This guy's build order is actually VERY CREATIVE! - Bronze League Heroes Episode 38

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  • Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
  • Bronze League Heroes is really something else! These players haven't been brainwashed by years of being slaves to the meta, and this Undead player has a very creative build I might just copy in the future!
    This guy's build order is actually VERY CREATIVE! (Game played on 15-July-2024)
    Merch: grubby-shop.fo...
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    #Grubby #Games #Strategy #Multiplayer #Competitive #BLH #Creativity

Комментарии • 140

  • @VanRukh
    @VanRukh Месяц назад +179

    Backpack accelerated pitlord creeping is peak ingenuity

  • @AssistInRiots
    @AssistInRiots Месяц назад +113

    Naga to FS: you thinking what I’m thinkin partner?
    FS: aim for the bushes

    • @gliscaradu1424
      @gliscaradu1424 Месяц назад +5

      😂😂😂😂😂😂 dude this got me loling for a minute str8

    • @akosszilagyi2656
      @akosszilagyi2656 Месяц назад +6

      There goes my hero...

  • @legn7324
    @legn7324 Месяц назад +86

    3:36 imagine being bronze leage player well known to pros as "pitlord guy"

  • @attention_shopping
    @attention_shopping Месяц назад +76

    OMG that evolution from not understanding and then seeing the backpack - genius bronze hero!

    • @Nerobyrne
      @Nerobyrne Месяц назад

      Why does he need the backpack though?

    • @FruchteisMitErdbeer
      @FruchteisMitErdbeer Месяц назад

      To get rod of necromancy to the pit lord without having to go home ​@@Nerobyrne

    • @Rapfan965
      @Rapfan965 Месяц назад +8

      @@Nerobyrne backpack is used to bring staff of necromancy to the tavern. this way he can get pit from the tavern and go straight for creeping instead of going back to buy the staff

    • @attention_shopping
      @attention_shopping Месяц назад

      @@Nerobyrne to buy rod and transports on ghoul to tavern pitlord!

  • @seongmoon6483
    @seongmoon6483 Месяц назад +122

    My disappoint in Grubby not letting the HU cook first game is immeasurable.

    • @Randy1337
      @Randy1337 Месяц назад

    • @taintedPot
      @taintedPot Месяц назад +6

      yea you should think about it this way: the guy doesnt make peons for 40 seconds and STILL wins? Must see

    • @TheRealMycanthrope
      @TheRealMycanthrope 28 дней назад

      Real

  • @Yenly4game
    @Yenly4game Месяц назад +18

    my man so free from the shackles of the Meta
    Grubby didn't let him em cook 😂

  • @SyRose901
    @SyRose901 Месяц назад +54

    Pit Lord first is so badass. Tutorial4420 might actually climb up a bit if he just goes Necromancers with Unholy Frenzy. Add Meat Wagons on top of that for non-Pit Lord firepower(necro summons), maybe.

    • @shakohoto7901
      @shakohoto7901 Месяц назад +2

      Nah just make a wyrm and wait for them to drop their army into your frost, cleave, and towers

  • @CssHDmonster
    @CssHDmonster Месяц назад +23

    lmao that ragequit game 1

    • @user-kd2qd1sh3o
      @user-kd2qd1sh3o Месяц назад +8

      kinda rude tbh

    • @Meatlord69
      @Meatlord69 Месяц назад

      @@user-kd2qd1sh3o Yeah dude its bronze league, what does he expect?

  • @SyRose901
    @SyRose901 Месяц назад +50

    Bronze League might actually make me buy Warcraft 3 and play. I'm in Central Asia, but I'm pretty confident W3C has pretty good ping with a lot of the playerbase.
    ...Uh, maybe you'll see me in a Grubby video? Idk, I may not have enough time to actually go through with the purchase and gameplay.

    • @Cyrrith
      @Cyrrith Месяц назад +3

      I played it as a kid and all these vids got me wanting to learn competitive so badly

    • @Raumplestomp
      @Raumplestomp Месяц назад

      How much does that cost?

    • @Cyrrith
      @Cyrrith Месяц назад +1

      @@SyRose901 The game? Nothing for me as I still had my CD codes but I think it’s around 40 usd. I don’t get the reforged option but I think the classic art style is way cooler anyways

    • @SyRose901
      @SyRose901 Месяц назад +2

      @@Cyrrith I never owned the game, only pirated versions that are always offline. At a LAN party on something like DotA or other custom maps, it's perfect, but I cannot go beyond version 1.27 or go to W3C or BNet to play Warcraft 3. I'm pretty sure I have to buy Reforged to play this game online, well, unless I somehow find a copy of the original game with a CD key unused on BNet launcher.

    • @AliShah-xe4ic
      @AliShah-xe4ic Месяц назад +1

      @@Raumplestompon NA its $30. It was on summer sale a couple weeks ago for 50% off not sure if it is still on sale. I did buy it and I am 0-12 right now😂

  • @nicolaifernandez3319
    @nicolaifernandez3319 Месяц назад +10

    I Love how Grubby celebrate the Build order 😂 it has to mean a thing If a top player is stuned of your Build order 😂

  • @FernandoGomez-mc5he
    @FernandoGomez-mc5he Месяц назад +10

    I don’t need to watch pron after seeing that cleave on the zeppelin drop. Please more pit lord videos

  • @liviuursegr
    @liviuursegr Месяц назад +8

    If memory serves I believe the first campaign gives a small hint on the side of the screen (can be seen in the log later as well) regarding autocast when you first encounter priests with Arthas and Jaina

  • @frostburn195
    @frostburn195 Месяц назад +1

    That was such a great episode

  • @hartmannschorsch9358
    @hartmannschorsch9358 Месяц назад +15

    bronze league is the best series on the internet. period

  • @3linkin10
    @3linkin10 Месяц назад +4

    that first guy is cooking way too exotic ingredients for Grubby to handle 😂

  • @draheim90
    @draheim90 Месяц назад +8

    Not sure if this helps but from the perspective of cognitive psychology, creativity can be conceptualized as the processes involved in problem solving (even if the problem is something vague such as “produce something beautiful”) and is broken up into two overlapping types: divergent thinking and convergent thinking.
    Divergent thinking is essentially idea generation/brainstorming, i.e., generating and exploring a wide range of possible ways to tackle a problem.
    Convergent thinking is the refinement and evaluation of the most promising ideas, i.e., honing in on the best possible solution(s) to the problem.
    A classic test of divergent thinking would be to ask someone how many different ways a brick can be used, and giving them a score based on the number of answers they produce in a set amount of time plus bonus points for ones other people didn’t give, called Guilford’s alternate uses task.
    A classic test of convergent thinking is to give someone a series of three seemingly unrelated words and asking them to produce a word that connects them (e.g., “snow, bearing, basket”), called the remote associations task.
    Convergent thinking is also strongly related to conceptions of fluid intelligence (i.e., reasoning ability) which is one half of the modern psychological definition of intelligence (the other is crystalized intelligence, which is one’s existing knowledge), and many tests of fluid or general intelligence will include convergent thinking questions. Conversely, intelligence tests will not typically have divergent thinking questions as that dimension is usually considered a unique aspect of creativity.

    • @McCarthy_Was_Right
      @McCarthy_Was_Right Месяц назад +2

      "Um actually.." 🤓

    • @Lastninjaxoxoxoxox
      @Lastninjaxoxoxoxox 22 дня назад +2

      @@McCarthy_Was_Right Um actually this was interesting

    • @McCarthy_Was_Right
      @McCarthy_Was_Right 22 дня назад

      "Where's my trusty encyclopedia!?" 🤓@@Lastninjaxoxoxoxox

    • @IgotDis14
      @IgotDis14 19 дней назад +3

      Ty for this nice comment. Enjoyed reading it

  • @MilanStier
    @MilanStier Месяц назад +2

    Ok. I laughed so much in this video that I watched it twice back to back.
    Also, from "ok second zeppelin" to the end I just laughed unstoppably.
    Please Grubby keep em coming, Bronze Heroes is this channel's most premium content to date.

  • @ags8507
    @ags8507 Месяц назад +11

    virgin high elo player using teleport to save his units vs chad bronze player fighting until last man standing

  • @POINTS2
    @POINTS2 10 дней назад +1

    Back around 2003, Grubby accidentally picked Pitlord in a tournament due to not having hotkeys. All of us low-level players copied this for a while and used Pitlord to be like Grubby.
    It has been 20 years but Tutorial still believes in Grubby's Pitlord pick to this day!

  • @facundomoralesdiorio3802
    @facundomoralesdiorio3802 Месяц назад +4

    This game was so good fun. I loved seeing how he tried to sneakily move the zeppelin and then hide. Too bad it didn't work for him. Also I didn't know you could lose units if the zeppelin dies on top of a crowded area.

  • @ambion19
    @ambion19 Месяц назад +4

    9:40 sick as hell kill

  • @Thelegoterrapin
    @Thelegoterrapin Месяц назад +2

    I didn’t see the start of the Bober Saga, but I hope the Tutorial4420 season lasts a while

  • @Templarfreak
    @Templarfreak Месяц назад +3

    i would 100% absolutely agree that "creative" could be used as an insult. but creativity and artistry on its own does not have to please anyone, it doesnt even have to please the artist. it's kind of like that really unusual and counterintuitive "third" type of fun, that isnt fun in the moment or in hindsight :D

  • @catamountmana
    @catamountmana Месяц назад +2

    as a bronze player myself, watching bronze heroes is so relatable xDDD also great for learning

  • @doyzerI420
    @doyzerI420 Месяц назад +2

    Dudes definitely still cooking with them peasants.

  • @IzzetNilson
    @IzzetNilson 17 дней назад

    Seeing these slightly lower skill level games is what i needed to see in order to feel like i can actually play this game lol i'll have to give it a shot again ❤😂

  • @serioussilliness2064
    @serioussilliness2064 Месяц назад +6

    Tutorial looks like someone is teaching someone else, there are 2 people behind that one screen, and one is saying "u h h h h h"

  • @Khazar321
    @Khazar321 Месяц назад

    19:30 Lichking got almost instant lvl 2 here xD

  • @MrFleit
    @MrFleit Месяц назад +4

    I wanted to rant about creativity by stating: wikipedia says!!! but actually it says that creativity is creating something new and useful. but maybe a strategy, that doesn't work, can still be useful. Like when you see a bronze player doing something you never thought of and the bronze player could not make it work, but you can expand that idea and make it work, wouldn't the strategy of the bronze player be useful? because u would never have come to the refined version of it.

  • @budrothefox3666
    @budrothefox3666 22 дня назад

    Not gonna lie to ya, the chadlike never back down mentality is pretty fun to watch in these bronze level games. Makes me wanna play wc3 again.

  • @GoodVulture
    @GoodVulture Месяц назад

    that ending was crazy!!

  • @stillownya
    @stillownya Месяц назад

    Loved the zepelin drop in the end xD

  • @joaquinsandoval5370
    @joaquinsandoval5370 Месяц назад

    I used to do a similar build but DR instead of pitlord as UD. But the backpack twist on his part is great. Man, this makes me want to play again xD

  • @game_jinx
    @game_jinx Месяц назад +1

    tenacious D removed their apology

  • @SIDDqlo
    @SIDDqlo Месяц назад

    the nick is the plot behind the strategy

  • @edwinalvarado3229
    @edwinalvarado3229 Месяц назад

    That ending lmao😅

  • @ernestomarcos0103
    @ernestomarcos0103 Месяц назад

    Tutorial bringing the real Pit Lord Tutorial (for the second time). My man knows the strats.

  • @ardianlimiarto8181
    @ardianlimiarto8181 Месяц назад +1

    I just realized bronze league casting is version of Grubby enjoying wc3 videos like us

  • @gussihague
    @gussihague Месяц назад

    Ahah like in a fifth second 😂😂😂 hum is awesome 👏

  • @froggy3496
    @froggy3496 Месяц назад

    that zeppelin move was so fucking funny

  • @marianWarcraft3Reforged
    @marianWarcraft3Reforged Месяц назад

    😂 Funny Replay Grubb

  • @Xoxoxohh00
    @Xoxoxohh00 Месяц назад

    Bronze leauge actually has some decent players like Bobber,and now this guy.
    Hope we will see more from them . GG

  • @stephentimothybennett
    @stephentimothybennett Месяц назад

    I agree that creative has to at least sorta work. It doesn't have to be 100% there, but it has to have the seed of something worth exploring in more depth for it to be creative to me. That's the case with both art and build orders, and I think it's why some can find build orders beautiful.

  • @williampounds5191
    @williampounds5191 Месяц назад

    Said this in the video where you played it yourself, but just for the algorithm engagement I'll say it again: This is genuinely inspired play.

  • @DoNotFearTheReapa
    @DoNotFearTheReapa Месяц назад

    the amount of time it took to get the two zeps and everything in them, flameseal could just right click map and be at his base or expansion. The end of that game was great lol.

  • @Atlan
    @Atlan Месяц назад

    I would agree creativity has to work / be beautiful to some extent or in some way, because the word universally has positive connotations and that's what it gives it merit. Otherwise it has the same meaning as weird or unusual.

  • @The666opal111
    @The666opal111 Месяц назад

    I agree that creativity doesnt mean it must be 100% cumpetitive. Showing posible potential is enough to cumsider thing creative.

  •  Месяц назад

    Gg! Over ambitious zeppelins 😂.

  • @MrGaleanon
    @MrGaleanon Месяц назад

    "Everyone is So Creative!"

  • @eikeruting2414
    @eikeruting2414 Месяц назад

    Age of wonders in the beginning?😮

  • @takanabe379
    @takanabe379 Месяц назад

    creativity is something unusual and this also work! )

  • @wasdwdddasdddwd
    @wasdwdddasdddwd Месяц назад +1

    lol i have lost so many games to Beast... shame he didnt get chance

  • @Raumplestomp
    @Raumplestomp Месяц назад +1

    Can shade steal items with backpack?

  • @ninjaaljun7674
    @ninjaaljun7674 Месяц назад

    from 61 to 35 real quick lol 19:42

  • @j-rod4600
    @j-rod4600 Месяц назад

    I'd like to see Tutorial4420 vs Bober!
    Pitlord vs Tauren Chieften!

  • @Lucius_Chiaraviglio
    @Lucius_Chiaraviglio Месяц назад

    I would say that for something to be creative, it should have some rationale for why it should work, preferably with some way to adjust it if it doesn't work at first.

  • @HighLanderPonyYT
    @HighLanderPonyYT Месяц назад

    RIP Beast, we hardly knew ya.

  • @arbuz135
    @arbuz135 Месяц назад

    ahah very creative
    thank you!

  • @planetary-rendez-vous
    @planetary-rendez-vous Месяц назад

    Backpack first flex, Pit Lord with mules.

  • @LeDogueDeBroceliande
    @LeDogueDeBroceliande Месяц назад

    Can't wait for Bober vs Tutorial.
    Real bronze league HEROES.

  • @bassdropyoface
    @bassdropyoface Месяц назад

    Exciting match! Let's get some FFA

  • @Quirin_Moser
    @Quirin_Moser Месяц назад

    Saved my evening brother Grub ❤

  • @nicholasnugen3904
    @nicholasnugen3904 Месяц назад

    Poor first guy just wanted a 2nd farm. It was too much for Grubby.

  • @budderk1305
    @budderk1305 Месяц назад

    I thought this gameplay was very beautiful, so it was creative

  • @TheUnkow
    @TheUnkow Месяц назад +1

    +1 for We are not gonna let him cook, we're gonna eat somewhere else ... :D

  • @namshimaru
    @namshimaru Месяц назад

    Incredible

  • @AvengerNk
    @AvengerNk Месяц назад

    We need Bober, the orc folk hero, back in the series

  • @DragonRafify
    @DragonRafify Месяц назад

    👍, if one m with "rush"as ghoul brings items to PL. Other just get PL go back to macro. Hopefully, you get rushed to enjoy the micro 😂

  • @dorkporkknobslob9918
    @dorkporkknobslob9918 Месяц назад +1

    Most good ideas that are top tier caliber echelon played are stolen from everyday players.

  • @pixxies9158
    @pixxies9158 Месяц назад

    Watching these Bl Heroes makes me believe I’m not that bad although im the same MMR lol

  • @Kanikalion
    @Kanikalion Месяц назад +1

    Creativity is not defined by the result of the creativity. That's success of the creative attempt. Creative is just the part of the process wherein one tries to do something new or different or innovative.

  • @takanabe379
    @takanabe379 Месяц назад

    hahaha my life on game ^^

  • @masspandas
    @masspandas Месяц назад

    Zeppelin use should be restricted for just pros. Zeppelin in noob hands equals a disaster.

  • @planetary-rendez-vous
    @planetary-rendez-vous Месяц назад +1

    Are the bronze players the theory crafters? 😂

  • @Anchang30
    @Anchang30 Месяц назад

    What a fiasco LMAO xD

  • @mintx1720
    @mintx1720 Месяц назад

    random pixel generator is the most creative artist of all time

    • @AnonYmous-spyonmepls
      @AnonYmous-spyonmepls Месяц назад

      Its not about whats generated its the generating method that matters.

  • @yuku6921
    @yuku6921 Месяц назад

    Grubby cringed so hard on that first game lmao

  • @marcowu3631
    @marcowu3631 Месяц назад

    This is grubby vs happy right? 😂

  • @huntman1412
    @huntman1412 Месяц назад

    Please make the replay and the one that grubby plays of the build a single video.

  • @thelastmoonchaser
    @thelastmoonchaser Месяц назад

    I hope the next video is him copying the build order

  • @Trades46
    @Trades46 Месяц назад

    Why NOT do a drop against Frost Wyrm & Pit Lord + Fiend? This comp TOTALLY doesn't work against cramped, AoE area attacks right???

  • @junhyeonglee863
    @junhyeonglee863 Месяц назад

    I have never seen Hero and units killed with zeppelin...

  • @MrCokewithice
    @MrCokewithice Месяц назад

    wheres the video of you playing this build!!

  • @lawl6769
    @lawl6769 Месяц назад

    as someone who is in bronze as well from NA, i wish i some of these people were my opponents, i'm like 0-9 so far since joining wc3 champions ladder LOL. it feels like a different game compared to bnet with the caliber of player Ive found so far

    • @SyRose901
      @SyRose901 Месяц назад +2

      Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's how W3C works, play just a few more games and you'll see people like this as your opponent.

  • @TheNemkris
    @TheNemkris Месяц назад

    Did the Naga zeppelin fall into the water? It didn't seem close to it yet Naga died instantly.

    • @E2O10
      @E2O10 8 дней назад +1

      It was a webbed zeppelin, iirc you cant unload from a webbed zep, or at least if the webbed zep dies the units that were in it will die instantly instead of auto-unloading

  • @serioussilliness2064
    @serioussilliness2064 Месяц назад +1

    delay your 1st 2 gold miners to get a hero sooner, yes?

  • @kmash6523
    @kmash6523 8 дней назад

    It has to work lol

    • @kmash6523
      @kmash6523 8 дней назад

      Zeppelin suicide is not creative lol

  • @cheshire9646
    @cheshire9646 Месяц назад

    I don't think creativity has to do with success. In the more artistic fields - there literally is no such thing as success. popularity doesn't necessarily mean that it is better art, or that it won't be appreciated in a different time/culture. In more competitive fields like business or gaming - creativity is only useful when it is paired with enough intelligence and field knowledge (and probably some other factors) to yield success, often where others with less creativity were unable to find a way.

    • @anonimowelwiatko9811
      @anonimowelwiatko9811 Месяц назад

      I would say "competitive gaming" as gaming usually meant fun and creative way to have fun doesn't need to be the most efficient, can even be extremally inefficient, as long as it's fun.

    • @cheshire9646
      @cheshire9646 Месяц назад

      ​@@anonimowelwiatko9811 I guess , but that is a very different attitude towards gaming than what grubby was talking about. If you are having a conversation where you are trying to put something on a scale of success - than just fun isn't enough. If fun is the only goal - than anything can be a success, some people even enjoy running back the same unoriginal strat over and over again with very little success and still enjoy the process... but I think that is a different conversation than what grubby was talking about.

  • @Randy1337
    @Randy1337 Месяц назад

    Bronze league heroes

  • @CaptTeamwork
    @CaptTeamwork Месяц назад

    Where's the part where you play?

  • @mathmagician5990
    @mathmagician5990 21 день назад

    Can Naga buy boots?

  • @yeahcharles7870
    @yeahcharles7870 Месяц назад

    Beast is cool. You did him wrong.

  • @CarpathianWasteGroup
    @CarpathianWasteGroup 17 дней назад

    im a noob but the ud start doesnt really seem so bad.

  • @ross1158
    @ross1158 Месяц назад

    I generally dont enjoy thise series and really prefer to see Grubby play, however, I must admit this was fun :D

  • @goldiegolderman1842
    @goldiegolderman1842 Месяц назад +1

    *I LOVE BIG COX*

  • @fabilichusaquaman4263
    @fabilichusaquaman4263 Месяц назад

    This noobie made me cutt of my toe

  • @karpai5427
    @karpai5427 20 дней назад

    11:30 you speak nonsense. There is blue unbuildable and pink unpassable squares that buildings have.
    Ziggurats, Burrows, Moonwells, Farms, Blacksmiths, Warmills are all pink, Most Unit producing buildings and shops have 1 square frame of blue terrain and Necropolis uniquelly has small pink terrain and big 2 squares of blue frame. Maybe it is actually a bit short on North. I need to check it out.
    Learn World Editor grubby and press P i think to see those.
    Just checked. Necropolis is indeed only 1 blue square thickkkkkkk.

  • @TheKuwi
    @TheKuwi Месяц назад +1

    Does Orb if Darkness works with cleave?

    • @SyRose901
      @SyRose901 Месяц назад +1

      Orb of Corruption reduces armor of only the initial target attacked by Pit Lord if he has the item equipped, iirc.
      Even if you cleave a unit already under the effect of Orb of Corruption, you deal the same amount of damage since it ignores armor, iirc.
      Pit Lord cannot trigger cleave with the ranged anti-air attack of Orb of Corruption.

    • @TheKuwi
      @TheKuwi Месяц назад

      @@SyRose901 thanks

    • @SyRose901
      @SyRose901 Месяц назад

      ​@@TheKuwiDidn't know Orb of Darkness is also in the multiplayer games, although it's a Level 6 item.
      That also works much the same way, Pit Lord has to directly hit the target for Orb to apply.

    • @TheKuwi
      @TheKuwi Месяц назад

      @@SyRose901 i mean orb of corruption so the undead shop one, i just not remember the name ^^ i dont see orb of darkness in any game for years now

    • @khai96x
      @khai96x Месяц назад

      Orb of Corruption reduces target's armor. Orb of Darkness creates skeletons (like the Dark Ranger).

  • @arkhipov1062
    @arkhipov1062 Месяц назад

    😮

  • @melchormendoza
    @melchormendoza 9 дней назад

    I disagree with creativity also having to also 'work'. Like say for you example art, beauty isnt sometimes appreciated by other people till much later, would you say the artist wasnt creative when he did his art but only became creative when his art became appreciated.