Where is the AI that Flux advertises makes it so quick and easy? This isn’t much different than any other PCB layout software. Thanks for the demo. You know that tool well.
Like most other programs, it is merely 15 minutes AFTER you learn the program and the capabilities. Otherwise, the actual time could be pretty long as you stumble through trying to fine what you need to do what you want to do... But it could be a good program after you learn enough to work fluently with it...
I coppied your circuit and made a pcb for it in under 5 minutes using Pcad2002 - a 23 year old software package. It does everything Flux does, just not the 3D view at the end. Pcad also auto links in real time between the circuit layout and the pcb layout. It has the design rules. It even has a auto router, thow that usualy needs manual touch up afterwards.
Hey, I am having a porblem with my layers, is there somewhere we can communicate to see if oyu can help me? The thing is my design is 4 layers and the middke ones are 3v3 and GND, it generates something called "Via-sland-0. Via-Island-0" and I think it is shorting all the layers.
Flow has a very fluid, clean and attractive interface. It's smooth and responsive, especially for a browser-based front-end. Unfortunately, it has some glaring usability issues. For some common operations, it requires adding mystery meat properties which hampers workflow and frustrates users expecting to easily find them. Rotating, excluding simulation components from the PCB, sizing, and positioning shouldn't require scrolling through a list of parameters and adding them to the palette. They should be accessible by default. Moreover, what Flux calls "layout rules" for some of these parameters differs from what PCB manufacturers and other software packages commonly define as them as. Layout rules are defined as a list of PCB design constraints specified by either the manufacturer or critical electrical considerations, not an arbitrary set of software features. It's also unclear how they differ from "properties" as they appear to be the same thing, nor is it clear how they are "rules." With an abundance of EDA tools on the market, Flux has an uphill battle. The web-only interface will be a deal killer for many engineers and hobbyists who prefer desktop based applications. It surprising Flux took this path considering the numerous failed web-based apps such as On-Shape.
Thanks for your input. Yes, Flux is quite different from other EDA tools, which I think is a good thing. I believe they went with a browser-based app in order to keep the software up to date for everyone and to serve more people. For example, I use macOS which means I can't use many desktop-based EDA tools. I get why it's frustrating to scrolling through a list of properties unless you know what you're looking for. You say it should be accessible by default, but I'm not sure what you mean. I guess the alternative is having a button for everything, but then you're looking at a wall of buttons. I'm curious if you have a better solution in mind. I would encourage you to join the slack community and share your ideas and experience join.slack.com/t/fluxcommunity/shared_invite/zt-1ko2w0hg3-kGAboZ7PNkzvDURp0QiQeg
I've been using Onshape for a while now and dont see how it fails as a web app. It is easy to use and is one of the best online CAD modeling software I've used
@@trarredbandit9734 It's no match for Fusion 360. Everyone I know hates AutoDesk, but will shell out money for it. Theres no equal in ease of use, performance and productivity. On-Shape waged a battle against Fusion 360 and lost badly.
Excellent tools and introduction! However, I encountered an issue with the simulator but can't find any useful help from th internet. In my environment, I can't see any metric in the simulator even though I replaced all parts with those with simulation models. My simulation menu always showed "No metrics to simulate". May I have your comment or help? Thanks.
Great info. Thanks for sharing. Do you offer services for small PCB projects? I signed up for Flux, but I got lost. Not an engineer it seems. Thanks again.
Let me know if you need any help! There’s also a whole community full of engineers and enthusiasts on the flux slack channel. Feel free to ask questions. join.slack.com/t/fluxcommunity/shared_invite/zt-1i92aa5wg-QpxVmOq23q5coqtGN3Oupg
2024 pcb software should be more like ChatGPT where you just tell it for example: "give me a 3x3cm single sided pcb for a LDR controlled 5mm LED using a 2n3904 npn". And boom, there it is.
Hi Kenny. Feel free to jump into Flux and start creating your schematic. If you haven't already signed up for the official slack channel, there's a whole community of engineers and developers that can help answer questions. If you'd like to hire me, DM on Twitter: twitter.com/CorneliusWrites
"When your product needs an instruction manual, you have already failed" - Elon If I was going to make a new circuit diagram / PCB software I would make it as simple as possible to use. Way too much to learn to casually jump in and make a product using this and all the other packages I've tried. the parts in the library are very limited. How to get a part from a supplier into the library? Footprint? Simulation? Very few parts have the info to be valid in the simulation. How to simulate a speaker? A Piezo mic? An LM386? It's a long way from easy to use.
Where is the AI that Flux advertises makes it so quick and easy?
This isn’t much different than any other PCB layout software.
Thanks for the demo. You know that tool well.
Check out this video: Copilot; a Jarvis-like AI for Hardware
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Like most other programs, it is merely 15 minutes AFTER you learn the program and the capabilities. Otherwise, the actual time could be pretty long as you stumble through trying to fine what you need to do what you want to do... But it could be a good program after you learn enough to work fluently with it...
truth
I coppied your circuit and made a pcb for it in under 5 minutes using Pcad2002 - a 23 year old software package. It does everything Flux does, just not the 3D view at the end. Pcad also auto links in real time between the circuit layout and the pcb layout. It has the design rules. It even has a auto router, thow that usualy needs manual touch up afterwards.
Can the final layout be printed so toner transfer can be used to print the board?
Thanks so much! I had no idea how to use a PCB software.
Nice video. What power supply are you using?
Hey, I am having a porblem with my layers, is there somewhere we can communicate to see if oyu can help me? The thing is my design is 4 layers and the middke ones are 3v3 and GND, it generates something called "Via-sland-0. Via-Island-0" and I think it is shorting all the layers.
i know nothing about pcbs, but i want to create a pcb for a product like teenage engineering po-33 sampler, where do i start from scratch? thanks
Flow has a very fluid, clean and attractive interface. It's smooth and responsive, especially for a browser-based front-end. Unfortunately, it has some glaring usability issues. For some common operations, it requires adding mystery meat properties which hampers workflow and frustrates users expecting to easily find them. Rotating, excluding simulation components from the PCB, sizing, and positioning shouldn't require scrolling through a list of parameters and adding them to the palette. They should be accessible by default.
Moreover, what Flux calls "layout rules" for some of these parameters differs from what PCB manufacturers and other software packages commonly define as them as. Layout rules are defined as a list of PCB design constraints specified by either the manufacturer or critical electrical considerations, not an arbitrary set of software features. It's also unclear how they differ from "properties" as they appear to be the same thing, nor is it clear how they are "rules."
With an abundance of EDA tools on the market, Flux has an uphill battle. The web-only interface will be a deal killer for many engineers and hobbyists who prefer desktop based applications. It surprising Flux took this path considering the numerous failed web-based apps such as On-Shape.
Thanks for your input. Yes, Flux is quite different from other EDA tools, which I think is a good thing. I believe they went with a browser-based app in order to keep the software up to date for everyone and to serve more people. For example, I use macOS which means I can't use many desktop-based EDA tools. I get why it's frustrating to scrolling through a list of properties unless you know what you're looking for. You say it should be accessible by default, but I'm not sure what you mean. I guess the alternative is having a button for everything, but then you're looking at a wall of buttons. I'm curious if you have a better solution in mind. I would encourage you to join the slack community and share your ideas and experience join.slack.com/t/fluxcommunity/shared_invite/zt-1ko2w0hg3-kGAboZ7PNkzvDURp0QiQeg
@@overshootchannel I would be happy to provide my many years expertise in UI design for a fee.
@@bobweiram6321 You'll have to talk to Flux about that.
I've been using Onshape for a while now and dont see how it fails as a web app. It is easy to use and is one of the best online CAD modeling software I've used
@@trarredbandit9734 It's no match for Fusion 360. Everyone I know hates AutoDesk, but will shell out money for it. Theres no equal in ease of use, performance and productivity. On-Shape waged a battle against Fusion 360 and lost badly.
Excellent tools and introduction! However, I encountered an issue with the simulator but can't find any useful help from th internet. In my environment, I can't see any metric in the simulator even though I replaced all parts with those with simulation models. My simulation menu always showed "No metrics to simulate". May I have your comment or help? Thanks.
Same here, I am getting the same issue
Hi.. How can i learn basic
Great video! Thank you for sharing this!
Glad you enjoyed it!
what is the name of this program?
Great info. Thanks for sharing. Do you offer services for small PCB projects? I signed up for Flux, but I got lost. Not an engineer it seems. Thanks again.
Occasionally, yes. DM me on X (twitter) @CorneliusWrites
bro i wish i had your brain, I am trying to make a bluetooth gamepad for retro systems
Let me know if you need any help! There’s also a whole community full of engineers and enthusiasts on the flux slack channel. Feel free to ask questions.
join.slack.com/t/fluxcommunity/shared_invite/zt-1i92aa5wg-QpxVmOq23q5coqtGN3Oupg
@@overshootchannel hey thanks I joined! awesome
Mine has no guidelines in connection
2024 pcb software should be more like ChatGPT where you just tell it for example: "give me a 3x3cm single sided pcb for a LDR controlled 5mm LED using a 2n3904 npn". And boom, there it is.
I know right?
is there anyway to automate the arrangement, ?
Not at this time
Dope. The idea won't easily come tho😂
how do u fix when simulation is not running?
The simulation can be fairly tricky. You need to make sure all components have a model. You should see the < > icon next to it
sometimes the function to wire the components tofgether in the scematic doesnt even seem to work its so annoyting
Interesting. Have you filed a bug?
I thought that the circuit and the pcb will be generated by writing a simple text , such as Chatgbt !!
Hi my name is Kenny,I have a project on Marble sorting machine can you help me out …I want to use Flux to draft it before making the actual project
Hi Kenny. Feel free to jump into Flux and start creating your schematic. If you haven't already signed up for the official slack channel, there's a whole community of engineers and developers that can help answer questions. If you'd like to hire me, DM on Twitter: twitter.com/CorneliusWrites
hi, Kenny, we do turnkey-pcb assembly, if you need pcb and pcba manufacturing, please don't hesitate to contact with us.
"When your product needs an instruction manual, you have already failed"
- Elon
If I was going to make a new circuit diagram / PCB software I would make it as simple as possible to use.
Way too much to learn to casually jump in and make a product using this and all the other packages I've tried.
the parts in the library are very limited. How to get a part from a supplier into the library? Footprint?
Simulation? Very few parts have the info to be valid in the simulation. How to simulate a speaker? A Piezo mic? An LM386?
It's a long way from easy to use.
Nice!! :)
I'd call that 'idea to Gerbers' in 15 minutes, i.e. clickbait.
PCB layout really. It’s not possible to make a physical PCB in a few minutes
after using this software, and realizing the lack of features, there is no way I would ever actually use this hot garbage.
Kiddy example... yeah sure u can drop a PCB in 15 min with that circ for 15 yr olds from 1978's 100 in 1 kit.