it, for this Juve Chiesa is that guy. I am not saying Chiesa or any player is bigger than Juve. Juve is Juve but you have a player who is the face, and imo Chiesa at the moment is the face, then ofc i can be wrong...
@@eljohalili6900 exactly
Primo
I appreciate your positivity regarding Cristiano Giuntoli, but our new Sporting Director has been a total disaster so far. Wasting millions of euro on ridiculous additions to the squad. He was hostile to the previous team manager and he bares significant responsibility for the collapse in the teams performance in 2024. The Sporting Director needs to work with the manager not against him. Motta has a very difficult period ahead.
He didnt act yet. How can you evalute him?
Signig Motta, Di Gregorio and soon Calafiori is a masterpiece
@@Esperdaher Cristiano Giuntoli has been our Sporting Director since July 2023. Unfortunately all his moves have been terrible so far.
@@gerokeeffe4014 which moves??? Thiago motta? Di Gregorio? Calafiori? Or Alvarez on loan?
@@gerokeeffe4014 how could he move? With Zero in the bank and knowing Allegri would leave ? Like why people refuse to think about things
Amazing video beppe 🖤🤍 (as always)