@@LetsGetitBoah he is not an evil Iron Man. More like a more selfish, self centered, arrogant and smarter Tony Stark. As a head of state instead of ceo of a company
Pretty much everyone who's seen it agrees this version is THE version of the FF. Corman stayed true to the comic as much as he could and was famous for putting out movies that not only had very low budgets but were delivered on time and almost always made money or at the very least broke even. You guys should for sure do more Roger Corman movies. He helped launch SO many careers in and around Hollywood and the indiy movie scene that if he hadn't been around the industry would be VASTLY different.
This is ironically the most comic accurate version of the team on film. So YES the cringey bit about Sue and Reed having at least a 10 years age gap is COMIC ACCURATE. As is them first meeting when Reed was renting a room at her mom's boarding house while in college.
@@JasonBrant yeeeeeaaaaah, lol. That's why it was very subtly retconned out of the comics. And by subtly I mean they just don't talk about it anymore. They don't even talk about Reed being older than the others and his white sideburns being a sign of that. Nowadays, like the 2005 movie, it's presented as a side effect of getting his powers.
they may have changed it but I swear in the FF comics I have it was "Sue was 16, Reed was like 22" ..... so still not GREAT, but HE didn't have a crush on her until they met as adults years later. SUE was the school girl with the crush
@@chrisbuttonshaw2088 like I said their way of retconning it is basically not talking about it anymore. That's why there's rarely a full blown retelling of their origin that doesn't start with them as adults already.
Yeah, Marvel have had a few creepy moments. Professor X had the hots for Jean Grey back in the day. You know, typical teacher/student boarder attraction! 🤮
The Corman magic is that you say "make an F4 movie. Here's $40" and he somehow comes out with something with some charm and ambition. The animatronics on The Thing's mouth is pretty solid, and everything else is like "pretty great for $40" not bad.
The story behind this film is so fascinating that they made an 85 minute documentary called Doomed: The Untold Of Roger Corman’s The Fantastic Four that should be required viewing for all bad film fans.
@@JasonBrant The best part is how it shows that behind almost all bad movies lurks a lot of people who genuinely tried to make a successful film but a handful of idiots got in the way.
The best Fantastic 4 film to date and the best live action depiction of Doom to date. It’s clobbering time … again! (Cause clobbering time already occurred on Patreon for the uncensored episode). “Round two!”
Yes. Definitely SBIG worthy. Same with the Nick Fury TV movie. I almost said The Punisher with Dolph Lundgren but that film is actually fun in a 80s action flick way.
1) Reed and Doom were not just college students in the movie; they were graduate students. [In the comics, Doom didn't last his freshman year due to an explosion in his room.] 2) In the comics, Reed & Ben were college roommates, Sue was the girlfriend of Reed, and Johnny was the tagalong younger brother. They gained their powers when they flew through cosmic rays. 3) In the comics, Ben & Alicia (the blind woman) fell in love after the accident; something about having a knightly soul in the body of a monster. FWIW while canonically Grimm is basically a Ken doll, he can shift back to human for one day/year. The chair and burning gags are running jokes in the comics. 4) Yes, Doom has a castle; he is the leader of a small European country, after all. However, his "doctor" status is debatable considering he only lasted as a semester or two in college. 5) FWIW Reed's stretching gives him a certain degree of invulnerability, and there's been debate if it helps his intelligence by making his brain more plastic. Sue isn't just proud of her costume, BTW: In the comics, they're made of "unstable molecules" that allow them to use their powers without destroying their clothes (Reed's clothes don't normally stretch with him, for example). They can treat any clothes with them. 6) Lasers go at the speed of light, goofballs, or about 186,000+ miles per second.
Also as to the questions about Ben/The Thing's indestructability I think there was a Marvel issue where Reed Richards travels/sees into the future with the help of Reed Richards son (and like strongest being in the universe level powers) and watches Ben's life since he only ages when he is a human. So he's still alive like thousands of years later because he only is a human like 1 week a year. He died in the year 6,000+ which was like 77 years worth of 'human aging'
She grew up very pretty, had a huge crush on her in Angel😍😍😍😍😍 I, uh, might also have the issue of Playboy she, um, may be in. I got it for the articles, just a, er, coincidence she's in it.
the guy that played doom wanted them to re-record his lines because of how bad it sounded but they didn't want to spend the money on it. They had him watch Mussolini to get the hand gestures.
Red Dead Aclips SBIG Fun Facts: Jay Underwood played Johnny Storm and was in several 80's and 90's Disney movies, such as Not Quite Human, The Boy Who Could Fly and in the movie Uncle Buck as the character named Bug. Ahee heee heee(points for anyone who understands the hee hee reference) This movie somehow has a 27% favorable review rating on Rotten Tomatoes. Showing that at least 27% of Rotten Tomatoes viewers are heavy drug users. This movie is somehow though, still more entertaining than most of the new releases from Disney MCU have been.
To be fair it’s hard to do in a 90-120 minute movie for such an interesting character. If anything he needs a show like Loki got if the MCU wants to do him any justice
@@Jlaps941 True. But they are not even trying. in the last Fantastic Four movie, they made him a computer hacker. He may as well have been an anemic on a goat's milk diet. It was heinous what they did to my boy.
I'm not a comic book movie guy but this was way better than Battlefield Earth, which it reminded me of for some reason. Its funny when you realise this probably cost a fraction of Battlefield Earth's budget.
Going to say Jason, the movie you saw/rented where this trailer was shown was Carnosaur. I saw that movie and saw the trailer too. I waited for months just to find out it wasn't going to be in theaters. Broke my teenage heart.
This movie is still better than Fan4stic or the Rise of the Silver Surfer. Brian: all suicide is self-suicide. If it isn’t, then it’s murder. lol. Erin: Lasers travel at the speed of light, approximately 186,000 feet per second.
NGL, but I loved Roger Corman's version more than the previous ones. I really loved the characters in this because they bonded so well as a team, and they cast they picked for plat the FF was actually good. Yeah the effects are well not great but I didnt mind because it was great. Corman put more heart in this move than the current FF films.
The little girl who said "He's dreeeeeamy," while standing at the bottom of a flight of stairs at the beginning was the blond girl from summer camp in The Addams Family (and later played Harmony on the Buffy series)!
My absolute favorite moment in this or any Fantastic Four movie is when Alicia gets abducted, and as she's blacking out, we get a brief POV shot. From the POV of a BLIND character. It is just...so good. 😂
There is a documentary about the story behind the movie called " DOOMED- the untold story of Roger Corman's the Fantastic Four ". Fox wanted to hold on to the rights. Stan Lee knew about it and even visited the set. I feel bad for the actors, they got the short end of the stick.
@@JasonBrant It was during the reading of one of Sue's bedtime stories. Actually it's just crap I've picked up in passing. I've never read a F4 comic. My brain absorbs useless information, just like all your obscure movie facts and cast trivia.
My favorite story I heard about this movie is that the actors who played Reed, Johnny, the Thing, and Doom paid their own money to go to a local Convention and present the movie. They had no idea it was never supposed to come out. They actually got to the Con in a Van, and Roger got a hold of them and stopped them before they could go inside. Really, the only reason this movie came out is because some people who worked on it ripped some VHS copies and leaked it.
And now for actual Comic Book Geek Knowledge. The reason in Canon for the Fantastic Four (and many Marvel Superheroes) to have outfits that they wear all the time was actually because of Reed Richards. Early in the run, Reed invented "Unstable Molecules," a substance that could be turned in to fabric. It's main ability is it's not affected by the powers of the wearer. Which is how Reed can stretch in it, and Johnny can "Flame On!" and not end up naked.
@@famijher So if the fabric is not affected by the powers...how can Sue get invisible in it wearing that? which brings us to the only memorable scene of FF1 and Jessica Alba...
@@voxdraconia4035 Sorry, Unstable Molecules operate by the Scientific Principles known Officially as "Comics BS." They will never be negatively affected by the wearers powers, but will always be positively affected by them.
I honestly think the Fantastic Four is a cursed intellectual property when it comes to film adaptations. Not one film has been good, and Roger Corman himself didn't want this movie released!
I bought VHS bootleg this at a comic convention in 1996. This film was only made to keep the film rights and never was supposed to be released. What is awful is the producers lied to the actors and told them it was.
from what ive heard, it had to be released to hold the rights. The vhs was release in rental stores for a super short period, like one day and was called back instantly. Thats why there are bootlegs around.
Baron Von Unterbeit from Venture Bros was a take off of Dr Doom from F4 cmc books. Doom was some kind of Royalty and leader of a hellish USSR type of country and had a castle and everything but he was like an evil wizard or something.
I bought a bootleg VHS copy of this and Heavy Metal at the Portland Comic Book Show in '94 for $20 each. Yes, we were that starved for comic book movies back then. Today, we have the exact opposite problem.
First off, great Old Gods shirt! I helped review this for another site a long time ago, and I remember thinking this movie was actually charming for what it was. Definitely low-budget and cheesy as all hell, but as a Corman-level superhero movie, it's certainly not the worst movie I've seen. The Thing suit also looks way better than you'd think with the money spent on this project. The space phenomenon in the comic book was "cosmic rays," and Doom was not with them when it happened.
Ironic given they just dropped the first tease of the new FF in the 60s. This film is admirable but man oh man did it need more money or better timing. It's fine for what it is. The FF films for me range form being ok to dull to really bad and not one of them is above ok, i hope that changes.. The Penguin guy is supposed to be Mole Man. Not Hans lol
Probably the best version of the Fantastic Four is the animated series Fantastic Four: World's Greatest Heroes. It gets the characters right and has some surprisingly deep and well-written scenes, with villains from the original comics but done in a way that works for a modern audience. This movie is fun, but Dr Doom is one of the best villains ever, and it's a shame how few people outside of comic fans ever get to see Doom at his best because film portrayals just don't do him justice. Here's hoping we'll eventually get a great Doom in live action!
Despite Reed's, uh, attributes, Sue has a long-term affair with Namor. It's implied Reed knows but looks the other way because he's self-aware enough to recognize he's more emotionally invested in science than his romantic relationship. Delighted to hear a return of "B double-E double R U N" in this episode!
The thing about this movie never having seen a proper release is that is was made mainly so that german company Constantin Film could renew the license rights. They had to make use of said license to do so. Enter Roger Corman.
The Fantastic Four (1994, unreleased) Bernd Eichinger of Constantin Film acquired the film rights of the Fantastic Four from Marvel Comics in 1986. In order to maintain the rights, Eichinger hired Roger Corman in 1992 to produce a low-budget film. Source Wikipedia.
The original guy they hired for the computer effects lied about his experience. They had very little time and budget to get anything done. The part where Johnny flies into the laser beam and gets spun around etc. is one-for-one copied from one of the 1940s Fleischer Superman shorts, which are amazing by the way. The studio wouldn't put anything into promotion, so the director and cast got together and went to various conventions and stores promoting it themselves until they were forced to stop. They were very serious and proud of what they did, even though they knew it was cheesy and cheap, and they wanted it to be finished and seen. It was a very guerrilla production at the end as they were being abandoned due to a secret deal being made behind the scenes to junk the film and eventually make the FOX FF movie we got. The actor who played Doom, who was the son of the late great character actor Robert Culp, said in the documentary about the film that he is still willing to do the voice of Doom if they ever want to finish it.
Compared to the Reb Brown Captain America of the 70s, or the 1990 version, or that super lame David Hasselhoff Nick Fury TV movie, or worst, Steel, this is a freakin' masterpiece! It actually *tries* to be faithful to the comic books, even if it's a little silly at times.
Yes, Doctor Doom has a castle. He was the ruler of an entire country, after all. He probably had several castles. Also, this had a million dollar budget and had some really basic effects...goes to show that if you wanted a movie to look halfway decent you'd need something more than that. And at the very least some people who know what they're doing. xD But hell, the people who made this went for it at least, even it never got fully released.
How this didn't get more done to make it worthwhile, yet Howard The Duck was finished and released years earlier, I cannot fathom. Marvel was mostly behind DC when it comes to movies for many, many years.
Strange how this movie has the best (kind of) Dr. Doom. The FoxDoom was turned into a metal endoskeleton that could shoot lasers, and FoxDoom 2 looked like C-3PO fùcked a Jiffy Pop. I'm hoping Marvel does him cinematic justice finally. That was a fun video, I'll seeya guys on Sunday!!!
Yeah, this Doom is bad, but it's the least bad. And honestly, if they actually planned to ever release the movie, and they let the poor actor loop his lines, it could've been a lot better.
The story of this movie is fascinating. In short Roger Corman was used to test a Fantastic Four movie. He thought he was being honestly employed to make the film but he got back stabbed by Marvel who canned the whole project. They even banned him from keeping any copies of the film. He did anyway and finished the movie in very restricted conditions. What he produced is a way better film than the reputation has it. I have a copy on dvd and it's actually a really good film. It suffers from having it's budget pulled half way through and the production team having to cobble together the finished project in secret with very limited resources. But, the essence of it is very good. And the Thing costume is remarkably good. If Marvel gave Corman their full backing it could have been the start of the Fantastic Four getting the attention they deserved. While I think all the FF movies had merit, they were not quite where the fans would have liked them to be. Roger Corman got closer to the real essence of the FF on film than probably anyone else.
Dr Doom is awesome. He does live in a castle, because he owns his own country in eastern europe. He's also a genius in science and the occult. He's really the ultimate good guy, he knows he can only save the world and humanity by becoming a dictator, all the omniscient gods admit he's right. Also, doombots. I like the Venture Bros fantastic four stand ins, where the human torch guy is in agony when he's on fire.
So this film was made in an insanely short amount of time, like a couple of weeks before the rights lapsed. It exists purely to prevent the rights from reverting to the original owners. They never in tended to release the film, but none of the actors were ware of this. It's why they all give decent performances. They had a few well respected in the industry, but not well known in general actors in the cast. Even they young Sue Storm was played by Mercedes McNabb, who went on to play a lot of Guest Starring and recurring roles over the next couple of decades. No one is quite sure how it ever got leaked. Honestly, It is a pity they didn't put in the time to do the audio work and colour grading, and then actually release it. As hokey as It is, when it comes to the storyline, it is the most accurate and coherent, and therefore it is the best live action Fantastic Four film.
Agreed - it's interesting to watch as it is very faithful to the comics, the main cast is decent, and it's basically a television film, but unfinished. This was made in the same bracket as the Return of the Incredible Hulk films, similarly cheap. and in the context of early 90s films of this kind a lot of it stands up. It was never going to be any sort of classic, and yet you can definitely see real potential in there. If only it had a little more money spent on it, and had proper audio finishing and effects...
And now were watching a documentary about this version. Doomed: The Untold Story of Roger Corman's The Fantastic Four It's free on Tubi, Vudu, Freevee, etc. Thanks for starting me down this rabbit hole 😂
As a comic book geek who’s been collecting since the late 70s, I love comic movies, even the horrible ones with the exception of the Fant4stic movie that came out. I am looking forward to seeing the new one that the MCU is releasing. The Thing is my favorite character. He always has been. I can’t wait to see him yelling, “It’s clobbering time!” On the big screen again.
I’ve read that too. They made the movie not really to be good but instead to keep the rights. It was a contractual obligation in order to maintain the movie rights
There was SOOO MUCH hype for this film in the pages of Wizard Magazine back in the day, before it "came out". I was really looking forward to it, at the time. --- Then, a few years later, I found a VHS bootleg at a con and got a chance to see it....
I saw that same VHS rental ad from a Blockbuster tape, Jason. Only watched this film free on RUclips recently. It's hokey but it was made super-cheap just for the rights, the cast and crew had to finish it themselves once they realized they were being screwed on purpose. One thing I want to mention is that Sue can be incredibly dangerous in comics (she has smacked around Doom a few times, including turning his armor invisible so his disfigurement is exposed for everyone to see). And Ben/Thing is very strong and resilient, having fought the Hulk multiple times (he was facially scarred for a while by Wolverine's claws).
Jeez, I freakin' LOVE this movie! I get more genuine enjoyment out of any five minutes of it than I did out of all the obscenely expensive, but dry and soulless Marvel versions put together. Plus, the Thing looks WAY more like he does in the comics than in any of those. This really should've been one of the signs of the apocalypse: Roger Corman spending money on something he didn't expect to make a profit from. Be that as it may, the people who made this put heart into it and you can feel it.
The actor who plays Reed Richards (Mr. Fantastic), Alex Hyde-White, was in a fantastic (meaning it was probably terrible but my kid-self loved the movie) flick called Biggles: Adventures in Time. Peter Cushing was in it too. Not really a so-bad-it’s-good, but worth a watch!
On the Reed/Sue age topic - People forget that just a few years before the FF came out, girls marrying young was the norm.....Many girls in the 50's were married by the time they were 15, (or even 14) to men that were usually 10-15 years older than them. It was even more common 30 years before that....In the depression, young girls were married off because it gave the parents one less mouth to feed (pretty harsh) - so the concept of an older Reed and a younger Sue was not viewed as being super cringy back then.
The Jeweller was meant to be The Mole Man but the rights were so limited that they had to crap out an original character to fill the gap.
Ahh, interesting. Thanks for the info.
His buddies know him really well though so they just call him The Jew.
It's funny they made him jewish... 😅
@@taylorjensen2787anti-Semitism, classic in the 80s
@@sonyslyer9946still present unfortunately
In the comics, Doom has a castle. He rules his own nation. Instead of cosmic ray super powers, he's got magic and power armor.
This, he's basically an evil Iron Man.
He uses magic? Had no idea.
@@JasonBrantmagic AND technology, whatever works.
@@megatronjenkins2473 Yup, literally took over as ruler of the Universe during the Secret Wars after he absorbed The Beyonders powers.
@@LetsGetitBoah he is not an evil Iron Man. More like a more selfish, self centered, arrogant and smarter Tony Stark. As a head of state instead of ceo of a company
Pretty much everyone who's seen it agrees this version is THE version of the FF. Corman stayed true to the comic as much as he could and was famous for putting out movies that not only had very low budgets but were delivered on time and almost always made money or at the very least broke even. You guys should for sure do more Roger Corman movies. He helped launch SO many careers in and around Hollywood and the indiy movie scene that if he hadn't been around the industry would be VASTLY different.
Lots of people owe Corman their career.
This is ironically the most comic accurate version of the team on film. So YES the cringey bit about Sue and Reed having at least a 10 years age gap is COMIC ACCURATE. As is them first meeting when Reed was renting a room at her mom's boarding house while in college.
Him knowing her as a child was gross.
@@JasonBrant yeeeeeaaaaah, lol. That's why it was very subtly retconned out of the comics. And by subtly I mean they just don't talk about it anymore. They don't even talk about Reed being older than the others and his white sideburns being a sign of that. Nowadays, like the 2005 movie, it's presented as a side effect of getting his powers.
they may have changed it but I swear in the FF comics I have it was "Sue was 16, Reed was like 22" ..... so still not GREAT, but HE didn't have a crush on her until they met as adults years later. SUE was the school girl with the crush
@@chrisbuttonshaw2088 like I said their way of retconning it is basically not talking about it anymore. That's why there's rarely a full blown retelling of their origin that doesn't start with them as adults already.
Yeah, Marvel have had a few creepy moments. Professor X had the hots for Jean Grey back in the day. You know, typical teacher/student boarder attraction! 🤮
The Corman magic is that you say "make an F4 movie. Here's $40" and he somehow comes out with something with some charm and ambition. The animatronics on The Thing's mouth is pretty solid, and everything else is like "pretty great for $40" not bad.
The man could stretch a dollar like no one else.
In the comics, Doom was the ruler of the country of Latveria, which made him a super villain with diplomatic immunity.
This sounds like a job for Roger Murtaugh.
I agree - Murtaugh needs to revoke that.
@@JasonBrantand he indeed had a Castle
@@JCIce007 Forever and always one of my favourite movie scenes.
"It's just been revoked."
Imagine doing that these days.
The story behind this film is so fascinating that they made an 85 minute documentary called Doomed: The Untold Of Roger Corman’s The Fantastic Four that should be required viewing for all bad film fans.
Definitely gonna watch that.
@@JasonBrant watch it for the show!!!! Do an S.B.I.G
Special Presentation, like on tv in the 80s!!!
@@JasonBrant
The best part is how it shows that behind almost all bad movies lurks a lot of people who genuinely tried to make a successful film but a handful of idiots got in the way.
That documentary is fascinating.
The best Fantastic 4 film to date and the best live action depiction of Doom to date. It’s clobbering time … again! (Cause clobbering time already occurred on Patreon for the uncensored episode). “Round two!”
It's definitely the most entertaining. And the others didn't have Doom acting like a mime. Point Roger Corman.
Best part of Corman movies is the charm. Everyone always looks like they're having a good time.
Charming is a great way to describe so many of his movies.
Captain America 1990 is a Canon film, we need this
JD Salinger’s son is the captain
It will happen.
@@JasonBrantyes please. It is a truly bad movie and he really sucks as Cap.
The ears molded into the cowl is 😂
Yes. Definitely SBIG worthy. Same with the Nick Fury TV movie. I almost said The Punisher with Dolph Lundgren but that film is actually fun in a 80s action flick way.
Please, for the love of sanity, no! 😢 Next you'll be asking for the Doctor Strange movie
1) Reed and Doom were not just college students in the movie; they were graduate students. [In the comics, Doom didn't last his freshman year due to an explosion in his room.]
2) In the comics, Reed & Ben were college roommates, Sue was the girlfriend of Reed, and Johnny was the tagalong younger brother. They gained their powers when they flew through cosmic rays.
3) In the comics, Ben & Alicia (the blind woman) fell in love after the accident; something about having a knightly soul in the body of a monster. FWIW while canonically Grimm is basically a Ken doll, he can shift back to human for one day/year. The chair and burning gags are running jokes in the comics.
4) Yes, Doom has a castle; he is the leader of a small European country, after all. However, his "doctor" status is debatable considering he only lasted as a semester or two in college.
5) FWIW Reed's stretching gives him a certain degree of invulnerability, and there's been debate if it helps his intelligence by making his brain more plastic. Sue isn't just proud of her costume, BTW: In the comics, they're made of "unstable molecules" that allow them to use their powers without destroying their clothes (Reed's clothes don't normally stretch with him, for example). They can treat any clothes with them.
6) Lasers go at the speed of light, goofballs, or about 186,000+ miles per second.
Lasers go 2.2 seconds per second squared. Erin already explained this.
Also as to the questions about Ben/The Thing's indestructability I think there was a Marvel issue where Reed Richards travels/sees into the future with the help of Reed Richards son (and like strongest being in the universe level powers) and watches Ben's life since he only ages when he is a human. So he's still alive like thousands of years later because he only is a human like 1 week a year. He died in the year 6,000+ which was like 77 years worth of 'human aging'
Young Sue was Mercedes McNabb (Harmony on Buffy/Angel).
She grew up very pretty, had a huge crush on her in Angel😍😍😍😍😍
I, uh, might also have the issue of Playboy she, um, may be in. I got it for the articles, just a, er, coincidence she's in it.
She was also in both early 90's Addams Family movies, first as a girl scout, then as the main girl at the summer camp Wednesday fucks with
@@BrianVarvaro "Are they made of real Girl Scouts?"
Adams Family Values slaps hard
the guy that played doom wanted them to re-record his lines because of how bad it sounded but they didn't want to spend the money on it.
They had him watch Mussolini to get the hand gestures.
They didn't want to spend the money on it, haha. Love it.
And yet, this camp-as-hell Doom is still less comical than real-life Mussolini. That guy was sooo fk'n cringe. Clown show.
Red Dead Aclips SBIG Fun Facts:
Jay Underwood played Johnny Storm and was in several 80's and 90's Disney movies, such as Not Quite Human, The Boy Who Could Fly and in the movie Uncle Buck as the character named Bug. Ahee heee heee(points for anyone who understands the hee hee reference)
This movie somehow has a 27% favorable review rating on Rotten Tomatoes. Showing that at least 27% of Rotten Tomatoes viewers are heavy drug users.
This movie is somehow though, still more entertaining than most of the new releases from Disney MCU have been.
That's Bug? Holy shit. Nice catch!
Wow! I knew he played Bug, but I completely forgot about The Boy Who Could Fly! And Not Quite Human! Wow again!
I loved not quite human and the boy who could fly as a kid!
Why the username change is the real question
Dr. Doom was voted the number one villain of all time and they've never done him right in a movie. He deserves better.
To be fair it’s hard to do in a 90-120 minute movie for such an interesting character. If anything he needs a show like Loki got if the MCU wants to do him any justice
@@Jlaps941 True. But they are not even trying. in the last Fantastic Four movie, they made him a computer hacker. He may as well have been an anemic on a goat's milk diet. It was heinous what they did to my boy.
Word!
Maybe they'll finally get Doom right next year? Fourth time's the charm for the FF?
The number one? Who voted on that?
Dr Doom is awesome, he has a yearly fist fight with Marvels version of the devil to try and save his mothers soul.
Really?
@@JasonBrant Nerd card revoked.
it is yeah @@JK-uv9zj
I'm not a comic book movie guy but this was way better than Battlefield Earth, which it reminded me of for some reason. Its funny when you realise this probably cost a fraction of Battlefield Earth's budget.
This was way more fun than Battlefield Earth.
Going to say Jason, the movie you saw/rented where this trailer was shown was Carnosaur. I saw that movie and saw the trailer too. I waited for months just to find out it wasn't going to be in theaters. Broke my teenage heart.
Carnosaur? That doesn't seem right.
The trailer was probably put into the previews of multiple different lower budget films.
I had seen it on The Skateboard Kid VHS.
This movie is still better than Fan4stic or the Rise of the Silver Surfer.
Brian: all suicide is self-suicide. If it isn’t, then it’s murder. lol.
Erin: Lasers travel at the speed of light, approximately 186,000 feet per second.
That's what she said, weren't you listening?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Actually, lasers go 2.2 seconds per second squared.
NGL, but I loved Roger Corman's version more than the previous ones. I really loved the characters in this because they bonded so well as a team, and they cast they picked for plat the FF was actually good. Yeah the effects are well not great but I didnt mind because it was great. Corman put more heart in this move than the current FF films.
The little girl who said "He's dreeeeeamy," while standing at the bottom of a flight of stairs at the beginning was the blond girl from summer camp in The Addams Family (and later played Harmony on the Buffy series)!
Oh man perfect timing! Just got to my kids school to sit for an hour to pick them up! Thank you for uploading, you're doing the Lord's work!
Love the Old Gods of Asgard shirt! Keep on rocking, brother!
🎶Like an evil twin scratching within 🎶
My absolute favorite moment in this or any Fantastic Four movie is when Alicia gets abducted, and as she's blacking out, we get a brief POV shot. From the POV of a BLIND character. It is just...so good. 😂
There is a documentary about the story behind the movie called " DOOMED- the untold story of Roger Corman's the Fantastic Four ". Fox wanted to hold on to the rights. Stan Lee knew about it and even visited the set. I feel bad for the actors, they got the short end of the stick.
Doom’s voice sounds like Charlie Brown’s teacher! 😂😂😂
Doom has a castle. He's the sovereign ruler of Latveria. It was a hostile takeover, but he has the support of his people.
They must have glossed over that in the movie 🤣
@@JasonBrant
It was during the reading of one of Sue's bedtime stories.
Actually it's just crap I've picked up in passing. I've never read a F4 comic. My brain absorbs useless information, just like all your obscure movie facts and cast trivia.
It’s almost like you knew Marvel/Disney was going to release their new F4 casting…
It's kinda wild - we recorded this a few weeks ago.
@@JasonBrant It's a strange world we live in, lol!
Yeah but they've been harping on this cast for a while now. It's gonna be so mid. Glad I got to see this obviously superior version
My favorite story I heard about this movie is that the actors who played Reed, Johnny, the Thing, and Doom paid their own money to go to a local Convention and present the movie. They had no idea it was never supposed to come out. They actually got to the Con in a Van, and Roger got a hold of them and stopped them before they could go inside. Really, the only reason this movie came out is because some people who worked on it ripped some VHS copies and leaked it.
And now for actual Comic Book Geek Knowledge. The reason in Canon for the Fantastic Four (and many Marvel Superheroes) to have outfits that they wear all the time was actually because of Reed Richards. Early in the run, Reed invented "Unstable Molecules," a substance that could be turned in to fabric. It's main ability is it's not affected by the powers of the wearer. Which is how Reed can stretch in it, and Johnny can "Flame On!" and not end up naked.
@@famijher So if the fabric is not affected by the powers...how can Sue get invisible in it wearing that? which brings us to the only memorable scene of FF1 and Jessica Alba...
@@voxdraconia4035 Sorry, Unstable Molecules operate by the Scientific Principles known Officially as "Comics BS." They will never be negatively affected by the wearers powers, but will always be positively affected by them.
I honestly think the Fantastic Four is a cursed intellectual property when it comes to film adaptations. Not one film has been good, and Roger Corman himself didn't want this movie released!
This was definitely better than the reboot they did that had a computer generated thing.
I bought VHS bootleg this at a comic convention in 1996. This film was only made to keep the film rights and never was supposed to be released. What is awful is the producers lied to the actors and told them it was.
from what ive heard, it had to be released to hold the rights. The vhs was release in rental stores for a super short period, like one day and was called back instantly. Thats why there are bootlegs around.
Perfect timing, considering the casting news for the movie, that was released today whoop whoop!
Baron Von Unterbeit from Venture Bros was a take off of Dr Doom from F4 cmc books. Doom was some kind of Royalty and leader of a hellish USSR type of country and had a castle and everything but he was like an evil wizard or something.
I bought a bootleg VHS copy of this and Heavy Metal at the Portland Comic Book Show in '94 for $20 each. Yes, we were that starved for comic book movies back then. Today, we have the exact opposite problem.
I remember seeing this at a bootleg party. It's on par with the ridiculous Captain America with the rubber ears.
Is that the one where he fakes being sick to steal cars?
Looking forward to watching that soon.
The Red Skull is Italian in that Captain America movie…🤦🏻♂️
@@Riplee86yes, repeatedly. Somehow that's Caps go to move
@@crankfastle8138 I always appreciated that little nod to it in the Winter Soldier movie.
First off, great Old Gods shirt! I helped review this for another site a long time ago, and I remember thinking this movie was actually charming for what it was. Definitely low-budget and cheesy as all hell, but as a Corman-level superhero movie, it's certainly not the worst movie I've seen. The Thing suit also looks way better than you'd think with the money spent on this project. The space phenomenon in the comic book was "cosmic rays," and Doom was not with them when it happened.
Ironic given they just dropped the first tease of the new FF in the 60s.
This film is admirable but man oh man did it need more money or better timing. It's fine for what it is. The FF films for me range form being ok to dull to really bad and not one of them is above ok, i hope that changes..
The Penguin guy is supposed to be Mole Man. Not Hans lol
Probably the best version of the Fantastic Four is the animated series Fantastic Four: World's Greatest Heroes. It gets the characters right and has some surprisingly deep and well-written scenes, with villains from the original comics but done in a way that works for a modern audience. This movie is fun, but Dr Doom is one of the best villains ever, and it's a shame how few people outside of comic fans ever get to see Doom at his best because film portrayals just don't do him justice. Here's hoping we'll eventually get a great Doom in live action!
Despite Reed's, uh, attributes, Sue has a long-term affair with Namor. It's implied Reed knows but looks the other way because he's self-aware enough to recognize he's more emotionally invested in science than his romantic relationship.
Delighted to hear a return of "B double-E double R U N" in this episode!
I loved that they actually had Johnny Flame fully engulfed in fire... almost like some sort of torch but still a human ya know?
The thing about this movie never having seen a proper release is that is was made mainly so that german company Constantin Film could renew the license rights. They had to make use of said license to do so. Enter Roger Corman.
The Fantastic Four (1994, unreleased)
Bernd Eichinger of Constantin Film acquired the film rights of the Fantastic Four from Marvel Comics in 1986. In order to maintain the rights, Eichinger hired Roger Corman in 1992 to produce a low-budget film. Source Wikipedia.
The mumbling mask guy "mmmnnff fnnngg rruuungggfff" 😭😭 lol 😂
The original guy they hired for the computer effects lied about his experience. They had very little time and budget to get anything done. The part where Johnny flies into the laser beam and gets spun around etc. is one-for-one copied from one of the 1940s Fleischer Superman shorts, which are amazing by the way.
The studio wouldn't put anything into promotion, so the director and cast got together and went to various conventions and stores promoting it themselves until they were forced to stop. They were very serious and proud of what they did, even though they knew it was cheesy and cheap, and they wanted it to be finished and seen. It was a very guerrilla production at the end as they were being abandoned due to a secret deal being made behind the scenes to junk the film and eventually make the FOX FF movie we got. The actor who played Doom, who was the son of the late great character actor Robert Culp, said in the documentary about the film that he is still willing to do the voice of Doom if they ever want to finish it.
By the way, Alex Hyde-White as Mr Fantastic, loved him in Biggles and the movie as well.
Pity it went almost unnoticed cause of Back to the future.
Made a similar comment before reading the other comments. Really remember liking that movie a lot!
@@jtmotley8848 I still think that movie is great and I still remember the theme song after all of these years)
My childhood has never been so offended, yet so amused. Glorious.
Compared to the Reb Brown Captain America of the 70s, or the 1990 version, or that super lame David Hasselhoff Nick Fury TV movie, or worst, Steel, this is a freakin' masterpiece! It actually *tries* to be faithful to the comic books, even if it's a little silly at times.
We've switched off-cam Pam for Not-Carin' Erin!
Yes, Doctor Doom has a castle. He was the ruler of an entire country, after all. He probably had several castles.
Also, this had a million dollar budget and had some really basic effects...goes to show that if you wanted a movie to look halfway decent you'd need something more than that. And at the very least some people who know what they're doing. xD
But hell, the people who made this went for it at least, even it never got fully released.
6:18 "stands on its own," -- a monolith, if you will...
How this didn't get more done to make it worthwhile, yet Howard The Duck was finished and released years earlier, I cannot fathom. Marvel was mostly behind DC when it comes to movies for many, many years.
Strange how this movie has the best (kind of) Dr. Doom. The FoxDoom was turned into a metal endoskeleton that could shoot lasers, and FoxDoom 2 looked like C-3PO fùcked a Jiffy Pop. I'm hoping Marvel does him cinematic justice finally.
That was a fun video, I'll seeya guys on Sunday!!!
C-3po fucked a jiffy pop has me dying 😂😂😂😂😂
Yeah, this Doom is bad, but it's the least bad. And honestly, if they actually planned to ever release the movie, and they let the poor actor loop his lines, it could've been a lot better.
Well as someone who read the comics they never captured the greatest of these characters,great reaction from you and great cameo from the dog.
The story of this movie is fascinating. In short Roger Corman was used to test a Fantastic Four movie. He thought he was being honestly employed to make the film but he got back stabbed by Marvel who canned the whole project. They even banned him from keeping any copies of the film. He did anyway and finished the movie in very restricted conditions. What he produced is a way better film than the reputation has it. I have a copy on dvd and it's actually a really good film. It suffers from having it's budget pulled half way through and the production team having to cobble together the finished project in secret with very limited resources. But, the essence of it is very good. And the Thing costume is remarkably good. If Marvel gave Corman their full backing it could have been the start of the Fantastic Four getting the attention they deserved. While I think all the FF movies had merit, they were not quite where the fans would have liked them to be. Roger Corman got closer to the real essence of the FF on film than probably anyone else.
Dr Doom is awesome. He does live in a castle, because he owns his own country in eastern europe. He's also a genius in science and the occult. He's really the ultimate good guy, he knows he can only save the world and humanity by becoming a dictator, all the omniscient gods admit he's right. Also, doombots.
I like the Venture Bros fantastic four stand ins, where the human torch guy is in agony when he's on fire.
The Things costume is taken from the Jack Kirby version.
I cannot tell a lie! I prefer this to all other Fantastic 4 movies...
Here`s a fun list for you guys. "Kung Fury", "Iron Sky", "Iron Sky" (The coming Race) and "Velocipastor".
I love how the spaceship just completely exploded. Corman never disappoints.
They survived without a scratch. Amazing stuff.
So this film was made in an insanely short amount of time, like a couple of weeks before the rights lapsed. It exists purely to prevent the rights from reverting to the original owners. They never in tended to release the film, but none of the actors were ware of this. It's why they all give decent performances. They had a few well respected in the industry, but not well known in general actors in the cast. Even they young Sue Storm was played by Mercedes McNabb, who went on to play a lot of Guest Starring and recurring roles over the next couple of decades.
No one is quite sure how it ever got leaked.
Honestly, It is a pity they didn't put in the time to do the audio work and colour grading, and then actually release it. As hokey as It is, when it comes to the storyline, it is the most accurate and coherent, and therefore it is the best live action Fantastic Four film.
Agreed - it's interesting to watch as it is very faithful to the comics, the main cast is decent, and it's basically a television film, but unfinished. This was made in the same bracket as the Return of the Incredible Hulk films, similarly cheap. and in the context of early 90s films of this kind a lot of it stands up. It was never going to be any sort of classic, and yet you can definitely see real potential in there. If only it had a little more money spent on it, and had proper audio finishing and effects...
Why they didn't bring Corman back for the new one is beyond me. He got the source material better than the big studios.
Holy crap, is THIS that F4 movie they referenced on Arrested Development?
And now were watching a documentary about this version.
Doomed: The Untold Story of Roger Corman's The Fantastic Four
It's free on Tubi, Vudu, Freevee, etc.
Thanks for starting me down this rabbit hole 😂
I took way too long to notice Brian's Old Gods of Asgard T-shirt. Hell yeah.
Doom lives in a medieval-style castle, ruling over the nation, Latveria.
A couple "legal" uses for invisibility that a friend came up with: 1) join the circus and become an act. 2) become a magician's assistant.
As a comic book geek who’s been collecting since the late 70s, I love comic movies, even the horrible ones with the exception of the Fant4stic movie that came out.
I am looking forward to seeing the new one that the MCU is releasing. The Thing is my favorite character. He always has been. I can’t wait to see him yelling, “It’s clobbering time!” On the big screen again.
I just finish watching a video about this movie, hit refresh and you guys have a video out about it. The algorithm is becoming a precog
I feel like hell today thank you for posting this today I need it. Can't wait to see what this movie brings. Love the channel big fan from NJ!!📼📼🍻🍻🤘🤘
I’ve read that too. They made the movie not really to be good but instead to keep the rights. It was a contractual obligation in order to maintain the movie rights
Just by sheer chance, I was telling my mate that this film exists around the time you posted this video. What an amazing coincidence!
Let's be honest here. This is probably way better than whatever the hell Disney has cooking up.
I have no doubt this is more fun.
I think I remember reading that Thing's costume in this movie was made by the same costume designers that made the 1990 TMNT movie suits.
If I remember the comic book correctly, makes this movie pretty accurate.
(Alcohol always helps) 🤣
Doom definitely has a castle in Doomstadt, the capital city of Latveria. ; p
Your timing on this was IMPECCABLE since they released the cast for the new one today…
Shout out to Brian with the Old Gods of Asgard shirt!
You had me at "movie from the 90's" 😂 I'm all in!!!
Holy crap the blonde girl is Harmony from Buffy!
This was a fantastic ride of a movie from everything accurate of the comic. This movie was so on point.
5:16 AH yes, the titular and iconic line
Always a great time with you two/three.
The new pup is a cutey.
A little disappointed you didn't show off your poster. ;)
How was the beer?
I hope you have Albert Pyuns, ‘Captain America’ too
Albert Pyun did that? Really??
I do, that movie is Stupid fun!!!
@@JasonBrant Yes he did, came out in 1990 and it stars one of the jocks from REVENGE OF THE NERDS.
@@JasonBrant I have BOTH of these gems!
He did, came out in 1990
Netflix, or Tubi, had a documentry about this film on it with cast and crew interviews, including Corman himself. It's a FANTASTIC watch. 😁
This is better than all the other F4 films!!! At least they knew it was bad :-)
21:05 Oh hey look, it that blinking light laser prop that's in almost every scifi tv series and movie from the 80s!
This is like a Saturday morning version of Fantastic 4, like Shazam!, etc.
So much better than recent FF efforts. The waving arm at the end caught/ me by surprise 😂😂
"What about the fire? Is it hand painted or something?" actually, surprisingly, it was an early CG effect! Probably cost most of the $1m budget, too.
Is Johnny Storm The Boy Who Could Fly? (checking) Yes he was! Wow that takes me waaaaaaaaay back.
There was SOOO MUCH hype for this film in the pages of Wizard Magazine back in the day, before it "came out". I was really looking forward to it, at the time. --- Then, a few years later, I found a VHS bootleg at a con and got a chance to see it....
I saw that same VHS rental ad from a Blockbuster tape, Jason. Only watched this film free on RUclips recently. It's hokey but it was made super-cheap just for the rights, the cast and crew had to finish it themselves once they realized they were being screwed on purpose. One thing I want to mention is that Sue can be incredibly dangerous in comics (she has smacked around Doom a few times, including turning his armor invisible so his disfigurement is exposed for everyone to see). And Ben/Thing is very strong and resilient, having fought the Hulk multiple times (he was facially scarred for a while by Wolverine's claws).
Jeez, I freakin' LOVE this movie! I get more genuine enjoyment out of any five minutes of it than I did out of all the obscenely expensive, but dry and soulless Marvel versions put together. Plus, the Thing looks WAY more like he does in the comics than in any of those. This really should've been one of the signs of the apocalypse: Roger Corman spending money on something he didn't expect to make a profit from. Be that as it may, the people who made this put heart into it and you can feel it.
Been a minute since I laughed this hard at an episode. Nicely done
The actor who plays Reed Richards (Mr. Fantastic), Alex Hyde-White, was in a fantastic (meaning it was probably terrible but my kid-self loved the movie) flick called Biggles: Adventures in Time. Peter Cushing was in it too. Not really a so-bad-it’s-good, but worth a watch!
The actress who played Sue storm was also in the movie love potion number 9 which yall should also check out if yall haven't already
On the Reed/Sue age topic - People forget that just a few years before the FF came out, girls marrying young was the norm.....Many girls in the 50's were married by the time they were 15, (or even 14) to men that were usually 10-15 years older than them. It was even more common 30 years before that....In the depression, young girls were married off because it gave the parents one less mouth to feed (pretty harsh) - so the concept of an older Reed and a younger Sue was not viewed as being super cringy back then.
22:25 i already knew this was coming, the looks on your faces are fùcking PLATINUM!!!!
goddamn thank you for the link. ive wanted to see this forever!