AI Re-Imagines Pulp Heroes from the 1920s

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  • @deathmetalbard
    @deathmetalbard 7 месяцев назад +25

    Personally I like your drawings even if you consider them amateur.
    As for AI, I think so long as you're not selling the art and are using it in an educational manner (such as this video) you should be fine to do it.

    • @bigboynow7936
      @bigboynow7936 7 месяцев назад +4

      This. I agree wholeheartedly.

  • @AlienIOIandroktone
    @AlienIOIandroktone 7 месяцев назад +20

    It would be interesting to see a dataset based only on the public domain comics.

    • @FizzFop1
      @FizzFop1  7 месяцев назад +3

      I think I'm going to do more videos using public domain heroes. We will see how it goes.

    • @ServantRules
      @ServantRules 7 месяцев назад +1

      Sadly, AI tech requires Billions of datasets to work the way they do. For context, the datsets AI image like Midjourney and Dall-E use have around 5 percent public domain as training content. As in the entirety of PD content out there that was scraped.

  • @masterpainter72
    @masterpainter72 7 месяцев назад +13

    There's a character who went by the name John Henry in DC Comics' mini-series The New Frontier(the hood and noose rope made him look like Hooded Justice from the Watchmen)and if you read Stargirl-The Lost Children featuring obscure kid sidekicks to the Golden Age heroes(including the Quality heroes),there was John Henry, Jr....!

    • @NucleaRaptor
      @NucleaRaptor 7 месяцев назад

      Issue 0 of that Golden Age mini hinted at such a better story than we ended up getting. :/ All those cool alternate universe sidekicks really had nothing to do with anything.

    • @spot.themagicninja6087
      @spot.themagicninja6087 7 месяцев назад

      The story of John Henry is a great allegory for technological progress vrs human ability. Very appropriate for AI.

  • @Scotty-Z70
    @Scotty-Z70 7 месяцев назад +12

    6 fingers? like the Nephilim. The AI is working for the Nephilim!

  • @rubysuncle
    @rubysuncle 7 месяцев назад +4

    Real art comes from the creative minds of real artisits. Not keying up an algorithm to squeeze it out.
    But that’s all fine and good…that’s why Nightshade’s been developed.

  • @jimgillespie6109
    @jimgillespie6109 7 месяцев назад +10

    I draw, and yes, I do see AI as a threat to artists. But, I also see it as a fun tool that can be used to inspire creatives in their works. I've tried it out a few times, but I've never been 100% satisfied with the results. Maybe 80% at best. I'm sorry you had to deal with the AI backlash.
    The Demon AI creations were nice, but the only one that seemed to fully demonstrate a true understanding of the artist's style was the Rich Buckler one. All the others had "touches" of this or that artist, while the Buckler one does truly look like a Buckler piece to me.
    A page rate for full art (penciling, inking, colors, etc.) should probably be around $500 per page, if not more, for that level of quality. Comics publishers are already saving money by hiring artists in other countries where the American dollar is strong. They get more bang for the buck that way -- at least, that's what they believe. A lot of fans look at many modern day comics art with utter disbelief at how bad it can be at times.

    • @FizzFop1
      @FizzFop1  7 месяцев назад +1

      Great comment! As for me, modern comics art has become soul-less. The humanity of it has already been driven out leaving a stale almost corporate sterile feel to it. The Buckler panel was by far the one that the AI totally nailed. Others...the Neal Adams was close...same with the Jack Kirby. The Bob Kane panel made me laugh because it got the background like it did.

    • @bar-1studios
      @bar-1studios 7 месяцев назад

      Most people are still not using AI art to it's greatest advantage.
      Rendering high quality memes and $#!+posts.

  • @Scotty-Z70
    @Scotty-Z70 7 месяцев назад +6

    Man vs Machine, i remember it. But I think the AI goes back to Terminator 2, and it's not that AI will replace us, it's that AI will terminate us.

  • @papacastor7458
    @papacastor7458 7 месяцев назад +5

    Great FizzFop is back!!!🎉

  • @mr_reborn
    @mr_reborn 4 месяца назад +2

    It basically takes preexisting work and mish-mashes it into something semi-new, not only destroying a lot of work opportunities for artists but adding insult to injury by doing so through the exploitation of work artists have already done.

  • @therussiancomicbookgeek
    @therussiancomicbookgeek 7 месяцев назад +6

    Love your videos bro 🤙

    • @syaif7292
      @syaif7292 7 месяцев назад +2

      I love your content ❤

  • @Hedgehobbit
    @Hedgehobbit 7 месяцев назад +18

    Creating a comic in the style of a Van Gogh, or any of the old masters, wouldn't be an issue because all their work is in the public domain. Doing it in the style of a Jim Lee, OTOH, would be asking for trouble.

    • @AlienIOIandroktone
      @AlienIOIandroktone 7 месяцев назад +4

      These AI datasets should not be using copyrighted material without permission.

    • @lazer-ape
      @lazer-ape 7 месяцев назад +3

      you could generate results based off PD comics though. thats something Ive wanted to see for awhile now

    • @FizzFop1
      @FizzFop1  7 месяцев назад +5

      I'm going to attempt some more images based on PD comics. We'll see how it goes.

    • @cagowolfe4821
      @cagowolfe4821 7 месяцев назад

      "it's okay to steal from him, he's dead"

    • @Hedgehobbit
      @Hedgehobbit 7 месяцев назад

      @@cagowolfe4821 That's how US copyright law works. Just ask Walt Disney.

  • @kelvinsantiago7061
    @kelvinsantiago7061 7 месяцев назад +2

    AI is great when used to give life to these old forgotten characters!.

  • @waynestanley498
    @waynestanley498 7 месяцев назад +2

    My favorite AI voice over said, " during this emergency the person called nine hundred and eleven".

    • @FizzFop1
      @FizzFop1  7 месяцев назад

      I was watching a comic book video and instead of saying Buck Rogers the AI voice said "Buck Rougers." It also called the Shadow the "Shad-ow." The ow part sounded like OW! as in "Ow! That hurts."

  • @CountryBwoy
    @CountryBwoy 4 месяца назад

    I don't know how I missed this video. I'm an artist and I've goofed around with AI a little bit and I like it a lot. I use it for specific styles that I just can't replicate. At the very least it can be the basis to use for drawings. I use it like a "still life" or collage that I can use for reference in my actual art. I've used it just as you have. I've also used it to get ideas for my TTRPG characters that I got from an RPG random character generator. I copy/paste the text and run it through the AI to get an idea of the character. It's fun. It's just another tool, in my opinion. Great Job! ✌🏾

  • @DoppelgangerShockwave
    @DoppelgangerShockwave 7 месяцев назад +3

    I personally feel that AI art should only be used as a tool to work out some ideas. It should never be used to make a finished product for public consumption.

  • @ilasdad2875
    @ilasdad2875 7 месяцев назад +2

    Freestyle talking went great btw. Always good to watch a one of your videos and look forward to the next be it scripted or off the cuff.

  • @travishiltz4750
    @travishiltz4750 5 месяцев назад +1

    Watching this video reminded me the 'Man in purple' collection was on my amazon wish list, so I finally broke down and bought it.
    Fun read.
    I may just go down the list in this video, and see how many of his other characters' stories have been reprinted.

  • @MrZkinandBonez
    @MrZkinandBonez 7 месяцев назад +10

    Considering the high quality of your previous illustrations I hope you didn't feel any pressure to use AI to "improve" your videos. Even if we ignore all the moral and legal complications and debates that comes with AI generated "art," then there is still simply something eerie and soulless about it, even when its at its best. Not that my opinion really matters, but I really hope this was just a bit of curious experimentation with some new technology and not a sign of things to come. Your videos were already really good, you don't need this creepy technology to enhance it in any way.

    • @okloshbrokla8154
      @okloshbrokla8154 7 месяцев назад

      Hes like shadiversety right leaning socipathic lazy untalanted nobodys who could habe had something if they put actual effort in their art but chose the eazy way

    • @FizzFop1
      @FizzFop1  7 месяцев назад

      Absolutely, that's why I am where I'm at.

  • @fellowcitizen
    @fellowcitizen 4 месяца назад

    ''You've always had to find new ways to work'' Zadie Smith

  • @CSLucasEpic
    @CSLucasEpic 7 месяцев назад +5

    Okay. First of all, I want to say that I liked the video. It was very interesting, and educational.
    Now, for a more lengthy answer, I know it might seem long but I would appreciate it if you read it.
    I agree with what you said about AI generated art, and what the future might bring. In fact we saw it already happening since the last decade, but most people did not care. For example, when showing a city in a movie it used to be made by a CGI artist that would make every building and set it up on a 3D setting so a filmmaker could use it for a movie. But before anyone knew it, a computer could just generate a bunch of tall buildings scattered over several blocks. Sure, it looks terrible and not really practical. But nobody cared, because it was just used on a 5 second overhead shot.
    I think that the big problem is that nobody wants to sit down and have an actual discussion about the subject. The Internet is just filled with AI-antis, some of which aren't even artists but just want to stir up the flames, when the moment one utterst "AI" and "generated" in a sentence they pounce to attack. Trying to reason is impossible because they just cover their ears, shut their eyes and go "LALALALALA CAN'T HEAR YOU LALALALALA!" and the people on the other side, the AI supporters, are no good either, as they continue to argue that "I made this, check it out" when they ask an AI to generate art, and anyone that tells them that no, you just wrote a prompt and a computer made the art, they would again get angry and call you a closed minded man that lives in the past and that the art was made by them, and the computer was just a tool and all that. Neither side is willing to listen to the other and have an actual debate, which does not help either side.
    I would like to recommend to you another RUclips channel of a creator called AustinMcConnell, who has a channel that covers several subjects of cultural significance.
    Since last year, Austin has been working on creating his own Superhero Universe by using only public domain character superheroes from the Golden Age of comics. He also has released some short videos where he explains the origins and original publications of the different characters he will use in this new public domain Superhero Universe he is making. So far he has been able to successfully launch two Kickstart campaigns to cover the costs of two animated movies, one will be finished later this year, the other one has just been funded and production for it has just started, after a short Pilot was released on his channel about it. He has also released a book set in said Superhero Universe which can be purchased already online. It is about that book that the controversy of AI was spurred on his channel. You see, to promote the release of the book, which he had written himself with the help of another co-author, he had an audiobook version of the first Chapter of the book released for free on his channel. However, he used an AI generator to make the pictures for the audiobook, and also another one for the voices that read the dialogue and narration (for the exception of one character which Austin voiced himself). He got a lot of backlash for that, and later released another video explaining why he had used AI for that (he explained that he wanted to get actual voice actors and an artist, but considering that unlike the movies the book was written with a budget of 0, he realized he could not afford to do so and decided to use AI to make that free promo chapter 1 release). He explains it better on that video, I recommend you watch it, it is very interesting and he makes very good points and counterpoints, the video was meant to try and start an actual civilized discussion about AI. Austin also got some pretty severe accusations after that AI video, as some even accused him of having used AI to write the entire book, despite the fact that he had the help of a fellow writer with experience, not to mention that I have read his book and it clearly is written by a human being, not an AI. Those accusations were made clearly by people that had not read the book, and were just pointing fingers for the sake of pointing fingers.

    • @okloshbrokla8154
      @okloshbrokla8154 7 месяцев назад

      You seem like a child of divorce trying to reconcile "both sides" there is no both sides here
      One side advocated the destruction of millions of jobs..no ai dosebt just threateb art ..horrible use of child pronography theft of intellectual property theft of someones life work to produce garbage theft of identety ei stealing voices and peoples images
      The other side wants you know to have a job and feed their familys and not have human expression die
      Go ahead explain to me why its bad for artists to want to live ?

    • @FizzFop1
      @FizzFop1  7 месяцев назад +3

      I will check out AutinMcConnell channel. It sounds interesting. One thing that does bother me about making this video is that anything I create in the future, the accusation of AI comes with it. I'm concerned but not overly worried by it because we sort of saw this in the early 2000s. I was into photography and many old school photographers snub their nose up to digital DLSRs and Adobe Photoshop. They didn't think of it as photography. With the way things went, a few short years later, their opinion didn't matter because everyone was taking digital pictures and fixing them in Photoshop. My prediction is the same with AI. It will become the new norm.

    • @CSLucasEpic
      @CSLucasEpic 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@FizzFop1 Very likely, yes. To be honest AI has already been in use for many years, but just being taken into the attention of the general public recently. For example, AI is always used in Hollywood movies when an aerial view of a city has to be generated for one of those small takes that last 5 seconds or so. A computer will generate blocks of buildings and skycrapers that look like a generic city in a fraction of a time that a 3D artist would be able to do so. And there is sport journalist AI where all you have to do is input the data of a game (date and location, final score, lineups) and the AI will generate a small article about the game which is then published on magazines.
      The thing with technology it that it makes jobs obsolete. What it took 10 people to make 30 years ago, now its done by one person and a bunch of robots.

  • @Quasi_Terrible
    @Quasi_Terrible 7 месяцев назад +4

    I definitely liked the Kirby one the best, I would've also liked to see ones done in the style of Todd McFarlane and Alex Schomburg.

    • @FizzFop1
      @FizzFop1  7 месяцев назад +2

      So far, the Jack Kirby panel has gotten the most love.

    • @FizzFop1
      @FizzFop1  7 месяцев назад +1

      ...And Todd McFarlane and Alex Schomburg are going to be in my next batch of tests!

  • @BJPCraig
    @BJPCraig 7 месяцев назад +1

    Another fun video. I was a little disappointed that some of your prompts seemed geared toward updating the characters; I had assumed that you would describe them the way they were described in the origina tales to see what the AI generated. Either way, you got some interesting results.

  • @Scotty-Z70
    @Scotty-Z70 7 месяцев назад +3

    nope, i stopped it at 24:37 ...now to continue...

  • @Solaris_Age2090
    @Solaris_Age2090 7 месяцев назад +1

    You are just being honest about what is happening in the industry. Telling the truth doesn’t necessarily make someone popular for it. Especially when it is hard to hear.

  • @fellowcitizen
    @fellowcitizen 4 месяца назад +1

    Recall that Inigo Montoya's father was killed by the Six-Fingered Man, inspiring him to become the greatest swordsman -- Could it be a metaphor for AI?

  • @Bucky749
    @Bucky749 7 месяцев назад +3

    I feel like some where some one is screaming about cabbages. I got avatar in the brain.

  • @Jimalcoatl
    @Jimalcoatl 7 месяцев назад +1

    I think I understand why many people dislike AI art so much. Humans have to train and practice for years to become skilled artists. AI has become capable of creating high quality (if often somewhat odd) art in minutes. It's getting better every day and will likely get to the point where it has none, or nearly none, of the oddities in its products that AI generators currently have. Add on the fact that AI generators are trained using others' art, often without permission, and it makes sense that artists feel threatened by it.
    The thing is, it's not going away. The box has been opened and people who need or want quick disposable art, especially of niche subjects, are going to use it and it's going to keep getting better and better. Freaking out and trying to shame people over using it, especially just for their own entertainment, is a wasted effort and just broadcasts your insecurities.
    I think it is vitally important and ethical to disclose and point out when an image is created using AI. I also do not believe AI generated images are art, but they are here to stay and they are only going to become more and more prevalent.
    Artists must find ways to distinguish themselves from the machines now. It's unfortunate, but it's life.

    • @FizzFop1
      @FizzFop1  7 месяцев назад +1

      I agree!

    • @Jimalcoatl
      @Jimalcoatl 7 месяцев назад

      @FizzFop1 Yeah. I paused the video when you started talking about how people got angry about using AI, wrote my comment, and then started it again just to hear you say more or less the same thing. 😁
      AI images are a bit worrisome, but also have a lot of potential for writers who can't afford to commission art, especially in non comic media. I, for example, am writing a tabletop roleplaying game and am strongly considering using AI images for my first project.

  • @jeenkzk5919
    @jeenkzk5919 7 месяцев назад +2

    I am intrigued, and didn’t even consider AI attempting to replicate artist styles of the past. I don’t like the idea of AI replacing the artist but it’s definitely something something fun to toy around with. Now granted for a company that shortstaffed and can’t afford highly talented artists for instances, such as this where you’re a one-man army, I don’t see why not. I would love to see a video of classic pages and cover art of famous comics done in the style of say Jack Kirby, or Steve Dido or anyone else that comes to mind using AI just for sh!ts and giggles.

    • @FizzFop1
      @FizzFop1  7 месяцев назад

      Hey, thanks for watching! I suspect the next generation is really going to take it to the next level.

  • @brianmurphy250
    @brianmurphy250 5 месяцев назад

    You have a great channel! Don’t let these knee jerk reactions get you down!

  • @mikemahaffey9121
    @mikemahaffey9121 7 месяцев назад +3

    Like anything else , technology can be used for good or ill. I do understand artists' concerns over their work being stolen or to be replaced by them. I hope that doesn't happen.

  • @MrEdWeirdoShow
    @MrEdWeirdoShow 7 месяцев назад

    Random mentions: Spell Madam with an e on the end of it.
    The character Thunderbolt was grabbed by Charlton Comics in the 1960s.
    But instead of black, he had a lot of red on his costume. Interesting stuff.
    I do a lot of jokes in my webcomic writing, and I hear that AI
    does not do well with setups and punchlines. We'll see.

  • @J.Tower11
    @J.Tower11 7 месяцев назад +3

    Pay no mind to the people who throw shade your way.
    If they can’t appreciate the passion, commitment, and joy you put into your content; then they just don’t get it.
    Continued success to you and your endeavors.
    Cheers.

  • @geoffchurchill5492
    @geoffchurchill5492 4 месяца назад +1

    one limitation I've found is the AI can't design a recurring character

  • @HepCatJack
    @HepCatJack 7 месяцев назад +1

    More of a Daredevil, Batman and Iron Fist mashup given the insignia.

  • @Scotty-Z70
    @Scotty-Z70 7 месяцев назад +3

    41 minutes.....okay, but i'll prolly watch in chunks...ADHD.

    • @FizzFop1
      @FizzFop1  7 месяцев назад +2

      The dynamite hits about 30 minutes in.

    • @Scotty-Z70
      @Scotty-Z70 7 месяцев назад

      @@FizzFop1 I’ll return to the video later. I don’t think I got that far yet

  • @Mark761966
    @Mark761966 7 месяцев назад

    I like Black Star's extra finger. Always the mark of a gentleman 😂

  • @daviderwin4705
    @daviderwin4705 7 месяцев назад +3

    I forsee a time when artists can contractually consent to the use of their style by an AI model for a percentage of the profit of any works made by said method. Less than the artist gets paid for a complete work, but a minimalised investment of time as well.
    The big hullabaloo is over what constitutes consent. Raking and faking online galleries must not even be construed as tacit consent for any reasonable AI production sream to actually function. They have limited what AI is allowed to do with music along those lines. Graphic arts, I'm sure will follow.
    It is an interesting time, to be sure, when even the old job safe advice "learn to code" is beginning to mean "learn to prompt".

    • @okloshbrokla8154
      @okloshbrokla8154 7 месяцев назад

      Imagine being sich a paychopath you describe billions of people loosing their jobs their passion in life abd the death of human expression as a "hullaballo" ..first of all NO YOU CRETIN AI ART CANNOT BE COPYRIGHTED SO NO ONE WILL MALE MONEY OUT OF SOMETHIBG THAT CANNOT BY DEFAULT BE OWNED thank fucking god lawmakers in the us chose right on this make your garbate but it dosent belong to you you cant make a living with ai
      And multuple artists are using ai companys and stupid morons using ai too seethe

    • @FizzFop1
      @FizzFop1  7 месяцев назад +2

      I can see that happening. I could also see Marvel or DC taking their libraries of stories and art to put in an AI...then, they could sell it on a subscription basis. New stories would be generated by AI that would be directly aimed at the reader.

  • @travishiltz4750
    @travishiltz4750 7 месяцев назад

    Recently discovered Johnston's other characters. He really cranked them out, in the hopes of hitting the jackpot.
    So many good characters, amazed somebody hasn't scooped them up to do new stories or create a comic universe.
    This was an interesting experiment. Results were hit or miss.
    Liked the color scheme on Green Ghost (one of my favorites) but he looked too high class and stylish. The Ghost was very street level.
    The Crimson Clown design was one of my favorites.

    • @FizzFop1
      @FizzFop1  7 месяцев назад +1

      I was having too much fun with the AI. I gave the AI photos of ballrooms and it took it...and mixed it with something else I had. It was spur of the second. I liked it, so I decided to use it instead of the one I intended to use. The one I made for the Green Ghost was almost identical to the Bat. That's why I went with this one.

    • @travishiltz4750
      @travishiltz4750 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@FizzFop1 That's fine. I'm not raging against it.
      It's a fun experiment, just in my brain, my versions would look different.

  • @Darkwingsamural
    @Darkwingsamural 3 дня назад

    Just wondering where you are. Always love your videos

    • @FizzFop1
      @FizzFop1  3 дня назад +1

      Hi Darkwingsamurai! Thanks for asking. I'm working on videos-I took on way too much at one time. I need to finish one and get it out. My computer is also ancient. It takes forever to render.

    • @Darkwingsamural
      @Darkwingsamural 3 дня назад

      @@FizzFop1 No worries just glad you're ok and still doing your thing. 😁

  • @Bucky749
    @Bucky749 7 месяцев назад +1

    The spider one makes me think maybe a cartoon version. Of Nero wolf and Archie Goodwind .

  • @marktheshark7588
    @marktheshark7588 7 месяцев назад +4

    This was a good exercise Fizz.I think people kinda overreact with the whole AI thing.I do love the concept designs of the Demon and The Black Bat that the AI come up with.

  • @lazlodeathray7156
    @lazlodeathray7156 2 месяца назад +1

    John Henry was trains and train tracks, right? Not a drilling into a mountain… right? I mean… one the postage stamp you showed… with the train on it? “John Henry was a STEEL-DRIVING MAN”… right? Like… driving the steel spikes into the train tracks… right? RIGHT? Anyways… love your videos and how you’re doing well! Make more videos!

    • @FizzFop1
      @FizzFop1  2 месяца назад +2

      It's trains and a mountain. The John Henry legend was that he had to dig a train tunnel through a mountain and he competed against a steam drill. They had to dig two tunnels for each direction. The steam drill broke down and John Henry finished his tunnel. He died of a heart attack afterwards.

  • @geoffchurchill5492
    @geoffchurchill5492 4 месяца назад

    I wonder because the AI needs a bank of references to draw from to design, I noticed the first dozen I asked for using the prompt super villain I kept gtting variations on Dr Doom

  • @KickItStinky
    @KickItStinky 7 месяцев назад

    Another great video. Very informative. Keep up the great content.

  • @bar-1studios
    @bar-1studios 7 месяцев назад +2

    Don't forget some powerful, but seldom explored stylization prompts. (Comma) Action Figure Diorama & (Comma) TTRPG Miniatures Diorama.
    And play with decades if you use an anime prompts. Results get really interesting.
    And don't forget "Claymation"!

    • @FizzFop1
      @FizzFop1  7 месяцев назад +1

      Oh my gosh!!!!! You just opened up a whole new world for me!!! Also, try Lego figure. I got some fun results with that.

    • @bar-1studios
      @bar-1studios 7 месяцев назад

      @@FizzFop1 it will even make "Trading Cards" and "CCG (Collectible Card Game) Cards"

  • @spot.themagicninja6087
    @spot.themagicninja6087 7 месяцев назад +1

    AI is just a tool. It is as inevitable as any other advancement, and trying to stop it is like standing in front of a moving train. Its existence doesn't keep you from making art without it still. It does not detract from peoples ability to do art, and it will in fact open the door to more people being able to do it. It was the same when the camera was invented, then the TV. As for it "Taking Jobs", history is full of jobs that are no longer needed. How do you think the horse tenders felt about the automobile. When artists rally against it, they are merely gatekeeping. I went to school for digital art in 2002, and have been hearing this argument since the invention of Photoshop. These are just tools, and it will help to know how to use them.

  • @laladoopsy
    @laladoopsy 7 месяцев назад +6

    You do you, I love your vids and if using AI helps you put out more than fuck it, I welcome it. Thank you these vids, I've learnt alot

    • @okloshbrokla8154
      @okloshbrokla8154 7 месяцев назад

      ...wait so your interested in seeing some random colors generated by ai ? So why even watch this channel you can run his voice through a ai and have the same result

    • @FizzFop1
      @FizzFop1  7 месяцев назад

      Well, hopefully not the same result. I do see more and more videos relying on AI...the AI voices are killing me because the video creators are not putting inflections on their voice over track.

  • @BATCHARRO
    @BATCHARRO 7 месяцев назад +2

    I think anything involving sequences of art requiring consistency and continuity is gonna always be too much for AI. You're gonna spend more time trying to get Joker to look like the same Joker from panel to panel that you could have used just hiring an artist drawing it.
    But anyone who can't see the obvious benefits of being able to produce a halfway decent rendering of an image is just fucking blind, I'm sorry. Even if it's "bad" it's better than what most people out there can do and cheap to free.
    I've seen some people say A.I. should only use public domain materials which I think is hilarious. I think it's a sick joke. We haven't had things enter the public domain for 40 years. Things only started lapsing back until 2019. And now that it's entering it's stuff from 100 fucking years ago. I don't believe our copyright system is a good barometer for what art it is ethical to use, is what I'm saying. And we have the numbers, too: Back when works under copyright required renewal, the vast majority of them didn't even renew. But of course under the way it works even this text you are reading is automatically copyrighted for damn well a century.
    In terms of copyright I think, I feel in my heart...I don't believe using the art to train the ai is by itself infringement. I believe the resulting art could be considered infringement but like...and I'm sorry to put it this way....if you're on the set of a movie and you're having the actor watch another movie to "do a character like that"...that's not infringement on copyright. If you're watching a painting to "do a painting like that" that's not infringement.
    Then again I'm not the judge deciding this, so who cares what I think. -

    • @FizzFop1
      @FizzFop1  7 месяцев назад +1

      I care. You're on this AI ride with me...with all of us. We have to start figuring out the ethics and terms of usage for AI. I think we are going to have a golden age of AI very shortly...who knows where that's going to lead. It's going to be exciting and scary.

  • @rickybryan1759
    @rickybryan1759 7 месяцев назад +1

    Some of those pulp stories would be great to adapt

    • @FizzFop1
      @FizzFop1  7 месяцев назад +2

      ...and they're all in public domain.

    • @rickybryan1759
      @rickybryan1759 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@FizzFop1 I’m not sure which o r I like best, I think the Spider concept is strong, disgraced rich dude forced to do crimes for a criminal mastermind but not liking it. It feels like a nice tight TV show format - three main cast members… our guy co stay my searching for his ‘out’

  • @geoffchurchill5492
    @geoffchurchill5492 4 месяца назад

    I wonder how they'd do the proportions if you say in the style of Rob liefeld would it hide the hands?

  • @MadisonCarter
    @MadisonCarter 7 месяцев назад +5

    I cannot support those who support AI.

  • @Mark761966
    @Mark761966 7 месяцев назад +1

    Do The Demon as drawn by Rob Liefeld!

  • @AlienIOIandroktone
    @AlienIOIandroktone 7 месяцев назад +4

    You do make the backlash to AI sound like it's all about just being threatened by technology doing their job better/cheaper than they can.
    The ai is being unlawfully trained on their own work, with ai companies scraping any image/text they can regardless of whether it's copyrighted.
    That's where the backlash is primarily coming from. Not comparable to the steam drill.

  • @ComedianBobFarrell
    @ComedianBobFarrell 7 месяцев назад

    This was an interesting video. I enjoyed the AI art you made and, the rthical points you brought up.

    • @FizzFop1
      @FizzFop1  7 месяцев назад

      Thank you for watching. This topic is only going to get more heated.

  • @lazlodeathray7156
    @lazlodeathray7156 4 месяца назад

    How you doing? I hope you’re working on more videos!

  • @markheberlein1224
    @markheberlein1224 7 месяцев назад

    Brave video, my friend. Good job. You ROCK. 👍👍👍👍👍

    • @FizzFop1
      @FizzFop1  7 месяцев назад

      Thank you for watching!

  • @elactordeloops8286
    @elactordeloops8286 4 дня назад

    Dude!!! where are you im missing your old comics videos!!

    • @FizzFop1
      @FizzFop1  3 дня назад +1

      I'm working on stuff. I will put something out soon...I hope...maybe?

  • @winstonblakely3846
    @winstonblakely3846 7 месяцев назад

    This is like a twilight zone episode a classic one at best. The machines take over and replace human workers. Then they replace the company that used the machine to replace the workers. Some of the AI is interesting and can be used as reference for a traditional artist to tell a story, but there will always be someone who will want an artist signature at a comic book show or to meet the artist that entertain them while they were reading a graphic novel or standard comic book you can't do that with AI technology although this is creepy, I think artists can still do what they have to do to be recognized and it's nice to see you again back in action regardless of this tales from the crypt episode

  • @zodlord5669
    @zodlord5669 7 месяцев назад

    I dont feel threatened by AI.

  • @thomasdeja523
    @thomasdeja523 7 месяцев назад +2

    Here's the deal--AI is a toy. I suspect it never will be more than a toy. It can be used as a tool to *direct* inspiration, but it is in no way a replacement for actual creativity. I've used it to help me visualize things, but I always ended up doing the work for myself.
    You're not hurting anyone, my friend. You are using a toy....as a toy, not as an end-all and be-all.

    • @FizzFop1
      @FizzFop1  7 месяцев назад +1

      Right now it's a toy. It reminds me of digital photography. The first cameras were less than a meg-pixel. Everything was blurry and full of digital artifacts. I can remember friends who were pro-photographers saying that it wasn't going to amount to anything...then, the tech took off and it created a division in the photo field. The tech eventually won out.

  • @matthewhood7844
    @matthewhood7844 7 месяцев назад +1

    The design that the AI added to the moon of the "Jim Lee" picture at 31:25 is an odd addition. Interesting experiment.

  • @multi-voiceentertainment7013
    @multi-voiceentertainment7013 7 месяцев назад

    I have a great idea sence you can't do Buck Rogers there's other sci-fi heroes I think you can do. How about EE "Doc" Smith's Lensmen, Edgar Rice Burroughs John Carter of Mars or Isaac Asimov's David Starr Space Ranger?

  • @GuyEndore
    @GuyEndore 7 месяцев назад +4

    AI is fun to play with.

    • @FizzFop1
      @FizzFop1  7 месяцев назад

      That it is...it also makes for a fun evening with friends. We came up with all sorts of story ideas off of some of our renderings.

  • @williamtodd6614
    @williamtodd6614 7 месяцев назад +3

    What AI art generator are you using?

    • @walsingham-xxiii
      @walsingham-xxiii 7 месяцев назад

      Apparently it’s a secret.

    • @channel1344
      @channel1344 7 месяцев назад

      Leonardo AI

    • @FizzFop1
      @FizzFop1  7 месяцев назад

      Yes, I'm working on Leonardo AI. It doesn't have the best engine...MidJourney gets credited for that...but Leonardo is the most user friendly. Easy to learn and use. I've had some fun evenings sitting around with friends experimenting with it.

    • @FizzFop1
      @FizzFop1  7 месяцев назад

      Leonardo.

  • @apex2000
    @apex2000 7 месяцев назад +3

    Luddites Vs Looms (steam powered). Hate to say it but... the Looms won

  • @apex2000
    @apex2000 7 месяцев назад

    Madam Madcap sounds fun.

  • @channel1344
    @channel1344 7 месяцев назад +9

    Don't let people get you down about generative AI. Most of the "anti-AI" crowd are terminally online losers who only care because their Twitter art commission money is now in danger. Keep up the good work.

    • @cagowolfe4821
      @cagowolfe4821 7 месяцев назад +7

      I agree that people shouldn't try to put people down for using AI but youre doing the same thing to them. I'm personally against the use of AI art and I have valid reasons for that. You calling people who are "anti ai" terminally online losers makes you no different from them who call you a thief and cheapskate. Also, if their job is their art, yeah, they have a very valid complaint when it's being taken from them and replaced with the garbage thievery that AI creates

  • @lazlodeathray7156
    @lazlodeathray7156 7 месяцев назад +2

    Make more videos! I really like them!

  • @abyssal113
    @abyssal113 7 месяцев назад +1

    Honestly I mostly agree with you. AI is probably going to make a lot of people lose their jobs, even if it is used ethically. For example, you mostly made AI design stuff from text prompts, but you can also use AI to color your art, to turn your art into pixel art or to adapt your art to other styles, like watercolors or cgi. And if you are an artist who has hundreds of pieces of art of your own property, you can use them to train an AI to color your art in your style, AND if you use it only to color your art while drawing the linework yourself, it is going to be an ethical use by almost all measures.
    This isn't done much right now because all current AI interfaces are still very limited, so the AI might decide that the moon is a giant eye or a character's leg that was kicking from behind someone is a hand, that a shadow is a cat, etc. but once it is integrated into something more "photoshop-like" and you are able to paint areas of a drawing slowly with your prompts, it is going to easily replace most current digital art painting techniques for people on a budget. And this is going to probably happen in the very near future.

    • @FizzFop1
      @FizzFop1  7 месяцев назад

      One thing I've been playing around with is taking my art and uploading it for the AI to re-make it. The results are still not consistent, but it does produce interesting images.

  • @Benjamin-ug5fu
    @Benjamin-ug5fu 7 месяцев назад +1

    People forget that artists throughout time have been influenced and copied other artist styles in their work. 😮

  • @Sazman
    @Sazman 7 месяцев назад +2

    At this point people need to just accept this. AI is here. Yeah it sucks but what can you do about it now?

  • @Melvinshermen
    @Melvinshermen 7 месяцев назад +1

    And also dude, the only thing i hate about ai art is finger.
    And two Here one If the damm Coyote vs acme get made. Can you do joey green cliffhanger justice vs Ian frazier Coyote vs acme

  • @JohnJackson-hv8it
    @JohnJackson-hv8it 7 месяцев назад +2

    Looks great! Personally, I love your posts, and I not only think this was a fun one, but I feel like you should do more! One thing I learned a long time ago is, you're not going to make everyone happy, so don't try. Some one is going to be offended by plaid when it's pink and green or someone will be offended because you used a comma instead of a period.
    Just let these folks wallow in their political and social hang ups and the rest of us will go about our normally scheduled lives.

    • @okloshbrokla8154
      @okloshbrokla8154 7 месяцев назад

      People across both political spectrums hate or like ai its a deep philosophical problem you cant sweep under the rug you are a child

  • @superby1
    @superby1 7 месяцев назад

    This was so much fun!

    • @FizzFop1
      @FizzFop1  7 месяцев назад +1

      A couple of weeks ago, I spent an evening with friends playing with AI. It was a fun evening. We came up with so many characters and story ideas.

  • @Bucky749
    @Bucky749 7 месяцев назад

    Good the demon is the devil from AEW !!!! Who knew .

  • @mitchbray6637
    @mitchbray6637 7 месяцев назад

    Never mind about AI...The Demon has an interesting and really great emotional premise and I think that this character should have gotten more attention! Still, not as cool as Zorro, though.

    • @FizzFop1
      @FizzFop1  7 месяцев назад +1

      All of these characters/stories have something going for them. I hoping some creative types jump on some of these characters and run with them.

    • @mitchbray6637
      @mitchbray6637 7 месяцев назад

      @@FizzFop1 agreed.

  • @davidlow862
    @davidlow862 7 месяцев назад +1

    The AI Spider image makes me think of Nero Wolfe :)

  • @BoSmith7045
    @BoSmith7045 7 месяцев назад +1

    "Doris and Dorkis"!?! Dorkis was actually a name at one point? Anyway... until someone is actually able to control the AI precisely ( camera angle, light source, add or remove elements from a rendered image without completely changing it...) then this will just be a novelty. When that finally happens then artist can worry.

    • @TerrickTerran
      @TerrickTerran 7 месяцев назад

      Dorcas was a name from the Bible. Not sure about that spelling though.

    • @BoSmith7045
      @BoSmith7045 7 месяцев назад

      @@TerrickTerran I think your spelling is probably correct. But how it's pronounced....😆

    • @FizzFop1
      @FizzFop1  7 месяцев назад

      Yeah, when you can put in screen play and film director style commands, I think it will be game over for a lot of artists.

    • @FizzFop1
      @FizzFop1  7 месяцев назад

      That's one of those things I wondered about. I thought that perhaps the "K" sound was actually a soft "C" sound...it's one of those things I should have looked into before making this video.

    • @BoSmith7045
      @BoSmith7045 7 месяцев назад

      @@FizzFop1 I wouldn't worry about it. It's part of the charm of winging it.

  • @DPLEET
    @DPLEET 7 месяцев назад

    What AI service are you using?

    • @FizzFop1
      @FizzFop1  7 месяцев назад

      All of these were made with Leonardo AI. I chose it because I read that it had the easiest interface and had a lot of interesting model designs to chose from.

  • @notmyname5591
    @notmyname5591 7 месяцев назад

    Always look forward to the next video.

  • @mr.midnight1997
    @mr.midnight1997 7 месяцев назад +2

    Can't wait for AI to replace actual writers and artists...

    • @FizzFop1
      @FizzFop1  7 месяцев назад

      I'm getting feedback from people all over the spectrum on this issue. A lot of people feel the way you do.

  • @Bucky749
    @Bucky749 7 месяцев назад

    I like Jack Kirby and Wally wood the best .

    • @FizzFop1
      @FizzFop1  7 месяцев назад +1

      I think those two came pretty close to catching the artist's style.

  • @tonygriego6382
    @tonygriego6382 7 месяцев назад +2

    I have no problem with AI. Great video.

  • @DarthBeaman
    @DarthBeaman 7 месяцев назад +5

    Too funny. I looked for an artist for years to partner up with me for a comic strip. Various ideas, at least twenty proposals. NEVER worked out. Most were borderline rude about it, and a few who flat out deserved a knuckle sandwich or two. AI brought "Portside Portraits" to life. Since, I've had THREE artists offer to help "refine" my work. It's too late. Whatever level of success I achieve I will do it on my own. I'm fine without them. Recently, I made three tribute slideshows to Norman Rockwell. I think they're spectacular. Could an actual artist have done better paintings? Probably. BUT it wouldn't have taken weeks; it would have taken years. And it sure as hell wouldn't have been free.

    • @FizzFop1
      @FizzFop1  7 месяцев назад +1

      I'm looking forward to seeing your project when it's done!

  • @michaelgarcia5493
    @michaelgarcia5493 7 месяцев назад

    Ai should be used the right way not the wrong way

  • @alexandershawn440
    @alexandershawn440 2 месяца назад +1

    31:24

  • @peterdoa1
    @peterdoa1 7 месяцев назад +4

    rather than complaining about progress prehaps they should use a.i. as a tool to enchance there works

    • @lazer-ape
      @lazer-ape 7 месяцев назад +1

      from the get go Ive seen AI image generation as a great aid for artists. I draw often and sometimes simple things like compositions or basic designs can escape me. Alot of the stuff I generate serves to get the ball rolling.

  • @multi-voiceentertainment7013
    @multi-voiceentertainment7013 7 месяцев назад +2

    Hey sir I'm a big fan of your show and I really do like the AI designs that you use I think they are really awesome. I mean Heck if I wanted to do some designs I would use an AI for it. And I'll be looking forward for more information of pulp fiction and forgotten heroes. I am kind of curious so what would a if you going to do a Buck Rogers one I wonder how is it going to look like from AI design.

    • @FizzFop1
      @FizzFop1  7 месяцев назад +1

      I've run some Buck Rogers promps through the AI. Haven't hit gold yet.

    • @bar-1studios
      @bar-1studios 7 месяцев назад

      Remaking a Buck Rogers or flash Gordon visuals would entail entering text like, "Art Deco Spaceships" to get the right visual flair

  • @BMIWorks
    @BMIWorks 7 месяцев назад

    Artists try to copy other artists work all the time, so what’s the difference?

  • @Melvinshermen
    @Melvinshermen 7 месяцев назад +2

    Wow

  • @CinemaniacComicsCorner
    @CinemaniacComicsCorner 7 месяцев назад +1

    This is a very interesting excercise. Shame that so many people gave you so much trouble over this. I get that it’s a sore topic, especially for many creative people, but just burying your head in the sand and trying to shout people into not using AI or even talking about it isn’t going to work. AI is here to stay, whether we like it or not, and we have to deal with it. Videos like this are good because it offers insight into how AI works and what you can do with it and knowing those things will help us imagine all the things it could and will be used for.
    I also agree that there is no way that companies like Marvel & DC won’t start using AI. It’s a question of when, not if. I think that at this rate we might even be only a year or two away from seeing them either announce that they will be publishing something generated by AI or they will just try to do it without revealing it. Using AI will be much more economic for them in the long run, that’s no question, so it’s bound to happen, but what are the ethics and legalities of it? For example, if they own the art of an artist who did some work for hire for them, can they choose to freely use that art to teach AI? And how long before artists will have to agree in any contracts they might sign, that they must let the companies use their art to also train AI? Whether you agree to that kind of thing or not might be the determining factor to get in if you want to work for the big two and you might have to be a really big name to be desirable enough to be able to say no on that matter.

  • @GhostBusters-wb4un
    @GhostBusters-wb4un 2 месяца назад

    Lol hi ai Batman

  • @zodlord5669
    @zodlord5669 7 месяцев назад

    Alot of AI steal from other artisits

  • @alexandershawn440
    @alexandershawn440 2 месяца назад

    29:10

  • @Quinntopia
    @Quinntopia 7 месяцев назад

    People need to chill. There is zero reason for the profanity and vileness displayed by the anti-AI group. It’s a bunch of silly pictures but you act like this is something actually important. Grow up

  • @CHRISMED2
    @CHRISMED2 7 месяцев назад

    AI is the devil!!! LOL

  • @GuyEndore
    @GuyEndore 7 месяцев назад +3

    31:39 to artist who think that ai is stealing art, ask yourself has any artist ever used the style of another artist when drawing. Of course it is impossible not to do so. I don’t get the overly emotional response to ai.

  • @ronnsutton4902
    @ronnsutton4902 7 месяцев назад

    Man don't explain your motives for using something new to be creative , and don't listen to a pack of hardliners that fear being replaced by tech, because the fact is the only ones who fear tech in the art world are the artists and creators that really belong in a different vocation, one better suited to there abilities like a top flight position in the food service industry.

  • @apex2000
    @apex2000 7 месяцев назад +2

    They probably got annoyed as you probably have fans who are artists who would do this stuff for free, or at least credit.... Lot artists touchy about AI. Just a guess.

  • @astrozombiac3535
    @astrozombiac3535 7 месяцев назад +1

    You using AI doesn't bother me. You're a smaller channel and I doubt you can afford to pay an artist a decent wage for their work. Plus, I figured this was just a fun little experiment and I seriously doubt you meant anything by using it.

    • @FizzFop1
      @FizzFop1  7 месяцев назад +2

      I'm not sure how or when I'm going to use it. Sometimes though, I struggle to find an image to fit in with the story I'm telling.

    • @astrozombiac3535
      @astrozombiac3535 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@FizzFop1 I think you told a great story with this vid and raised plenty of good questions and points. I also want to congratulate you on your delivery, you're just as good without a script as you are with. Not a lot of filled words like "uh" or "um" and you stayed on topic with rambling. So, good job and, as always, I look forward to your next video.