The reason we typically don’t see them in new games is that Sega wants to keep the Classic and Modern characters separate. Even mobile games that features Classic characters, including the Roblox game, are more focused on the Modern cast. The most Mighty and Ray has gotten after Mania Plus were in the Sonic 30th anniversary special for the IDW comics, and another special where Ray even was a lead role in the Amy and Metal Sonic 30th anniversary special. As that story revolved them saving Mighty. Not even seeing them be playable outside of remnants of their Sonic Mania blue spheres code in Origins, and having no traces in Superstars. Which is probably the case because they aren’t super important characters to even the Classic games. Last year it was Amy and Metal Sonic’s 30th anniversary year, but even though it was Mighty and Ray’s as well, they didn’t get a comic themselves. Ray sure did get a lead role, but if you compare it to Fang, it’s like nothing. Fang got a 4 part miniseries for his 30th anniversary. At the very least, Mighty and Ray aren’t being snubbed like back in the day, they have a higher chance being used in a game than ever before. But until Sega wants to break the wall between Classic Sonic and Modern Sonic, Mighty and Ray will continue to not that much attention for playable appearances or even just being NPCs. They most likely just appear in the comics that at least are canon to the lore of the main series. Unlike Archie. And knowing how well Superstars did and SEGA’s track record. Heck, with Classic Sonic being not much mentioned in the Marketing for Sonic x Shadow Generations, compared to Sonic. Not even being on the Japanese Box art, might lead to the idea that Sega might not put much focus on Classic Sonic games for a while. At least Mighty and Ray are getting merch though. And the Roblox game, Sonic Speed Simulator, having the highest chance out of any Modern Sonic game. Since the game features more than just Classic Sonic in the game as a playable character. Fang is even a boss in that game and you can get his vehicle. The only problem is that it was obviously done for promotion sake. So there’s still a chance Mighty and Ray aren’t close to the table still for potential new characters. But who knows, with how even another obscure character delegated to the canon comics, Gemeral appeared in the game now, Mighty and Ray might still have a chance. Even then, it’s a Roblox game that takes any opportunity to get money from you. So I don’t know if that’s much better. Ngl, I do hope we get the proper (outside of Minecraft) return of Mighty and Ray. Especially if they have their designs from late pre-reboot and reboot Archie.
Yeah, you’re absolutely right. There’s more chance of them appearing then some of the Archie characters, for sure - It’s a shame of course, as I really liked the freedom fighters, I thought they were a decent bunch but there you are. Regarding Ray and mighty though - I just don’t understand why they were made such a big deal of in mania, even to get their own merch, as you say and then nothing. Then again… it’s quite typical of sega.
@@TheGamingPsychologist They be weird. But it’s probably because they don’t see them as marketable. They just knew they were fan favorite characters enough that their long awaited return would mean anything. Or they just marketed like that because the Sonic Mania team could’ve been adamant that fans would love their return. And Sega probably trusted them with how successful Mania was doing. At most, I could say that their day view was a part of that spark that helped Sega to be more willing to bring back characters from all throughout the Games’ history. At least for the Classic characters like Fang, Bean, and Bark. Since they mostly got cameos before Mighty and Ray’s inclusion.
In terms of abilities they’re similar, for sure but they’re very different characters. Rouge and shadow have similar abilities to knuckles and shadow but sega still use them so I’m not sure those characters took their place but I get where you’re coming from.
The reason we typically don’t see them in new games is that Sega wants to keep the Classic and Modern characters separate. Even mobile games that features Classic characters, including the Roblox game, are more focused on the Modern cast.
The most Mighty and Ray has gotten after Mania Plus were in the Sonic 30th anniversary special for the IDW comics, and another special where Ray even was a lead role in the Amy and Metal Sonic 30th anniversary special. As that story revolved them saving Mighty.
Not even seeing them be playable outside of remnants of their Sonic Mania blue spheres code in Origins, and having no traces in Superstars. Which is probably the case because they aren’t super important characters to even the Classic games.
Last year it was Amy and Metal Sonic’s 30th anniversary year, but even though it was Mighty and Ray’s as well, they didn’t get a comic themselves. Ray sure did get a lead role, but if you compare it to Fang, it’s like nothing. Fang got a 4 part miniseries for his 30th anniversary.
At the very least, Mighty and Ray aren’t being snubbed like back in the day, they have a higher chance being used in a game than ever before. But until Sega wants to break the wall between Classic Sonic and Modern Sonic, Mighty and Ray will continue to not that much attention for playable appearances or even just being NPCs. They most likely just appear in the comics that at least are canon to the lore of the main series. Unlike Archie.
And knowing how well Superstars did and SEGA’s track record. Heck, with Classic Sonic being not much mentioned in the Marketing for Sonic x Shadow Generations, compared to Sonic. Not even being on the Japanese Box art, might lead to the idea that Sega might not put much focus on Classic Sonic games for a while.
At least Mighty and Ray are getting merch though.
And the Roblox game, Sonic Speed Simulator, having the highest chance out of any Modern Sonic game. Since the game features more than just Classic Sonic in the game as a playable character. Fang is even a boss in that game and you can get his vehicle. The only problem is that it was obviously done for promotion sake. So there’s still a chance Mighty and Ray aren’t close to the table still for potential new characters.
But who knows, with how even another obscure character delegated to the canon comics, Gemeral appeared in the game now, Mighty and Ray might still have a chance. Even then, it’s a Roblox game that takes any opportunity to get money from you. So I don’t know if that’s much better.
Ngl, I do hope we get the proper (outside of Minecraft) return of Mighty and Ray. Especially if they have their designs from late pre-reboot and reboot Archie.
Yeah, you’re absolutely right. There’s more chance of them appearing then some of the Archie characters, for sure - It’s a shame of course, as I really liked the freedom fighters, I thought they were a decent bunch but there you are. Regarding Ray and mighty though - I just don’t understand why they were made such a big deal of in mania, even to get their own merch, as you say and then nothing. Then again… it’s quite typical of sega.
@@TheGamingPsychologist They be weird. But it’s probably because they don’t see them as marketable. They just knew they were fan favorite characters enough that their long awaited return would mean anything. Or they just marketed like that because the Sonic Mania team could’ve been adamant that fans would love their return. And Sega probably trusted them with how successful Mania was doing.
At most, I could say that their day view was a part of that spark that helped Sega to be more willing to bring back characters from all throughout the Games’ history. At least for the Classic characters like Fang, Bean, and Bark. Since they mostly got cameos before Mighty and Ray’s inclusion.
@@TheGamingPsychologist I really hope the Freedom Fighters come back myself. I loved them over the last two years of reading Archie.
Yeah, I’m a big fan of the freedom fighters as well. I think it’s certainly possible…
sega just doesn't want to bring them back due to tails and knuckles took their place
In terms of abilities they’re similar, for sure
but they’re very different characters. Rouge and shadow have similar abilities to knuckles and shadow but sega still use them so I’m not sure those characters took their place but I get where you’re coming from.