That's the math using emotions instead of numbers and factual rules, right ...? (I'm pretty sure she never ever has even thought about what he tries to explain for a whole minute)
Girl Math.. lol.. thats an oxymoron if i ever heard one.. ..girls dont math, they just feel their way around in the dark and whatever makes them feel good, they cling to like a leech..
@@Jane-bd3knThat procedure dates back as it stands to around 1850. Nothing about that procedure except anesthesia is modern. The only way modern medicine would be about avoiding consequences entirely is if all they did is prevent mortality. Last I checked most surgeries are done for quality of life, boner pills exist, and so does birth control. Modern medicine is about quality of life, not preventing the consequences of life.
@@Jane-bd3kn Dude... You can't call somebody a genius as an insult while fucking your own sentence up. Punctuation matters, especially in this instance.
@saintmalaclypse3217 The fact you think “legal” or “illegal” holds some kind of grand significance or makes some kind of great difference, just shows your not too bright. And your nitpicking shows immaturatity
@@jonnybarron1518 The host's usual rationale is the Bible. The Bible makes the distinction between "kill" and "murder". God allows, even requires, killing, but forbids murder. The Christian argument goes out the window when abortion is legal. See how I did that by explaining what I meant, rather than chucking insults? Give it a try. My stance on abortion is simple: I'm personally opposed to it, and if anyone asks my opinion, that's it. But the Government should have NOTHING to say about abortion or any other healthcare issue.
@@SleeCee Serial killer, yes. Serial murderer? Not if it's legal. That's not my opinion, that's the simple definition of the word. People who run around yelling "abortion is murder" sound just like people who say "meat is murder". You lose the argument before it ever starts if you can't even use the correct terminology. Abortion KILLS babies, that's a fact. But the law decides what is "murder".
Crazy how you usually get just one level deep in a discussion with a woman and they're already confused. The amount of shit they just don't think about, but always have an opinion on, is absolutely astounding...
@@thatarmwrestler I think you missed the point. He was simply exposing the double standard. If a man wants his baby a woman can claim "my body my choice" and murder the child anyway. He gets no say. But if the role is reversed and she wants the child but he doesn't, he still has to pay for it. In reality murder of the child or abandonment are both wicked but this was just to expose the double standard, hence her fumbling for an answer as she saw where he was going.
NOT funny, but a woman can abandon a baby at a Fire -station, hospital or Police station...No strings attached, and is congratulated for making the "right" choice for her future. But, if a man does it, is Child Abandonment.
Yep, pretty much. I've seen baby boxes in S. Korea and Japan, where women can put their babies there and walk away if they don't want them. Absolutely terrible and really sad for the unwanted babies.
Agreed, Chapelle spit TRUTH that happened to be funny because of the delivery and the irony aaaaaand the originality of the message - which THIS is not
@@tenebrousjones4897 nice bra.in.w@shing, kid. This Tuber does not make any sense. You cannot force a woman, or a man, to be responsible for a child, if they do not want to. So, if the woman wants the child, and the man doesn't, she has to raise the child. This Tuber just gives examples of extremes. Life does not work like that.
He did do an incredibly terrible job of painting the picture. He just kept leading her along instead of painting an entire picture, with all the rules, and then asking the question You can make almost anyone say almost anything to look bad in that way
@@josiahjones3705 I disagree. The picture was clear. He said that if a woman decides to have the baby regardless of the father's wishes. Then talks about the father deciding he doesn't want to be responsible for the child. This would most certainly mean regardless of what the mother wants. Only people who do not believe in fairness and equality would assume otherwise.
@breedlofam you didn't understand what I said at all. He painted a clear picture, but led her along the way the whole time. He would paint some of it, then ask her opinion. She would answer and he would say, "um actually, you're wrong because of this control that I didn't mention before" It's a very classic and very easy way to manipulate the things a person is ACTUALLY saying. I've been doing it since I was like 14 years old. It's not a complicated concept, it looks very innocent, but it is very manipulative and directed
@@josiahjones3705 you could literally watch the full video. There was nothing like what you mentioned. No manipulation. He clearly expressed the conditions. Just because you're a sociopath doesn't mean everyone else is.
"The right to murder a child" that's what the pro choice rights are all about, and also "I don't want to be responsible for my choice(s)." Him saying "if you have the right to murder a child, I at least ought to have the right to abandon it" was profound.
These guys ALWAYS defend men and their actions. Both parties are at fault. If a man can abandon his child cuz he doesn’t want it, why should a woman keep the child? These are the same people who talk shit on single mothers for needing child support because a man couldn’t step up but also, women get guilt tripped for wanting an abortion. Men get to run away, and it’s shrugged off. Women either are stuck with a child and get shit on, or run away and also get shit on. But only one gets told “ya should’ve kept your legs closed”.
@@fiercemermaid3038 well yeah.. women are h the ones liable…men can’t have kids, that’s why it is said to women. That’s fine, have the child if you choose to, but don’t ask for child support if you didn’t give the man a choice.
Encouraged? Honestly give any proof of this ridiculous claim. "Men can litterally go to jail/prison for abandoning it" by this I assume you mean not paying child support - and if so that is half correct. ANY parent can go to jail for not paying child support, not just men
@@serakkTorvprobably when medical establishments do a bunch of tests on pregnant women and then follow up with “so now you can make a choice” hinting at their support for the woman to abort the kid…..but who knows it’s a mystery!
@@serakkTorv There's a reason McDonlads wants their employees to say "Would you like fries with that" and it's literally encouraging the customer to get fries. I mean, good grief, at least try here...
This reminds me of a recent video where a "Pro Choice" woman seemed to be against the concept of a young woman "choosing" to keep a child. She stopped just short of saying they should be forced to get an abortion at a young age.
@@TinyTim711 Its false comparison. Serious people who advocate for abortion do not believe they are killing a person in the same way you can kill your mother. So what he says in the clip is also a strawman, at least of the arguments that are taken seriously.
I agree with you joey. I personally have a child with a man who has never taken responsibility even when we were together. She is almost 9 and I have never come after him to collect a dime. He isn't interested in being a part of her life, his loss and we will keep it at that. She is amazing and I have made some really good decisions in life so I haven't had to rely on anyone but myself. By the grace of God. I am blessed and my daughter was an absolute blessing.
@@momingallday - So', he wasn't responsable when you've been with him ... but at the end you got pregnant because of him and not because of both of you? Right?! 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
that is what liberalism is across the board. this is what is causing ao many problems in our society. liberalism and progressivism is all about eliminating standards and responsibility. i used to be pretty libertarian, but this past decade has been proof that libertarianism allows liberalism and progressivism to go unchecked, which just pushes society to mass societal degradation and complete lack of morality and rationality
accountability for what? Engaging in a natural human behavior? We're fortunate to live in a time where we can choose when to have children without sacrificing intimate relationships.
@@zanido9073 yes thats the point. there are condoms, birth control, and abortion. but women want men to agree or be on the hook with whatever they decide
@@zanido9073 - Murder is a naturally occurring human behavior?? Intriguing. Most intriguing is the fact that folks with this degenerative thinking always bring up the ‘intimate relationship’ health while glazing over the fact that murder of something so innocent is, in fact, psychopathic.
Encourage a woman to get an abortion that does not want one is coercion, and it’s now illegal in my state. Also, she’s clearly not pro choice, she’s just pro abortion, it’s not the same thing.
If she said it with more empathy or gentler words, would it be less evil. If you’re going to murder your baby for your own convenience, at least have the mental clarity to acknowledge that fact
Wasn't coldness it's practicality and reality, their are far to many situations to count where a child never should have been brought into, and the idea of adoption is laughable seeing how theirs far to many children in the system now cause no1 wants to take them
@@kareempusey5032No it is absolute coldness and indifference to the child created. Women have a natural maternal instinct that our society is erasing through abortion and the “right” to have sex without consequences. It is a total lie told to both men and women that this is somehow good for them.
Well according to feminist it's not a baby, so he can punch her in the stomach killing the cells and nothing happens to him. Which is ridiculous but it's their logic
@@jamesbrockett6045 She may personally believe that. However the legal system will still call it murder if it happens during any other crime. Yet they call it health care when she pays someone to do it not hiring a hitman.
I was 22 when my son was conceived. I was terrified because I was completely unstable and immature. As time went on, I grew and matured. I got sober, got a degree, and became a role model father and citizen. I'm glad I chose not to give up, my son is perfect and an absolute Blessing from God Himself. Think about this if you are in a similar situation to my younger self. Don't give up
I think people are brought up today taught limitations instead of potential. Everyone has an “i cant” attitude towards shit they could definitely do if they tried. Oh and props on hanging in there for your kid, they may not value that yet but one day they will. Or already do lol, either way happy belated fathers day
@ness1278 Yeah, 100% People always have an excuse for something. I don't know how many times I've tried to give advice with multiple options and every singe time they have an excuse for why "I can't or that won't work." Did it with my co worker once. It was something so simple as his only mode of transportation needed to be worked on but he wouldn't do it because it would leave him without a vehicle. Come to find out, after a long discussion and some digging, his dad had an "extra vehicle" in good working order for EXACTLY that type of situation. I asked him why he wouldn't just call and ask him to use it and AGAIN, he gave some excuse that I can't quite remember. He finally called after I pushed a little and SURE AS S**T his dad let him use the vehicle lol. I was like "SEE!!! That wasn't so hard now was it?! Why did you purposely make it that difficult?!"
Great men are forged in the fire of responsibility. Fatherhood is a big test of responsibility. I remember looking and the realization of reality hitting me; that I must protect, nurture and then teach this creature to eventually become a functional member of society, and more importantly a man. The love I felt was more intense than I’ve ever felt for any physical being. The responsibility was world melting. I was pretty well off and prepared but the man I am today is much better than the one that had a baby on the way. Almost wish I had children sooner.
It’s not the murder of innocence, it’s men trying to take control of women’s bodies. Don’t get it twisted. If a woman gets pregnant it’s both the man and woman’s fault for not using contraception. If you can’t take care of it, you shouldn’t have to be forced to have the child then raise it to your detriment, it’s as simple as that
Don’t see how. The answer is yes, a man should be able to abandon a child but the law doesn’t allow it. In some cases you can contract out of it so technically her answer is probably legally correct.
@@1234EggNogg Do you realize how much that would screw up society? The real point here is that neither should be okay. People need to understand that there are risks to sleeping with people outside of marriage and without protection!
@@sgracem2863 how would it “screw up society”? There are already dead beat dads that have abandoned their kids except for a legal financial obligation, even then some never pay it. Your argument seems to be that every dad if given the option would abandon their kid, which is ridiculous. Just like not every woman has an abortion just because they can. The answer is still yes.
@@byJessCh So how does this work when the Man wants to keep the baby but the woman wants to abort it but says the man has zero say in what she does with the baby that he helped create because her body her choice? Yes it does take two to make a baby so it should take two to decide on whether to keep or abort the baby but I guess this just makes too much sense.
@@Lugare2011 It would make perfect sense in any other case, but in this case, childbearing is exclusively a woman's role. You cannot force a woman to go through pregnancy and the agonizing pain of childbirth, and you also cannot force a woman to abort the child and intervene in her body in an non-natural way. Both occurrences are traumatizing if the woman does not wish for it. So you, as a man, must have in consideration that once you inseminate inside a woman your choice was made. What happens after is the woman's choice.
I agree…it’s an absolute double standard. She can force child support, but he can’t force child birth. I’m speaking as a 45 year old man without children…reluctantly.
@@gordgasperski1514 sure…we remain biologically fertile, but that doesn’t mean that we can attract a younger fertile mate. Like me, even though I am still fertile at 45 and very financially capable…a recent car accident has made me permanently reliant upon a wheelchair…so, largely unattractive to a younger fertile woman.
@@100krister a well you see he is not saying you should abandon the child he’s saying that if a woman can kill the child you can abandon it he as far as I know thinks that both should be illegal
@@alastairolson3226 He says the woman should have kept her legs cloesed, but doesn't that apply for the guy? Should'nt he also not have sex if he doesn't want a child? Or is it only the womans responsibility? If you as a man have sex, you also take the risk of beeing a father.
I'm not even against abortion and I agree... The thing that gets me is how they try to call it "pro-choice" instead of "pro-abortion", if you really support it and it's just a clump of cells then why the hell are you so hesitant to call it for what it is, abortion. Just say "I support abortion" instead of trying to claim it's about choice when you already have the choice to either avoid having sex, use condoms, morning after pill, or literally any of the millions of other BC options... They don't even want to use the word abortion because even they know to some degree that it's not something to be taken lightly, and it is in fact a potential life you're ending.
@@WhackBytch256It’s still wrong to abort a child, but her flippant attitude tells you that she would haphazardly get pregnant and treat an abortion like birth control.
@@Vincent09291 no, if you dont understand that abandoning a child and aborting is a false equivalence, you are failing at logic. Then the ''pro-life'' argument is the only one failing logic because the idea that aborting is equivalent to murder fails with logic as the argument can only be founded on religion, which is not founded on logic. Once you understand that abortion is the same as the fetus never being conceived, there is no debate here. The only question left is what happens when inevitably the women chose what happens with the fetus? Well, men and women are not equal, I thought right wingers and especially religious people were familiar with this concept? well, shit is life, the fetus grows in the women's womb, no amount of crying will change that.
@@TheLoucM please help me understand the definition of false equivalence in this case then, i'm not disagreeing with you, im just honestly trying to understand how the pro-abortion position in this clip is logical
except there nothing fair about a pregnancy. When we men can get pregnant hand deal with the consequences of being pregnant and the risk that come with it then it will be fair. The moral of the story is this. If you don't want children keep your &^$# in your pants. If you do want children then vet the women you have sex with. Better yet build a relationship and marriage then have children. You want to cry because you don't have equal rights. To F bad suck up Nancy. Your choice comes before sex not after.
I usually like this guy but he could be more misguided at this point in.. BOTH sides fulfilled their responsibility in creating the child and are therefore responsible for the life of that child. Period. After ejaculation where man had a choice, the rest of the voice is with the woman.
Sorry for your situation but chances are if both your bio parents went MIA they wouldn't have been good parents anyways and you may have been better off.
Though I don't know the struggles of what you had to go through as a result of being abandoned, it may have been for the better or it may have been worst. I hope it was for the better. But there are those people who don't want kids but feel like they have to take care of them. They don't treat them right and having a child grow up under that kind of environment could cause significant damage to their mind and cause even worse pain.
if you listen to his long form discussions you'll realize this guy doesn't actually advocate for child abandonment. He uses it as an analogy to showcase the hypocrisy and degeneracy of modern feminist movement. Pro choice has never been about choice, it's been about control and avoidance of consequence.
I am NOT pro choice, abortion should NOT be legal... But when he said "If you have the right to murder a child, I should at least have the right to abandon it."... SO messed up, but SO true. Why is it that women can run and get an abortion without even giving the father an option to raise it? Men have no say whether their baby is murdered or not. That's so messed up. Women say "my body my choice", but that's BS. The truth is that no women would ever willingly put HERSELF on child support, so they will always opt to murder it instead. Abortion is designed for women to be able to be completely selfish, and even be able to weaponize it against men.
@@edinacloud5968 "It's a child!" "It's a baby!" "It's a boy!" "It's a girl!" "It's a frog!" "It's a group of cells" "It's superman!" Using the word "it" doesn't hold any weight on whether a person considers something as life, or considers it to be a human being. It's simply a part of English grammar.
@@emmanueloshaddai3259 I think he didn't get your point . You are merely pointing out her political ideology and you're not in any way shape or form defending her or providing excuses on her behalf .
@@zanido9073If a man can not decide or even have a say in whether his baby is born or not, then that baby is not being considered as his child. It’s only the mother’s and as such any decision she makes is completely hers, as well any consequences that come with said decision.
@@zanido9073 In addition, there has been an emphasis on a fetus not qualifying as a “baby” or “child”. With that logic, any father that waives responsibility within the fetal stage or before bares no moral or legal obligation, or at least he shouldn’t.
@@zanido9073 Abortion does create a burden on society, called the hospital bills. If stupid people would stop making children because they're too lazy to use condoms, this wouldn't be an issue.
I've been saying this for years! I don't agree with abortion but if women say "it's my body, it's my choice" then, by their logic, it's 100% her responsibility to use birth control, pay for an abortion or pay for the child. The man has no say them he has no responsibility.
Responsibility and control go hand in hand. If you control something, you are responsible for it. You cannot be responsible for something you have no control over.
Hope you have the same mentality towards killing insects, cause they are a way more advanced beings, compared to a very big chunk of aborted fetuses, depending on how many weeks in you abort it. There should be a week limit towards abortion. You dont just get a full blown baby at the moment of conception. Prob around 10-12 weeks, since after week 12 the baby is usually fully Developed and just needs time to grow after that.
@@-RxW-I mean you’re taking away the life of a human being no matter how many weeks it is 🤷🏽♀️ The issue in particular is the lack of empathy /compassion that girl has. She wouldn’t of acted so cold if so,Elmer she loved wanted to keep a baby
No. This is a toxic take. Mental illness and crime run rampant due in part or wholly to bringing children into toxic situations where either the man or woman or both are not prepared to raise a healthy child. Ideally, yes, but no.
Yeah. That’s great. But you lost that argument 40+ years ago. Now we are here and the conversation must be what it has to be to clink away at the armor of idiots.
Because if they give up the child to the father, then the women need to pay child support to the father. But that is exactly what they don't want. They don't want the responsibility, not even the financial responsibility.
Teaching Instant Gratification must have replaced Sex Education because if people remembered how babies are formed and used protection, CHOICES WOULDN’T BE NECESSARY.
Sex education was always just child grooming for promiscuity. It never taught the morality behind monogamy, or stuck to basic biology. It never taught abstinence or responsibility. It was always about how best to have promiscuous sex more.
Noooooope. Females make the decision...if a guy is so convincing that she decides to don't without protection, that's how the cookie is going to crumble. Education or lack thereof means nothing, people are going to do what they want, consequences be damned.
@@Crai6Mac it’s basically the same thing as my 8 year old when he says “well he did it so why can’t I” adults take responsibility even when others won’t. Also we need more accountability in this country not less, so it’s going in the wrong direction, we can’t get people to take more responsibility by lowering the bar. Yes the woman need to be part of that also, but we’re not fixing anything by taking accountability away from the man. We also have to remember that children are involved here, and they’re the only innocent party in this equation, you made the choice to have some fun, now you have to grow up and be a man about it and do what’s best for that child. Consequences are supposed to hurt. We use to expect men to marry the girl if he got her pregnant, and there was some shame involved, maybe we should bring some of that back into our society and get young people to think before they act.
Right! If she’s so smart, then how did she not see where it was going? It’s because she doesn’t want to. She chooses to ignore the reality because it makes her feel better. And that’s totally ok… if it doesn’t involve other humans.
@@Yay-hovah they just don’t care about others the way they say they do. They’re not open to dialogue for the sake of being informed. Their intent is to sway the other person. That’s not a conversation as they try to make it seem
Only because we are bringing unwanted children into the world who are abused misused and miserable their entire childhoods until they carry on the tradition of abuse, misuse, and misery to everyone in their lives. I was adopted into a loving family immediately. I'm still COMPLETELY fucked up for not having grown up with my actual family. I knew I wasn't like any of my "loving family" growing up. I didn't think like them, act like them, feel things they felt. I met my little biological half-sister when I was 18, she was 11. I immediately had a familial connection with her. We spent a little bit of time together in her late teens, I moved far away as she turned 20, flew back for her marriage...there is nobody on earth i feel closer to than someone I've spent less than 500 hours of my life around. We can look at each other and know what the other is thinking. Adoption is fucked up, and living with parents who cannot raise a child the way a child should be raise, with love and care....is worse.
It's not a question of smarts here, it's a question of pride. How do you tell someone that they're on the wrong side of history if they make a point to care that they're on the right side of it.
How is it we live in a society where it is so easy to legitimize the murder of innocent people, merely, because their existence poses an inconvenience to someone else?
@@Shushkin Yes both are horrible scenarios but I think the only way to make any change is to play the "but its equality card" to get people to stop killing their kids. That's why I added the sunset provision to my statement if women will stop killing children in the womb we will still hold fathers accountable.
Seems reasonable on the surface. I imagine so many women that would choose to keep the baby would change their minds immediately if they knew there was no financial assistance. Or if government aid could be denied in addition to this if the father is alive.
I've seen 3 births and all three i witnessed them come out grey blue color. Until they clear the airways and the child takes it's first breath. It is not alive. I don't believe it is alive until it takes it's first breath. That's when you see their color begin to change to red hue. It is a corpse until it breathes. Any movement that it makes while in the womb is likely just the nerves or coming from the mother since it is connected to her. Until that cord is severed it is not yet an individual entity. It is a part of the mother just like an arm or leg. If it were alive inside then it would not be cold and grey and stiff. It isn't even moving when it comes out until that first breath. You can see the blood circulating and warmth = life. Prior to that there isn't any breath or blood circulating. This i witnessed 3 times in sure other men witnessed the same thing. Unless there is some data that actually proves that it is alive and conscious or aware. Just because we have witnessed a foot pushing the belly does not prove to me that it is the child who is kicking. It is assumed as far as I'm concerned. It could very well just be the mother who is actually controlling those movements. Since we've heard before that whatever the mother feels the child feels whatever you know thoughts whatever you know what I'm saying like it makes more sense that it's probably the mother causing the fetus to make those movements or you know kicking out whatever I mean usually and I do remember me in that situation we were both focused on the belly hoping for a kick and then it happened so how do I know that it wasn't her you know controlling those movements if we ourselves through meditation can control certain parts of our body and I know that's true because I've done it I've actually been able to control my body temperature from one arm to the other I can stop the blood flow on one arm and it gets cold just through meditation and and focus I've done it more than once so I prove that to be possible and I'm sure anybody can do it so unless there's some kind of proof without doubt some data or evidence of something that says the baby's doing that on its own and it's not the mother who's making that movement of the fetus since it is connected to her it's just another part of her you know if we can control our heartbeat especially through the breathing. Course this is a old debate that still happens still goes on but I'm just more using my own observation and as well as some information that I've come across while reading up on this stuff but I'm not a doctor so I can't say that I know for sure I'm just saying that as far as I'm concerned there's no information that says that is a fact without doubt it's just something that is assumed because we've heard it you know we've heard this being said so many times and I guess it's just been accepted as some kind of fact but I don't believe that it is a fact and just by looking at all the information that we've heard over time repetitively you know that the child's connected to the mother and whatever the mother is going through a feeling or doing and all that so is that fetus so it makes sense to me that the mother still controlling that fetus when it moves around in there sometimes some others don't get a lot of movement in the belly from the baby you know a lot of times this day you don't get any movement at all they don't feel anything so and then there's other women that experience a lot of movement in there so that could always just be the mom you know unless there's something going on between those two different fetuses you know one of them is more active than the other I don't see how or why but of course you know they would have to take studies and analyze and jot down all that data and then come to a conclusion based off the data but conclusions theories none of those are factual truth till we know for sure and how do we find out if it's actually alive and sentient and not just another part of the mother like a limb like another arm that can move or be moved things to our nervous system and the muscles he could just be twitching or jerking you know because the nerves are probably still forming and developing or maybe the mother's stress or anxiety or her thoughts you know I do believe that with her thoughts she can probably make the baby move or kick or you know flex I don't know😅
@@edgarv7879 So what you're saying is that the thing that has been growing, with a heartbeat, functioning brain activity, can feel pain, etc, for nine months is dead until it emerges from the womb and takes a breath? Got it. Makes perfect sense.
I am pro-life, and I believe we should bring back accountability for both parties. I married a woman who told me she never wanted children. Then she changed her mind for the wrong reason (attention seeking), we had 2 sons, and she left because it was too much work to raise them. I fought for primary custody and the home. They are adults now.
boohoo, you did what you had to as a single parent. single moms do it all the time when their baby daddy leaves, you're not at all any type of special just bc you're a man. want a cookie, champ? get a grip and do your thankless job quietly.
Women love attention, and fitting in. One of the greatest ways they do that, is by getting pregnant, having a child, and all the bragging rights and social accolades that comes with it. So many Women have children for attention and peer pressure.
People like you are so full of crap! In 2020, homicide (not Abortion) was the second-highest leading cause of death for youth ages 1 to 17. Like you really give a SHIT about ProLife when you support MURDER!
That was absolutely heartbreaking. My heart shattered for him and his baby. How anyone could move forward with such a decision with that sound of his screams ringing in their ears is beyond wicked.
You don't believe anything, you KNOW the FACT... its literally a life, a human.. It's beyond insane this is a never ending debate..all because fanatical, naive whores or just extreme fanatical womens "rights" people... Who have no idea.. taking people's money, to make a doctor waste his time killing your kid for you IS NOT A RIGHT, never could be.
@@badermohammed1428 I AM a Parent! Of a 20 & 15 yr olds. While I never thought I could have an Abortion, Ive ALWAYS thought that was between the Woman and her Doctor. And while women want equality that goes BOTH ways! Just as being a Birther does NOT make you the better parent over the Donor. Also while in many ways its not fair and their is MORE responsibility and pressure on the Female, unfortunately THATS Biology!! That is why it is MORE important for a Woman to take EVERY precaution against Pregnancy if she is NOT prepared to have to make a decision to Keep, Give up for Adoption , Give Parental rights to the other Parent, Abort, or Prepare for an Absent Father. It really IS that simple. And yes the Donor is Half responsible, statistically and rationally we ALL know that NEVER equal. It ALWAYS falls on the Birther and MOSTLY us, the Taxpayers. But that another Branch from the tree of Life. There have been cases of the Donor wanting to take over Parental care after birth of Child, the Man is NEVER given a Choice. Is THAT fair? In the end the ONLY person NOT given a choice is the Human, be it in or out of the Womb. And I say this will ALL my Heart and Soul… I would rather a Baby be Aborted than to know and LIVE with the knowledge they are Unloved, Unwanted, Used and Abused.
@@FloyminJust trying to follow your logic here. What is the double standard in the pro-life stance? Anti-abortion means neither parent gets to dip out. Brian isn't making a serious suggestion here, just attempting to point out the pro-abortion double standard. What am I missing?
@@wandarincon8464 Then I guess BOTH SIDES are choosing to leave men out of the debate, because I never hear pro-lifers talk about holding men responsible for raising that life. But I DO hear about women who make that DIFFICULT decision WITH their PARTNER!
@Floymin 😂😂😂 stfu... you sound stup_d... it's not spoken on because all society understands that he will still be held responsible financially. Did you miss that part... been sleeping for decades now or something? Yet a woman can abandon a child at an orphanage and walk away with no consequences. If a woman can walk into an abortion clinic and get an abortion without consent from the father then the father should be able to walk away with no consequences in the same respect. Or is it OK for women but nit men? Is it only OK when the child will change the woman's life but nit when it derails the fathers future. Stop while you're ahead... it sounds retar_Ed.
Im not religious. Im not even very sympathetic. Hearing a woman say "get rid of it" disgusted me to a point I refuse to define her as a woman. I don't know why I feel this way but this is just crazy to me hearing that about a baby at any stage of growth.
Absolutely. I was atheist for a long time until I learned to separate religion from Jesus cuz humans are flawed. In my view now, it's because God put certain moral standards on everyone's heart. We know what's right and wrong in our deepest soul. When we reject this and continue in sin we get desensitized to it so our natural revulsion to certain things becomes numb over time. This makes it easier to continue in sin.
mrJosh in my opinion you dont have to be religious to not believe its ok to murder the innocent.... just for the record and to be clear i am religious but this isnt a religious issue in my opinion ....
@@jamieb3485 What baffles me now is how people protest for their “right” to abortion. I can’t get over this video and how it made me feel. Even days later I’m thinking about how this chick explained it. You know there’s many, many women who now feel this is okay to say/do and that’s unnerving. I just can’t imagine the thoughts in these people’s minds. Most of us have had our fair share of gore videos(thanks internet) but I’ve seen all the worst ones and never had a single emotion discomfort me. This chick managed to pull so much to the surface with one paragraph. I don’t have kids either so it’s really confusing me why it hurts me to just hear it. Then X had to go and show me the guy who was at a hearing and explained how they pull out the 2nd terms in chunks. They squeeze the skull and look for white runoff(the brain) to make sure they properly grabbed it. This is our fuckin society right now and people are proud of it.
Interesting thing is, the baby isn't her body, the baby is separate from the mother, a separate being, but who is just in her body while they grow because the womb is supposed to be the safest place in the world for them until they can live out in the world using their lungs to breathe (sometimes there's medical issues of course and they need help breathing outside of the womb).
@@Inhisarms333 Except its not true at all. Other wise you could just remove the baby all together before it was ready to be born. A unborn child is dependent on the mother for it to get nutrients and what not so it can grow. To do that it has to be attached to the mother to some degree. While I'm against abortion in general. I don't believe any one has the right to dictate to some one else on what they can and cant do with their body. You can't just strip a women right to her body and tell her she has to give birth to that child because at which point you have reduced her down to nothing more then incubator. Unborn children have a right to life but they are not guaranteed life. The right of the mother should be prioritized over the rights of the unborn child. As the Unborn child can not survive with out the mother. Further more I say if people really care about ending abortion then stop focusing on abortion and address the problems that lead women to having abortion in the first place.
It's also the man body at risk as well. the average 9-5 guy will struggle greatly financially to pay support for a child he doesn't want. He may need to work multiple jobs, be constantly stressed because of financial hardships. Overworking and stress will greatly impact the mana health. His body,his choice as well. The abortion debate is just another way to show it's not about equality, but rather equity. Being viewed as the same but still receiving deferential treatment and holding onto double standards.
@@bryansmith8646 it’s the beast. It consumes both the men and women. The policies we allowed in which consume us. Invite a demon in, and he’ll try to destroy you if you force him out.
That would require these humans to have impulse control, forethought and an idea about her hormone cycle as well emotional stability that many of these men and mostly women don't seem to have.
He is right from a liberal's perspective. It really doesn't address the right to life arguments, but it addresses the sexism in the woman's right to choose without there being a man's right to choose.
You don't seem to understand why child support is a thing. It has nothing to do with parental rights. It has to do with the fact that children growing up in poverty is bad for society. In other words, if the parent isn't paying child support, society is paying instead.
@zanido9073 LMFAO. Yeah, you have no clue. Average child support being paid out is around 700$ a month. Yeah, that's keeping poverty levels low. Never EVER has child support been for "keeping poverty levels low," but hey, you're the expert, right? It's just so the father is "assisting" with the child's needs. This is also a joke because 90% of women use it as another paycheck.
@@zanido9073sounds good but not everyone can actually afford child support. And if the man doesn't pay it,he usually goes to jail. Which usually winds up making him lose his job. Thus repeating the cycle
Yeah, real equality is not what they want.
It never was
@@iwishtfsvegetaiscanon9077
And never WILL be
@@DREADEYE_KNIGHT Because it was always a supremacy movement for women.
A woman's definition of equality is them at the tip top, and men are at the bottom.
@@DREADEYE_KNIGHT Or not as long as we keep pandering to them
She's still doing girl math.
AMAZING! SMFH
That's the math using emotions instead of numbers and factual rules, right ...?
(I'm pretty sure she never ever has even thought about what he tries to explain for a whole minute)
I don’t even call it girl math. I just say American math/ logic.
Girl Math.. lol.. thats an oxymoron if i ever heard one.. ..girls dont math, they just feel their way around in the dark and whatever makes them feel good, they cling to like a leech..
Girl math is = nothing is my fault
She's not pro choice. She is anti consequence.
The entirety of modern medicine is about anti consequence genius.
@@Jane-bd3knThat procedure dates back as it stands to around 1850. Nothing about that procedure except anesthesia is modern. The only way modern medicine would be about avoiding consequences entirely is if all they did is prevent mortality. Last I checked most surgeries are done for quality of life, boner pills exist, and so does birth control. Modern medicine is about quality of life, not preventing the consequences of life.
That’s a great way to view it
@@Jane-bd3kn Dude... You can't call somebody a genius as an insult while fucking your own sentence up. Punctuation matters, especially in this instance.
I love this comment
"If you have the right to murder the child, I AT LEAST ought to have the right to abandon it." Perfection!
Imperfection and dishonest. "Murder" is an UNLAWFUL killing. Where abortion is LEGAL it cannot be "murder" by any definition.
@@saintmalaclypse321710 + abortions is serial killer-esque
thats not a serial killer or murderer?
😮
@saintmalaclypse3217 The fact you think “legal” or “illegal” holds some kind of grand significance or makes some kind of great difference, just shows your not too bright. And your nitpicking shows immaturatity
@@jonnybarron1518 The host's usual rationale is the Bible. The Bible makes the distinction between "kill" and "murder". God allows, even requires, killing, but forbids murder.
The Christian argument goes out the window when abortion is legal.
See how I did that by explaining what I meant, rather than chucking insults? Give it a try.
My stance on abortion is simple: I'm personally opposed to it, and if anyone asks my opinion, that's it. But the Government should have NOTHING to say about abortion or any other healthcare issue.
@@SleeCee Serial killer, yes. Serial murderer? Not if it's legal. That's not my opinion, that's the simple definition of the word.
People who run around yelling "abortion is murder" sound just like people who say "meat is murder". You lose the argument before it ever starts if you can't even use the correct terminology.
Abortion KILLS babies, that's a fact. But the law decides what is "murder".
Ain't no standards like double standards
To be honest double standards go both ways dude.
@@CobwebsRemovedin most situations sure. Where is the double standard on men’s side in having a baby?
@@jeffsmith3132 I was talking about in general.
Is there any other?!
Crazy how you usually get just one level deep in a discussion with a woman and they're already confused. The amount of shit they just don't think about, but always have an opinion on, is absolutely astounding...
"If you have the right to murder it!, I should have the right to abandoned it!" Powerfully agreed statement
It is a David Chapelle quote.
White people literally trying to steal from Chappelle is wild
So glad people aren't being selfish these days one side want to kill their baby the other side is talking about abandoning their baby. Sad times.
@@thatarmwrestler I think you missed the point. He was simply exposing the double standard. If a man wants his baby a woman can claim "my body my choice" and murder the child anyway. He gets no say. But if the role is reversed and she wants the child but he doesn't, he still has to pay for it.
In reality murder of the child or abandonment are both wicked but this was just to expose the double standard, hence her fumbling for an answer as she saw where he was going.
@@TommyNitronot to mention a woman can give birth and sign away her rights and not be financially responsible for her child, unlike a man
NOT funny, but a woman can abandon a baby at a Fire -station, hospital or Police station...No strings attached, and is congratulated for making the "right" choice for her future.
But, if a man does it, is Child Abandonment.
Preach.
Yep, pretty much. I've seen baby boxes in S. Korea and Japan, where women can put their babies there and walk away if they don't want them. Absolutely terrible and really sad for the unwanted babies.
It’s still child abandonment…
Eve was also thrown out of the Garden of Eden. Don't forget that
Sorry, where is this sentiment coming from? It seems like you’re making this shit up in your head to validate your stupid ahh argument 😂
“And if I’M wrong, then perhaps WE’RE wrong.” -Dave Chapelle.
That’s too much equality for her to comprehend
Society doesn't comprehend
I can't comprehend anyone trying to force anyone else to be a parent. It's insane from every angle.
No lies !! 🤦♂️😅
"I can't comprehend people trying not to let babies get murdered" fixed your comment@@Cuntroller
That was such a valid point!!!!!
Dave Chappell
The best comedy is truth repackaged for a punchline
best true skit EVER!!!!!
I use that line aswell
The goat
It’s my money, my choice. 😂😂
Men have been saying this long before Dave Chappelle said it in a punchline.
It's never about equality, it's about receiving preferential treatment
And it's the men giving it to them.
@@postblitz Well, more like sociatal peer pressure. Most commonly found in white people.
Men have to give them real equality. None of this preferential treatment.
100%
Exactly. They want selective equality.
He just did the joke from Dave Chappelle
It’s not a joke, it’s a fight to save lives.
This discussion has been brought up well before Dave did that joke.
Agreed, Chapelle spit TRUTH that happened to be funny because of the delivery and the irony aaaaaand the originality of the message - which THIS is not
@@tenebrousjones4897 nice bra.in.w@shing, kid. This Tuber does not make any sense. You cannot force a woman, or a man, to be responsible for a child, if they do not want to. So, if the woman wants the child, and the man doesn't, she has to raise the child. This Tuber just gives examples of extremes. Life does not work like that.
My money, my choice.
The look of confusion that the woman wouldn’t have to agree is priceless.
He did do an incredibly terrible job of painting the picture. He just kept leading her along instead of painting an entire picture, with all the rules, and then asking the question
You can make almost anyone say almost anything to look bad in that way
@@josiahjones3705 I disagree. The picture was clear. He said that if a woman decides to have the baby regardless of the father's wishes. Then talks about the father deciding he doesn't want to be responsible for the child. This would most certainly mean regardless of what the mother wants. Only people who do not believe in fairness and equality would assume otherwise.
@breedlofam you didn't understand what I said at all. He painted a clear picture, but led her along the way the whole time. He would paint some of it, then ask her opinion. She would answer and he would say, "um actually, you're wrong because of this control that I didn't mention before"
It's a very classic and very easy way to manipulate the things a person is ACTUALLY saying. I've been doing it since I was like 14 years old. It's not a complicated concept, it looks very innocent, but it is very manipulative and directed
@@josiahjones3705 you could literally watch the full video. There was nothing like what you mentioned. No manipulation. He clearly expressed the conditions. Just because you're a sociopath doesn't mean everyone else is.
@@josiahjones3705 No I understood where he was going from the start. No one thinks from the male's perspective is the problem.
The look of shock when he told her that the man doesn't need to have her consent to abandon the child was hilarious.
Actually, it made me sick... It should be a given, why the hell should that have to be explained to her.
@@tonyzuco6144 Because the idea that they could ensnare a guy is comforting to them and the alternative - that they couldn't - is terrifying.
Imagine the even bigger look of shock if they were pregnant but got told they need the father's permission to abort the baby
" if you have the RIGHT to murder a child, i should at least have the right to abandon it". That hit hard.
Dave Chappelle quote
It's from Dave Chapelle "Sticks and Stones"
Dayum
Hundreds of years it's been called fetus untill birth now people want to argue and call it murder it's a child
“My money, my choice.”
"The right to murder a child" that's what the pro choice rights are all about, and also "I don't want to be responsible for my choice(s)." Him saying "if you have the right to murder a child, I at least ought to have the right to abandon it" was profound.
It was extremely accurate, though.
It's Dave Chappelle quote
These guys ALWAYS defend men and their actions. Both parties are at fault. If a man can abandon his child cuz he doesn’t want it, why should a woman keep the child? These are the same people who talk shit on single mothers for needing child support because a man couldn’t step up but also, women get guilt tripped for wanting an abortion. Men get to run away, and it’s shrugged off. Women either are stuck with a child and get shit on, or run away and also get shit on. But only one gets told “ya should’ve kept your legs closed”.
@@fiercemermaid3038 well yeah.. women are h the ones liable…men can’t have kids, that’s why it is said to women. That’s fine, have the child if you choose to, but don’t ask for child support if you didn’t give the man a choice.
@@fiercemermaid3038as a woman, you can run away too. You or the father do not have the claim the baby. You are making more excuses for murdering kids
Exactly my argument also. Women are allowed, in fact encouraged, to kill the baby but men can literally go to jail/prison for abandoning it.
Yet the woman can drop it off at the fire department and she's a heroine 😢
Encouraged? Honestly give any proof of this ridiculous claim. "Men can litterally go to jail/prison for abandoning it" by this I assume you mean not paying child support - and if so that is half correct. ANY parent can go to jail for not paying child support, not just men
@@serakkTorvprobably when medical establishments do a bunch of tests on pregnant women and then follow up with “so now you can make a choice” hinting at their support for the woman to abort the kid…..but who knows it’s a mystery!
@@EmmaxoOCE That to you is encouragement?? Guess when you are asked if you 'want fries with that' you can never say no ...?
@@serakkTorv There's a reason McDonlads wants their employees to say "Would you like fries with that" and it's literally encouraging the customer to get fries. I mean, good grief, at least try here...
ZERO moral compass.
The way she just says “get rid of it” so callously is disturbing.
dew it
Yes. That's horrible.
Very disgusting
This reminds me of a recent video where a "Pro Choice" woman seemed to be against the concept of a young woman "choosing" to keep a child. She stopped just short of saying they should be forced to get an abortion at a young age.
I'm happy to hear I wasn't the only one that heard that little chuckle
Lack of Moral Responsibility
He missed the perfect opportunity to drive home to point that men dont have a say if their baby is aborted.
This is also what i hate. If I want to have my child and raise it, I have no choice. She can just flush it.
That's what he was arguing
And they complain when they feel "men" are trying to take their choice away.
stop just watching clips you ninny
That's the entire point of what he's saying
This argument destroys all “equality” defense. You can’t say you’re pro-choice but then say “Men have NO say.”
If it weren’t for double standards, they’d have no standards.
claiming "double standards" tends to be total fallacy
@@jackhannon4322 That's not true. Double standards is exactly what's going on here and that's not a logical fallacy
@jackhannon4322 do you even know what a fallacy is?
@@TinyTim711 Its false comparison. Serious people who advocate for abortion do not believe they are killing a person in the same way you can kill your mother. So what he says in the clip is also a strawman, at least of the arguments that are taken seriously.
@@jordanfreeman8526 Its a false comparison and a strawman argument.
Her body, Her choice, HER FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY
She is not Aborting her own body though is she 😢😢😢
@@yvonnewalton2484 true - own your choices too. The woman "kills" her offspring by choice.
I agree with you joey. I personally have a child with a man who has never taken responsibility even when we were together. She is almost 9 and I have never come after him to collect a dime. He isn't interested in being a part of her life, his loss and we will keep it at that. She is amazing and I have made some really good decisions in life so I haven't had to rely on anyone but myself. By the grace of God. I am blessed and my daughter was an absolute blessing.
@@momingallday - So', he wasn't responsable when you've been with him ... but at the end you got pregnant because of him and not because of both of you? Right?! 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
@@yvonnewalton2484 If it's not her BODY then she is killing someone else body and there is a legal term for that...
"If you have the right to murder a child, I should at least have the right to abandon it."
Bars!
That's the dumbest statement I have ever heard in my life! The guy has to be the biggest moron on the face of the planet....
Bingo!
that's from a comedian's stand up
Dave’s the goat
"Get rid of it" is the phrase she chooses. Evil people.
Yeah, that bothers me too!
She would have fit into Hitlers Germany.
Calling a child an it, is the ultimate evil.
@@ericp5948 abortions are only good in select situations. Ie the mom be be taken if she delivers is one such example. But yes in general it's wrong.
@@Triaxx2calling zygotes and gamets a child is stupid.
It’s not about equality - it’s about no accountability.
that is what liberalism is across the board. this is what is causing ao many problems in our society. liberalism and progressivism is all about eliminating standards and responsibility. i used to be pretty libertarian, but this past decade has been proof that libertarianism allows liberalism and progressivism to go unchecked, which just pushes society to mass societal degradation and complete lack of morality and rationality
accountability for what? Engaging in a natural human behavior?
We're fortunate to live in a time where we can choose when to have children without sacrificing intimate relationships.
@@zanido9073 yes thats the point. there are condoms, birth control, and abortion. but women want men to agree or be on the hook with whatever they decide
@@zanido9073 - Murder is a naturally occurring human behavior??
Intriguing.
Most intriguing is the fact that folks with this degenerative thinking always bring up the ‘intimate relationship’ health while glazing over the fact that murder of something so innocent is, in fact, psychopathic.
Encourage a woman to get an abortion that does not want one is coercion, and it’s now illegal in my state. Also, she’s clearly not pro choice, she’s just pro abortion, it’s not the same thing.
She's beating around the bush and acting like she doesn't understand... because she knows it exposes her hypocrisy
The coldness with which she says “get rid of it” Is frightening. Our society is doomed with women like this.
If she said it with more empathy or gentler words, would it be less evil. If you’re going to murder your baby for your own convenience, at least have the mental clarity to acknowledge that fact
@@WhackBytch256 Uh, yes, at least it wouldn't be thoughtless sociopathy
Wasn't coldness it's practicality and reality, their are far to many situations to count where a child never should have been brought into, and the idea of adoption is laughable seeing how theirs far to many children in the system now cause no1 wants to take them
@@WhackBytch256There’s no doubt about her mental clarity….that’s the frightening part. It would make me feel better if she at least paused to think.
@@kareempusey5032No it is absolute coldness and indifference to the child created. Women have a natural maternal instinct that our society is erasing through abortion and the “right” to have sex without consequences. It is a total lie told to both men and women that this is somehow good for them.
Well according to feminist it's not a baby, so he can punch her in the stomach killing the cells and nothing happens to him. Which is ridiculous but it's their logic
Except he will be charged for killing the kid even if she schedule an abortion for the next day.
@@evozero905this particular woman doesn’t believe a man should be charged with murder if he were to assault a woman and kill her unborn baby.
@@jamesbrockett6045 She may personally believe that. However the legal system will still call it murder if it happens during any other crime. Yet they call it health care when she pays someone to do it not hiring a hitman.
that would be fetal homicide, and illegal in most states...
Feminist logic says its only a baby if she wants it.
I’ve been saying this for over a decade and it’s always “I should have thought of it first”
I was 22 when my son was conceived. I was terrified because I was completely unstable and immature. As time went on, I grew and matured. I got sober, got a degree, and became a role model father and citizen. I'm glad I chose not to give up, my son is perfect and an absolute Blessing from God Himself.
Think about this if you are in a similar situation to my younger self. Don't give up
I think people are brought up today taught limitations instead of potential. Everyone has an “i cant” attitude towards shit they could definitely do if they tried.
Oh and props on hanging in there for your kid, they may not value that yet but one day they will. Or already do lol, either way happy belated fathers day
@@ness1278 thank you!
@ness1278
Yeah, 100%
People always have an excuse for something. I don't know how many times I've tried to give advice with multiple options and every singe time they have an excuse for why "I can't or that won't work."
Did it with my co worker once. It was something so simple as his only mode of transportation needed to be worked on but he wouldn't do it because it would leave him without a vehicle. Come to find out, after a long discussion and some digging, his dad had an "extra vehicle" in good working order for EXACTLY that type of situation. I asked him why he wouldn't just call and ask him to use it and AGAIN, he gave some excuse that I can't quite remember.
He finally called after I pushed a little and SURE AS S**T his dad let him use the vehicle lol. I was like "SEE!!! That wasn't so hard now was it?! Why did you purposely make it that difficult?!"
That wasn't the point.
Great men are forged in the fire of responsibility. Fatherhood is a big test of responsibility. I remember looking and the realization of reality hitting me; that I must protect, nurture and then teach this creature to eventually become a functional member of society, and more importantly a man. The love I felt was more intense than I’ve ever felt for any physical being. The responsibility was world melting. I was pretty well off and prepared but the man I am today is much better than the one that had a baby on the way. Almost wish I had children sooner.
The look on her face when presented with actual LOGIC: Priceless.
the murder of innocence to avoid responsibility is never a choice.
It’s not the murder of innocence, it’s men trying to take control of women’s bodies. Don’t get it twisted. If a woman gets pregnant it’s both the man and woman’s fault for not using contraception. If you can’t take care of it, you shouldn’t have to be forced to have the child then raise it to your detriment, it’s as simple as that
Abortion is not murder.
@@Harri_Saariexcept it totally is
@@mcguinnessberriman6820 No it's not.
@@Harri_Saari then what is it?
Trouble is, governments would hate this. As they now have to pick up the tab.
I've pissed off and stumped quite a few with this logic 🤷♂️
Don’t see how. The answer is yes, a man should be able to abandon a child but the law doesn’t allow it. In some cases you can contract out of it so technically her answer is probably legally correct.
@@1234EggNogg Do you realize how much that would screw up society? The real point here is that neither should be okay. People need to understand that there are risks to sleeping with people outside of marriage and without protection!
@@sgracem2863 how would it “screw up society”? There are already dead beat dads that have abandoned their kids except for a legal financial obligation, even then some never pay it. Your argument seems to be that every dad if given the option would abandon their kid, which is ridiculous. Just like not every woman has an abortion just because they can. The answer is still yes.
Forcing him to work for 18 years to support a child he doesn't want? His body, his choice. Right?
No. Take care of the kids you create
@@FEEKAP
Maybe she should have KEPT HER LEGS CLOSED?!?!
@@claytonrobertson4999It takes two to create a child. The man also needs to consider the consequences of the act for baby making.
@@byJessCh So how does this work when the Man wants to keep the baby but the woman wants to abort it but says the man has zero say in what she does with the baby that he helped create because her body her choice?
Yes it does take two to make a baby so it should take two to decide on whether to keep or abort the baby but I guess this just makes too much sense.
@@Lugare2011 It would make perfect sense in any other case, but in this case, childbearing is exclusively a woman's role. You cannot force a woman to go through pregnancy and the agonizing pain of childbirth, and you also cannot force a woman to abort the child and intervene in her body in an non-natural way. Both occurrences are traumatizing if the woman does not wish for it.
So you, as a man, must have in consideration that once you inseminate inside a woman your choice was made. What happens after is the woman's choice.
I agree…it’s an absolute double standard. She can force child support, but he can’t force child birth. I’m speaking as a 45 year old man without children…reluctantly.
Never to late for guys. We stay fertile
@@gordgasperski1514 sure…we remain biologically fertile, but that doesn’t mean that we can attract a younger fertile mate. Like me, even though I am still fertile at 45 and very financially capable…a recent car accident has made me permanently reliant upon a wheelchair…so, largely unattractive to a younger fertile woman.
So sorry man! That’s rough!
@@nathanielapgar4284 there is never a guarantee of life. People of all ages die every day.
@@nathanielapgar4284”Charlie Chaplin had babies when he was 73.”
“Yeah, but he was too old to pick 'em up.”
he's absolutely right. as a woman I wonder why so many women think he's wrong?!
Agreed!
He gets no choice in the abortion decision; however, she can have him on the hook for child support for at least 18 years!
As a man I can tell he is wrong because the child is much better of having two persons supporting it.
Because then they will have to be accountable.
@@100krister a well you see he is not saying you should abandon the child he’s saying that if a woman can kill the child you can abandon it he as far as I know thinks that both should be illegal
@@alastairolson3226 He says the woman should have kept her legs cloesed, but doesn't that apply for the guy? Should'nt he also not have sex if he doesn't want a child? Or is it only the womans responsibility? If you as a man have sex, you also take the risk of beeing a father.
You should encourage her to get rid of it! The way she said it with a chuckle is disgusting
I'm not even against abortion and I agree... The thing that gets me is how they try to call it "pro-choice" instead of "pro-abortion", if you really support it and it's just a clump of cells then why the hell are you so hesitant to call it for what it is, abortion.
Just say "I support abortion" instead of trying to claim it's about choice when you already have the choice to either avoid having sex, use condoms, morning after pill, or literally any of the millions of other BC options... They don't even want to use the word abortion because even they know to some degree that it's not something to be taken lightly, and it is in fact a potential life you're ending.
If she was killed could the perp. say "it was a post partum abortion"?
Is there some way she could say it that would be appealing to you?
@@WhackBytch256 🤦♂️ she could of just said 🅰️🅱️🅾️rt it but instead she chose to say “get rid of it”..
@@WhackBytch256It’s still wrong to abort a child, but her flippant attitude tells you that she would haphazardly get pregnant and treat an abortion like birth control.
Logical consistency is hard when your brain runs on emotion and ideology.
Thats probably why pro lifer positions crumble with any logic applied.
@@Tripticify achtuallly…
@@Tripticify pro choice positions crumble even more with logic, this clip literally just proved it
@@Vincent09291 no, if you dont understand that abandoning a child and aborting is a false equivalence, you are failing at logic. Then the ''pro-life'' argument is the only one failing logic because the idea that aborting is equivalent to murder fails with logic as the argument can only be founded on religion, which is not founded on logic. Once you understand that abortion is the same as the fetus never being conceived, there is no debate here.
The only question left is what happens when inevitably the women chose what happens with the fetus? Well, men and women are not equal, I thought right wingers and especially religious people were familiar with this concept? well, shit is life, the fetus grows in the women's womb, no amount of crying will change that.
@@TheLoucM please help me understand the definition of false equivalence in this case then, i'm not disagreeing with you, im just honestly trying to understand how the pro-abortion position in this clip is logical
They sure don't like logic and fairness very much when it doesn't work in their favor.
except there nothing fair about a pregnancy. When we men can get pregnant hand deal with the consequences of being pregnant and the risk that come with it then it will be fair.
The moral of the story is this. If you don't want children keep your &^$# in your pants. If you do want children then vet the women you have sex with. Better yet build a relationship and marriage then have children.
You want to cry because you don't have equal rights. To F bad suck up Nancy. Your choice comes before sex not after.
I usually like this guy but he could be more misguided at this point in.. BOTH sides fulfilled their responsibility in creating the child and are therefore responsible for the life of that child. Period. After ejaculation where man had a choice, the rest of the voice is with the woman.
@@kashiaroundtheworld the woman Always has the choice, the man will hardly ever get a chance to have a choice.
Sooooo, she’s not “pro choice” then
ya..
They are pro “whatever benefits me most in the situation”, not pro choice.
I hate when Brian gives into the left and uses their language.
It's called being pro abortion, not pro choice.
As a man that grew up without a father, and a mom that gave me up at 14. I think ppl should raise their fucking kids. Not murder or abandon them
Sorry for your situation but chances are if both your bio parents went MIA they wouldn't have been good parents anyways and you may have been better off.
Yes
Preach it
Though I don't know the struggles of what you had to go through as a result of being abandoned, it may have been for the better or it may have been worst. I hope it was for the better. But there are those people who don't want kids but feel like they have to take care of them. They don't treat them right and having a child grow up under that kind of environment could cause significant damage to their mind and cause even worse pain.
if you listen to his long form discussions you'll realize this guy doesn't actually advocate for child abandonment. He uses it as an analogy to showcase the hypocrisy and degeneracy of modern feminist movement. Pro choice has never been about choice, it's been about control and avoidance of consequence.
I am NOT pro choice, abortion should NOT be legal... But when he said "If you have the right to murder a child, I should at least have the right to abandon it."... SO messed up, but SO true. Why is it that women can run and get an abortion without even giving the father an option to raise it? Men have no say whether their baby is murdered or not. That's so messed up. Women say "my body my choice", but that's BS. The truth is that no women would ever willingly put HERSELF on child support, so they will always opt to murder it instead. Abortion is designed for women to be able to be completely selfish, and even be able to weaponize it against men.
BEEN SAYING THIS FOR 20 YEARS. THEY DON'T CARE.
Calling a baby it. Says it all.
@@edinacloud5968it’s not a baby moron. It’s a fetus. Learn how words work.
@@edinacloud5968wait... so are you referring to the girl? Cuz Brian, called the baby an "it" 4 times here, where the girl did it only once.
I was actually. Especially in the context of I'd get rid of it.
@@edinacloud5968 "It's a child!" "It's a baby!" "It's a boy!" "It's a girl!" "It's a frog!" "It's a group of cells" "It's superman!" Using the word "it" doesn't hold any weight on whether a person considers something as life, or considers it to be a human being. It's simply a part of English grammar.
"Just get rid of it" like it is an old sock or something .
She claims to be pro choice
@@emmanueloshaddai3259Well yeah, pro choice is pro killing the unborn baby.
@@emmanueloshaddai3259 So?
That makes it okay to refer to human being as "it" with no more regard than an old dirty sock?
No.
@@mrfixitusa6165 what’s with the friendly fire. I’m pointing out her hypocrisy
@@emmanueloshaddai3259 I think he didn't get your point .
You are merely pointing out her political ideology and you're not in any way shape or form defending her or providing excuses on her behalf .
I don't think people should have the right to do either, but if women have the legal right to opt out of parenthood, men should too.
The situations for men and women are not analogous. Abortion does not create a burden on society. Refusing to support your child does.
@@zanido9073If a man can not decide or even have a say in whether his baby is born or not, then that baby is not being considered as his child. It’s only the mother’s and as such any decision she makes is completely hers, as well any consequences that come with said decision.
@@zanido9073 In addition, there has been an emphasis on a fetus not qualifying as a “baby” or “child”. With that logic, any father that waives responsibility within the fetal stage or before bares no moral or legal obligation, or at least he shouldn’t.
@@zanido9073 Abortion does create a burden on society, called the hospital bills. If stupid people would stop making children because they're too lazy to use condoms, this wouldn't be an issue.
The court says no because that would be equality 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
I've been saying this for years! I don't agree with abortion but if women say "it's my body, it's my choice" then, by their logic, it's 100% her responsibility to use birth control, pay for an abortion or pay for the child. The man has no say them he has no responsibility.
Responsibility and control go hand in hand. If you control something, you are responsible for it. You cannot be responsible for something you have no control over.
@@WhackBytch256
This is true! Unfortunately that reality has been forgotten in many things, not just infanticide. 😢
Unless you have a y cromozone 😅
“ I encourage you to get rid of it”….” absolutely sickening.😢
How she says it like she's comparing it to pulling a weed or doing pest control or something...disgusting.
Hope you have the same mentality towards killing insects, cause they are a way more advanced beings, compared to a very big chunk of aborted fetuses, depending on how many weeks in you abort it. There should be a week limit towards abortion. You dont just get a full blown baby at the moment of conception. Prob around 10-12 weeks, since after week 12 the baby is usually fully Developed and just needs time to grow after that.
@@-RxW- if you're not ready for a child wear protection or practice abstain from sex, very easy
@@fluttercoat3899 condoms don't work 100% of the time. Actually, they're only 87% effective.
@@-RxW-I mean you’re taking away the life of a human being no matter how many weeks it is 🤷🏽♀️ The issue in particular is the lack of empathy /compassion that girl has. She wouldn’t of acted so cold if so,Elmer she loved wanted to keep a baby
You can force a man to become a father...
But you can't force a woman to become a mother...
Sounds equal to me, only one side has a choice.
Both should be forced to take the responsebility for theire choice. But i think there should be more help for young parents
How about neither party has the right to murder or abandon the child. How about that?
Shhhhhhhhh you're making too much sense, it's almost like you're following a religious example
Stop. You're polluting the world with sanity and consequences
No. This is a toxic take. Mental illness and crime run rampant due in part or wholly to bringing children into toxic situations where either the man or woman or both are not prepared to raise a healthy child.
Ideally, yes, but no.
Well, that's the logical conclusion to what he said, but the danger is that today's society doesn't seem to know what logic is.
Yeah. That’s great.
But you lost that argument 40+ years ago.
Now we are here and the conversation must be what it has to be to clink away at the armor of idiots.
I do think it's messed up that women want the rights to abortion but don't seem to want give up rights to child support.
Because if they give up the child to the father, then the women need to pay child support to the father. But that is exactly what they don't want. They don't want the responsibility, not even the financial responsibility.
I taught my son's one thing... Condoms break and pills fail. So don't have sex unless you're ready to take responsibility for the results.
Yup, dont play adult games if you can't handle adult prizes lol
Pull out game
Yep but Plan B does work...check mate.
@@Bearme73 only if you use it within 48 hours. And its only 80%-ish effective.
Nice in theory but not always reality.
If only their own parents had shared the same thought.
DOH!
Saying that means you support abortion genius
Oh My, Have the Tables turned
Teaching Instant Gratification must have replaced Sex Education because if people remembered how babies are formed and used protection, CHOICES WOULDN’T BE NECESSARY.
Sex education was always just child grooming for promiscuity. It never taught the morality behind monogamy, or stuck to basic biology. It never taught abstinence or responsibility. It was always about how best to have promiscuous sex more.
Noooooope.
Females make the decision...if a guy is so convincing that she decides to don't without protection, that's how the cookie is going to crumble.
Education or lack thereof means nothing, people are going to do what they want, consequences be damned.
When I was in sex Ed I was told to refrain from sex until you're ready to be a parent as condoms aren't as reliable as we are told
@@UpsidedownC We were scared with STD education. that effectively killed my desire to be promiscuous.
@@commoguru that too and now everyone swapping bodily fluids like they're pokemon trading cards
That last line was a line by Dave Chapelle in one of his comedy specials. Good line.
No, it’s not a good line, it’s a child’s argument, only children think this way.
@@jlkkauffman7942 how so
@@Crai6Mac it’s basically the same thing as my 8 year old when he says “well he did it so why can’t I” adults take responsibility even when others won’t. Also we need more accountability in this country not less, so it’s going in the wrong direction, we can’t get people to take more responsibility by lowering the bar. Yes the woman need to be part of that also, but we’re not fixing anything by taking accountability away from the man. We also have to remember that children are involved here, and they’re the only innocent party in this equation, you made the choice to have some fun, now you have to grow up and be a man about it and do what’s best for that child. Consequences are supposed to hurt. We use to expect men to marry the girl if he got her pregnant, and there was some shame involved, maybe we should bring some of that back into our society and get young people to think before they act.
Damn I was lookin for this reference!
Literally too dumb to see where an argument goes...
Right! If she’s so smart, then how did she not see where it was going?
It’s because she doesn’t want to. She chooses to ignore the reality because it makes her feel better. And that’s totally ok… if it doesn’t involve other humans.
@@mattneville6601Oh but it does involve another human, they just convince themselves otherwise.
@@Yay-hovah they just don’t care about others the way they say they do. They’re not open to dialogue for the sake of being informed. Their intent is to sway the other person. That’s not a conversation as they try to make it seem
Fantastic way to point out the double-standard, but not the correct way to even the playing field in practice.
Tell us what is...
"...and if you don't like that then maybe we're both wrong."
This woman is extremely immature
So are the whole staff and "talent" of this "broadcast"
“He should encourage her to get rid of it.”
😔. This world is so gross.
Only because we are bringing unwanted children into the world who are abused misused and miserable their entire childhoods until they carry on the tradition of abuse, misuse, and misery to everyone in their lives.
I was adopted into a loving family immediately. I'm still COMPLETELY fucked up for not having grown up with my actual family. I knew I wasn't like any of my "loving family" growing up. I didn't think like them, act like them, feel things they felt. I met my little biological half-sister when I was 18, she was 11. I immediately had a familial connection with her. We spent a little bit of time together in her late teens, I moved far away as she turned 20, flew back for her marriage...there is nobody on earth i feel closer to than someone I've spent less than 500 hours of my life around. We can look at each other and know what the other is thinking. Adoption is fucked up, and living with parents who cannot raise a child the way a child should be raise, with love and care....is worse.
@@lanmandragoran8337 so u think ur little sister should have been aborted?
@@lanmandragoran8337so in conclusion murd*ring a child is better than adoption right?
So you'd rather be dead. Is that the statement?
I agree, that statement was .. vile. She has no heart.
Good point.
I wish people would stop calling it "pro-choice", it's pro-abortion
😮 your right. Perhaps it makes them feel better by nominally diverting the real issue.
The AP style guide has determined what language mainstreamers are to use. But I agree with you.
Great argument, but she’s not smart enough to follow your logic.
He has a terrible argument though.
That is a valid point, not a terrible argument. Something for everyone to think about.
It's not a question of smarts here, it's a question of pride.
How do you tell someone that they're on the wrong side of history if they make a point to care that they're on the right side of it.
@@zanido9073Care to elaborate as to what makes it a terrible argument?
They never are
I love this idea… if she has the right to knock off the child i should at least have the right to opt out of it… 🤯
Exactly!!!! I’m glad someone finally brought this up!!!
Shocking that this needs to be said, but NO ONE should murder or abandon a child!
How is it we live in a society where it is so easy to legitimize the murder of innocent people, merely, because their existence poses an inconvenience to someone else?
I think you mean to the woman.
This is what the fall of a nation looks like. We're in it. People will look back at these times and go damn, how did they not see it coming
yes legalize male financial and responsibility abortion. Give it a sunset provision for if maternal abortion is made illegal.
No. Neither should be allowed.
@@Shushkin Yes both are horrible scenarios but I think the only way to make any change is to play the "but its equality card" to get people to stop killing their kids. That's why I added the sunset provision to my statement if women will stop killing children in the womb we will still hold fathers accountable.
Seems reasonable on the surface. I imagine so many women that would choose to keep the baby would change their minds immediately if they knew there was no financial assistance. Or if government aid could be denied in addition to this if the father is alive.
“To get RID of IT?” 😡
They don't like it when you call it murder. Even though it's totally murder.
I've seen 3 births and all three i witnessed them come out grey blue color. Until they clear the airways and the child takes it's first breath. It is not alive. I don't believe it is alive until it takes it's first breath. That's when you see their color begin to change to red hue. It is a corpse until it breathes. Any movement that it makes while in the womb is likely just the nerves or coming from the mother since it is connected to her. Until that cord is severed it is not yet an individual entity. It is a part of the mother just like an arm or leg. If it were alive inside then it would not be cold and grey and stiff. It isn't even moving when it comes out until that first breath. You can see the blood circulating and warmth = life. Prior to that there isn't any breath or blood circulating. This i witnessed 3 times in sure other men witnessed the same thing. Unless there is some data that actually proves that it is alive and conscious or aware. Just because we have witnessed a foot pushing the belly does not prove to me that it is the child who is kicking. It is assumed as far as I'm concerned. It could very well just be the mother who is actually controlling those movements. Since we've heard before that whatever the mother feels the child feels whatever you know thoughts whatever you know what I'm saying like it makes more sense that it's probably the mother causing the fetus to make those movements or you know kicking out whatever I mean usually and I do remember me in that situation we were both focused on the belly hoping for a kick and then it happened so how do I know that it wasn't her you know controlling those movements if we ourselves through meditation can control certain parts of our body and I know that's true because I've done it I've actually been able to control my body temperature from one arm to the other I can stop the blood flow on one arm and it gets cold just through meditation and and focus I've done it more than once so I prove that to be possible and I'm sure anybody can do it so unless there's some kind of proof without doubt some data or evidence of something that says the baby's doing that on its own and it's not the mother who's making that movement of the fetus since it is connected to her it's just another part of her you know if we can control our heartbeat especially through the breathing. Course this is a old debate that still happens still goes on but I'm just more using my own observation and as well as some information that I've come across while reading up on this stuff but I'm not a doctor so I can't say that I know for sure I'm just saying that as far as I'm concerned there's no information that says that is a fact without doubt it's just something that is assumed because we've heard it you know we've heard this being said so many times and I guess it's just been accepted as some kind of fact but I don't believe that it is a fact and just by looking at all the information that we've heard over time repetitively you know that the child's connected to the mother and whatever the mother is going through a feeling or doing and all that so is that fetus so it makes sense to me that the mother still controlling that fetus when it moves around in there sometimes some others don't get a lot of movement in the belly from the baby you know a lot of times this day you don't get any movement at all they don't feel anything so and then there's other women that experience a lot of movement in there so that could always just be the mom you know unless there's something going on between those two different fetuses you know one of them is more active than the other I don't see how or why but of course you know they would have to take studies and analyze and jot down all that data and then come to a conclusion based off the data but conclusions theories none of those are factual truth till we know for sure and how do we find out if it's actually alive and sentient and not just another part of the mother like a limb like another arm that can move or be moved things to our nervous system and the muscles he could just be twitching or jerking you know because the nerves are probably still forming and developing or maybe the mother's stress or anxiety or her thoughts you know I do believe that with her thoughts she can probably make the baby move or kick or you know flex I don't know😅
@@edgarv7879 jfc, dude no one is going to read all that garbage
@@edgarv7879 So what you're saying is that the thing that has been growing, with a heartbeat, functioning brain activity, can feel pain, etc, for nine months is dead until it emerges from the womb and takes a breath? Got it. Makes perfect sense.
I am pro-life, and I believe we should bring back accountability for both parties.
I married a woman who told me she never wanted children. Then she changed her mind for the wrong reason (attention seeking), we had 2 sons, and she left because it was too much work to raise them. I fought for primary custody and the home. They are adults now.
Did you get custody?
boohoo, you did what you had to as a single parent. single moms do it all the time when their baby daddy leaves, you're not at all any type of special just bc you're a man. want a cookie, champ? get a grip and do your thankless job quietly.
Women love attention, and fitting in. One of the greatest ways they do that, is by getting pregnant, having a child, and all the bragging rights and social accolades that comes with it. So many Women have children for attention and peer pressure.
People like you are so full of crap! In 2020, homicide (not Abortion) was the second-highest leading cause of death for youth ages 1 to 17. Like you really give a SHIT about ProLife when you support MURDER!
Great job dad ! Never walk out on your kidz !
The young man's screams still haunt me. Abby, don't kill our baby, he said
That was absolutely heartbreaking. My heart shattered for him and his baby. How anyone could move forward with such a decision with that sound of his screams ringing in their ears is beyond wicked.
I remember that. All the men trying to comfort him, telling him he's a good man - very sad
Where is this from?
@@Mrcool179 a previous video clip showing a young lady going into abortion clinic and the young father begging her not to - sad 😔
@@JackieSkellington wasn't there also women telling him it's her choice
THANK YOU!!!!!
I've been saying this for years! Men do not deserve financial servitude because of a faulty product and someone else's decision.
I’m a staunch pro-life girl.
I believe Abortion is murder and it should never be legal.
I can sign on to this logic.
You don't believe anything, you KNOW the FACT... its literally a life, a human..
It's beyond insane this is a never ending debate..all because fanatical, naive whores or just extreme fanatical womens "rights" people...
Who have no idea.. taking people's money, to make a doctor waste his time killing your kid for you IS NOT A RIGHT, never could be.
I have no moral qualms with abortion, but I think its wrong that women have the right to opt out, but men cannot.
I’m pro-choice but hate that’s it’s come to this. The choice to abort or abandon a child is a sad choice no matter the reason.
The irony is that if you put even a iota of logic pro lifers position crumbles.
He’s NOT wrong!
If 2 People over the age of 18 have sex then EITHER one should be allowed to “Opt Out”!
I fear what kind of a parent you will become
@@badermohammed1428
I AM a Parent! Of a 20 & 15 yr olds.
While I never thought I could have an Abortion, Ive ALWAYS thought that was between the Woman and her Doctor.
And while women want equality that goes BOTH ways! Just as being a Birther does NOT make you the better parent over the Donor.
Also while in many ways its not fair and their is MORE responsibility and pressure on the Female, unfortunately THATS Biology!! That is why it is MORE important for a Woman to take EVERY precaution against Pregnancy if she is NOT prepared to have to make a decision to Keep, Give up for Adoption , Give Parental rights to the other Parent, Abort, or Prepare for an Absent Father. It really IS that simple. And yes the Donor is Half responsible, statistically and rationally we ALL know that NEVER equal. It ALWAYS falls on the Birther and MOSTLY us, the Taxpayers. But that another Branch from the tree of Life.
There have been cases of the Donor wanting to take over Parental care after birth of Child, the Man is NEVER given a Choice. Is THAT fair?
In the end the ONLY person NOT given a choice is the Human, be it in or out of the Womb.
And I say this will ALL my Heart and Soul… I would rather a Baby be Aborted than to know and LIVE with the knowledge they are Unloved, Unwanted, Used and Abused.
Oh man being able to opt out would be so great!!!
@@DREADEYE_KNIGHTyou completely missed the point, bravo sir.
NO NEITHER should be able to opt out. You made the choice when you had sex
It would never happen because all judges' retirement comes from child support dept.
you're sheeting me??? Seriously?
@@davestuddaman8127, 100% Fact. It is all public information. I didn't believe it until I looked myself.
The confusion on her face was palpable.
And if he wants to keep it, if she doesn't, he has no choice
Get pregnant if you want to keep it
@@kw1457 don't get pregnant if you don't want to keep it.
His choice was made when he slept with her. Find a lady that is against abortion.👍
"The woman doesn't have to agree to that." He just outed the entire pro-life argument.
This isn’t a pro-life argument lol
@@Vantaa815 Maybe not, but that statement proves the pro-life argument's double standard.
@@FloyminJust trying to follow your logic here. What is the double standard in the pro-life stance? Anti-abortion means neither parent gets to dip out. Brian isn't making a serious suggestion here, just attempting to point out the pro-abortion double standard. What am I missing?
@@wandarincon8464 Then I guess BOTH SIDES are choosing to leave men out of the debate, because I never hear pro-lifers talk about holding men responsible for raising that life. But I DO hear about women who make that DIFFICULT decision WITH their PARTNER!
@Floymin 😂😂😂 stfu... you sound stup_d... it's not spoken on because all society understands that he will still be held responsible financially. Did you miss that part... been sleeping for decades now or something? Yet a woman can abandon a child at an orphanage and walk away with no consequences. If a woman can walk into an abortion clinic and get an abortion without consent from the father then the father should be able to walk away with no consequences in the same respect. Or is it OK for women but nit men? Is it only OK when the child will change the woman's life but nit when it derails the fathers future. Stop while you're ahead... it sounds retar_Ed.
Absolutely true. Men should be able to opt out.
Nobody should be able to opt out
That's a loaded question..... she walked straight into it
100% why hasn't this been brought in already!
It doesn't fit the Pro M(urder) DemoRat press and the Pro M(urder) Feminist brigade.
"get rid of it" That's awful.
My man just ripped off Dave Chappelle lol
Facts glad somebody pointed that out
The sad thing is they actually think they are entitled to ALL of it
Im not religious. Im not even very sympathetic. Hearing a woman say "get rid of it" disgusted me to a point I refuse to define her as a woman. I don't know why I feel this way but this is just crazy to me hearing that about a baby at any stage of growth.
Absolutely. I was atheist for a long time until I learned to separate religion from Jesus cuz humans are flawed. In my view now, it's because God put certain moral standards on everyone's heart. We know what's right and wrong in our deepest soul. When we reject this and continue in sin we get desensitized to it so our natural revulsion to certain things becomes numb over time. This makes it easier to continue in sin.
mrJosh in my opinion you dont have to be religious to not believe its ok to murder the innocent.... just for the record and to be clear i am religious but this isnt a religious issue in my opinion ....
I mean . . . religious or not . . . no one should have the RIGHT to murder children.
@@porschetech72901its a Moral issue
@@jamieb3485 What baffles me now is how people protest for their “right” to abortion. I can’t get over this video and how it made me feel. Even days later I’m thinking about how this chick explained it. You know there’s many, many women who now feel this is okay to say/do and that’s unnerving. I just can’t imagine the thoughts in these people’s minds. Most of us have had our fair share of gore videos(thanks internet) but I’ve seen all the worst ones and never had a single emotion discomfort me. This chick managed to pull so much to the surface with one paragraph. I don’t have kids either so it’s really confusing me why it hurts me to just hear it. Then X had to go and show me the guy who was at a hearing and explained how they pull out the 2nd terms in chunks. They squeeze the skull and look for white runoff(the brain) to make sure they properly grabbed it. This is our fuckin society right now and people are proud of it.
“My body my choice” “my wallet, my will”
And if your wallet and will is to father and raise that child, that choice is taken from you by the government simply because you're a man.
Interesting thing is, the baby isn't her body, the baby is separate from the mother, a separate being, but who is just in her body while they grow because the womb is supposed to be the safest place in the world for them until they can live out in the world using their lungs to breathe (sometimes there's medical issues of course and they need help breathing outside of the womb).
@@Inhisarms333 Except its not true at all. Other wise you could just remove the baby all together before it was ready to be born.
A unborn child is dependent on the mother for it to get nutrients and what not so it can grow. To do that it has to be attached to the mother to some degree.
While I'm against abortion in general. I don't believe any one has the right to dictate to some one else on what they can and cant do with their body. You can't just strip a women right to her body and tell her she has to give birth to that child because at which point you have reduced her down to nothing more then incubator.
Unborn children have a right to life but they are not guaranteed life. The right of the mother should be prioritized over the rights of the unborn child. As the Unborn child can not survive with out the mother.
Further more I say if people really care about ending abortion then stop focusing on abortion and address the problems that lead women to having abortion in the first place.
It's also the man body at risk as well. the average 9-5 guy will struggle greatly financially to pay support for a child he doesn't want. He may need to work multiple jobs, be constantly stressed because of financial hardships. Overworking and stress will greatly impact the mana health. His body,his choice as well. The abortion debate is just another way to show it's not about equality, but rather equity. Being viewed as the same but still receiving deferential treatment and holding onto double standards.
@@bryansmith8646 it’s the beast. It consumes both the men and women.
The policies we allowed in which consume us. Invite a demon in, and he’ll try to destroy you if you force him out.
She's calculating the sun and how it'll affect her going 60mph 😂😂
Almost swallowed my tongue ☠️😂😂
That last phrase...roasted!!!
From Dave Chappelle stand up 😅
tell him to make her sign a document that renounces paternal rights, and keep a copy.
Yeah that won't work... turns out the government can just make you pay regardless to the mothers wishes.
Or you could just I don't know keep it in your pants if you don't want a child. If you do want children vet who ever you plan on sleeping with.
That would require these humans to have impulse control, forethought and an idea about her hormone cycle as well emotional stability that many of these men and mostly women don't seem to have.
He is right from a liberal's perspective. It really doesn't address the right to life arguments, but it addresses the sexism in the woman's right to choose without there being a man's right to choose.
That is true logic. It reveals the absurdity of complicit women with full control of both situations.
This should have always been a thing.... If a man wants to opt out, he gives up 100% of all rights to the child no matter what.
You don't seem to understand why child support is a thing. It has nothing to do with parental rights. It has to do with the fact that children growing up in poverty is bad for society.
In other words, if the parent isn't paying child support, society is paying instead.
@zanido9073 LMFAO. Yeah, you have no clue. Average child support being paid out is around 700$ a month. Yeah, that's keeping poverty levels low. Never EVER has child support been for "keeping poverty levels low," but hey, you're the expert, right?
It's just so the father is "assisting" with the child's needs. This is also a joke because 90% of women use it as another paycheck.
@@zanido9073sounds good but not everyone can actually afford child support. And if the man doesn't pay it,he usually goes to jail. Which usually winds up making him lose his job. Thus repeating the cycle
@dragondrakage2402 and he is also responsible for the child support rearages when he gets out
@zanido9073 because apparently my comment didn't post, 80% of child support per month is 700 or less. Yeah, that's totally stopping poverty.