good video, i love the list and the theory behind it. i actually just cut the branded package from my deck before finding this video so very good timing too lol
@@prophecywizi have been testing in solo and cannot believe how much better this feels. opened 2 nadir's servant, 2 veiler, imperm, and played??? like full board??? this is the fucking goo bro, branded package is not doing that
Thank you so much for the thorough explanations! Picked up the deck about 2 weeks ago and thanks to you im now swapping 3 Prosperities for 3 Nadir hahaha Also cutting the Old Man and one Sauravis has actually helped a lot
Im definitely gonna try this build out, I already play 45, so I can fit nadir engine plus old man. The old man take is probably the most controversial. In a 40 card list I can see it being a brick but nadir being a spell also makes it live more often. For the side deck id recommend cutting called by for TCOBO. Maybe its just me and my player skill, but when I get to a game 3 going 1st, I always just wish I have more cards that tell my opponent no, because SG plus floodgates is just impossible to get over. Especially since your build can play going 2nd better with Nadir I think you have more leway to build the side for going 1st.
Thank you so much! And I have played TCBOO however if you full combo u just win every time but if you get shiftered it can be difficult with certain hands which is where called by takes precedence for me personally, I really appreciate the support and follow and the comment because I love discussing this deck and yugioh!!
Your list is most definitly one of the lists that im gonna go off of my only issue is im debating on whether or not I wanna pick up the dogmatika engine and what. Targets would you use?
not playing old man is a crazy take. but saying that branded fusion won't get u to cards is so wrong. branded dumps trias, lo, saffira even rituals sometimes to trigger trap. it lets you play through handtraps like droll baits out ash and forces cards like imperm veiler. the MJ or Dracostapelia on end board is just a bonus. going forward in a heavy droll format I would cut cards like preprep and. play cards like Brafu to counter that.
Factually you get to way more engine with nadir with that argument but you also get handtraps that don’t lose to drnm or droplet. And u can’t cut preprep or u will get choke slammed by shifter
Thoughts on playing 2 Herald of the Arc Light? Seems to me like going first, it would guarantee your ability to go full combo with Nadir Servant, whereas otherwise you would just get some draws and one search for either Skull or Prayers.
I wish it worked like that and if it did this would be better than full power tear but u can’t dump herald to search Maximus bc it’s attack has to be higher or equal
Day 9 of thinking you should release an in depth combo tutorial with all this stuff immediately, there’s a bunch of disjointed combos online and I wanna see how you play without The Old Man. Much love!
I don't necessarily agree with the absolutist rhetoric because it seems that your top 8 has facilitated some survivorship bias. However I am very interested in your abilities and how you can play through multiple handtraps. That's something I've struggled with and want to learn from someone better. Looking forward to your next vid on this 🙏🏿
Trust it’s not the regional it’s playing thousands of hours with this deck, I am excited to make that video and show the lines and how I go about playing past HTs! Thank you for the support!!
I do like the deck profile. There's a few things I'm a little unsure of but overall good. I have played 3 variants of this deck and this one is by far the most intriguing. Look forward to more content and the post info deck profile. Would love to meet ya at nats!
I stopped playing this Nadir build solely because of Droll and Lock Bird. I didn't get droll'd all the time, but I figure if some people are maining or siding it, I am better off not putting it in And when I did get droll'd, it just felt so bad because I'd opened up well until it happened, which made more cards dead and inactive bc essentially I was being greedy. I don't think you can say that this is the only way to play with Voiceless. Yes I see your points with consistency but the chokepoint on the constant searches and draw is very huge. Also, if you open the handtrap only and Almiraj line with Maximus, then shifter is DEFINITELY something that will cripple you. Through a Draw Phase shifter, Branded Fusion+ Blessings is Lo on field with trap in your backrow, with a myriad of ways of having a Ritual Spell or Mons through Preprep, pot of prosp, etc. I honestly think there are so many ways to play this deck. I've played it with the 20 handtraps, I've played it with zero hand traps, with old man, without old man, 3 pre prep, 0 preprep, no diviner, diviner, branded, non-branded, fenrir, pot of prosp, etc. There's not a build that is superior to the other. There are some builds I personally wouldn't pilot, but it's not to say they're bad, they just don't fit my playstyle and experiences with the deck. I think it's more or less like Yubel where you want to go first and so you build it to where it won't brick, but since there are so many handtraps, if you're opponent bricks, then you might too. I play VV currently, both with Branded Fusion with the option of siding them out G2 and G3, and the same with the diviner package. It does help me and if I side the package out I usually go with Fenrir or Evenly/ Dark Ruler or impactful handtraps or floodgates, which works for me. Congrats on winning with the deck. I really think this deck would be tier 1 if it was a touch more degenerate like Snake Eyes is.
I appreciate the long comment and the thought out response. The reason I had said it’s the only way to play the deck is because it then makes it so u don’t need to play tiger backrow removal and more importantly draws handtraps bc that is what u need to support your board with. And yes I agree once snake dies this is insane but it is already so good too
@@yeeman1135 oh the mandatory one, yeah that’s cool not worth playing tho. If anything u should consider fiendsmith but nothing is 1/100th what nadir is
What is "The Old Man" that you refer to that interacts with Dimensional Barrier and Dimension Shifter? I only play Master Duel so I'm just curious. It can't be any of the Solemn cards because none of them stop both those cards. (Voiceless is coming to Master Duel soon.)
I love playing voiceless Ive been going back in forth with changing things about this deck but with how I’ve been changing it I find myself making my deck stronger on certain decks and then weaker on other im definitely gonna give think deck list a try and see how I feel. What are your thoughts about siding like dark ruler no more and i would love to see a video were you go over plays using the extra deck and showing what you are side decking switching out going game 2 or 3 and then what decks you would do that on. Right now im playing voiceless with branded jowgen lock and 12 hand traps but i have a hard time playing yubel going 2nd and snake eyes going 2nd and runick going 2nd. Also what do you think about the new support with the new trap card do you think it should be played? Love the video man inspiring and helping me improve as a player. 🙂💯
I forgot to ask in my first comment, but what are your thoughts on the new continous trap on INFO? Haven't seen much people talk about it and it didn't seem that good to me
I recently topped a case tournament. I put in the Nadir package last minute and it was the best decision. I feel is the best way to play the deck now I never thought about removing the old man, because in theory is a good card. I will follow your advice. What do you think about cosmic cyclone, magnamuht, TTT and Ultimate Slayer?
This video is really great, just started looking into the deck, it's great to have an argument for each card. Would you run 3 crossout and 1 d barrier for nationals though? I have seen a lot of people using it and although this deck does have options (S:P and even chaos angel in some lists) I feel calling ritual still hurts the deck. Hope you make a combo video in depth sometime to play around handtraps and optimize card usage
I def will make a combo video and I would not play crossout barrier bc I can stop my opponent with handtraps and if I get barriered I just activate barrier with lo Search blessings and summon on my opps turn using lo for skull and set trap so u still end with both spells the trap and lo skull guardian thru barrier
@@prophecywiz I see I see, didn't think about that one, definitely need to start testing this deck lol, thanks for the answer and will wait for that combo video eagerly
Thanks for the amazing vid brother! I’ve in the recent months returned to yugioh and have been struggling to catch wins at locals mainly due to misplays, poor play, and questionable deck building. Could you go in depth on how this deck can beat specific matchups going forward? And what’s the best end board cause I clearly don’t use I:P correctly in the deck but I also don’t have S:P cause imma brokey 😂
How do you recycle your ritual spell without old man? Plus old man summoning dustbins with blessing so you can double Sauravis is broken. It’s only one card isn’t a brick and a free extender/body at worst. Can’t agree with you on that
I don’t play double sauravis because it’s super unnecessary. See I have played old man but you have likely not ever even tried without it. The card is horrific at best and I will never again play that card as long as I play this deck. Also u recycle the ritual spell by shuffling back with the trap and adding it back off blessings if u need to also trap can summon saffira from deck link off and use from grave to ritual. If you know what your doing and play without old man you will never miss it I promise, give it a try
what sleeves do you use? and how do you sleeve the cards. just want to know since i dont have any yet and would like to play with sleeves lol since lo is still 20 per card. also any good deck box recommendations?
@@prophecywiz yeah I have just secrets and stuff. I like the feel of single sleeves a lot. But when you are balling like you for sure I can see it lol. Can’t wait to see the deck profile for next format.
@@prophecywiz I think I asked in another comment. But is much going to change? I’m a super new yugioh player and I done about 200 hours of testing a basic vv deck to learn but I loved this variant. Is much going to change? Also would love to know if you have a discord.
What upgrades would u make, now that the fiendsmith engine is out? From my testing, I do feel like Droll and Nib might be better in the main then Ghost Mourner at this point... Did u come to the same conclusion?
I have a question that i don't understand with this deck, i hear about the secure gardna+ almiraj+ blessings combo but i don't actually understand how is it a combo, gardna seems to have no sinergy with blessings to me
U summon almiraj with lo, use blessings to add back lo from grave then link the almiraj into guardna and trigger the blessings eff to ritual summon send lo from hand as tribute then special it back with its eff as cl1 to skull guardian
So your build is definitely solid and i agree woth a lot, except with the old man logic. I get that its a brick but its a brick that's needed in my opinion, if you get shiftered and you have LO, you can go thr trap line, special old man and play in your opponent turn for free even under shifter. So how are you playing under shifter without old man, just fold? Also it worls great with the apolusa line, but i see you dont play apolo while playing I.P Masq, which seems incorrect in my opinion. Solid build and a different take for sure.
Definatly don’t fold, most hands still set up lo guardian barrier trap and handtraps. Old man is not necessary he is just super bad imo I highly suggest playing for a week without him before thinking u need him because u will see that you don’t and u brick less
@@prophecywiz perfect .i just picked up the vv core but dont know what to build after was gonna buy all tbe cards shown here but i want to play for next format
@@AnxiousLooter you can comfortably buy every card here. My main deck will be the exact same and the extra deck will be 1-2 cards different and the side deck will likely be 1 or so cards different but 99% the same
I would say no, very simply, because you lose darks and with that sp and similar or ip. You lose also acces to ash, wich is like better then this card.
@@prophecywiz Have you tried it in depth? Of course you cant play herald anymore, but everything else works very well and the newer drytrons except nu2 all synergize extremly well with voiceless. Its not as bad as you think. You basically can make a free apollousa with 2400 atk on top of your normal board while also being able to bait the oppenent even more. The deck is full of very unique interactions and plays. For example: I played through a full fireking/snake-eyes deck (going second) and baited every single interaction with the drytrons just to end on Zeus, wipe their board, use meteonis drytron to summon Guardian with Zeus as tribute and from there just go full combo with Voiceless Voice.
@@Goku-zu3rk the normal board makes apolousa in pure and my main issue with it is the amount of engine u need to put in, I think now more than ever u need as much non engine as possible
@prophecywiz i tested out your deck ans copied it. Its very bricky. Idk..it always depends how the ratio of the engine to the rest is, not the amount of cards of the engine itself.
Finaly someonelse besisdes me stop playing g that shit brick old man! Bro you are in the right way i was even more brave than you in my build but there are two things that i will teste in my build, play 1 sarauvis and play that link tri brigade i really think that will be good
@@prophecywiz makes sense, besides the old man i found really interesting that you do not play chaos angel. I personally find it really good especially as the first line(going 2nd) to then followup the standard vv staff
@@ka3zar16 so the reason I didn’t play it is diviner is super bad going second into literally anything so I side it out going second and if it resolves to that point u we’re going to win
@@prophecywiz hmm I used to side out the diviners too, when I started playing the deck, but after side sometimes more than the times you would expect to happen, it felt that I had too much non engine and my going second play died to one interaption so I feared cutting too much engine from that point onwards. Does that kinda get fixed since nadir can act as both ?
It plays many bricks and is a way larger engine which takes away from handtraps and still gets slammed way harder by backrow floodgates and dark ruler droplet
@@prophecywiz Yeah truth about the brick and larger engine but if u want to cut the brick but im dissagre about the backrow at the moments its not backrow meta and in the second game you always can cut the engine and add more handtrap/backrow stuff (currently im playing with that 44 cards and cutting the engine going second for 2nd or third game)
@@prophecywiz it literally performed well without blessing how could you formulate that? Blessing made it recur more and even better for sure but it was tier 2 deck without blessing in a Fire format
@@prophecywiz I wouldn’t disagree but that still holds true even after blessings in my opinion, think the main thing that is phasing the deck out is Yubel and how our board can lose to both engine and non engine of Yubel
That’s a you thing tho not the deck or the theory. I have multiple ycs tops and have beaten Jesse kotton andres Torres Paulo gozavas christian urena Jeff Jones and countless more. I don’t play or build like and combos to beat scrubs everything I do and play I plan to beat the absolute best with every time
Killer deck profile. One of the best minds in the game. Cant wait to see more. And I appreciate the shout-out king 🙏
Thanks brotha and ofc thanks for recording it!
One of the best profiles i've ever seen in my life!
Thank you so much!
Bro I play VV on master duel. Thank you. I love these long videos that break it down like this.
Thank you so much for watching and commenting it helps the video a ton and makes it worth making them!!
good video, i love the list and the theory behind it. i actually just cut the branded package from my deck before finding this video so very good timing too lol
Thank you!! Great minds think alike
@@prophecywizi have been testing in solo and cannot believe how much better this feels. opened 2 nadir's servant, 2 veiler, imperm, and played??? like full board??? this is the fucking goo bro, branded package is not doing that
@@zacharywright5664 yessir, glad I could help!
Let’s gooo! Congrats Wiz 💫
Thank you and I appreciate all the help from y’all with the RUclips tips!!
Thank you so much for the thorough explanations! Picked up the deck about 2 weeks ago and thanks to you im now swapping 3 Prosperities for 3 Nadir hahaha Also cutting the Old Man and one Sauravis has actually helped a lot
Glad I could help!
Super interested in your siding patterns, i definitely feel like siding is number 1 issue I have with this deck
That may be my next video
I am very much proud of you Dude.
Thank you!!
Hype! Let's gooooo! Excited to start seeing more videos!
Thank you parthosaurusrex!
Amazing in-depth profile king Thank you for the shout out
You know the vibes big dog
Heard you made day 2 of nats! Lets gooo
Yeah bubbled out but I won a case tourney Friday so all good!
@@prophecywiz deck profile of your nats list coming?
@@Fratzu yes :)
We played against each other at the 3v3 in indy we talked theory for a bit good to see you having success
Thank you! We’re you the ones we played first round?
As soon as I heard Chris’s voice I was like wtf? 😂 W
Lol yessir he lives 12 min from me
Im definitely gonna try this build out, I already play 45, so I can fit nadir engine plus old man. The old man take is probably the most controversial. In a 40 card list I can see it being a brick but nadir being a spell also makes it live more often. For the side deck id recommend cutting called by for TCOBO. Maybe its just me and my player skill, but when I get to a game 3 going 1st, I always just wish I have more cards that tell my opponent no, because SG plus floodgates is just impossible to get over. Especially since your build can play going 2nd better with Nadir I think you have more leway to build the side for going 1st.
Im definitely subscribing and looking forward to more voiceless content. Appreciate the video and deck profile.
Thank you so much! And I have played TCBOO however if you full combo u just win every time but if you get shiftered it can be difficult with certain hands which is where called by takes precedence for me personally, I really appreciate the support and follow and the comment because I love discussing this deck and yugioh!!
Your list is most definitly one of the lists that im gonna go off of my only issue is im debating on whether or not I wanna pick up the dogmatika engine and what. Targets would you use?
The deck is unplayable without nadir. I would suggest playing the exact same ones I am playing here
Damn this deck and style is for sure the goo on voiceless
Thank you!!!
We need this updated video 😭😭 I’ve been fumbling with this but I know I’m just playing it wrong to an extent.
Tomorrow at noon
not playing old man is a crazy take. but saying that branded fusion won't get u to cards is so wrong. branded dumps trias, lo, saffira even rituals sometimes to trigger trap. it lets you play through handtraps like droll baits out ash and forces cards like imperm veiler. the MJ or Dracostapelia on end board is just a bonus. going forward in a heavy droll format I would cut cards like preprep and. play cards like Brafu to counter that.
Factually you get to way more engine with nadir with that argument but you also get handtraps that don’t lose to drnm or droplet. And u can’t cut preprep or u will get choke slammed by shifter
Great video! Definitely interested in combos and side deck patterns
I will post that video next!!
Would you change the HT lineup in the main for this format now?
@@anthonyserrao7409 No I am a huge fan of playing the best most generic ones every time in main and siding the others.
Thoughts on playing 2 Herald of the Arc Light? Seems to me like going first, it would guarantee your ability to go full combo with Nadir Servant, whereas otherwise you would just get some draws and one search for either Skull or Prayers.
I wish it worked like that and if it did this would be better than full power tear but u can’t dump herald to search Maximus bc it’s attack has to be higher or equal
Day 9 of thinking you should release an in depth combo tutorial with all this stuff immediately, there’s a bunch of disjointed combos online and I wanna see how you play without The Old Man. Much love!
I am going to, I got covid at nats so I have been pretty sick but I will get it out this week!
I don't necessarily agree with the absolutist rhetoric because it seems that your top 8 has facilitated some survivorship bias. However I am very interested in your abilities and how you can play through multiple handtraps. That's something I've struggled with and want to learn from someone better. Looking forward to your next vid on this 🙏🏿
Trust it’s not the regional it’s playing thousands of hours with this deck, I am excited to make that video and show the lines and how I go about playing past HTs! Thank you for the support!!
Insane vid bro. Keep up the good work. Definitely subscribe your acc.
Love from Germany ❤
Thank you so much!!
Ive been on Nadir YCS Sydney. Its just so fkn good
Absolutely INSANE
I do like the deck profile. There's a few things I'm a little unsure of but overall good. I have played 3 variants of this deck and this one is by far the most intriguing. Look forward to more content and the post info deck profile. Would love to meet ya at nats!
Thank you so much I appreciate that and please come up and say hi that would be awesome to meet someone who watched the video
This was really good!
Thank you
I stopped playing this Nadir build solely because of Droll and Lock Bird. I didn't get droll'd all the time, but I figure if some people are maining or siding it, I am better off not putting it in And when I did get droll'd, it just felt so bad because I'd opened up well until it happened, which made more cards dead and inactive bc essentially I was being greedy. I don't think you can say that this is the only way to play with Voiceless. Yes I see your points with consistency but the chokepoint on the constant searches and draw is very huge. Also, if you open the handtrap only and Almiraj line with Maximus, then shifter is DEFINITELY something that will cripple you. Through a Draw Phase shifter, Branded Fusion+ Blessings is Lo on field with trap in your backrow, with a myriad of ways of having a Ritual Spell or Mons through Preprep, pot of prosp, etc.
I honestly think there are so many ways to play this deck. I've played it with the 20 handtraps, I've played it with zero hand traps, with old man, without old man, 3 pre prep, 0 preprep, no diviner, diviner, branded, non-branded, fenrir, pot of prosp, etc. There's not a build that is superior to the other. There are some builds I personally wouldn't pilot, but it's not to say they're bad, they just don't fit my playstyle and experiences with the deck.
I think it's more or less like Yubel where you want to go first and so you build it to where it won't brick, but since there are so many handtraps, if you're opponent bricks, then you might too. I play VV currently, both with Branded Fusion with the option of siding them out G2 and G3, and the same with the diviner package. It does help me and if I side the package out I usually go with Fenrir or Evenly/ Dark Ruler or impactful handtraps or floodgates, which works for me. Congrats on winning with the deck. I really think this deck would be tier 1 if it was a touch more degenerate like Snake Eyes is.
I appreciate the long comment and the thought out response. The reason I had said it’s the only way to play the deck is because it then makes it so u don’t need to play tiger backrow removal and more importantly draws handtraps bc that is what u need to support your board with. And yes I agree once snake dies this is insane but it is already so good too
11 days we need more ❤
I know I got super sick after nats I’m sorry for the wait
@@prophecywiz I hope you get better soon ❤️
I'm currently learning the deck and this helps a lot. Is there any video of you, you recommend watching for newbies to get into the deck?
Hmm, I would probably check out the combo video and most recent profiles
@ Thanks, will check them out
I would love to see your side patterns sir! Great deck profile😊
Thank you and sounds good I’ll have it in an upcoming video
IMO a good idea for a video would be a voiceless guide of like combos or whatever
I’m going to do that right after nats
Checking out the combo video
Ayee thank you for the support!!
I may come back
You need to come back
would you still run the Nadir package if Nadir Servant was semi-limited? (in the case of MD)
Yes 100%
IDK how it ran without blessings either, seems like it would be rogue
Yeah without blessings this deck is just not playing imo
@@prophecywiz hey I got updated deckliist if your interested bro
@@shaquonAbrams I’ve made quite a few profiles since this that are god tier at minimum
@@prophecywiz yeah bro but you ain't featured the magia combo yet, hook me up bro
Gonna give the nadir package a go. I was trying to make pure VV work but it’s not working as well as I hoped. I think the nadir will help
It will 100% help
this is great was looking for some help with VV on master duel,tnx
Glad I could help’n
Now I will try Nadir again 😂❤ but still Look into the New Fusion in INFO. Its a Triple omni and is light, so you can protect it with Barrier 😊
Which fusion are u referring to?
@@prophecywiz the light and Dark dragonlord, it needs a lvl8 light and Dark Dragon, so Branded Fusion + 1 Discard 👍
@@yeeman1135 oh the mandatory one, yeah that’s cool not worth playing tho. If anything u should consider fiendsmith but nothing is 1/100th what nadir is
For clarificaton, I Need to use him everytime or just trigger him?
And could you do a combovid with nad? ❤
What is "The Old Man" that you refer to that interacts with Dimensional Barrier and Dimension Shifter? I only play Master Duel so I'm just curious. It can't be any of the Solemn cards because none of them stop both those cards.
(Voiceless is coming to Master Duel soon.)
It’s is the non ritual sauravis
Did the meteorburst can special the ritual odd-eyes from pendulum zone ?
No it can’t bc pendulumgraph must ritual summoned or Penn summoned from hand
Can you let me know what you think about the card Dragons bind in voiceless or ritual buster ?
The way to get a monster out for it is through the trap to special saffia level 6 then flip trap a vanity emptyiness kinda not a hard set up
If it was vanity’s I might play it but it’s not u can still summon a ton of monsters under it
What's your thoughts on the Nadir package now that droll is starting to become more of a main deck staple?
The deck is not longer the best deck without nadir
I love playing voiceless Ive been going back in forth with changing things about this deck but with how I’ve been changing it I find myself making my deck stronger on certain decks and then weaker on other im definitely gonna give think deck list a try and see how I feel. What are your thoughts about siding like dark ruler no more and i would love to see a video were you go over plays using the extra deck and showing what you are side decking switching out going game 2 or 3 and then what decks you would do that on. Right now im playing voiceless with branded jowgen lock and 12 hand traps but i have a hard time playing yubel going 2nd and snake eyes going 2nd and runick going 2nd. Also what do you think about the new support with the new trap card do you think it should be played? Love the video man inspiring and helping me improve as a player. 🙂💯
Thank You! And I got sick last weekend but I am going to make a video going over side decking patterns this week
I forgot to ask in my first comment, but what are your thoughts on the new continous trap on INFO? Haven't seen much people talk about it and it didn't seem that good to me
It is soul crushingly bad lol
@@prophecywiz Lol, sad to hear about it
@@erdineep4658 that’s okay though the deck is already insane!
nice job!
Thank you!!
great video
Thank you, I really appreciate that!!
I recently topped a case tournament. I put in the Nadir package last minute and it was the best decision. I feel is the best way to play the deck now
I never thought about removing the old man, because in theory is a good card. I will follow your advice.
What do you think about cosmic cyclone, magnamuht, TTT and Ultimate Slayer?
I like handtraps over breakers so no TTT or slayer but I am currently playing magnamut
This video is really great, just started looking into the deck, it's great to have an argument for each card. Would you run 3 crossout and 1 d barrier for nationals though? I have seen a lot of people using it and although this deck does have options (S:P and even chaos angel in some lists) I feel calling ritual still hurts the deck. Hope you make a combo video in depth sometime to play around handtraps and optimize card usage
I def will make a combo video and I would not play crossout barrier bc I can stop my opponent with handtraps and if I get barriered I just activate barrier with lo Search blessings and summon on my opps turn using lo for skull and set trap so u still end with both spells the trap and lo skull guardian thru barrier
@@prophecywiz I see I see, didn't think about that one, definitely need to start testing this deck lol, thanks for the answer and will wait for that combo video eagerly
@@erdineep4658 hell yeah it will come soon
Thanks for the amazing vid brother! I’ve in the recent months returned to yugioh and have been struggling to catch wins at locals mainly due to misplays, poor play, and questionable deck building. Could you go in depth on how this deck can beat specific matchups going forward? And what’s the best end board cause I clearly don’t use I:P correctly in the deck but I also don’t have S:P cause imma brokey 😂
I will do a combo video and side deck tutorial soon
Smoke show 🔥🔥
Thanks 😘
How do you recycle your ritual spell without old man? Plus old man summoning dustbins with blessing so you can double Sauravis is broken. It’s only one card isn’t a brick and a free extender/body at worst. Can’t agree with you on that
I don’t play double sauravis because it’s super unnecessary. See I have played old man but you have likely not ever even tried without it. The card is horrific at best and I will never again play that card as long as I play this deck. Also u recycle the ritual spell by shuffling back with the trap and adding it back off blessings if u need to also trap can summon saffira from deck link off and use from grave to ritual. If you know what your doing and play without old man you will never miss it I promise, give it a try
I need to see this 21 hand traps in the main after side decking lol
Sneak peak for nats, it’s actually 22 now ;)
@@prophecywiz 👀👀
@@albertotorres3587 yupp
what sleeves do you use? and how do you sleeve the cards. just want to know since i dont have any yet and would like to play with sleeves lol since lo is still 20 per card. also any good deck box recommendations?
I use the hyper mat minis even tho I just got QCR Lo Diviner Saffira etc this weekend so I may start double sleeving
@@prophecywiz yeah I have just secrets and stuff. I like the feel of single sleeves a lot. But when you are balling like you for sure I can see it lol. Can’t wait to see the deck profile for next format.
@@AnxiousLooter thanks, will be up this week
@@AnxiousLooter thank you!
@@prophecywiz I think I asked in another comment. But is much going to change? I’m a super new yugioh player and I done about 200 hours of testing a basic vv deck to learn but I loved this variant. Is much going to change? Also would love to know if you have a discord.
What upgrades would u make, now that the fiendsmith engine is out?
From my testing, I do feel like Droll and Nib might be better in the main then Ghost Mourner at this point... Did u come to the same conclusion?
No I just won a case tourney with a similar list I’ll post after nats
@@prophecywiz thank u very much for the fast reply!
I am gonna playtest some more. U really inspired me to try out the dogmatika stuff in VV!
@@Miorlauuu no problem I love to hear that!
Nadir servant is limited to two only
It’s at 3 in the tcg it’s at 2 in master duel in which case just play the 3rd pre prep
just in case dude you call by the Grave
Called by bangs
Gotta see this deck in action post some marches! I get cooked with this deck.
I can bring some duel replays if you would like to see it!
Thoughts on using Odd-eyes Vortex?
I won’t have any pendulums in extra deck to shuffle back and negate
@prophecywiz right but what about the bounce effect. Would it be worth putting in over Ferrijit or Ty-Phon for that interrupt
@@xlZimlx definitely not over ferrijit I use that 3x a 4 round tourney but I’m considering cutting down dyna and cutting ty phon
Will you be at nationals ?
Yes
I have a question that i don't understand with this deck, i hear about the secure gardna+ almiraj+ blessings combo but i don't actually understand how is it a combo, gardna seems to have no sinergy with blessings to me
U summon almiraj with lo, use blessings to add back lo from grave then link the almiraj into guardna and trigger the blessings eff to ritual summon send lo from hand as tribute then special it back with its eff as cl1 to skull guardian
This deck definitely needs Lo and Diviner in QCSR!!!
😂
I got lo diviner and saffira in QCR last weekend they will be in the next profile lol
@@prophecywiz nice nice,
i love this nadir engine:
its good goin 1 and 2 :)
@@DxCptMatthews yeah Nadir is nuts
I play the Jowgen lock with sanctifire it kinna carried me
Interesting!
Hello you not play dominus purge ?
Check out my latest profile this is really old
Some of em dont even exist in that rarity.
What do u mean?
So your build is definitely solid and i agree woth a lot, except with the old man logic. I get that its a brick but its a brick that's needed in my opinion, if you get shiftered and you have LO, you can go thr trap line, special old man and play in your opponent turn for free even under shifter. So how are you playing under shifter without old man, just fold? Also it worls great with the apolusa line, but i see you dont play apolo while playing I.P Masq, which seems incorrect in my opinion. Solid build and a different take for sure.
Definatly don’t fold, most hands still set up lo guardian barrier trap and handtraps. Old man is not necessary he is just super bad imo I highly suggest playing for a week without him before thinking u need him because u will see that you don’t and u brick less
I know I sound like a noob, but who is “the Old Man”?
Old sauravis
will you be taking the same profile for the next format?
I have some spice I will share shortly
@@prophecywiz perfect .i just picked up the vv core but dont know what to build after was gonna buy all tbe cards shown here but i want to play for next format
@@AnxiousLooter you can comfortably buy every card here. My main deck will be the exact same and the extra deck will be 1-2 cards different and the side deck will likely be 1 or so cards different but 99% the same
@@prophecywiz perfffff can’t wait to see the new profile
@@AnxiousLooter thank you!!
VV best deck
That is a certified fact!
Why no prosperity? I’m all for it just curious on your thoughts?
Nadir gets 2 draws and 2 searches which conflicts and it would fight with handtraps which I think are needed going first and second
did you never miss dharc or lyna? Lyna i can get cutting since it has less application, but Dharc is disgusting when it comes up.
Not really since I don’t play accesscode
@@prophecywiz fair enough! do you still think the nadir package is still worth playing going forward into the droll heavy format?
@@polygon2745 100%
@@polygon2745 without a doubt
It's been 5 days when is the next video
I didn’t want to give away the guu before nats but I won a case. Tourney and bubbled out day 2 of nats
Congratulations ❤❤❤
thought on everyone placing this deck in rogue or below now?
Everyone else has no idea how to play this deck
In master duel nadir is semi limited so what card would be good to add in the deck in place of the 3rd one?
I would play 2 nadir 1 prosperity
Is voicless finally in master duel?
Not yet hopefully this month
Also since maxx c is in master duel which hand trap would you suggest replacing with maxx c?
Maxx c is also in master duel what hand trap would you take out in place of it?
where would you fit chaos angel into the extra?
I would not suggest playing it but if u did need to I would cut Ty-Phon
How do you feel about the new dominus trap in VV?
I’m considering playing it for nationals but I’m still conflicted
i think it will be insane in master duel with voiceless voice, but ash is probably just better with no maxx c
@@zacharywright5664 u can play both in master duel
I would say no, very simply, because you lose darks and with that sp and similar or ip. You lose also acces to ash, wich is like better then this card.
@@Jrpg_guy u can ash first also u can set purge then activate and use darks but SP does not matter if you know what your doing
how do you feel about apkallone and winda in the extra deck?
I like that if I had room
I think voiceless drytron is better than pure
Drytron version is not close to half as good as this version however I appreciate u commenting!
@@prophecywiz Have you tried it in depth? Of course you cant play herald anymore, but everything else works very well and the newer drytrons except nu2 all synergize extremly well with voiceless. Its not as bad as you think.
You basically can make a free apollousa with 2400 atk on top of your normal board while also being able to bait the oppenent even more. The deck is full of very unique interactions and plays.
For example: I played through a full fireking/snake-eyes deck (going second) and baited every single interaction with the drytrons just to end on Zeus, wipe their board, use meteonis drytron to summon Guardian with Zeus as tribute and from there just go full combo with Voiceless Voice.
@@Goku-zu3rk the normal board makes apolousa in pure and my main issue with it is the amount of engine u need to put in, I think now more than ever u need as much non engine as possible
@prophecywiz i tested out your deck ans copied it. Its very bricky. Idk..it always depends how the ratio of the engine to the rest is, not the amount of cards of the engine itself.
@@Goku-zu3rk I’m sorry to hear that, everyone usually seems to do really well with it. What seems to be the issue with the hands?
Great
So where do i put maxx c
No maxx c this format
@@prophecywiz dang
I guess I'll find an ocg list in ROTK
@@bergkatze3186 are u playing ocg format? I thought u were kidding also check out my most recent profile it is more updated
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I appreciate you king!
Finaly someonelse besisdes me stop playing g that shit brick old man! Bro you are in the right way i was even more brave than you in my build but there are two things that i will teste in my build, play 1 sarauvis and play that link tri brigade i really think that will be good
Heck yeah def try them bc you will like them for sure! Glad I could give some insight!!
Next video when ???
Tomorrow
Okidoki
@@prophecywiz 🧢
@@cua6336 it is coming out in one hour, I got super sick sorry about that
@@prophecywizoh get well soon and no need to rush
Can we get more combos video
Yes
Can't wait
What are the side patterns ?
That is going to be a separate video coming soon because it’s intricate and a lot of the patterns require explanations.
do you just add and not summon maximus vs branded?
I side it out going second for belle and called by and yes going first I dump garura get a draw and Maximus so it’s the free tribute body and upstart
@@prophecywiz makes sense, besides the old man i found really interesting that you do not play chaos angel. I personally find it really good especially as the first line(going 2nd) to then followup the standard vv staff
of course it is kinda niche in this deck which is why i do not find it insane that you cut it
@@ka3zar16 so the reason I didn’t play it is diviner is super bad going second into literally anything so I side it out going second and if it resolves to that point u we’re going to win
@@prophecywiz hmm I used to side out the diviners too, when I started playing the deck, but after side sometimes more than the times you would expect to happen, it felt that I had too much non engine and my going second play died to one interaption so I feared cutting too much engine from that point onwards. Does that kinda get fixed since nadir can act as both ?
What about the melodious package? actually i think is stronger than servant package plus 1 omni plus apo plus IP into SP
It plays many bricks and is a way larger engine which takes away from handtraps and still gets slammed way harder by backrow floodgates and dark ruler droplet
@@prophecywiz Yeah truth about the brick and larger engine but if u want to cut the brick but im dissagre about the backrow at the moments its not backrow meta and in the second game you always can cut the engine and add more handtrap/backrow stuff
(currently im playing with that 44 cards and cutting the engine going second for 2nd or third game)
@@nachobojanich9291 Runick stun is going to be really good for nats and every single snake eye deck plays skill drain also 44 cards is 4 to many
@@prophecywiz well im agree probably the next format will be more like boardbreaker the handtraps will not be enough for fiendsmith yubel/snake
@@nachobojanich9291 I side into 22 handtraps Vs snake so I almost always have 3
Cheeheeks
Big dog!!!
The deck is 100000000% playable without blessing just say the card is good bro 😂
I genuinely think the deck is tier 5 without blessings. It’s on the same level as something like genex without blessings
@@prophecywiz it literally performed well without blessing how could you formulate that? Blessing made it recur more and even better for sure but it was tier 2 deck without blessing in a Fire format
@@LilPaycheck I think without it there is absolutely no merit to playing it over fire or many other decks
@@prophecywiz I wouldn’t disagree but that still holds true even after blessings in my opinion, think the main thing that is phasing the deck out is Yubel and how our board can lose to both engine and non engine of Yubel
@@LilPaycheck yubel is decent but can’t play half the handtraps we can
Playing voiceless wrong = playing voiceless at all
Thanks for your incorrect opinion
I play in Texas so, 90% of my matches are against pros, therefore all the theory in this video doesn't work 😂
They play around me before I play lmao
That’s a you thing tho not the deck or the theory. I have multiple ycs tops and have beaten Jesse kotton andres Torres Paulo gozavas christian urena Jeff Jones and countless more. I don’t play or build like and combos to beat scrubs everything I do and play I plan to beat the absolute best with every time
I just seen stop playing voiceless … hahaha
Hey don’t knock it till ya try it
@@prophecywiz ah I don’t this it’s gunna be great coming into the new format
@@deanoxd968 that’s no problem big dog your wrong but entitled to your opinion
@@prophecywiz I don’t think every player is wrong and just you are correct …. It’s tier 2 at best
@@deanoxd968 wanna play money matches? You can know my deck and you will still lose