The TRUTH of the matter is...the Jets ownership wasn't prepared to give Belichick the autonomy he required to run the team...to DO HIS JOB. Jets mistake...the rest is history. I've been grateful ever since.
@@lyrics2challenged Yes all is true. But if there is no Brady it don't matter. They don't win even 1 SB. He's the trigger man. Without him it doesn't matter. Defense does matter. And you can win a SB sometimes with a terrible Quarterback. Dilfer comes to mind. He won no where in the NFL but 1 year. But if you look over all the SBs the QB was the most important piece in almost all of them. Without one you never score. If you can't score it doesn't make any difference how good the defense is. Yes defense wins. But without some sort of QB not screwing it up you never win.
Jets are cursed. He and Tom would have been somehow mistreated or misused. Bill's first and 3rd season was bad with Pats, the Jets would have had no patience and cut him. (I forgot I'm from NY and actually like the jets
@@larrylindgren9484 The long long narrative that continues to this day: Without Brady Belichick doesn't succeed; without Belichick Brady doesn't succeed; Brady is a "system QB"; Bellichick was a losing coach with the Browns; without Brady Bellichick doesn't succeed; Mat Cassel had a winning record with the Pats when Brady was gone for the season; without Bellichick Brady doesn't succeed; and so on and so on, etc, etc..... It's a wonder this pair of losers managed to hoist even one Lombardi Trophy.... hmmm?
@@codeysnow2980 The person who made the OG reply to his comment deleted his. I have given Brady more credit now, but I still gotta give it to Bill 60/40 or 55/45 lol.
Only reason Parcells resigned was because Kraft called up NYJ headquarters looking to talk to Belichick about the HC job in NE. Parcells got the fax from Kraft... then decided to resign to keep Belichick in NY and as HC there. Belichick was sick of Parcells antics and wanted to get away from him. And THANK GOD he did.
Don Romani _”Tom Coughlin beat Belichick in 2 Super Bowls”_ no, he did not. Any more than Chris Johnson “beat” Robert Kraft in those 2 games. Nor did Eli Manning beat Tom Brady. Neither Johnson nor Kraft nor Coughlin nor Belichick were on the field for a single play in either of those 2 gamesAnd Brady & Manning never faced each other across a line of scrimmage, Manning never intercepted a single pass, Brady never left a receiver in-covered, never missed an assignment or a tackle. . If you want to reduce“ the Giant 2 SB Victories to a simplistic sound bite it would be that *”the Giants’ D-Line overwhelmed the Pats O-Line, and in the NFL *NO* QB, (not Montana, not Brady, Not Manning, Not Elway, not Marino, *none of them no matter how great* can do their job if they are not given competent pass protection, You might reasonably assert that Dan Quinn “beat” Dante Scarnecchia. I’ve often wondered what role (if any) played by Matt Chatham (5 year Pats OLineman & one of the smartest linemen I’ve ever heard analyze interior line play) might have played in helping the Jets prepare for the Pats’O-line schemes. Not that I blame him for one second for doing so. Belichick let him go that season. If Matt substantially helped the Jets then this was the greatest “screw you, for trading me,Coach” moment in the history of the NFL, turning a MAGNIFICENT, unprecedented 18-0 season into a CRAPPY 18-1 season & snatching away the title of “greatest NFL Season of all time” from the entire organization. Approached only by Lagarrette Blount’s year in Philly.If I may humbly offer,on behalf of all those great, dedicated Pats veterans that Belichick sent packing for no apparent reason (Ty Law, Logan Mankins, Jamie Collins, Chandler Jones, Lagarrette Blount, Matt Chatham, Christian Fauria, Willie McGinist, Richard Seymour, etc.), my high level perspective if Matt did Coach up the Jets D-Line, “way to go , Matt, bit of a cumuppance, there, Bill.”
@@teefkay2What games were you watching? What you don't know, Coughlin & Belichick when they were on the Giants, would face each other in practice constantly. Coughlin 'O' against Belichick 'D'. Parcells once said "you 2 guys going at it again?" Well Tom out-coached Belichick in both those SBs. He had Belichicks number!
@@jamesdavis6036 no amount of coaching produced either Tyree’s helmet catch or Manningham’s sideline catch. Both were simply “player execution at a critical juncture”. Either of those plays go the. Way one would expect 98 times out of 100, and the results of the game reverse. Same with Asante Samuel dropping easy interception, which would have produced a 19-0 season in ‘07.
Parcells is a great coach and where ever he went he built some extraordinary teams. He was blessed to have such a talented DC by his side. But lets remember, Pats fans were saying the same thing about Belichick after Weis and Crennell left. He couldn't win a super bowl without those two. Both are great Coaches, both command and deserve respect imo.
only 1 scout wanted to draft Tom Brady an old scout knick named whitey, who was only in the draft room out of respect because he was retiring, guess the eye test can pick GOAT's lol
Parcells was dead set on picking QB Chad Pennington in the 2000 draft. He wasn’t going to be persuaded to pick a second quarterback or taking Brady instead of Pennington. Instead of saying that, he says that he doesn’t remember anyone telling him about Brady. BS.
I'm sure Bill Belichick looks at his three rings (while he waits for his fourth one to be made) as a HC, then looks at his 2 as a DC and doesn't care what Bill Parcels has to say. If you ask Jets fan whether they'd want that 1st round draft pick or Belichick I'm sure they'd rather have Bill
New Yorkers are lucky as hell to have a sports commentator like Michael Kay. From hearing his voice in this segment, I'm thinking that I've heard him do Yankees radio coverage, and if that's him, he's brilliant and entertaining and astute and knowledgeable...in a way few other announcers are...
@@velvetarcade6017 - Wow! Sammy boy, are you for real? Unbelievable! That's right up there with Obama attempting to take credit for the Trump economy! That's pure Fake News! You should be called, Sam Pinocchio. . .
Weis was a weenie. Parcells gave Weis his Big break hecwould have never gotten from anyone else. Karma hit Weis: 4th and 9vat their own 14vyard line, Matt Leinart hit that WR flat slot route then they score 8 plays later atvNote Dame. I think the score was 65 to 62, something like that. If ccx Weis wins that one game, spoiling the mighty YSC Trojans, Weis could have gotten any job he wanted. Now I kniq why Karma struck Weis hard.
Parcells has a unique definition of "loyalty", as in- it's ok when I do the wrong thing but not when another does the same. And like 31 other GMs, he rues the fact that he passed on Brady at least five times every single day of his life.
Well there were 198 picks before Brady, there were 198 opportunities for a team to pick Brady and a team passed on him before the Pats got to him. Sure he worded it poorly, but his logic was right.
Belichick didn't trust Parcells not to meddle or return as head coach. He needed to leave. Belichick's won 4 super bowls and been to six without Parcells. Parcells never won a thing without Belichick. enough said.
ROTFLMFAO, you suck at being a troll. That would make pretty much every quarterback's stats in history less than "mediocre". Did you get a dictionary from Santa yet, troll?
@@l.rongardner2150 Nope. Belichick is superior to any coach in NFL history. Bill Walsh's 4 measly rings in the no salary cap era, is nothing compared to Belichick.
what a bunch of bitter old men. I think Bill holds some type of grudge because Bill. B will go down in history as a better coach then he was. Oh and if you're going to bring up Spygate, just remember where Bill.B got it from
xreturnwthhonorx Didn't the Jets want Parcells to have duel roles of being the head coach/general manager (like Belichick is in NE) but they couldn't due to Parcells contract so they went with Belichick instead? I don't blame Belichick for wanting to leave when a past team he coached for (who had some good pieces to work with) offered him pretty much complete control of the team plus he could get out of Parcells shadow and not have to look over his shoulder knowing the Jets will probably replace him with Parcells when they got the chance.
+xreturnwthhonorx I agree Belichick is the better head coach, But Parcells is a much better GM. Just look at all the players he drafted with the patriots between 93 and 96. So many of them were key pieces to the Patriots superbowl wins. first year 1993 Drew Bledsoe Chris Slade Vincent Brisby Troy Brown 1994 Willie McGinest Max Lane 1995 (95 and 96 were great drafts, Multiple HOFers) Ty Law Ted Johnson Curtis Martin Jimmy Hitchcock 96 Terry Glenn Lawyer Milloy Tedy Bruschi The Tuna rarely missed in the draft in the first 3 rounds and that is how you build a champion. Belichick had some really bad years drafting 06, 07, and 08 (except Mayo). He has been much better in the last few year drafting multiple pro-bowl caliber players.
I would not take Parcells as a GM because Belichick needs full control over the roster to put together an efficient team. I'd rather win with whatever Bill picks up from the free agency heap (winning with a lot of help from Brady, mind you) than lose while drafting star after star who eventually leaves in free agency. And yes, free agency is also part of a GM's job, not just drafting.
People saying Parcells needed Belicheck or vice versa for success are all wrong - it's the players. The Giants were successful in the 80s - #1 reason they had Lawrence Taylor. Patriots success biggest reason is Tom Brady. Certainly lots of players and coaches also impact things, but having the best players makes coaches look a lot smarter.
Did you see the 2008 season? Did you see the first 4 weeks this year? Tom Brady helps but Belichick has had success and will have success without Brady.
Look, Somebody has had Aaron Rodgers. Someone had Peyton Manning. Someone had Joe Montana. It's not like having an incredibly good, talented, skilled, hard-working QB means you automatically win 6 Superbowls and have 8 appearances with 2 teams. That isn't the reality. The reality is that Belichick is able to game-plan to win with whatever he's got. The better players you give him, the more he'll win... but you don't give him players - he's making the draft decisions and Free Agency decisions too. He's got everything football-good about Tom Landry, Bill Walsh, and Bill Parcells wrapped up in one package. He's greater than them all. If anyone thinks Brady goes somewhere else and wins 4 Superbowls, you're Crazy. If you think Belichick wins those 4 Superbowls without Brady, you're nuts. He coulda won some with Bledsoe, but you wouldn't be hearing all these journalists (who probably caught more baseballs with their eyes than their gloves) talking about how great Belichick is, unless he has Brady. And, Brady coulda had a Kurt-Warner-like story late in his career, but Belichick was the one that took him in the draft and he was the one that picked him over Bledsoe. Without Belichick, Brady isn't what we know him to be. The fact is, Montana and Walsh were the only ones remotely close to being as good together. Lots of great coaches and QBs have tried to do what Belichick and Brady have done, but when you look at how consistently great, not just good, they are year after year, no one can deny their greatness. Anyone who thinks the Pats always have the most talent is wrong. Anyone who thinks Brady is a prduct of Belichick's system is wrong. Anyone who thinks Brady is what makes up for Belichick's "bad" decisions is sorely mistaken. They're both great and they are greater together, still.
Parcells never won a Superbowl without Belichick as his defensive coordinator. And hasn't been back to one either. I think Belicheck is a better coach and the numbers show it.
Anyone who can make the playoffs and win 10 or 11 games in a season with Quincy Carter at quarterback and converted fullback as the starting running back after taking over the mess Jerry Jones created in Dallas, can freaking do anything! Anyone who could say that probably never experienced him coaching their favorite team. I used to think he was overrated before he came to Dallas, after he left realized he deserved all the praise he ever received.
He went to the Giants, turned that sorry sack of a franchise into a perennial playoff contender that has lasted over 30 years He went to the Jets, turned a 1-15 team into the playoffs with a few of his guys and that crappy roster. He went to the Cowboys, turned a trainwreck into a playoff team and developed Tony Romo. But he sucks without Belichick. Who learned a ton of his craft directly from him. Ok.
I became a fan of the pats once parcells came over, but for him to talk about loyalty is a huge joke, preaches team and behind the pats back he was negotiating with jets, he took a private plane w/family and friends and left the pats flat after the SB, from that day forward i was disgusted w/him and his wanna do all the cooking garbage, best decision i ever made, stayed w/the pats, 6 SB wins later lol best thing Kraft did was let his ass go, he won nothing w/out BB, Go Pats Nation!
If you watch on of the giants games when parcells said to belichick what you're doing isn't working and coach belichick asks what's wrong parcells responds I don't know but what it is but it ain't working,then coach belichick says what do you want to do about it and parcells says I don't know what to do about it but what you're doing isn't working then coach belichick says something like we'll let me get on with it and this is in the middle of a game so it shows that head coach parcells had no idea of how to fix a play and interfered with defensive coach belichick on a defensive play with no plan of action,I think that this lets you know everything about parcells,the other coaches made him who he was and he still couldn't give them credit
In a way you are totally right. Bill wasn't a xs and os guy. There's another part of coaching which is motivating players and staff, managing egos and extracting the best out of your staff and players, doing anything legal or illegal to get better players on your team. Managing media, playing the public. Basically he's a team manager, as opposed to a play by play coach. Also the guy climbed a really steep hill to make it to the top of his career, I think as a player tops he made was NFL practice team for 1 year. He started as a line backers coach to some team I've never heard of because he didn't have pedigree or lineage, was line backers coach to army and few small schools then defence coordinator also small schools, finally air Force made him head Coach. After that he was defence coordinator in the NFL and after a few gigs as coordinator he finally was a NFL head coach and had pretty good success. So he climbed alot to get to Head coach, he must have been doing something right.
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Tgm: Two point how many SB did Parcells win after Belichick left. You NY fans can!'t stand that he cam e to Bosto. And has had a great career than Parcell did at the Giants
+Heydudedolfan13 That's not valid. Belichick was coaching those defenses. It's not like they were coaching in different eras. Parcells coached the boys in the mid 2000s, around the time Belichick was winning 3 Superbowls in 4 years and going 16-0.
heydudedolfan13 whether or not the game "passed Parcells by" is irrelevent. Parcells didn't win a Superbowl without Belichick as the coordinator and they were HCs at the same time. Those are facts. You are giving me your feelings. No one cares about your feelings, but you and your mother.
Belichick never won without Brady. It is not like his time as the HC of Cleveland was that memorable. Parcells went to the Super Bowl with the Giants with two different QBs, the Patriots, and took the Jets to the AFC Championship game. Also Dallas, well somethings cannot be fixed.
Bill went 5-11 with the Pats his first yr as coach and was 0-2 before Mo lewis blessed the patriots with the hit that unleashed the greatest QB in the history of football and awakened the patriots dynasty
@JBSptfn You were saying? Brady went 11-5 in Tampa Bay, took his new team to the Super Bowl in his first season with them and won his 7th ring and 5th SB MVP. Bill? 7-9 and out of playoff contention. Tom Brady was never a system quarterback, excelling in the different systems in Michigan, New England and Tampa Bay.
Parcells is better than Belichick. He took a bad Giant team & won 2 SBs. He then went to a terrible Pats team & took them to the SB. Then he took a terrible Jet team & took them to the championship game. Then went to an awful Cowboy team & took them to the playoffs. Thats the mark of a great coach or manager. Thats what Vince Lombardi did. Thats what Billy Martin did.
Parcells is upset because before Bill Belichick won those 3 super Bowls Parcels was looked at as the best NFL HC since Lombardi all around the league. Now he is an after thought and it is just Belichick and Lombardi and everyone else.
Screw all of them! Jealous haters is all it is! I refereed hockey for 20 years. Before every face off, either me or my partner would get the puck. If it felt odd, like a chip was taken out of it, the puck was removed from the game and replaced. The NFL officials touch the football after every single play! And before the next play can begin. If there was anything unusual about that ball, they should've done something about it. It's their job! They continued to spot the football for the next play. Tom Brady played with the ball NFL officials placed there for him to use. Case dismissed! Enjoy your 6 Rings! So Far. . .
I see people in the comments saying crap like "Belichik won without Parcells, but Parcells never won without Belichik." Where do you think Belichick learned coaching!? Do you think if you had given Parcells Tom Brady, he might not have won more Super Bowls!?
@@profd65 2 superbowls don't equate to legends, give yourself some years your realize that, legend are Lombardi, knoll, Walsh & belichick, 4 superbowls or more
I wonder what career Belichick would have had of he didn't get get lucky picking Brady. I hope he coaches for another 10 years after Brady leaves so we can see.
When hosting Bill Parcells, Nick Saban, Rick Pitino, etc., why do sports talk radio hosts refer to them only as "Coach"? He/she isn't *their* coach. Is it deemed disrespectful just to call him "Bill"?
You're right. When did this become the norm? Probably about the same time that chef's within a restaurant started being called chef instead of their name like they're a fucking doctor or something.
It's not a thing about spots talk show hosts, per se. It's about players and coaches, ant the relationships and respect that develops between them. For example: Larry Bird played for one semester for Bobby Knight at Univ. of Indiana. Mr. Bird always refers to Mr. Knight as "Coach Knight." To this day. Bill Walton always refers to John Wooden as "Coach Wooden." The great players always refer to the great coaches as "Coach XXXX." Even if they did not play for them. Correspondingly: Sports announcers and analysts, especially those who are ex-players, will refer to a successful coach as "Coach.' Simply, but importantly, an expression of very high respect.
Way to not ask Parcells on why he abandoned a AFC Championship team to go coach a 1-15 Jets team. He was on the phone with the Jets the week of the Super Bowl. Again, Hall of Fame coach, but he is in a glass house
Bullshit. Bellichick is a defensive coach, and how many great defensive seasons have the Patriots had? Hm??? Nobody thinks of the Patriots as a defensive team. Bellichick's Giants defense was great because it had two future Hall of Famer's on it.
How old are you? 12? The first three SB wins the patriots had they had the best defense's in the league. They shut down the best offensive team in history at the time when they beat the rams. You're only thinking of the patriots of the past 10 years who have been more offensive because of Tom Brady's growth as a great QB. Do some research before you spew out bullshit, nobody thinks of the patriots as an defensive team NOW but the first half of bill's tenure they were known as one of the best defensive teams in history.
Zachary Pitz The validity of your claim is easy enough to check. I looked at Football Outsiders for the years the Patriots won the Super Bowl, and this is where the team's defense was ranked: 2001 #13 2003 #2 2004 #7 2014 #12 Not bad at all, but certainly not dominating, legendary, or as you put it, "the best."
Zachary Pitz Considering Willie McGinnest, Roman Phifer, Ty Law and Teddy B are friends of mine, you're absolutely correct! They were the first to "Decode Peyton Manning and Marvin Harrison"
profd65 First of all, with all due respect I would say the defense that represents the team that won the Super Bowl is "The Best!" Moreover, if the core members of the Patriots defense won "3 Super Bowls" wouldn't that be "legendary?" Secondly, other than the Seahawks, I don't think the Patriots faced a defense ranked higher than New England when they met in the Super Bowl? If they did... please refer to my initial point. 😉
Is Parcells actually talking about loyalty!? Negotiating his next job with the Jets on the weekend the Patriots were about to play in the Super Bowl disqualifies him from that holier than thou perch. A class 'A' jerk who ran the Jets, Cowboys and Dolphins into the ground. What a legacy!
Parcells comes off as more pathetic every time he opens his mouth. He is bitter and envious. Who honestly thinks Parcells was the better leader, who would rather work under Parcells than Belichick, just as a guy?
N. W. Dood I must be: I listened to Bill Bellichick's "scientific" spiel in the press conference about deflated footballs. That would make anybody oblivious to science.
Willy Machmer-Walker Yea, funny how the footballs on the Colts sideline had a psi that was perfectly in accordance with the rules. What does your high school teacher have to say about that? People believe what they want to believe.
Good coach. I don't take everything he says as gospel though. He let slip that the one time he was carried by his players, he had asked them to. Kind of... gross, I guess? This was after the defense put Belichick on their shoulders spontaneously a couple weeks prior.
I don't understand what kind of scouts were on the watch at that time? Brady was the starting quarterback on at that time a national powerhouse team that won the national championship in 1998? Yes he was the back up...but the next two years was 20-2 with two bowl wins and beat Alabama in 2000? and you don't even give the guy a good look? scouts are sometimes worthless....now suck on this...6 SB appearances and 4 rings! not to mention number one all time win percentage in history as a QB. Yup? good job scouts on letting Brady go!
Retired Michigan may have relied mostly on their defense during those years. Also, just because someone succeeds at the college level doesn't mean they'll work out in the NFL. Just look at Tim Tebow
Okay remember a guy named Johnny manzel beat a pretty good Bama team too and as for Tom Brady and all NFL scouts they all fail to see the talent. ... sometimes it's better to be lucky than good I guess
Parcells was not Belichicks mentor, maybe he thought himself as such, but Parcells was too shortsighted and "such a deal maker". I saw another interview with Belichick, who is very fond of the Giants, not have a very high opinion on Parcells, in respect to offering solutions to a problem. Basically, Parcells had no original ideas, always shooting down other peoples solutions, but never offering solutions or ideas for any problems. Parcells had a great cast around him, but he did not respect any of them. I hated when the Patriots brought him in, and loathed the way he tried to screw with them at the end of the season. The guy was just wrong on so many things. Belichick even eliminated the patriots in'95(I think). One of the things that make Belichick is so successful is that he doesn't speak like a blow hard, a true Parcells hallmark. Without Belichick, Parcells is just another loud mouth, great entertainment, but no substance. “I didn’t begrudge Bill getting another job somewhere else,” Parcells says now. “In fact, I’m probably the one that got it for him.” In true NYC blowhard fashion, always taking credit when he had nothing to do with it. Really? shocked that Charlie Weiss testified against Parcells? that Weiss overheard Parcells speak ill of Belichick? Charlie realized Parcells was a back stabber and for it, got the boot from the Jets. Guess where Weiss ended up? How do you like them apples? Motor mouth, try using your brain before you open that cesspool. But wait, just in case the blowhard comment hasn't sunk in yet, Here's a snipet of a Parcells jealousy in NY with the Giants when Belichick drew up a blitz: There was one terrible moment, during a game, when Belichick called a blitz, and Parcells seemed to oppose it. They went ahead with it and the blitz worked - the other team had done what Belichick expected and not what Parcells had - but Parcells was furious, and over the open microphones in the middle of a game, he let go, “Yeah, you’re a genius, everyone knows it, a goddamn genius, but that’s why you failed as a head coach - that’s why you’ll never be a head coach… some genius.”
I can't believe what a hypocrite Parcells is. Belichick resigned from The Jets during the off season, unlike Parcells, who agreed to leave the Patriots for the Jets before Superbowl XXXI. He didn't even prepare the team for the game. Then he takes away Curtis Martin. I think it was Karma that made Parcells a mediocre coach after leaving the Patriots. Curtis Martin may be in the Hall Of Fame but he isn't a champion and I'm sure that that eats him alive every day.
Not true. Parcells flew home on HIS own dime after Packers shipped Pats 35 to 21. Late 3rd Q RB for the Pats closed the gap on 18 yard run to make it 27 to 21. Parcells wven said after the game that they actually had a chance but Farve drove to 8 point score late...Had Tuna been able to build the team the way he wanted to they could have beaten the Pack...
Parcells without Bill Bellicheck and tom coughlon was just a decent coach with no super Bowl wins or appearances. I say parcells was the 3rd best coach in the "Parcells coaching tree".
But Coughlin was the first coach in Jacksonvilles history and helped take an expansion team to the conference finals a few years later. He was a great college coach at a decent but by no means a destination college for top recruits at Boston College. he beat Lou Holtz undefeated Notre Dame Fighting Irish in South Bend, beat the Florida State Seminals and always played Miami tough. I do feel like he has trouble when things fall apart or don't come easy. his personality and couching style rubs players the wrong way. But he beat the 2007 Patriots with a great game plan and scheme. the 2011 Pats were a terrible team (I think it was statistically the worst defense in football) along with an offense with no goof RB, an injured Gronk and tthey traded Moss earlier in the season. but he still got them there and won. hes in charge again now in Jacksonville and they have taken huge steps forward. My knock on Parcells is / was he never stayed around long enough to have hard times. he always took over a terrible team that was badly mismanaged. he would draft well enough and get rid of problem players. his way of doing things turned bad teams into mediocre - pretty good teams. but left after any trouble started. without bellichick Parcells won nothing.
When we talk about the Jets decision to pass on Tom Brady, we have the advantage of hindsight knowing that Brady is soon to be inducted in the hall of fame and quite possibly the greatest quarterback of all time. Obviously, knowing that in mind, it's easy to claim oh the Jets made a mistake. However go back to 2000 and its not that obvious. The Jets drafted QB Chad Pennington that year, lets look at Brady v Pennington: Pennington started more games in college Pennington had better stats in college Pennington performed better at the combine Pennington was faster and had a stronger arm. Pennington had a higher potential accounting to most scouts. And they were partially right: Pennington was statistically the better quarterback up to the 2002 season before his career got plagued by injuries. Brady did however win a ring by that point, so you could argue that Brady was the better quarterback due to the better intangibles. All I'm saying is, if I had the choice between Pennington and Brady in the 2000 draft, I'd have taken Pennington.
"When Daunte Culpepper got hurt in 2001, they could have had Tom Brady as their backup instead of Spergon Wynn." Imagine that, given how well Moss and Brady worked together in 2007, if they started their venture in 2001. I'd estimate the Vikings would have gotten 1 ring before an intense Brady vs Rodgers NFC North battle over the last seven years. "The late Dick Rehbein was a smart man." Yeah, obviously it was a genius move in hindsight, but from an objective stand point of trying to look through it without hindsight, I just don't understand the logic of the Patriots draft choice; From the Pats perspective, you have a 3xpro-bowl QB and two other QBs under contract. Brady's college, combine and pro-day results raised a lot of red flags (but clearly Dick Rehbein saw more good then bad, I didn't lol). Why waste a pick on a questionable player in a position you don't need? Now that said, I don't know the full story. For example, how much talent was left in positions the Patriots did need filled? But yeah, it was clearly the right call in hindsight.
***** Dick Rehbein started out as a player for the Packers coached by Bart Starr. Starr saw that he did not have much talent as a player, but great potential as a coach. So he convinced Rehbein to join the Packers staff as an assistant. Perhaps the Packers' organization's tendency to evaluate QBs well rubbed off on him.
Trepur349 It was a 6th round comp pick - basically a throwaway pick. The Pats actually had Brady on the draft board, but decided to pass on him before pick 199 because they felt the value was not there yet. When they finally drafted him, BB claimed that it was because there was too much value left in there not too. That is still how he explains his draft picks to this day, so not much has changed.
PARCELS tells his team he's leaving...right before the 97 super bowl...big baby can do all the cooking and shopping for the groceries now...not in the same league as BB...not even close!
Not quite true in the sequence of the events. Kraft used to meddle, and when Kraft called Belichick, BB made sure Kraft was NOT to interfere with hus Coaching. Without thar promise Belichick retires. Look it up. Parcells was overruled re: building a great O line and wanted that TE. The GM wanted that WR that was out ofvthe NFL two years later. Parcells was right to walk; his contract with Pats was over. Parcells was great in his own right. Owners should never meddle in the business. See Belichick and college great Wooden. Owners just don't get it. They never will. Kraft is the only one.
The Patriots were the worst team in the NFL and probably all of sports when Bill Parcells took the team over in 1992. It is an absolute joke that he is not in the Patriots Hall of Fame. Bob Kraft lets the fans decide who gets in, and for some reason good but far from great third down back Kevin Faulk is in there while the guy who pretty much saved the team from obscurity is not. I love the Patriots as much as anyone and Kraft is a great owner, but it really bothers me how petty he is about this.
Who drafted Ty Law, Lawyer Milloy, Tedy Bruschi, Ted Johnson and Troy Brown? Bill Belichick won three Super Bowls with those players, plus Roman Phifer, Anthony Pleasant and Otis Smith among other Jets players he brought with him in 2001.
You forgot to mention the Pats were 5-11 in 89, 1-15 in 90, 6-10 in 91 and 2-14 in 92. And putting Rex Ryan in the same sentence as Parcells shows that you know less than nothing
Bill Parcells is nothing more than a loudmouth bully. If you look over BP's career, he never accomplished anything without BB doing the real work. BB has gone on to great things because BP no longer controlled him. Parcells threw the Patriots/Packers game in the second half...watch it and see how different he coached. His bags were already packed for the jokes aka jets. Good riddance to bad rubbish and thank you for being the ass you were/are and for BB realizing it and standing up to you. The draft picks were well worth getting you out of our lives and doing your grocery shopping elsewhere! GO PATS!!!!
Very Overrated Coach without Bill Belichick he he has 0 rings He also let the Pats down in super bowl XXXI flew back on a private flight and then left the team... Big Blowhard!
this coming from a guy who took a job with a division rival while he should of been game planning or a superbowl and he took thier best player (Curtis Martin). He's screwed over more teams than Patriots haters can count so I'm not sure what those dumb-dumbs are going on about. More wins playof wins and SB win than any team since the year 2000. All time leader in win%, winningest qb of all time, all time leader in playoff TD's, all time leader in playoff wins, 12 division titles, 9 AFC title games, 5 AFC titles, 5 superbowls, 3 rings, 2 SB MVP's, 16-0, GREATEST QB OF ALL TIME. forums.chargers.com/showthread.php?t=54495 Deal with it.
revo1974 Montana also had Jerry "Stickum" RIce (or Sticky Rice) for a major chunk of his career, while Brady only had Randy Moss for three years (with one of those, 2008, being the season where Brady got injured in the very first game and missed the entire season). Also, Montana's teams did not have to deal with a salary camp, so it was stocked with good players from year to year. Meanwhile, Brady's teams have very high amounts of turnover, and Belichick often puts it on Brady to cover up for deficiencies. There is a reason why when the Pats won SB 49, only Brady and Vince Wilfork have won SBs with the Pats before this one
Bournetolive Montana won 2 superbowls before Rice got there. Winning a superbowl is a team effort. Pat's overall had better defenses in my opinion. They also had it much easier getting to the superbowl because the AFC for the most part was a weak conference. When Joe played for the 49'ers the NFC was the dominant conference. They had to deal with epic defenses like the Bears and Giants. Joe's superbowl numbers are much better than Brady's. The 49ers weren't cheaters. The year they beat the Rams the Pats won because they cheated. The didn't deserve to even beat the Raiders and make it the superbowl that year. Pat's offense never dominated in superbowl games like the 49ers did. We can go back and forth. The bottom line is, the *vast* majority of experts and knowledgeable fans believe Montana was better. I haven't even met a non-Patriots fan who thinks Brady is better.
revo1974 I have met quite a few non-Pats fans who think the opposite, including Niners fans. Also, if you want an example of the Niners cheating other than stickum, just watch the episode of "A Football Life" on Bill Walsh, which details how the Niners tried to jam radio signals of opponents, especially in home playoff games. Also, I know that the Giants defenses were epic - how could they not be with the Big Blue Wrecking Crew and Bill Belichick as their DC then? Perhaps that was why Montana never won once against the Giants in the playoffs, and threw something like 4 or 5 picks to 1 TD in all those losses combined. Finally, the Patriots offenses never dominated in the early SB wins because of various reasons not related to Tom. In SB 36, the primary WR options were guys like David Patten and Troy Brown, the primary TE was Jermaine Wiggins and the primary RB was Antowain Smith. Meanwhile, Kurt Warner has guys like Tory Holt, Isaac Bruce, Ricky Proehl, and HOFer Marshall Faulk, while his o-line had HOFer Orlando Pace. The Pats skill positions improved somewhat in SB 38, with the addition of Deion Branch and David Givens, and this was reflected in the 32 points the Pats scored in that game. However, that game turned into a shootout because the Pats defense could not stop Jake Delhomme and his receivers like Steve Smith Sr. and Muhsin Muhammad. Meanwhile in SB39, the Pats skill position stayed the same except with the big addition of Corey Dillon, but the Eagles had guys like Terrell Owens. Meanwhile the Pats secondary in that game had both starting CBs Ty Law and Tyrone Poole on IR, and had to play guys like UDFA Randall Gay, 2nd year CB Asante Samuel (an unknown commodity back then), journeyman Earthwind Moreland, and even Troy Brown. There was a famous event before that SB where some Eagles players (including Owens) insulted the Patriots secondary and defense in general. (Continued)
revo1974 SB 42 was the biggest disappointment, and I believe that the defense did the best it could despite guys like Rodney Harrison, Junior Seau, and Tedy Bruschi being over the hill at that point. It was the offense that failed to produce, and much of that credit goes to the Giants d-line (who should have collectively received the SB MVP instead of Eli), with guys like Michael Strahan, Osi Umenyioura, and especially Justin Tuck. Of course, it did not help that the our best RG Stephen Neal got injured early on and had to leave the game, which basically took away our running game featuring Laurence Maroney (who liked to dance too much behind the LOS anyways) and also exposed Brady to that ferocious d-line. Brady also had an ankle injury that game, which limited his pocket movement and ability to avoid the rush. As for SB 46, the Pats were lucky to be there. The secondary that year was a mess, especially with Julian Edelman having to play corner and Matthew Slater having to play safety. Plus, Gronk was basically on one leg that game, and the Giants knew that they just have to put one defender on him. Finally, for SB 49, I don't think I have to tell to you (assuming you are a Niners fan) how hard it is to play against the Seahawks D. To score 28 points against it, especially 14 in the fourth quarter to mount that comeback, is no mean feat. Plus, our run defense was suspect, especially in short yardage situations, with Mayo (our best LB vs the run) on IR and Wilfork at 33 years old and his backups being guys like Sealver Siliga and Alan Branch. Then the Seahawks roll out a big guy 6' 5" like Chris Matthews, who had never caught an NFL pass in a game before the SB, and you can understand why the Pats were a bit blindsided by things and got that many points scored on them. All in all, Brady made it to six SBs and won four of them. Sure Montana won all of his SBs, but he only made to four, meaning he lost earlier in the playoffs in those other years. This is reflected by the fact that he has more one-and-dones than Brady. The GOAT conversation will always be controversial, but don't pretend that there is absolutely no argument for Brady to be in the that conversation at all.
I Like Brady. If he was on a different team(The Browns) he doesn't have 5 rings. If you put another top quarterback within that system (Elway,Rodgers Ect..) They could have 5 rings as well.
Nah... you're fooling yourself. The only QB's I would put in the same league with Brady is Montana and Marino. Rodgers is great but I would take the three I mentioned ahead of him, Elway is a top 6 no doubt. Marino had such a quick release and in today's pass happy offense, he would dominate.
Please don’t comment on football, your knowledge of the inner workings of the game is so laughable, you should honestly be embarrassed for yourself. You’ve quite clearly never played or coached at an even moderately serious level.
@@holly03282008 No, completely true. How many Super Bowls would they have won with Drew Bledsoe if he hadn’t been hit by Mo Lewis, forcing them to play Tom Brady? ZERO
198 teams, Big Bill Parcells? LOL. Snake oil salesman to the end Parcells. You slime'd your way to NY and did not win anything when you were allowed to "buy the groceries." Then you are grieved when the Bill B. wants to leave you for NE when you won't let him buy the groceries. Pretty ironic.
Parcel sound like Bill was nothing until he came back to him again. Guy trying to take credit for Bills work, sound salty af. Parcel, you haven’t won anything without Bill and Bill went to 9 sb and win 5 without you. Who do you think needs the other person more?
Shut your salty ass up, you fucking loser. Belichick is 10x the coach Parcells ever was, and you know that. Quit letting the envy get to your head, and just respect a great coach/team. Do you even realize how pathetic you people sound when you say this? Knowing that the Patriots never even cheated? It's just a sorry ass excuse that you dipshits use as material, in order to make it look like you actually have a reason for hating on NE. It's sad, and pretty pathetic too. Grow tf up buddy..
"Bill's done well..." lmao understatement of the century
6 Superbowl wins later
Billicheck or Parcells. ?
@@ariesxxxiled8817 Bilichick. Easily.
Yea all Belichick has done was copy Parcell's blueprint so...
The TRUTH of the matter is...the Jets ownership wasn't prepared to give Belichick the autonomy he required to run the team...to DO HIS JOB. Jets mistake...the rest is history. I've been grateful ever since.
@@lyrics2challenged Yes all is true. But if there is no Brady it don't matter. They don't win even 1 SB. He's the trigger man. Without him it doesn't matter. Defense does matter. And you can win a SB sometimes with a terrible Quarterback. Dilfer comes to mind. He won no where in the NFL but 1 year. But if you look over all the SBs the QB was the most important piece in almost all of them. Without one you never score. If you can't score it doesn't make any difference how good the defense is. Yes defense wins. But without some sort of QB not screwing it up you never win.
Jets are cursed. He and Tom would have been somehow mistreated or misused. Bill's first and 3rd season was bad with Pats, the Jets would have had no patience and cut him. (I forgot I'm from NY and actually like the jets
@@larrylindgren9484 The long long narrative that continues to this day: Without Brady Belichick doesn't succeed; without Belichick Brady doesn't succeed; Brady is a "system QB"; Bellichick was a losing coach with the Browns; without Brady Bellichick doesn't succeed; Mat Cassel had a winning record with the Pats when Brady was gone for the season; without Bellichick Brady doesn't succeed; and so on and so on, etc, etc.....
It's a wonder this pair of losers managed to hoist even one Lombardi Trophy.... hmmm?
@@lyrics2challenged he wasn't saying anything about Brady lol
@@codeysnow2980 The person who made the OG reply to his comment deleted his. I have given Brady more credit now, but I still gotta give it to Bill 60/40 or 55/45 lol.
Only reason Parcells resigned was because Kraft called up NYJ headquarters looking to talk to Belichick about the HC job in NE. Parcells got the fax from Kraft... then decided to resign to keep Belichick in NY and as HC there.
Belichick was sick of Parcells antics and wanted to get away from him. And THANK GOD he did.
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I'm a Giants fan since the 60's and Parcells was a good head coach Tom Coughlin was a good head coach, but, Bill Bellichick is a GREAT HEAD COACH.
Tom Coughlin beat Bill Bellichick in two Super Bowls. Plus his body of work does not show any cheating.
Don Romani _”Tom Coughlin beat Belichick in 2 Super Bowls”_ no, he did not. Any more than Chris Johnson “beat” Robert Kraft in those 2 games. Nor did Eli Manning beat Tom Brady. Neither Johnson nor Kraft nor Coughlin nor Belichick were on the field for a single play in either of those 2 gamesAnd Brady & Manning never faced each other across a line of scrimmage, Manning never intercepted a single pass, Brady never left a receiver in-covered, never missed an assignment or a tackle. . If you want to reduce“ the Giant 2 SB Victories to a simplistic sound bite it would be that *”the Giants’ D-Line overwhelmed the Pats O-Line, and in the NFL *NO* QB, (not Montana, not Brady, Not Manning, Not Elway, not Marino, *none of them no matter how great* can do their job if they are not given competent pass protection, You might reasonably assert that Dan Quinn “beat” Dante Scarnecchia. I’ve often wondered what role (if any) played by Matt Chatham (5 year Pats OLineman & one of the smartest linemen I’ve ever heard analyze interior line play) might have played in helping the Jets prepare for the Pats’O-line schemes. Not that I blame him for one second for doing so. Belichick let him go that season. If Matt substantially helped the Jets then this was the greatest “screw you, for trading me,Coach” moment in the history of the NFL, turning a MAGNIFICENT, unprecedented 18-0 season into a CRAPPY 18-1 season & snatching away the title of “greatest NFL Season of all time” from the entire organization. Approached only by Lagarrette Blount’s year in Philly.If I may humbly offer,on behalf of all those great, dedicated Pats veterans that Belichick sent packing for no apparent reason (Ty Law, Logan Mankins, Jamie Collins, Chandler Jones, Lagarrette Blount, Matt Chatham, Christian Fauria, Willie McGinist, Richard Seymour, etc.), my high level perspective if Matt did Coach up the Jets D-Line, “way to go , Matt, bit of a cumuppance, there, Bill.”
Bellichick was a great head coach when he has Tom Brady. Has been mediocre AT BEST before and after.
@@teefkay2What games were you watching? What you don't know, Coughlin & Belichick when they were on the Giants, would face each other in practice constantly. Coughlin 'O' against Belichick 'D'.
Parcells once said "you 2 guys going at it again?" Well Tom out-coached Belichick in both those SBs. He had Belichicks number!
@@jamesdavis6036 no amount of coaching produced either Tyree’s helmet catch or Manningham’s sideline catch. Both were simply “player execution at a critical juncture”. Either of those plays go the. Way one would expect 98 times out of 100, and the results of the game reverse. Same with Asante Samuel dropping easy interception, which would have produced a 19-0 season in ‘07.
Parcells is a great coach and where ever he went he built some extraordinary teams. He was blessed to have such a talented DC by his side. But lets remember, Pats fans were saying the same thing about Belichick after Weis and Crennell left. He couldn't win a super bowl without those two. Both are great Coaches, both command and deserve respect imo.
He had huge turnarounds where he went and thankfully Dallas was one team he never truly turned around
To think at the point this interview took place, Brady only had 3 SB wins, and since then he has now won 3 more , thank you Mo Lewis!
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04:47 Tom Brady conversation...
ProjectDystopia Haha you know we click it cos of Tom. W 😂
HA CHEAT ALWAYS
Gracias.
only 1 scout wanted to draft Tom Brady an old scout knick named whitey, who was only in the draft room out of respect because he was retiring, guess the eye test can pick GOAT's lol
Parcells was dead set on picking QB Chad Pennington in the 2000 draft. He wasn’t going to be persuaded to pick a second quarterback or taking Brady instead of Pennington. Instead of saying that, he says that he doesn’t remember anyone telling him about Brady. BS.
I'm sure Bill Belichick looks at his three rings (while he waits for his fourth one to be made) as a HC, then looks at his 2 as a DC and doesn't care what Bill Parcels has to say. If you ask Jets fan whether they'd want that 1st round draft pick or Belichick I'm sure they'd rather have Bill
Snakeofliberty I think it's more of a respect that because Parcells has made some not do friendly comments a few times
Snakeofliberty I never said he did
Jets are a joke
+Snakeofliberty Bill Belichick usually doesn't say anything negative about anyone.
+James Rockford patriots skill are a joke. All their plays made using knowledge they shouldn't have. This being just the tip of the cheating iceberg.
Parcells speaks like Bellichick own him something when is the other way around
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198 other teams had the chance to draft this guy
+dee leuo liking this comment for lolz
+dee leuo "198 other teams"
other teams had 198 chances to draft him?
yea that what the announcer said and i LOL'd
Probably been drinking...
New Yorkers are lucky as hell to have a sports commentator like Michael Kay. From hearing his voice in this segment, I'm thinking that I've heard him do Yankees radio coverage, and if that's him, he's brilliant and entertaining and astute and knowledgeable...in a way few other announcers are...
The two greatest coaches in nfl history...
Parcells is darth plageus, and belicheck is emperor palpatine
2019: Belichick is head coaching his 9th Super Bowl and 12th overall. Parcells who?
Without Parcells, there is no Belichick
@@velvetarcade6017 - Wow! Sammy boy, are you for real? Unbelievable!
That's right up there with Obama attempting to take credit for the Trump economy!
That's pure Fake News! You should be called, Sam Pinocchio. . .
@@keepingitreel...8037 That was a joke about The Trump economy right?
What was Parcells talking about when he said Charlie Weis testified against him? I don't remember that at all.
larrybrownsports.com/football/bill-parcells-charlie-weis-belichick-testimony/232825
Weis was a weenie. Parcells gave Weis his Big break hecwould have never gotten from anyone else. Karma hit Weis: 4th and 9vat their own 14vyard line, Matt Leinart hit that WR flat slot route then they score 8 plays later atvNote Dame. I think the score was 65 to 62, something like that. If ccx Weis wins that one game, spoiling the mighty YSC Trojans, Weis could have gotten any job he wanted. Now I kniq why Karma struck Weis hard.
'VI Rings' is ready to sail come spring!
Parcells is salty because BB has basically made him a footnote in the history of great NFL coaches.
Parcells has a unique definition of "loyalty", as in- it's ok when I do the wrong thing but not when another does the same. And like 31 other GMs, he rues the fact that he passed on Brady at least five times every single day of his life.
198 different teams lol
That would make a lot of division winners and the wild card round of the playoffs will last into May, LOL.
Well there were 198 picks before Brady, there were 198 opportunities for a team to pick Brady and a team passed on him before the Pats got to him. Sure he worded it poorly, but his logic was right.
He meant there were 198 teams better than the Jets
@@alanwong8307 And probably still only 2 wild card teams
I bet Parcells wasn't the nicest guy to him, and when he had a chance he took it. The Jets are not a chance they are a curse.
BB is the best......BP was great for sound bites : )
Belichick didn't trust Parcells not to meddle or return as head coach. He needed to leave. Belichick's won 4 super bowls and been to six without Parcells. Parcells never won a thing without Belichick. enough said.
Ted Cook, what team are you a fan of?
ROTFLMFAO, you suck at being a troll. That would make pretty much every quarterback's stats in history less than "mediocre". Did you get a dictionary from Santa yet, troll?
+ ted cook Never happened, troll. Everyone, including you, are jealous of Brady and Belichick and the Patriots. Keep dreaming, loser.
Haters gonna hate ....especially when it comes to the mighty Patriots. Do you believe in the Easter bunny too? No practice was ever filmed
Matt Cassel? 11-5 isn't exactly terrible...
When anyone says "Name a great coach in Any Sport named Bill"... 99 out of 100 are saying Belichick. Enough said really.
Bill Walsh.
@@l.rongardner2150 Nope. Belichick is superior to any coach in NFL history. Bill Walsh's 4 measly rings in the no salary cap era, is nothing compared to Belichick.
Brady was like the last kid picked in gym class.
😂😂 so true! but now he ain't that kid anymore.
He cheated like every player cheats...don't be jealous of greatness. Brady is the GOAT...and so is Belichick.
Rodgers cheated, Montana benefitted from Rice cheating, Big Ben cheated.
@@symbologee Brady IS the GOAT 💍💍💍💍💍💍💍
what a bunch of bitter old men. I think Bill holds some type of grudge because Bill. B will go down in history as a better coach then he was. Oh and if you're going to bring up Spygate, just remember where Bill.B got it from
xreturnwthhonorx Didn't the Jets want Parcells to have duel roles of being the head coach/general manager (like Belichick is in NE) but they couldn't due to Parcells contract so they went with Belichick instead? I don't blame Belichick for wanting to leave when a past team he coached for (who had some good pieces to work with) offered him pretty much complete control of the team plus he could get out of Parcells shadow and not have to look over his shoulder knowing the Jets will probably replace him with Parcells when they got the chance.
good point, bill learned how to spy on teams thanks to parcells hehehe
+xreturnwthhonorx I agree Belichick is the better head coach, But Parcells is a much better GM. Just look at all the players he drafted with the patriots between 93 and 96. So many of them were key pieces to the Patriots superbowl wins.
first year 1993
Drew Bledsoe
Chris Slade
Vincent Brisby
Troy Brown
1994
Willie McGinest
Max Lane
1995 (95 and 96 were great drafts, Multiple HOFers)
Ty Law
Ted Johnson
Curtis Martin
Jimmy Hitchcock
96
Terry Glenn
Lawyer Milloy
Tedy Bruschi
The Tuna rarely missed in the draft in the first 3 rounds and that is how you build a champion. Belichick had some really bad years drafting 06, 07, and 08 (except Mayo). He has been much better in the last few year drafting multiple pro-bowl caliber players.
+michael maloney I would take Parcells as Patriots GM because some of the draft picks were a tragedy
I would not take Parcells as a GM because Belichick needs full control over the roster to put together an efficient team. I'd rather win with whatever Bill picks up from the free agency heap (winning with a lot of help from Brady, mind you) than lose while drafting star after star who eventually leaves in free agency. And yes, free agency is also part of a GM's job, not just drafting.
Parcells sounds really salty g bill has my respect for getting out that giants organization before they collapsed
198 other teams, I thought the NFL had 3 teams?
BB did what was best for himself
People saying Parcells needed Belicheck or vice versa for success are all wrong - it's the players. The Giants were successful in the 80s - #1 reason they had Lawrence Taylor. Patriots success biggest reason is Tom Brady. Certainly lots of players and coaches also impact things, but having the best players makes coaches look a lot smarter.
Did you see the 2008 season? Did you see the first 4 weeks this year? Tom Brady helps but Belichick has had success and will have success without Brady.
Parcells took the Patriots to the Super Bowl without Tom Brady, Belichick has not done that.
Look, Somebody has had Aaron Rodgers. Someone had Peyton Manning. Someone had Joe Montana. It's not like having an incredibly good, talented, skilled, hard-working QB means you automatically win 6 Superbowls and have 8 appearances with 2 teams. That isn't the reality. The reality is that Belichick is able to game-plan to win with whatever he's got. The better players you give him, the more he'll win... but you don't give him players - he's making the draft decisions and Free Agency decisions too. He's got everything football-good about Tom Landry, Bill Walsh, and Bill Parcells wrapped up in one package. He's greater than them all.
If anyone thinks Brady goes somewhere else and wins 4 Superbowls, you're Crazy. If you think Belichick wins those 4 Superbowls without Brady, you're nuts. He coulda won some with Bledsoe, but you wouldn't be hearing all these journalists (who probably caught more baseballs with their eyes than their gloves) talking about how great Belichick is, unless he has Brady.
And, Brady coulda had a Kurt-Warner-like story late in his career, but Belichick was the one that took him in the draft and he was the one that picked him over Bledsoe. Without Belichick, Brady isn't what we know him to be.
The fact is, Montana and Walsh were the only ones remotely close to being as good together. Lots of great coaches and QBs have tried to do what Belichick and Brady have done, but when you look at how consistently great, not just good, they are year after year, no one can deny their greatness. Anyone who thinks the Pats always have the most talent is wrong. Anyone who thinks Brady is a prduct of Belichick's system is wrong. Anyone who thinks Brady is what makes up for Belichick's "bad" decisions is sorely mistaken. They're both great and they are greater together, still.
Actually...they call it a team sport for a reason...because they win and lose as a team.
symbologee So, every team wins 4 superbowls?
Parcells never won a Superbowl without Belichick as his defensive coordinator. And hasn't been back to one either. I think Belicheck is a better coach and the numbers show it.
parcells = zero superbowls without belichick.
any coach = zero superbowls without somebody
Anyone who can make the playoffs and win 10 or 11 games in a season with Quincy Carter at quarterback and converted fullback as the starting running back after taking over the mess Jerry Jones created in Dallas, can freaking do anything! Anyone who could say that probably never experienced him coaching their favorite team. I used to think he was overrated before he came to Dallas, after he left realized he deserved all the praise he ever received.
He went to the Giants, turned that sorry sack of a franchise into a perennial playoff contender that has lasted over 30 years
He went to the Jets, turned a 1-15 team into the playoffs with a few of his guys and that crappy roster.
He went to the Cowboys, turned a trainwreck into a playoff team and developed Tony Romo.
But he sucks without Belichick. Who learned a ton of his craft directly from him. Ok.
Creepy Stares sometimes the apprentice is better than the master. Belichick has five SB wins, w/ a shifting coaching staff
Frankincensed
Who chooses the players? 30 teams-GM, Cowboys-Jerry, Patriots? Figure it out.
I became a fan of the pats once parcells came over, but for him to talk about loyalty is a huge joke, preaches team and behind the pats back he was negotiating with jets, he took a private plane w/family and friends and left the pats flat after the SB, from that day forward i was disgusted w/him and his wanna do all the cooking garbage, best decision i ever made, stayed w/the pats, 6 SB wins later lol best thing Kraft did was let his ass go, he won nothing w/out BB, Go Pats Nation!
Brady was king of the comeback in Michigan...watch the videos.
A great book!
If you watch on of the giants games when parcells said to belichick what you're doing isn't working and coach belichick asks what's wrong parcells responds I don't know but what it is but it ain't working,then coach belichick says what do you want to do about it and parcells says I don't know what to do about it but what you're doing isn't working then coach belichick says something like we'll let me get on with it and this is in the middle of a game so it shows that head coach parcells had no idea of how to fix a play and interfered with defensive coach belichick on a defensive play with no plan of action,I think that this lets you know everything about parcells,the other coaches made him who he was and he still couldn't give them credit
In a way you are totally right. Bill wasn't a xs and os guy. There's another part of coaching which is motivating players and staff, managing egos and extracting the best out of your staff and players, doing anything legal or illegal to get better players on your team. Managing media, playing the public. Basically he's a team manager, as opposed to a play by play coach. Also the guy climbed a really steep hill to make it to the top of his career, I think as a player tops he made was NFL practice team for 1 year. He started as a line backers coach to some team I've never heard of because he didn't have pedigree or lineage, was line backers coach to army and few small schools then defence coordinator also small schools, finally air Force made him head Coach. After that he was defence coordinator in the NFL and after a few gigs as coordinator he finally was a NFL head coach and had pretty good success. So he climbed alot to get to Head coach, he must have been doing something right.
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Two point how many SB did Parcells win after Belichick left. You NY fans can!'t stand that he cam e to Bosto. And has had a great career than Parcell did at the Giants
+Heydudedolfan13 That's not valid. Belichick was coaching those defenses. It's not like they were coaching in different eras. Parcells coached the boys in the mid 2000s, around the time Belichick was winning 3 Superbowls in 4 years and going 16-0.
heydudedolfan13 whether or not the game "passed Parcells by" is irrelevent. Parcells didn't win a Superbowl without Belichick as the coordinator and they were HCs at the same time. Those are facts.
You are giving me your feelings. No one cares about your feelings, but you and your mother.
I looked, Paecells never coached in the NFL. Don't know who that is
MagicKirin1 just remember Boston it was New York guys that brought you to success
Monday morning..well Tuesday...weather will be an equalizer..so much for that guess.
Belichick never won without Brady. It is not like his time as the HC of Cleveland was that memorable. Parcells went to the Super Bowl with the Giants with two different QBs, the Patriots, and took the Jets to the AFC Championship game. Also Dallas, well somethings cannot be fixed.
Tom Brady has never had a losing season in his entire career this includes highschool college and the pros the same isnt true for Bill
Bill went 5-11 with the Pats his first yr as coach and was 0-2 before Mo lewis blessed the patriots with the hit that unleashed the greatest QB in the history of football and awakened the patriots dynasty
@JBSptfn You were saying? Brady went 11-5 in Tampa Bay, took his new team to the Super Bowl in his first season with them and won his 7th ring and 5th SB MVP. Bill? 7-9 and out of playoff contention. Tom Brady was never a system quarterback, excelling in the different systems in Michigan, New England and Tampa Bay.
Parcells is better than Belichick. He took a bad Giant team & won 2 SBs. He then went to a terrible Pats team & took them to the SB. Then he took a terrible Jet team & took them to the championship game. Then went to an awful Cowboy team & took them to the playoffs. Thats the mark of a great coach or manager. Thats what Vince Lombardi did. Thats what Billy Martin did.
Parcells is upset because before Bill Belichick won those 3 super Bowls Parcels was looked at as the best NFL HC since Lombardi all around the league. Now he is an after thought and it is just Belichick and Lombardi and everyone else.
GOAT coach = Bill Belichick.
Name ONE other NFL Quarterback who defended Brady when all the Deflate Gate BS was going on?
It wasn't Joe Montana OR Kurt Warner or Arron Rogers.
Screw all of them! Jealous haters is all it is!
I refereed hockey for 20 years. Before every face off, either me or my partner would get the puck.
If it felt odd, like a chip was taken out of it, the puck was removed from the game and replaced.
The NFL officials touch the football after every single play! And before the next play can begin.
If there was anything unusual about that ball, they should've done something about it. It's their job!
They continued to spot the football for the next play. Tom Brady played with the ball NFL officials placed
there for him to use. Case dismissed! Enjoy your 6 Rings!
So Far. . .
I see people in the comments saying crap like "Belichik won without Parcells, but Parcells never won without Belichik." Where do you think Belichick learned coaching!? Do you think if you had given Parcells Tom Brady, he might not have won more Super Bowls!?
patriot fans are the worst
Where did Belicick learn to coach...his dad (naval academy)..
Same with parcels.. his dad was a coach as well..
bills father literally wrote the book on scouting
Bill is so fucking jealous of bill its INSANE!!! you can just tell lol.
Jealous??? You're a fucking moron. Bill Parcells is a legend.
Overrated HC.
'Check is/was better.
profd65 in his own mind..
@@profd65 2 superbowls don't equate to legends, give yourself some years your realize that, legend are Lombardi, knoll, Walsh & belichick, 4 superbowls or more
I wonder what career Belichick would have had of he didn't get get lucky picking Brady. I hope he coaches for another 10 years after Brady leaves so we can see.
A mediocre one as HC. A great one as DC.
Parcells on not winning as much or being as good of coach as Belichick.
When hosting Bill Parcells, Nick Saban, Rick Pitino, etc., why do sports talk radio hosts refer to them only as "Coach"? He/she isn't *their* coach. Is it deemed disrespectful just to call him "Bill"?
You're right. When did this become the norm? Probably about the same time that chef's within a restaurant started being called chef instead of their name like they're a fucking doctor or something.
It's not a thing about spots talk show hosts, per se. It's about players and coaches, ant the relationships and respect that develops between them. For example: Larry Bird played for one semester for Bobby Knight at Univ. of Indiana. Mr. Bird always refers to Mr. Knight as "Coach Knight." To this day. Bill Walton always refers to John Wooden as "Coach Wooden." The great players always refer to the great coaches as "Coach XXXX." Even if they did not play for them. Correspondingly: Sports announcers and analysts, especially those who are ex-players, will refer to a successful coach as "Coach.' Simply, but importantly, an expression of very high respect.
why be loyal when you feel like you can't win/advance where you are anymore ?
Way to not ask Parcells on why he abandoned a AFC Championship team to go coach a 1-15 Jets team. He was on the phone with the Jets the week of the Super Bowl. Again, Hall of Fame coach, but he is in a glass house
Parcells is right up there with the 1919 Chicago 'Black Sox,' throwing the Championship.
Call him, "Shoeless Bill"
Not quite true. The Pats GM was the final say on Draft picks. Parcells was in last year of contract. Look it up.
parcells could never win without belichick.
belichick is the greatest coach of all time.has to hurt parcells hahahaha
GOPATS
Bullshit. Bellichick is a defensive coach, and how many great defensive seasons have the Patriots had? Hm??? Nobody thinks of the Patriots as a defensive team. Bellichick's Giants defense was great because it had two future Hall of Famer's on it.
How old are you? 12? The first three SB wins the patriots had they had the best defense's in the league. They shut down the best offensive team in history at the time when they beat the rams.
You're only thinking of the patriots of the past 10 years who have been more offensive because of Tom Brady's growth as a great QB.
Do some research before you spew out bullshit, nobody thinks of the patriots as an defensive team NOW but the first half of bill's tenure they were known as one of the best defensive teams in history.
Zachary Pitz
The validity of your claim is easy enough to check. I looked at Football Outsiders for the years the Patriots won the Super Bowl, and this is where the team's defense was ranked:
2001 #13
2003 #2
2004 #7
2014 #12
Not bad at all, but certainly not dominating, legendary, or as you put it, "the best."
Zachary Pitz Considering Willie McGinnest, Roman Phifer, Ty Law and Teddy B are friends of mine, you're absolutely correct! They were the first to "Decode Peyton Manning and Marvin Harrison"
profd65 First of all, with all due respect I would say the defense that represents the team that won the Super Bowl is "The Best!" Moreover, if the core members of the Patriots defense won "3 Super Bowls" wouldn't that be "legendary?" Secondly, other than the Seahawks, I don't think the Patriots faced a defense ranked higher than New England when they met in the Super Bowl? If they did... please refer to my initial point. 😉
Is Parcells actually talking about loyalty!? Negotiating his next job with the Jets on the weekend the Patriots were about to play in the Super Bowl disqualifies him from that holier than thou perch. A class 'A' jerk who ran the Jets, Cowboys and Dolphins into the ground. What a legacy!
Mac McFall that's true. He didn't even fly back with the team after the game
pt1gard You probably know this too, but Belichick's Browns whooped the Patriots of Parcells and Bledsoe in a play-off game back in the 90s.
Yup.. the 90s Browns where the NFL version of the Expos.. if they stayed together they would've been great...
TC Roland Right, they became the Ravens and, one white suit later, they were Super Bowl champs!
Loyalty lol yeah ok a owner will be quick to fire a coach after one season. There no loyalty anymore and bill did what he felt was right
I never liked Parcells.
The MoFo totally f'd over the Pats in 1997.
He's got some nerve to talk about loyalty.
Parcells comes off as more pathetic every time he opens his mouth. He is bitter and envious. Who honestly thinks Parcells was the better leader, who would rather work under Parcells than Belichick, just as a guy?
wow, Parcells did not do his homework on how well the Pats play in bad weather...
Deflated footballs help.
profd65 obviously, you are oblivious to science...congrats!!!
N. W. Dood
I must be: I listened to Bill Bellichick's "scientific" spiel in the press conference about deflated footballs. That would make anybody oblivious to science.
profd65 it's high school level physics/chemistry PV=nRT. Pressure(P) is proportional to temperature(T) you numbnut
Willy Machmer-Walker
Yea, funny how the footballs on the Colts sideline had a psi that was perfectly in accordance with the rules. What does your high school teacher have to say about that?
People believe what they want to believe.
Good coach. I don't take everything he says as gospel though. He let slip that the one time he was carried by his players, he had asked them to. Kind of... gross, I guess? This was after the defense put Belichick on their shoulders spontaneously a couple weeks prior.
I don't understand what kind of scouts were on the watch at that time? Brady was the starting quarterback on at that time a national powerhouse team that won the national championship in 1998? Yes he was the back up...but the next two years was 20-2 with two bowl wins and beat Alabama in 2000? and you don't even give the guy a good look? scouts are sometimes worthless....now suck on this...6 SB appearances and 4 rings! not to mention number one all time win percentage in history as a QB. Yup? good job scouts on letting Brady go!
Don't forget spygate
Royals Fan 4 when they were spying, it was legal. The rules didn't change until 07
Retired Michigan may have relied mostly on their defense during those years. Also, just because someone succeeds at the college level doesn't mean they'll work out in the NFL. Just look at Tim Tebow
Okay remember a guy named Johnny manzel beat a pretty good Bama team too and as for Tom Brady and all NFL scouts they all fail to see the talent. ... sometimes it's better to be lucky than good I guess
Can't go with how many big games a guy won in school if so every Bama QB in the past 10 years is hall of fame material
Parcells was not Belichicks mentor, maybe he thought himself as such, but Parcells was too shortsighted and "such a deal maker". I saw another interview with Belichick, who is very fond of the Giants, not have a very high opinion on Parcells, in respect to offering solutions to a problem. Basically, Parcells had no original ideas, always shooting down other peoples solutions, but never offering solutions or ideas for any problems.
Parcells had a great cast around him, but he did not respect any of them. I hated when the Patriots brought him in, and loathed the way he tried to screw with them at the end of the season. The guy was just wrong on so many things. Belichick even eliminated the patriots in'95(I think). One of the things that make Belichick is so successful is that he doesn't speak like a blow hard, a true Parcells hallmark. Without Belichick, Parcells is just another loud mouth, great entertainment, but no substance.
“I didn’t begrudge Bill getting another job somewhere else,” Parcells says now. “In fact, I’m probably the one that got it for him.” In true NYC blowhard fashion, always taking credit when he had nothing to do with it.
Really? shocked that Charlie Weiss testified against Parcells? that Weiss overheard Parcells speak ill of Belichick? Charlie realized Parcells was a back stabber and for it, got the boot from the Jets. Guess where Weiss ended up? How do you like them apples? Motor mouth, try using your brain before you open that cesspool.
But wait, just in case the blowhard comment hasn't sunk in yet, Here's a snipet of a Parcells jealousy in NY with the Giants when Belichick drew up a blitz: There was one terrible moment, during a game, when Belichick called a blitz, and Parcells seemed to oppose it. They went ahead with it and the blitz worked - the other team had done what Belichick expected and not what Parcells had - but Parcells was furious, and over the open microphones in the middle of a game, he let go, “Yeah, you’re a genius, everyone knows it, a goddamn genius, but that’s why you failed as a head coach - that’s why you’ll never be a head coach… some genius.”
I can't believe what a hypocrite Parcells is. Belichick resigned from The Jets during the off season, unlike Parcells, who agreed to leave the Patriots for the Jets before Superbowl XXXI. He didn't even prepare the team for the game. Then he takes away Curtis Martin. I think it was Karma that made Parcells a mediocre coach after leaving the Patriots. Curtis Martin may be in the Hall Of Fame but he isn't a champion and I'm sure that that eats him alive every day.
Ken Coakley kraft was stupid for not giving Parcells control
Not true. Parcells flew home on HIS own dime after Packers shipped Pats 35 to 21. Late 3rd Q RB for the Pats closed the gap on 18 yard run to make it 27 to 21. Parcells wven said after the game that they actually had a chance but Farve drove to 8 point score late...Had Tuna been able to build the team the way he wanted to they could have beaten the Pack...
I feel like Bill Parcells is SALTY
Parcells is the last person that should talk about loyalty, if parcells was truly loyal he would’ve stayed with the Giants!
G Money Slot Machine Videos 99 percent of professional coaches are loyal to one thing and one thing only;. MONEY BABY, MONEY!!!!
Without Belichick, Parcells is nothing!
The JETS sound like a joke organization back then and has remained the same.
They have always been a 2nd rate organization and their fans are lowlives
Jessica Eaton 48 years ago, actually. But yeah, they're a total joke.
Just End The Season that is what J.E.T.S. means...
worst trade in the history of sports. #jets
Owner Woody Johnson of the Jets is not committed to winning. Period. I don't care how hard he yells. Results show me to be right.
Parcells without Bill Bellicheck and tom coughlon was just a decent coach with no super
Bowl wins or appearances. I say parcells was the 3rd best coach in the "Parcells coaching tree".
But Coughlin was the first coach in Jacksonvilles history and helped take an expansion team to the conference finals a few years later. He was a great college coach at a decent but by no means a destination college for top recruits at Boston College. he beat Lou Holtz undefeated Notre Dame Fighting Irish in South Bend, beat the Florida State Seminals and always played Miami tough. I do feel like he has trouble when things fall apart or don't come easy. his personality and couching style rubs players the wrong way. But he beat the 2007 Patriots with a great game plan and scheme. the 2011 Pats were a terrible team (I think it was statistically the worst defense in football) along with an offense with no goof RB, an injured Gronk and tthey traded Moss earlier in the season. but he still got them there and won. hes in charge again now in Jacksonville and they have taken huge steps forward. My knock on Parcells is / was he never stayed around long enough to have hard times. he always took over a terrible team that was badly mismanaged. he would draft well enough and get rid of problem players. his way of doing things turned bad teams into mediocre - pretty good teams. but left after any trouble started. without bellichick Parcells won nothing.
Parcells: "198 other teams had a chance to draft this guy (Tom Brady)".
Me: There were 198 teams in the NFL in 2000?
Hows that working for you now coach?? #parcellscrying #6andcounting #belichickGOAT
The only ring Parcells got was a toilet seat.
Ted is Cooked...
When we talk about the Jets decision to pass on Tom Brady, we have the advantage of hindsight knowing that Brady is soon to be inducted in the hall of fame and quite possibly the greatest quarterback of all time. Obviously, knowing that in mind, it's easy to claim oh the Jets made a mistake.
However go back to 2000 and its not that obvious. The Jets drafted QB Chad Pennington that year, lets look at Brady v Pennington:
Pennington started more games in college
Pennington had better stats in college
Pennington performed better at the combine
Pennington was faster and had a stronger arm.
Pennington had a higher potential accounting to most scouts.
And they were partially right:
Pennington was statistically the better quarterback up to the 2002 season before his career got plagued by injuries. Brady did however win a ring by that point, so you could argue that Brady was the better quarterback due to the better intangibles.
All I'm saying is, if I had the choice between Pennington and Brady in the 2000 draft, I'd have taken Pennington.
"When Daunte Culpepper got hurt in 2001, they could have had Tom Brady as their backup instead of Spergon Wynn."
Imagine that, given how well Moss and Brady worked together in 2007, if they started their venture in 2001. I'd estimate the Vikings would have gotten 1 ring before an intense Brady vs Rodgers NFC North battle over the last seven years.
"The late Dick Rehbein was a smart man."
Yeah, obviously it was a genius move in hindsight, but from an objective stand point of trying to look through it without hindsight, I just don't understand the logic of the Patriots draft choice;
From the Pats perspective, you have a 3xpro-bowl QB and two other QBs under contract. Brady's college, combine and pro-day results raised a lot of red flags (but clearly Dick Rehbein saw more good then bad, I didn't lol).
Why waste a pick on a questionable player in a position you don't need?
Now that said, I don't know the full story. For example, how much talent was left in positions the Patriots did need filled?
But yeah, it was clearly the right call in hindsight.
Trepur349 when your talking about draft mistakes, all you have to mention is 'Ryan Leaf'
Trepur349 when your talking about draft mistakes, all you have to mention is 'Ryan Leaf'
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Dick Rehbein started out as a player for the Packers coached by Bart Starr. Starr saw that he did not have much talent as a player, but great potential as a coach. So he convinced Rehbein to join the Packers staff as an assistant. Perhaps the Packers' organization's tendency to evaluate QBs well rubbed off on him.
Trepur349
It was a 6th round comp pick - basically a throwaway pick. The Pats actually had Brady on the draft board, but decided to pass on him before pick 199 because they felt the value was not there yet. When they finally drafted him, BB claimed that it was because there was too much value left in there not too. That is still how he explains his draft picks to this day, so not much has changed.
PARCELS tells his team he's leaving...right before the 97 super bowl...big baby can do all the cooking and shopping for the groceries now...not in the same league as BB...not even close!
Not quite true in the sequence of the events. Kraft used to meddle, and when Kraft called Belichick, BB made sure Kraft was NOT to interfere with hus Coaching. Without thar promise Belichick retires. Look it up.
Parcells was overruled re: building a great O line and wanted that TE. The GM wanted that WR that was out ofvthe NFL two years later. Parcells was right to walk; his contract with Pats was over. Parcells was great in his own right. Owners should never meddle in the business. See Belichick and college great Wooden. Owners just don't get it. They never will. Kraft is the only one.
Parcells is a tad bit jealous.
Parcells isn't even in the same league as Belichik.
The Patriots were the worst team in the NFL and probably all of sports when Bill Parcells took the team over in 1992. It is an absolute joke that he is not in the Patriots Hall of Fame. Bob Kraft lets the fans decide who gets in, and for some reason good but far from great third down back Kevin Faulk is in there while the guy who pretty much saved the team from obscurity is not. I love the Patriots as much as anyone and Kraft is a great owner, but it really bothers me how petty he is about this.
Who drafted Ty Law, Lawyer Milloy, Tedy Bruschi, Ted Johnson and Troy Brown? Bill Belichick won three Super Bowls with those players, plus Roman Phifer, Anthony Pleasant and Otis Smith among other Jets players he brought with him in 2001.
Booby Grier was the GM...fwiw.
You forgot to mention the Pats were 5-11 in 89, 1-15 in 90, 6-10 in 91 and 2-14 in 92. And putting Rex Ryan in the same sentence as Parcells shows that you know less than nothing
He did draft, Brady and Seymour though.
The Patriots were also 1-15, 2-14 and 4-12? The 3 years before Parcells took over. Hugh Millen was a bad decision for starting QB.
Parcels ego........I think it’s funny.....🤪
Bill Parcells is nothing more than a loudmouth bully. If you look over BP's career, he never accomplished anything without BB doing the real work. BB has gone on to great things because BP no longer controlled him. Parcells threw the Patriots/Packers game in the second half...watch it and see how different he coached. His bags were already packed for the jokes aka jets. Good riddance to bad rubbish and thank you for being the ass you were/are and for BB realizing it and standing up to you. The draft picks were well worth getting you out of our lives and doing your grocery shopping elsewhere! GO PATS!!!!
Yeah, and by the way, how have your groceries panned out, loser?
Very Overrated Coach without Bill Belichick he he has 0 rings
He also let the Pats down in super bowl XXXI flew back on a
private flight and then left the team...
Big Blowhard!
Overrated?? Quit tripping!
Parcells = greatest overrated coach in history
Jets are just horrible... they will go 4 and 12 this season
Parcells was a great coach but he has lost a step mentally
bill Parcells is a Trumper
this coming from a guy who took a job with a division rival while he should of been game planning or a superbowl and he took thier best player (Curtis Martin). He's screwed over more teams than Patriots haters can count so I'm not sure what those dumb-dumbs are going on about. More wins playof wins and SB win than any team since the year 2000. All time leader in win%, winningest qb of all time, all time leader in playoff TD's, all time leader in playoff wins, 12 division titles, 9 AFC title games, 5 AFC titles, 5 superbowls, 3 rings, 2 SB MVP's, 16-0, GREATEST QB OF ALL TIME.
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Deal with it.
I have Brady ranked #2 behind Montana, who I both seen play. Most experts have Unitas #2, but I didn't see him play.
revo1974
Montana also had Jerry "Stickum" RIce (or Sticky Rice) for a major chunk of his career, while Brady only had Randy Moss for three years (with one of those, 2008, being the season where Brady got injured in the very first game and missed the entire season). Also, Montana's teams did not have to deal with a salary camp, so it was stocked with good players from year to year. Meanwhile, Brady's teams have very high amounts of turnover, and Belichick often puts it on Brady to cover up for deficiencies. There is a reason why when the Pats won SB 49, only Brady and Vince Wilfork have won SBs with the Pats before this one
Bournetolive Montana won 2 superbowls before Rice got there. Winning a superbowl is a team effort. Pat's overall had better defenses in my opinion. They also had it much easier getting to the superbowl because the AFC for the most part was a weak conference. When Joe played for the 49'ers the NFC was the dominant conference. They had to deal with epic defenses like the Bears and Giants. Joe's superbowl numbers are much better than Brady's.
The 49ers weren't cheaters. The year they beat the Rams the Pats won because they cheated. The didn't deserve to even beat the Raiders and make it the superbowl that year. Pat's offense never dominated in superbowl games like the 49ers did.
We can go back and forth. The bottom line is, the *vast* majority of experts and knowledgeable fans believe Montana was better. I haven't even met a non-Patriots fan who thinks Brady is better.
revo1974
I have met quite a few non-Pats fans who think the opposite, including Niners fans. Also, if you want an example of the Niners cheating other than stickum, just watch the episode of "A Football Life" on Bill Walsh, which details how the Niners tried to jam radio signals of opponents, especially in home playoff games. Also, I know that the Giants defenses were epic - how could they not be with the Big Blue Wrecking Crew and Bill Belichick as their DC then? Perhaps that was why Montana never won once against the Giants in the playoffs, and threw something like 4 or 5 picks to 1 TD in all those losses combined.
Finally, the Patriots offenses never dominated in the early SB wins because of various reasons not related to Tom. In SB 36, the primary WR options were guys like David Patten and Troy Brown, the primary TE was Jermaine Wiggins and the primary RB was Antowain Smith. Meanwhile, Kurt Warner has guys like Tory Holt, Isaac Bruce, Ricky Proehl, and HOFer Marshall Faulk, while his o-line had HOFer Orlando Pace. The Pats skill positions improved somewhat in SB 38, with the addition of Deion Branch and David Givens, and this was reflected in the 32 points the Pats scored in that game. However, that game turned into a shootout because the Pats defense could not stop Jake Delhomme and his receivers like Steve Smith Sr. and Muhsin Muhammad. Meanwhile in SB39, the Pats skill position stayed the same except with the big addition of Corey Dillon, but the Eagles had guys like Terrell Owens. Meanwhile the Pats secondary in that game had both starting CBs Ty Law and Tyrone Poole on IR, and had to play guys like UDFA Randall Gay, 2nd year CB Asante Samuel (an unknown commodity back then), journeyman Earthwind Moreland, and even Troy Brown. There was a famous event before that SB where some Eagles players (including Owens) insulted the Patriots secondary and defense in general. (Continued)
revo1974
SB 42 was the biggest disappointment, and I believe that the defense did the best it could despite guys like Rodney Harrison, Junior Seau, and Tedy Bruschi being over the hill at that point. It was the offense that failed to produce, and much of that credit goes to the Giants d-line (who should have collectively received the SB MVP instead of Eli), with guys like Michael Strahan, Osi Umenyioura, and especially Justin Tuck. Of course, it did not help that the our best RG Stephen Neal got injured early on and had to leave the game, which basically took away our running game featuring Laurence Maroney (who liked to dance too much behind the LOS anyways) and also exposed Brady to that ferocious d-line. Brady also had an ankle injury that game, which limited his pocket movement and ability to avoid the rush.
As for SB 46, the Pats were lucky to be there. The secondary that year was a mess, especially with Julian Edelman having to play corner and Matthew Slater having to play safety. Plus, Gronk was basically on one leg that game, and the Giants knew that they just have to put one defender on him.
Finally, for SB 49, I don't think I have to tell to you (assuming you are a Niners fan) how hard it is to play against the Seahawks D. To score 28 points against it, especially 14 in the fourth quarter to mount that comeback, is no mean feat. Plus, our run defense was suspect, especially in short yardage situations, with Mayo (our best LB vs the run) on IR and Wilfork at 33 years old and his backups being guys like Sealver Siliga and Alan Branch. Then the Seahawks roll out a big guy 6' 5" like Chris Matthews, who had never caught an NFL pass in a game before the SB, and you can understand why the Pats were a bit blindsided by things and got that many points scored on them.
All in all, Brady made it to six SBs and won four of them. Sure Montana won all of his SBs, but he only made to four, meaning he lost earlier in the playoffs in those other years. This is reflected by the fact that he has more one-and-dones than Brady. The GOAT conversation will always be controversial, but don't pretend that there is absolutely no argument for Brady to be in the that conversation at all.
4:44
I Like Brady. If he was on a different team(The Browns) he doesn't have 5 rings. If you put another top quarterback within that system (Elway,Rodgers Ect..) They could have 5 rings as well.
Nah... you're fooling yourself. The only QB's I would put in the same league with Brady is Montana and Marino. Rodgers is great but I would take the three I mentioned ahead of him, Elway is a top 6 no doubt. Marino had such a quick release and in today's pass happy offense, he would dominate.
Please don’t comment on football, your knowledge of the inner workings of the game is so laughable, you should honestly be embarrassed for yourself. You’ve quite clearly never played or coached at an even moderately serious level.
Brady is on a different team now with a different system. Didn’t matter. Won his 7th ring.
Parcells isn't even in the same ball park as belichick... Get out of here bro
Belicheck and Craft zero Superbowls without Brady!
Not true. Also Belichick made sure Brady got picked up. Better late than never.
@@holly03282008 No, completely true. How many Super Bowls would they have won with Drew Bledsoe if he hadn’t been hit by Mo Lewis, forcing them to play Tom Brady? ZERO
198 teams, Big Bill Parcells? LOL. Snake oil salesman to the end Parcells. You slime'd your way to NY and did not win anything when you were allowed to "buy the groceries." Then you are grieved when the Bill B. wants to leave you for NE when you won't let him buy the groceries. Pretty ironic.
Parcel sound like Bill was nothing until he came back to him again. Guy trying to take credit for Bills work, sound salty af. Parcel, you haven’t won anything without Bill and Bill went to 9 sb and win 5 without you. Who do you think needs the other person more?
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You ARe an avg. Joe. Sssshhhhhhhtt. Quiet
Something about this interview sounds fishy......oh yeah Parcells the "Big Tuna". Smell like rotten fish to me
Belichick owes his football life to Parcells and the Giants.
Most overrated coach ever. More Personality than coaching and he was a hater.
Parcells was so overrated!!
Parcells is great. Bellichick is a cheater
Shut your salty ass up, you fucking loser. Belichick is 10x the coach Parcells ever was, and you know that. Quit letting the envy get to your head, and just respect a great coach/team. Do you even realize how pathetic you people sound when you say this? Knowing that the Patriots never even cheated? It's just a sorry ass excuse that you dipshits use as material, in order to make it look like you actually have a reason for hating on NE. It's sad, and pretty pathetic too. Grow tf up buddy..