I've Been Threatened By Sunfunkits! It's A Crazy World!
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- Опубликовано: 3 авг 2022
- This video is about threats that have been made because Sunfunkits wasn't happy about the test results of their cells and decided to continue their bullying that they are becoming known for. They have threatened to expose my arrest report from 1979 when I was 17 and shoplifted a cassette tape, as well as making my full name and address public. Well here's the story of my brush with the law and also an explanation of my long hair which is a bigger deal than the 44 year old arrest at this point. Sorry for the interuption, now back to your regularly scheduled broadcast. lol
Wow!! Good to know. That is just awful :( I'm glad I ignored their emails. I'm glad you posted this, the world needs to see this experience. Really sucks they would make threats. Absolutely ridiculous. I've had some companies do the same in the past. As long as you are being honest, they can't sue you. I ensure that my evidence is on video for all to see, and let people choose for themselves. I'm glad you posted the video and showed the results. Keep those videos up! What a jerk :(
Thanks Will. I will be holding on to the cells for this reason. They never said I would need to return them for any reason, only that I couldn't sell it. Of course, I wouldn't. Thanks for all your efforts. Thanks for commenting.
@@RayBuildsCoolStuff very smart idea and I agree. Hold on to them. Good proof if they ever tried to pull anything in the future. We all know you are honest, so you won't have an issue. We also miss you at the forum! We cleared out the sales people and everything has settled down. Would love for you to come back but I totally understand if you don't want to.
I love your honesty and I'm glad you tell us about these threats from this company. I know it can be very stressful to deal with crazy people like that. Not fun. Especially when you're being honest the whole time.
Wow Thanks for helping Ray out Will, your a good man too and I enjoy your videos as well. Super cool.
Lol.
Maybe you want to test their stuff now? I'd like to see that. At least we already know your last name and your hair is short.😂
They are going to bring more adverse attention to themselves by doing that. It will only hurt their business. Keep up the good work Ray.
First Sunfun has really made a bad thing worse by threatening you. I would never do business with them after hearing this. Does not matter how good there product is. Secondly what they are doing is harassment and threats that is illegal. I’m sure there are some attorneys among the subscribers that could help you in case you would need legal help in case the threats continues.
"If you don't do this, We'll do that." is more like extortion than harassment. Extortion is a much more serious offense.
I don't care if you just got out of jail yesterday. What does that have to do with the valuable information you provide. Please don't stop doing what you do brother because someone is upset about the truth. Thank you for all your great content. I have learned much by watching.
Your dog playing with the ball was bright spot in a sad video. I am glad you shared this. The best way to stop evil is shine a light on them.
One word Ray...Respect. Keep up the great work.
I don’t always watch, however you are doing what I would expect from someone more honest.
I appreciate all of your videos and respect both your knowledge and delivery of honest and thoughtful commentary. Keep the faith brother.
Wow! So sorry to hear this Ray. I really hope things work out in your favor and your family remains safe. Putting someone’s family on the line in terms of safety is a dirty low down trick. I will NEVER buy any product from this person. I’m sure many others feel the same. Wishing you the very best Ray. 🐢🌵
Hi Ray, thank you for sharing this and discussing personal information to prevent blackmail. I like many others are very grateful for your openness and honesty. I have learnt a lot from your videos and hope experiences like this don’t prevent the rest of us gaining from your vast experience. You have inspired me to build a power house even though I’m only on a 1/4 acre block. I love your building videos, not just the battery ones and believe your methodical approach to all things you do provides all your viewers with great insight.
Cheer up Ray. We all love your work and testament is the number of followers you have. It’s helpful to hear about the the good and bad of product and the after sales and integrity of suppliers. I for one will never use this battery supplier. Keep up the good work.
Ray, we need more people like you in this world. You are an informal mentor to many of us thanks to your valued content you so graciously share with us all. You are one of the best under subscribed/rated RUclips channels. It's a shame to hear someone is treating you in such a manner. I would not hesitate to report this to RUclips and the proper authorities and if it warrants it get legal advise as Will Trapp mentioned in his comment. The person needs to be accountable for their actions. To think I almost purchased a kit months ago. I would never willingly give my $$$ to a business knowing the individual(s) operating it behave like this. I will also be sharing your experience with all my friends who were also considering those batteries/kits so that they can decide for themselves. Your sacrifice has and will save many! I willl not hesitate to report any videos that present an attach on your person/character. Keep up the great work!
Ha ha! I'll bet the miserable dude that threatened you at that place is surprised to see your ease in your own skin sharing a 17 year old's lesson!
I hope everybody sees your videos on Sunfunkits and the miserable excuse for a proprietor over there.
Thank you for all your efforts! Extremely helpful!
You have always been honest, forthright, and professional, Thank You. I actually look forward to watching your videos because I can rely on you to be sincere in what you say and I find that very comforting. Stay the coarse, be yourself, and watch your 6, not everyone is kind.
Hang in there and keep up the good work. Not bending to bullies is imho the best strategy and I expect you will be cranking out content as long as you wish. I am greatly enjoying your style and have learned much that is useful from you. Thanks again!
Mate, you are deadset a breath of fresh air. The testing and advice you are providing on your channel is plain and honest. I am moving off grid in the highlands of Tasmania, Australia, with a very limited budget, and up until I discovered your channel I have been so very nervous and hesitant...... Thanks buddy, you have helped make my future plans not so daunting. 😘 🤟
That's really awful Ray. I'm sorry this is happening to you. I appreciate anyone who does objective reviews and really appreciate your attention to detail. I learned about automotive grade batteries from SFK videos. I'm not sure what to believe now. I think I'll stick to the EVE tested rejects from reputable suppliers for my projects.
Add me to the list of people who will never buy anything from SFK.
All of us should do our best to make sure we let people know not to do business with them.
Thank you so much for posting this! I had seen information about these Sunfunkits and was considering looking at one. Needless to say, that's the end of that. What a company to deal with.
A man of integrity - how rare these days! Thanks for taking this up! Don‘t worry, no harm will haunt you!
Ray, very saddened to hear what he has done. You have handled everything in your channel with honesty and integrity, for that you can stand tall. I love how you disarmed the bully. Watched to the end as I think I have done with the rest. Keep up the outstanding channel, Love and Peace to you!
Thanks James. Always happy when I see you are still here. I appreciate your support.
Just a quick message of support. This says a lot about the character of this individual and I am pretty sure he will reap what he has sown.
Thanks for the honesty and transparency, very rare indeed today. I continue to enjoy your exploit.
Thoughtful response. Really appreciate your handling of this situation.
I too just saw this post (video) as I am just watching more from you as I have only recently subscribed. I can definitely sympathize as I have a friend who went thru a similar and serious situation, but the shiit part of this is the fact that they/he chose a dirty fight. It’s the classic “ since I can’t win fairly, I’ll try and win on something irrelevant” -the kid having a tantrum and wanting you to feel his pain and anguish- guess he hasn’t leanrned about humility and how one can grow from a potential lesson learned. And, he also could have tested the issues himself , discussed it with you and if there were anomalies , been honest and moved on….could have even made some points! Anyway, it’s in their best interest to refrain and try to salvage from this lapse , and hopefully rebuild whatever it is they wanted to attain ($$?!).
Best wishes, and unless this co wants to crash and burn, they think better of carrying out this angst. And props deflating said threat by your vid! Pretty fkin tame btw ;)
I loved this candid vid Ray! Your dog is hilarious too. Thanks.
Very sad to hear the kind of things that you’re going through from somebody who has begged you to review their products and trashes other products on alarm. You have great videos and are much appreciated by the people out here keep it up and don’t let these people bother you.
Ray thank you for this videos, and thanks for you honesty, they don't deserve our business.
Its a sad reality that their behavior is what drives good people from trying to help others online with their expertise, knowledge and genuine good hearted nature to bring info to folks who are looking for some of the above to help them. Thats what makes community great in areas we making attempt to DIY. The bully’s, and those are use to getting their way attempt to silence honest people and when one resorts to bully threat tactics it almost always backfires on them.
I had never seen your videos i happened to stumble on a post on will’s forum and it was a discussion about companies and their service rating in honest opinions, your video was shared.
Thank you for sharing, i will subscribe, i had never bought from them. Honesty will get you far, and i think that is part of why Will has such a following, they appreciate his honest reviews and his expertise.
Thank you for taking the time to share the info.
At the time of writing this, there are 141 comments on this video.
This is the first time that I have ever read through that many, but I felt compelled to.
You must be feeling the love Ray!
Peace mate.
Thanks for your unbiased review and comments on the battery pack. Stay safe and happy and don't compromise your principles
I'm sorry to hear that Ray. I know you are trying to just do the right thing and in this world of greed, it's really becoming impossible. Shame on them for trying to do that to you. I'm pretty sure it will back fire on them. Keep your head up and don't give up. Don't stop being you because of them. Thanks Ray
Love you man! Fellow scuba diver and truly a good person. Keep up the great work and hope these companies finally realize to stand behind their products. Sorry for the grief you had to face. btw way I hope it does not get out that I stole from kmart as a kid once! 🤣 Glad my polaroid is not on their wall anymore!
Ray, the more they carry on with this more their reputation and sales will suffer. You have been an inspiration to me in my battery building ventures.
You are a very respectable person. Don’t let them bring you down. Keep up the good reviews of batteries.
Ray,
As we say in Ireland - fair play to you - for standing up to the bully.
I and many other viewers rate your experience and the way that you impart your knowledge.
Keep going exactly as you have done.
Look forward to every new video from you.
Best wishes.
Mark K.
Well you received another subscriber, hopefully more to come. Honesty and integrity is what we need more of with people testing any kind of equipment.
Respect for standing strong to such a group of idiots and for sharing with your audience! Keep up good work! Love from Switzerland!
Correct move. You 'shot the hostage' by releasing all the background and SFK now has nothing to play with. F' them.
In Australia that sort of threat - to maliciously release private information - would probably result in SFK getting a visit from the boys in blue. Andy from Off Grid Garage also reviewed the SFK - you should give him the heads-up.
Crazy world we in live in today. Honesty is always the way to go and have peace about we have done. I have just stumbled on your station not long ago it's my perception that you are a honest man. That's why I come back. I will be praying all will be washed away sunfun.
Sad, sorry you had to go through this all in an effort to help others. I found a link to this video on Wil's forum while researching SFK as I was considering using their bms for a build.
You gained a sub just based of pure honesty.
If anybody needs to dox me, I did steal a CB radio in 1981 and had long hair when i did it (since I was homeless) :) Birds of a feather :)
Great video, thanks for sharing it.
Thanks so much Ray.
In my whole lifetime of experience, (I think I’m a little older than you), when a salesman runs the other opposition companies down rather than “up selling” his own product, there is usually a serious problem. I usually walk the other way when I run in to such a person.
SFK have now done that in spades, and have lost any trust or respect that I could ever have potentially had for them. Their threats to you are absolutely disgusting.
Your honesty is very obvious and very apparent to me.
(I also hate to say it: how many teens have not EVER shoplifted at some stage in their youth? Yes, kids do indeed do stupid things, often just a one off impulse thing.
I’d even guess that not many grown adults could say with total honesty, that they had not EVER shoplifted anything as teenagers.
You were unlucky enough to get caught, then did the right thing and pleaded guilty. Lesson learned. Move on. That was a hell of a long time ago!
Well done Ray! And G’day again from Oz 🇦🇺
P.S. Grow your hair or a beard however you and your wife want LOL :-). If people can’t see through that, then I’d suggest they have serious psychological problems! (I had long hair and a beard as a teenager, as we nearly all did then, but not since. I think my wife might leave me if I grew either again.)
As they say: happy wife, happy life. Cheers!
We appreciate you honesty. keep up the good work. 👍
Great Work Ray! Keep on staying true. It was great seeing you this week at SC (Rocky)! Great channel BTW
Rocky!!!
As I posted before, I have purchased from this supplier and been happy with the results since it solved a need I had to utilize equipment that was sitting idle. I am disappointed with your experience and appreciate your candor and integrity. It’s always a treat to see someone take such pains to create equipment and systems that we all admire and learn from. It’s clear you won’t be distracted from sharing a very entertaining and educational endeavor. Looking forward to more COOL. Ciao
What a shocking response from them. Unbelievable but man that’s the way to handle it. Outstanding.
Get that poor dog a companion.... Thanks very much about dealing with folks across the pond!
I'm just another stranger in the internet but I want to give you my thanks for posting this. I was getting ready to order a pallet from them and I'm glad some other random guy in another channel mentioned you. Now my money will not help a shady person try to bully others.
Thank you.
Good luck with your project. I’m really grateful to have found a reliable salesperson that consistently proves to be a good person.
Holy crap. I once stole a piece of gum. Now I'm worried...
the way you smile while telling the story gives the idea you miss those years back then a bit .. and only that!!!!
Firstly, love the hair and we'll done on growing it long. My wife wants me to grow mine too. Secondly, honesty is the best medicine. Don't be concerned about someone making hollow threats as it now makes that company look really really bad. Love your work.
Thanks for your honesty Ray and keep it up.
Thank you for posting this video and also the original video. Thank you more for sticking to your convictions and not removing the Sunfunkits videos. We all have a past and it's unfortunate that there are such horrible people out there who would threaten you. This will help people avoid Sunfunkits and any subsequent companies this person tries start up in the future. BTW, Love your dog.
Well done Ray. Honesty & Love are stronger than anything. I think that the test results you have just show that sun &funkits simply have no quality check on the stuff they sell. As we all know there is a lot of battery cells on the market that are not meeting the capacity they should have. Probably sun&fun do not test the cells they are selling.
Keep on doing your thing...I appreciate all the time that you invest to share your knowledge.
You keep up your videos. We love them and stand behind you.
Ray - I'd pass all the info and communications you have to the FBI cybercrimes folks. He's already crossed the line. Best to get ahead of this, rather than reacting. FWIW. Keep on keepin' on, Brother. Andy
Hold your ground and keep doing what is righteous and you will do well! I appreciate your sincerity! God Bless you and your family!
Fellow Texan.
SFK has just given themselves a black eye. We will remember what has taken place. God bless you and your family Ray.
Subscribing to your channel, not because this was an awesome video, but because you seem like an honest dude. SFK is a company I will never even look at, not because the product reviews, but because of his behaviour.
Take it as a compliment on your channel. They know the industry and you’re channel are going to blow up and they don’t want potential customer’s seeing that test show up when they’re doing pre-purchase research in future.
This only goes to show they’re a company not to be trusted, I’d link this at the end of that test video, especially as you’ve been honest about your misdemeanour.
Edit: We’ve all done stupid thing’s in our youth. I was arrested and cautioned for drunk and disorderly at 18 (legal drinking age in the UK) because I was stupid enough to antagonise and insult a riot van full of police officer’s on my way home with friend’s by giving them the finger from across the street. I was too fast for them but they were too smart for me, they got me when I thought they’d given up. 🤦♂️
Ray... Respect... Fair play to you for being a genuine, decent, honest guy and for sharing the truth about your testing results. All power to you.
I had previously considered buying one of these kits. Would never consider dealing with this company based on this deeply disturbing experience you have had with them!
You and Will are two of my favorites for your honesty. I have been in a similar situation but in an industry not welcome on RUclipss platform... Firearms 🤫🤫🤫 If Doxxed courts and police don't do a damn thing for random "visitors". Cameras, early warning systems and the ability to defend yourself/family will go along way for your pice of mind. Thankfully most Americans have a very short attention span and will forget about it quickly.
Looking forward to the rainwater video! Thank you for always being honest.
You got support from around the globe!
This one comes from Denmark: In my book YOU are a man of honor and integrity (I couldn't care less when you have what hair) anyone behaving just remotely like you describe on the other hand, is NOT!
Thanks Ray - you are a good man! Keep up the good work - in the way YOU feel is right...
John, Copenhagen, Denmark
That's crazy I was gonna buy some stuff from that sun fun kit place but forgot about it now people are going crazy out there thanks again for posting and God bless you 🙏 brother
Love the Dog in the background. More of humanity should be playful, curious. Thank you for content. Appreciate your attention to detail, craftsmanship.
Ray, thank you for standing up to these threats. I THINK I was subscriber #35 or something like that. Anyone who follows your channel knows your integrity is impeccable.
Thanks Keith!
What a gentle, passive, thoughtful response to an obnoxious threat. I appreciate your informative videos & careful delivery Ray. And the hair isn’t too distracting, I can cope with it. With counselling. And strong painkillers. :-)
Rhona has a special talent with ball control BTW. She should get her own channel.
Greetings from Spain 🇪🇸
Rona is actually amazing with the ball. She can balance it on her shoulders and back for more than 10 seconds. I’ll get it into a video someday. Each month as she gets older she becomes more loving and enjoyable. We have been blessed with some amazing dogs.
They have just tarnished their reputation with me, to react like that is outrageous, I will never forget that name and I will tell others how this company conducts themselves. great video.
God bless Ray. Love your videos and I watched to the end.
Stuff that cool Ray builds. I love this channel.
Thankyou for this information after what he is doing with you I would buy nothing from this man as he has no integrity like you. You have only been honest at his request. I hope you ok, keep safe. And be blessed.
Eddie from Northern Ireland
I’m glad you’re NOT taking the videos down!
Threatening to Doxx someone is one of the prime internet sins. At least now we all know who to not do business with. Vote with dollars!
Garbage in is garbage out. Verified, checked and re-checked good product sent equals good review result. Someone dropped the ball, management should look into this and replace responsible people. Product probably good for the price but they shipped without thinking. DAMAGE CONTROL and REACHING OUT is the correct action for the company, DOXING a trusted reviewer and blaming others is just SAVING FACE for the less experienced promotional product staffers. 😅
Thank you for letting us know this... I will never buy from SFK! Thank you for your honesty and the strait shooting way you do things!
Thank you for your honesty, again! You are a stand-up guy! SunFun is DoneFun in my eyes! LOL - Maybe they will change their name now and try to sell their crap through a RUclips marketer now. Whomever tests SunFun's crap now will tarnish their own name also. There are too many marketers out there who sell their souls for RUclips dollars. I would like it if you posted the name, address, and email of your accuser from SunFun and see how he likes it.
Thanks for sharing your experience with this person/company. It's really sad that it has come to the point of someone making threats because they can't accept honest criticism. I would consider this like shooting themselves in the foot. A business can't go on for long with this sort of disrespect. Instead of trying to understand/resolve the capacity issue he continues to take shots at you and your testing (even though many have commented on the latest video saying they disagree with his testing method and calculations).
Ray, I'm so sorry you had to deal with this. These are some of the reasons RUclipsrs are reticent to review products. Was thinking... Maybe you should have a third-party test the cells. Ask them to sign the report and test methodology. One more thought. Auditing one out of fifty products going out the door doesn't cut it. Especially for products that must meet a specification. I worked in hi tech all my career. We shipped TENS OF MILLIONS of products around the world. Can you imagine what would have happened to our business and reputation if our products didn't do what they were designed and spec'd to do? They were designed and tested with PLENTY of margin. And during the design and testing phases - if our Engineering team didn't feel it met the specs, our Sales and Marketing teams would have to scale back their sales rhetoric. Under promise and over deliver. Obviously Sunfunkits isn't doing that.
At least if they tested every cell they would know if they had a problem, when it occurred, before they received it or after.
I was thinking about one of their kits, but since I got busted for having some pot in 77.....don't need Sunfun posting that....as if that worried me.
Great videos you do...stand up to BLACKMAILERS!
What the HECK?! Wow just amazing. Keep up the good work. On a good note I ordered some MG Chemicals 847 paste and it worked like a charm. Thanks for the tip.
I just subscribed to your channel Because of your honesty!
Thank you
I'm new to Solar Power, still in research phase. I'm enjoying your videos, and now I know one company whose products I will TOTALLY AVOID. I want to buy from a company which puts 100% of its effort into providing the best value for the customer.
How could they be that stupid..
They could
- Ignore it and hope it blows away
- Take it, learn from it and reply in a decent manner (All companies make mistakes - how they handle it is how they can be differentiated from good vs evil).
- Act like a 6 year old child and make sure everyone who notices this will remove them from their list of possible options..
Really wondering what got their mind twisted to opt for the worst option a company could do.... Great PR team.
I just rewatched the rain catchment video, thanks again for that by the way, and as I was closing it this one popped up in the side bar and reminded me to ask if you heard any more from those soulless conniving yahoos (I was thinking other words). There should be consequences for their lack of integrity and bullying posture. Each time I think of this I get angry
I think it has been laid to rest and the time has come to err towards empathy and compassion for the people in the world that constantly suffer at their own hand. Last week I was getting ready for a bike ride with my wife. I was just at the edge of the road on a very small country road. There was eight feet between my wife and I. A school bus was approaching from the south. A pickup truck coming from the north was driven by a mid 30s guy that hates cyclists. He ran completely off the road to buzz between us while yelling "stay off the road". We called 911. The operator was very efficient and helpful. 30 minutes later, a deputy found me on my ride and pulled me over to interview me. They had found the guy and he had asked if he was being pulled over because of the bicycle thing, which placed him at the scene. The deputy asked if I wanted to press charges and I said yes I did. He said he will be charged with deadly conduct which is a class A misdemeanor with a max one year and 10,000$ fine. The detective picked up a copy of the video of the incident from he school bus later that day. Depending on his priors, he will get probation and fines or go to jail for his reckless and stupid behavior. Luckily nobody was hurt but people like that can cause severe injury or death whether they mean to or not.
All we can do is keep doing the next right thing and try to have a positive impact on others. Thanks for your support.
I have only just found your channel and this is post is now 6 months old. I am very impressed with your reviews and the way you present them. Methodically viewing your posts, I have now come to this and have been taken aback.
There is right way and a wrong way to approach someone and Sunfunkits approached you the wrong way with guns blazing. This company could learn a lot from you; as your calm, passive, response to this is enlightening and says so much about your character. Purchasing from this company, for me was not an option after your test results and now, will never be, even if the tests were redone and the batteries were found to be better than previously tested. They have no integrity and no honor.
That's just awful that someone thinks this will help their case. I'm never going to do business with that company.
Never bow to the mob and never apologize.
Thanks for sharing and as always keep building 👍.
I was considering SFK but if they are using threats to make their products look better than what they are I will not even think of them in future or even watch their videos now. Them trying to cheat will only cost them more.
Most of us have done things that we regret but we learn from them. Thanks for sharing 👍
I expect all companies to at some point drop the ball and send out a defective product, it's not a big deal if they're willing and able to rectify the situation, they become heroes if they have good customer service imho. I genuinely don't understand why instead of just saying 'sorry we'll work to improve things', they're willing to threaten you and absolutely become a villain no one will now want to engage with.
Thanx for the info. I want good cells ;) keep on the good work!
I trust your data and methods. Thanks for the posts!
Didn’t read all the comments to see if it was covered ….. but from what I have read …. Doxing is illegal if the intent is to annoy, harass, or intimidate.
Hope they see the light and realize this harassment has already caused them much more harm than I’d they just let It go.
Keep up the honest work Ray.
Can't imagine what it would be like to have a warranty issue with them I will be avoiding Sun Fun Kits. I was actually thinking of buying some things from their website. He could have made a video discussing why he disagreed with your review and let viewers decided. Online threats and bullying is childish and shows what kind of character someone is.
Come on, who's the teenager that never put a cassette in the pocket by "mistake" back then 😆! Keep the good work.
i have made it part of my ethos to trust you, will and david poz all the time and i will continue to without doubt, keep up your honesty and integrity and keep the videos coming, god bless.
Thanks for the video . I will make sure to never ever buy their product or consider them as legit until there is a an apology letter.
I've read a good many bad reviews about sun fun kits just in the past 2 weeks before your review. Your review was a lot nicer then the other comments I've been reading.
They even have a video out saying they been getting a lot of bad complaints and they are making changes and that's their own video. That's before you made your video.
what a pathetic behavior from SFK guy. Ray keep up good work! We need more people that are honest, fair and reliable like you on youtube. SFK just shooting themselves in the foot. Link to this video should be posted on all DIY forums to let people know about SFK "business standards", absolutely disgraceful!. All best Ray!
YOURE A GOOD MAN, SIR .
I know i cant tell you anything you dont already know .
Its like what a wise mentor I had said.
“You just keep doing you “
Your past is so far behind you, and the offense so minor, all I can do is shake my head in wonder at how he believes he can hurt you to report it
It does more damage to his name than your as I will never do business with his company under any circumstance
So I think you made the right decision to not give in to his threats because there’s no guarantee (as you mentioned) that he wouldn’t have attempted to smear you regardless
To receive packages of products that you review on your channel a private mailbox maybe a good idea so companies don’t have your home address etc. It costs, but may provide some extra peace of mind
Appreciate your hard work as always. Stay safe