This guy's build order is actually VERY CREATIVE! - Bronze League Heroes Episode 38
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Bronze League Heroes is really something else! These players haven't been brainwashed by years of being slaves to the meta, and this Undead player has a very creative build I might just copy in the future!
This guy's build order is actually VERY CREATIVE! (Game played on 15-July-2024)
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Backpack accelerated pitlord creeping is peak ingenuity
That's standard tavern hero start for undead
Naga to FS: you thinking what I’m thinkin partner?
FS: aim for the bushes
😂😂😂😂😂😂 dude this got me loling for a minute str8
There goes my hero...
3:36 imagine being bronze leage player well known to pros as "pitlord guy"
OMG that evolution from not understanding and then seeing the backpack - genius bronze hero!
Why does he need the backpack though?
To get rod of necromancy to the pit lord without having to go home @@Nerobyrne
@@Nerobyrne backpack is used to bring staff of necromancy to the tavern. this way he can get pit from the tavern and go straight for creeping instead of going back to buy the staff
@@Nerobyrne to buy rod and transports on ghoul to tavern pitlord!
My disappoint in Grubby not letting the HU cook first game is immeasurable.
yea you should think about it this way: the guy doesnt make peons for 40 seconds and STILL wins? Must see
Real
my man so free from the shackles of the Meta
Grubby didn't let him em cook 😂
Pit Lord first is so badass. Tutorial4420 might actually climb up a bit if he just goes Necromancers with Unholy Frenzy. Add Meat Wagons on top of that for non-Pit Lord firepower(necro summons), maybe.
Nah just make a wyrm and wait for them to drop their army into your frost, cleave, and towers
lmao that ragequit game 1
kinda rude tbh
@@user-kd2qd1sh3o Yeah dude its bronze league, what does he expect?
Bronze League might actually make me buy Warcraft 3 and play. I'm in Central Asia, but I'm pretty confident W3C has pretty good ping with a lot of the playerbase.
...Uh, maybe you'll see me in a Grubby video? Idk, I may not have enough time to actually go through with the purchase and gameplay.
I played it as a kid and all these vids got me wanting to learn competitive so badly
How much does that cost?
@@SyRose901 The game? Nothing for me as I still had my CD codes but I think it’s around 40 usd. I don’t get the reforged option but I think the classic art style is way cooler anyways
@@Cyrrith I never owned the game, only pirated versions that are always offline. At a LAN party on something like DotA or other custom maps, it's perfect, but I cannot go beyond version 1.27 or go to W3C or BNet to play Warcraft 3. I'm pretty sure I have to buy Reforged to play this game online, well, unless I somehow find a copy of the original game with a CD key unused on BNet launcher.
@@Raumplestompon NA its $30. It was on summer sale a couple weeks ago for 50% off not sure if it is still on sale. I did buy it and I am 0-12 right now😂
I Love how Grubby celebrate the Build order 😂 it has to mean a thing If a top player is stuned of your Build order 😂
I don’t need to watch pron after seeing that cleave on the zeppelin drop. Please more pit lord videos
If memory serves I believe the first campaign gives a small hint on the side of the screen (can be seen in the log later as well) regarding autocast when you first encounter priests with Arthas and Jaina
That was such a great episode
bronze league is the best series on the internet. period
that first guy is cooking way too exotic ingredients for Grubby to handle 😂
Not sure if this helps but from the perspective of cognitive psychology, creativity can be conceptualized as the processes involved in problem solving (even if the problem is something vague such as “produce something beautiful”) and is broken up into two overlapping types: divergent thinking and convergent thinking.
Divergent thinking is essentially idea generation/brainstorming, i.e., generating and exploring a wide range of possible ways to tackle a problem.
Convergent thinking is the refinement and evaluation of the most promising ideas, i.e., honing in on the best possible solution(s) to the problem.
A classic test of divergent thinking would be to ask someone how many different ways a brick can be used, and giving them a score based on the number of answers they produce in a set amount of time plus bonus points for ones other people didn’t give, called Guilford’s alternate uses task.
A classic test of convergent thinking is to give someone a series of three seemingly unrelated words and asking them to produce a word that connects them (e.g., “snow, bearing, basket”), called the remote associations task.
Convergent thinking is also strongly related to conceptions of fluid intelligence (i.e., reasoning ability) which is one half of the modern psychological definition of intelligence (the other is crystalized intelligence, which is one’s existing knowledge), and many tests of fluid or general intelligence will include convergent thinking questions. Conversely, intelligence tests will not typically have divergent thinking questions as that dimension is usually considered a unique aspect of creativity.
"Um actually.." 🤓
@@McCarthy_Was_Right Um actually this was interesting
"Where's my trusty encyclopedia!?" 🤓@@Lastninjaxoxoxoxox
Ty for this nice comment. Enjoyed reading it
Ok. I laughed so much in this video that I watched it twice back to back.
Also, from "ok second zeppelin" to the end I just laughed unstoppably.
Please Grubby keep em coming, Bronze Heroes is this channel's most premium content to date.
virgin high elo player using teleport to save his units vs chad bronze player fighting until last man standing
Back around 2003, Grubby accidentally picked Pitlord in a tournament due to not having hotkeys. All of us low-level players copied this for a while and used Pitlord to be like Grubby.
It has been 20 years but Tutorial still believes in Grubby's Pitlord pick to this day!
This game was so good fun. I loved seeing how he tried to sneakily move the zeppelin and then hide. Too bad it didn't work for him. Also I didn't know you could lose units if the zeppelin dies on top of a crowded area.
9:40 sick as hell kill
I didn’t see the start of the Bober Saga, but I hope the Tutorial4420 season lasts a while
i would 100% absolutely agree that "creative" could be used as an insult. but creativity and artistry on its own does not have to please anyone, it doesnt even have to please the artist. it's kind of like that really unusual and counterintuitive "third" type of fun, that isnt fun in the moment or in hindsight :D
as a bronze player myself, watching bronze heroes is so relatable xDDD also great for learning
Dudes definitely still cooking with them peasants.
Seeing these slightly lower skill level games is what i needed to see in order to feel like i can actually play this game lol i'll have to give it a shot again ❤😂
Tutorial looks like someone is teaching someone else, there are 2 people behind that one screen, and one is saying "u h h h h h"
19:30 Lichking got almost instant lvl 2 here xD
I wanted to rant about creativity by stating: wikipedia says!!! but actually it says that creativity is creating something new and useful. but maybe a strategy, that doesn't work, can still be useful. Like when you see a bronze player doing something you never thought of and the bronze player could not make it work, but you can expand that idea and make it work, wouldn't the strategy of the bronze player be useful? because u would never have come to the refined version of it.
Not gonna lie to ya, the chadlike never back down mentality is pretty fun to watch in these bronze level games. Makes me wanna play wc3 again.
that ending was crazy!!
Loved the zepelin drop in the end xD
I used to do a similar build but DR instead of pitlord as UD. But the backpack twist on his part is great. Man, this makes me want to play again xD
tenacious D removed their apology
the nick is the plot behind the strategy
That ending lmao😅
Tutorial bringing the real Pit Lord Tutorial (for the second time). My man knows the strats.
I just realized bronze league casting is version of Grubby enjoying wc3 videos like us
Ahah like in a fifth second 😂😂😂 hum is awesome 👏
that zeppelin move was so fucking funny
😂 Funny Replay Grubb
Bronze leauge actually has some decent players like Bobber,and now this guy.
Hope we will see more from them . GG
I agree that creative has to at least sorta work. It doesn't have to be 100% there, but it has to have the seed of something worth exploring in more depth for it to be creative to me. That's the case with both art and build orders, and I think it's why some can find build orders beautiful.
Said this in the video where you played it yourself, but just for the algorithm engagement I'll say it again: This is genuinely inspired play.
the amount of time it took to get the two zeps and everything in them, flameseal could just right click map and be at his base or expansion. The end of that game was great lol.
I would agree creativity has to work / be beautiful to some extent or in some way, because the word universally has positive connotations and that's what it gives it merit. Otherwise it has the same meaning as weird or unusual.
I agree that creativity doesnt mean it must be 100% cumpetitive. Showing posible potential is enough to cumsider thing creative.
Gg! Over ambitious zeppelins 😂.
"Everyone is So Creative!"
Age of wonders in the beginning?😮
creativity is something unusual and this also work! )
lol i have lost so many games to Beast... shame he didnt get chance
Can shade steal items with backpack?
from 61 to 35 real quick lol 19:42
I'd like to see Tutorial4420 vs Bober!
Pitlord vs Tauren Chieften!
I would say that for something to be creative, it should have some rationale for why it should work, preferably with some way to adjust it if it doesn't work at first.
RIP Beast, we hardly knew ya.
ahah very creative
thank you!
Backpack first flex, Pit Lord with mules.
Can't wait for Bober vs Tutorial.
Real bronze league HEROES.
Exciting match! Let's get some FFA
Saved my evening brother Grub ❤
Poor first guy just wanted a 2nd farm. It was too much for Grubby.
I thought this gameplay was very beautiful, so it was creative
+1 for We are not gonna let him cook, we're gonna eat somewhere else ... :D
Incredible
We need Bober, the orc folk hero, back in the series
👍, if one m with "rush"as ghoul brings items to PL. Other just get PL go back to macro. Hopefully, you get rushed to enjoy the micro 😂
Most good ideas that are top tier caliber echelon played are stolen from everyday players.
Watching these Bl Heroes makes me believe I’m not that bad although im the same MMR lol
Creativity is not defined by the result of the creativity. That's success of the creative attempt. Creative is just the part of the process wherein one tries to do something new or different or innovative.
hahaha my life on game ^^
Zeppelin use should be restricted for just pros. Zeppelin in noob hands equals a disaster.
Are the bronze players the theory crafters? 😂
What a fiasco LMAO xD
random pixel generator is the most creative artist of all time
Its not about whats generated its the generating method that matters.
Grubby cringed so hard on that first game lmao
This is grubby vs happy right? 😂
Please make the replay and the one that grubby plays of the build a single video.
I hope the next video is him copying the build order
Why NOT do a drop against Frost Wyrm & Pit Lord + Fiend? This comp TOTALLY doesn't work against cramped, AoE area attacks right???
I have never seen Hero and units killed with zeppelin...
wheres the video of you playing this build!!
as someone who is in bronze as well from NA, i wish i some of these people were my opponents, i'm like 0-9 so far since joining wc3 champions ladder LOL. it feels like a different game compared to bnet with the caliber of player Ive found so far
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's how W3C works, play just a few more games and you'll see people like this as your opponent.
Did the Naga zeppelin fall into the water? It didn't seem close to it yet Naga died instantly.
It was a webbed zeppelin, iirc you cant unload from a webbed zep, or at least if the webbed zep dies the units that were in it will die instantly instead of auto-unloading
delay your 1st 2 gold miners to get a hero sooner, yes?
It has to work lol
Zeppelin suicide is not creative lol
I don't think creativity has to do with success. In the more artistic fields - there literally is no such thing as success. popularity doesn't necessarily mean that it is better art, or that it won't be appreciated in a different time/culture. In more competitive fields like business or gaming - creativity is only useful when it is paired with enough intelligence and field knowledge (and probably some other factors) to yield success, often where others with less creativity were unable to find a way.
I would say "competitive gaming" as gaming usually meant fun and creative way to have fun doesn't need to be the most efficient, can even be extremally inefficient, as long as it's fun.
@@anonimowelwiatko9811 I guess , but that is a very different attitude towards gaming than what grubby was talking about. If you are having a conversation where you are trying to put something on a scale of success - than just fun isn't enough. If fun is the only goal - than anything can be a success, some people even enjoy running back the same unoriginal strat over and over again with very little success and still enjoy the process... but I think that is a different conversation than what grubby was talking about.
Bronze league heroes
Where's the part where you play?
Can Naga buy boots?
Beast is cool. You did him wrong.
im a noob but the ud start doesnt really seem so bad.
I generally dont enjoy thise series and really prefer to see Grubby play, however, I must admit this was fun :D
*I LOVE BIG COX*
This noobie made me cutt of my toe
11:30 you speak nonsense. There is blue unbuildable and pink unpassable squares that buildings have.
Ziggurats, Burrows, Moonwells, Farms, Blacksmiths, Warmills are all pink, Most Unit producing buildings and shops have 1 square frame of blue terrain and Necropolis uniquelly has small pink terrain and big 2 squares of blue frame. Maybe it is actually a bit short on North. I need to check it out.
Learn World Editor grubby and press P i think to see those.
Just checked. Necropolis is indeed only 1 blue square thickkkkkkk.
Does Orb if Darkness works with cleave?
Orb of Corruption reduces armor of only the initial target attacked by Pit Lord if he has the item equipped, iirc.
Even if you cleave a unit already under the effect of Orb of Corruption, you deal the same amount of damage since it ignores armor, iirc.
Pit Lord cannot trigger cleave with the ranged anti-air attack of Orb of Corruption.
@@SyRose901 thanks
@@TheKuwiDidn't know Orb of Darkness is also in the multiplayer games, although it's a Level 6 item.
That also works much the same way, Pit Lord has to directly hit the target for Orb to apply.
@@SyRose901 i mean orb of corruption so the undead shop one, i just not remember the name ^^ i dont see orb of darkness in any game for years now
Orb of Corruption reduces target's armor. Orb of Darkness creates skeletons (like the Dark Ranger).
😮
I disagree with creativity also having to also 'work'. Like say for you example art, beauty isnt sometimes appreciated by other people till much later, would you say the artist wasnt creative when he did his art but only became creative when his art became appreciated.