FMR RNC 1773 Review: Drums, Bass, Guitar, Vocals & Full Mix
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"super nice" mode results in a very good job with the acoustic guitar, so transparent, execellent studio tone!
great no nonsense review. Showing the adjustments in real time per instrument, at a nice pace as to not get bored or not understand what settings were chosen. Great video. Thanks for the informative review
thank you, you‘re welcome!
One of the most transparent compressor I ever heard. Great and natural
This compressor is absolutely convincing. Very good demo.
everytime you hit the "super nice" button, I go "Oh! okay that sounds great"
Great review Zed. You hit all the marks: drums, bass, ac gat, vocals and mix. Great job and thanks.
Very impressive on the mix bus!
Nice review, Finally someone who changes the settings. 👍👍
Funny, I was looking into these a lot a year or so ago. Then I stopped, never spoke or even thought about it again. But then a week ago I bought one, now it's in every suggestion from anything Google. Awesome compressor though ;)
May I ask how you have it connected? I'm not getting any signal. I have two. They worked in the past but I'm not sure which kind of cables I used. It seems common sense.. TRS from the Preamp IN to the RNC, TRS OUT to the DAC's SEND/RECEIVE.
@@arrigalimedia you need to use unbalanced TS cables.
i was going to do a diy build of the ssl bus comp. In the end I decided not to take the effort because after extensive use of my rnc I found out it was (way)better and more to my taste than any ssl plugin on the mix bus. You have to tweak around, get to know it, but the result is THERE ! when mastering with two units for dual mono the results are stellar.
it would have been nice to see more slow attack and fast release settings! good vid tho!
wow it really does fuzz out on bass if the release is lower than 1 or so...
saw a video today Steve Albini says its as good as his $5000 comps...pretty high praise?
Did Albini really say that?! Wow, high praise indeed! Any chance you recall which interview?
@@AndySalinger33 it's in the show us your junk interview
@@ShiningTrapezoid appreciate ya!
@@AndySalinger33 Albini talks about the RNC here: ruclips.net/video/NwkF3-JmSeA/видео.html
@@AndySalinger33 He has it in his rack, and like he said i like to have stuff that i don't have to make excuses for cause of the cost.
Great video. Great explanations, and great examples of various instruments at various settings - thank you!
That beat has got me singing "Billy Jean is not my lover..."
Hehe, right - similar rythm :)
:))))))))))))))
Same here 😂
@@ZedMartyProduction Then you have smelly cat from friends on the acoustic, lol.
Same, except I did the bass line :D
Added the glue in the mix in super nice mode. Impressive. Excellent video!
SHOULD be called "REALLY LOVELY COMPRESSOR"!
Hi, can you make a VS comparison between the klark teknik 1176 and the RNC and what are your impressions?
Is it just my impression or..... does it make sound more warm ?
This sounds incredible
Best review I've seen of this compressor!
Really good review. Thanks!
I have read this little guy is considered one of the best comps under $2000
So this thing is actually pretty great! My boss just gave me one for free!
You have a Really Nice Boss :)
Where do you work, and are they hiring ? :')
Is he hiring?
Superb on female vocals , very warm
With clarity.
However on the full mix , it dampens the sound makes the acoustic guitars sound muffled and muted .
I also use this compressor and use it as a thickener .
Nice song BTW 😊
Thanks for this video. No talking. I like it. 👌
OK. for just $400, this thing did a superb job! Want it right away!
Really? I got mine 8 years ago for $150 just saw it on amazon $175
I noticed changes on drums and full mix but for some reason not so much for guitar and bas and voice alone? maybe the LA version is better?
Great. Very useful demo! Tx
Thank you for this great video ! ;-)
At 4:27 I went "oh, that sounds really nice!"
Oohhhh...
ahahahah the struggle
Thanks for the video
that song was fire
Thanks a lot for the video!
+Morris Kramer you're welcome!
How do you connect it to audio interface?
I can't seem to get audio to pass through mine for tracking; any idea what i could be doing wrong? do i need some sort of special power source/preamp?
Woah this thing is awesome
ANd extremely well priced, in Canada it's still only $269. ART Audio also sell unbalanced to balanced and back adapters for stereo, at $70 CAD. I believe these are unbalanced in /out.
So I have the RNC 1773 and I seem to only get it to work when the threshold is -40 and the ratio Is 25:1 or slightly under. I’ve got the 1773 going through an insert on my Allen & Heath Zed 14 so not sure why it’s the gain reduction is working.
Any tips or ideas as to what could be happening?
Can also be used to aid the audio instead of destroying it with bad settings
When I set a Compressor I Know where to start then slowly turn the knobs until the unit and my imagination come togather. This video is as a Caveman Compresses
it is a video how this compressor sounds with various settings from subtle to excessive/exaggerated adjustments
do you think it woud be usefull between DAC and hifi amp for watcheing movies to avoid high volume in action scenes?
Nice upload
Thks maestro, a boss comp pedal 'll be better for guitar
I have a question and is can I use it in real time recording vocals?
Its possible that the stereo image collapse but when push "super nice" button appears image again?(Sorry about my english)
Super nice mode is super nice.
Good that it is not called Super Bad :P
Can someone please make a video how to connect this to an interface?
Preamp into compressor into audio interface.
To compress daw signal I use the 3/4out of the interface into the compressor, than the comp out back to the 1/2in of interface
Can this be used as a mono compressor for vocals
could you make a comparison video between RNC1773 and dbx 266xs super nice mode??
mine kills all the bass in my vocals, any tips? sounds like a radio
Hi . Ive just bought one of these and wondered how you hook it up to old multitrack? Ive got a Tascam 2488 neo , which has effect sends 1 and 2 which are unbalanced outputs and then it somehow wants to come out of the RNC and into the channel inputs on the Tascam. I have an idea but just want to be sure of the type of leads to get before It order them . If anyone can help that would be great .
They should come back to your returns, or if you want to record only the compression to another channel of you prefer and then you can mix between the comp channel and the original signal as in parallel compression.
But would you consider it to be a "Really Nice" Comoressor??
Nice... not really. They should have named it: Really Lovely and Neat and Warm for your Little heart compressor :P
I've been trying desperately to hook this up to track vocals live in logic pro. I've been using TRS cables into the inputs and outputs of both the compressor and interface. Would you recommend me going out and buying an XLR to TRS converter or just using TS cables? Really confused some feedback would be much appreciated!
+longboardguy2788 Hooking up the RNC to gear other than TRS inserts (like on mixing boards) must be done with a pair of TS (Tip-Sleeve) jacks for each RNC channel. Thus, the full ste- reo hook-up of an RNC must be done with four TS 1/4'' cables. Hooking up the RNC to balanced lines with TRS 1/4'' plugs will not work.
Awesome, thank you! Appreciate it man.
How does that work if you want to patch it into a balanced patchbay?
@@ZedMartyProduction this is straight from the handbook. lol
Can it do a Ross compressor style?
Great review. What's the name of the track that you used to demo a full mix? I really enjoyed it
prufrockrenegade thank you! The song is called „Down by the Salley Gardens“ which is actually a poem by William Butler Yeats. There are quite some songs based on this poem and Maura O’Conell recorded a great version of it in the 90s.
The song in this video is our rendition, basically a cover of Maura‘s version.
When using a condensor mic....what's the best way to power it...to run thru the rnc?
Mic preamp with 48V Phantompower in front of the RNC.
Zed Marty Production -thanx....👌
Zed Marty Production -ever tried behinger ultragain 2200?
Yes, it's not that bad for the money. But even though it is a tube pre amp I could not really hear much saturation. Have a look at the Fredenstein VAS MicPre - great little preamp! If you have a little more money to spend, check out the Warm Audio WA73.
I think I fell in love, again, today...
LOVE THAT SUPER NICE Feature on the final mix!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is it wrong to use it like on EVERY final mix?
Then Limit it, eq, Little reverb for "mastering" and that is it?
Because I am not that good with multiband compressing and real pre-mastering, mastering etc.
I would try to make my song Sound good, then use this on my final mix, as mentioned above.
Do you gentlemen think that it is a good idea?
I am not trying to do that Pop, Dance, trap Music Sound.
I just want a decent final song, that has some Soul in it and not thousand of plugins etc.
Looking for some warm lovely music, in this winterish world :).
I can’t see much reason to ever turn off the Super Nice Mode. It pretty much always sounded better with it on. You get the same amount of compression but with less artifacts. It’s almost like it’s mixing the dry signal back in or something, but I figure if it was parallel compression they would call it that.
I guess for heavy music it has its use without the Super Nice mode. Think vocals or snare drum in a death metal track for example ! :)
Drums sounded cooler with it off.
can anyone explain which cables should I use, I've hooked this up with both stereo and mono cables and still haven't been able to make it work, don't really understand the whole tip=in, ring=out stuff, what does that mean. Please really want to use this, I would really appreciate some help here, thanks!
You can use it in 3 ways (first 2 are for insert channels)
1. with a standard Stereo TRS cable (TRS: Tip-Ring-Sleve) on each input channel as an insert (e.g. on a mixing console): www.thomann.de/gb/the_sssnake_spp2030.htm
2. with a Y- Insert Cable (one connector for the input and one for the output) like this: www.thomann.de/gb/the_sssnake_ypp2010.htm
3. with 4 unbalanced Patch cables (Mono) to use it with a Preamp/Audio Interface. Something like this: www.thomann.de/gb/cordial_ccfi_09_pp.htm
OK great, and with the 4 unbalanced patch cables, they can be hooked up in any direction, I mean 'cuz both ends of the cable are exactly the same right?, it's the whole tip=in, ring=out stuff that confuses me. And the same with the two other types of cable right? Thanks for getting back to me
yes right, the 4 unbalanced cables can be connected in any direction. FMR did special thing with the tip=in, ring=out option: if you want to use the compressor as an insert on a mixing console you simply can use just one stereo cable hooked up to each input of the RNC. It serves both, input and output. So you don't need another cable for the outputs. A stereo cable is also called "Balanced cable" or "TRS cable" where T=Tip and R=Ring. FMR uses the Tip as Input and Ring as Output.
Rnc is nice compressor vocals chain 6x6 interface black lion audio stereo pultec warm audio mix bus VITALIZER MK3 recording intruments the new AEA DIRECT BOX. ACTIVE. 🎉
for me it works same using all balanced or unbalenced cables ....why is that or should i notice a difrence in the sound??
it all sounds same and both work fine all balanced or all unbalance on both in and outs
why they both work ?
link to this song?
"Falling into pieces"
Does it works with instrument level?? Like a bass?
No, only line level.
I got a little mixer alesis multimix 8, without trs insert and a scarlett 2i2. Can I do like this?
Mic - alesis mixer - 1/4 ts cable in the mixer main out - RNC - 1/4 ts cable - Focusrite 2i2
Thanks!
Yes should work!
Thanks a lot! All the best
This or the Fredenstien V.A.S. for my blues project?
The RNC is more transparent and you can use it in stereo or mono. Depends what you need.
W.B. Yeats ftw!
Is this “Super Nice” similar to Elysia Xpressor’s GRL function?
Not really! The GRL is more like a second threshold controller for the compressor. While the ‘reg- ular’ threshold controller tells the compressor when to start working, the GRL controller tells it when to compress no further.
The „Super Nice“ mode of the RNC is for near invisible compression. This mode cascades three stereo compressors in series to reduce compression artifacts. Even with high gain reduction you can‘t hear the typical „pumping“ effect.
Zed Marty Production Great! Thx for the info!
Hi man can you pls tell me how to hook this into my studio (cables) , im confused , i have a gap pre 73 mk3 preamp and a focusrite interface , also witch one you like more , dbx comp or fmr rnc ? i
saw you got both , psl help , regards.
If you want to use it for mixing: RNC outputs -> focusrite inputs, RNC inputs -> focusrite outputs. Standard 1/4“ cables - use it as an hardware insert in your DAW. I like the RNC a little more than the dbx.
Zed Marty Production tnks so mutch for youre answer , and for tracking with the gap pre 73 what you think , i got this conclution , since the gap has an insert jack so i can plug a balanced cable to the left in of temhe rnc to send/return function roght? Or you think would be better with patch unbalsnced cables ?
Yes, that‘s right. In that case you‘ll only need one TRS cable plugged into the left input.
Zed Marty Production perfect , tnks so mutch again man , regards
How much compression can be applied before sound gets muddied....?
With the super nice mode quite a lot. Up to 6-8 db of gain reduction.
Hi I'm new with using compressors and just bought this. I am interested in recording male pop (high) vocals. I have a Grace M101 preamp , a Cloudlifter, a Focusrite Clarett 2Pre. My mic is the Shure SM7b. How do I connect the compressor in the vocal chain? And can anyone suggest some compressor settings to begin with?
Honestly the manual has great info.
mic-cloudlifter-preamp-preamp output-Compressor-Compressor output to input of recording input. I would set the Compressor to 4-1 then start the release and attack on fast and learn how compression changes the sound. Spend an hour with it trying every setting. You will learn Compression and know it for life.
Who Made Who
Would this be a good unit to have for a home VOICE-OVER set up with condenser mic ???
That's exactly what I use it for! Yes, it is very clean and has no artifacts for what you and I do. Now, if you get crazy with the controls, it can produce some less desirable sounds, but I don't do that. It's not a character compressor, it is known for it's transparency. I have had mine for at least ten years, maybe more.
Why not just get a software compressor for the price?
You'll need a preamp before RNC
Compared to ART?
Better then ART
Am I able to hook this right up to a scarlet 18i8? Without having to by an external pre amp? I can just have it using the interfaces pre amps right?
Use the Software to send the output of the preamps to the outputs you want to use then return the output of the compressor to unused inputs.
So frustrating watching you crush all the transients and set the release way too short on drum example.
I know, I wish it would have been used with a more methodical approach.
finally outboard compressor that sounds like a plugin
What does this even mean ?
@@Charlyfromthenuclearcity it means that finally there's a outboard compressor that sounds like a plugin
@@fullalbums5675 Well, plug-ins have been trying to emulate hardware for two decades now, so I don't get it. I mean you could tell a plug-in sounds like the original hardware, but saying a hardware compressor sounds like a plug-in doesn't really make sense.
Actually nothing like a plugin.
Lack of upvote for not showing the whole back for ins/outs.
Boots & cats,
& Boots & cats,
& Boots & cats,
& Boots & cats &.......,
(😂do this with the billy jean flow 🤣)
That's a bus compressor... I don't know why they wanted to be so agressive on this demo
Who says that‘s only a bus compressor? You can use it on any source.
Junk
NOT a good demo.
Why is that ?
NOT a useful comment