Had to upload again since the first version had an audio editing error where it was way too loud for the first couple minutes. Apologies for the delay and I hope y'all enjoy!
The idea of Toxodon being the platonic ideal “beast” rings so true. It’s like if you mixed an elephant, rhino, and hippo, then took away all the distinctive features of all those animals. Its main defining feature is that it has no defining features. It’s almost a crime that it’s scientific name isn’t just “Therium”.
Definitely! If that genus name is still open I may use it for the crescent beraphaunt (which may get a distinct genus due to being a lot more genetically distinct) that’s very funny
I remember the scene from Nigel Marven's Prehistoric Park when he travels back to Miocene South America, and ends up on a wild jeep ride as he ends up driving right through a whole herd of Toxodon! The naturalist explained Charles Darwin's interest in this animal, who thought it resembled Sirenians, but the way they were shown, they seem to be like South American hippos, with an attitude to match. BTW, like the music of this one!
Glad to see the toxodonts are doing fairly well. The Notoungulates are one of my favorite extinct animal groups, mainly due to their sheer diversity in sizes. Ranging from small, lagomorph-like animals such as Pachyrhukos or Hegetotherium, to beasts as big as rhinos, such as Toxodon, Mixotoxodon, and Trigodon, among others.
Absolutely! The clade is absolutely fascinating. Got quite a few smaller species planned that I wasn't able to get around to for this episode but have a cameo later this month.
@@TalesofKaimereaye man, how do you keep track of everything? Been working on a spec world, but it feels too overwhelming to keep track of notes and taking notes on the computer is difficult for me, any advice?
Whenever I hear about the Qajar Peninsula, it makes me want to know about all the species that were found there, and what animals survived the culling caused by the First Children
I think everything from the size of a White-Tailed Deer to bigger and every carnivores able to attack livestocks where exterminated. Animals of these two categories seen in modern Qajar are species which came after from the mainland Arvel, by crossing the wall or swimming the short part of seas waters separating Qajar from Arvel. With some species from the Last Natural Harvest, as well, than some artificial introductions by Kaimeran.
I know this is a shorter episode but to me it's no less fascinating nice to see some of the more obscure south american animals getting s spot light. While perhaps not as successful as sloths they are still quite a great beast and honestly the name Kaimerans give them is quite logical.
Sloth, Armadillos and Anteaters are very diverses and numerous and survived as if that was nothing thank to their slow metabolism which made them resilients to cold temperatures and food density loss. Typical metabolism animals haven't such advantage.
I see the wooly beraphaunt and I want to hug it! It’s so floofy!!! They resemble something like a half remembered cartoon monster/beast. Like something I drew as a kid to represent a big monster but has been lost to the decades. Something about the form of these creatures inspires a nostalgic happiness in me. My first thought was: plow/farm beast, but I suppose they are too skittish for that.
Indeed! I was also pretty surprised to see the studies supporting a high degree of speed and agility, though considering hippos and rhinos are of a similar build and also a lot faster and more nimble than they look, I suppose I shouldn't be surprised. Toxodonts also have had a long history of dealing with ambush predators, and evading that initial attack, so investing more in agility and burst of speed rather than raw power or enduring speed makes sense in their context.
This episode made my day. I'm glad to see them recovering from what wiped out most of proboscideans. Tbh? I'm very excited for this series of the Survivors of the South American harvest.
I love the name beraphaunt for the toxodons (bear elephant, that's just perfect)! Kinda sums up what they are in a way. Also can't wait for the byamdan episode. Looks like they're going to be kaimere's capybara equivalent.
I love Notoungulates, they are some of my favorite species with such distinctive features and diversity in appearance and niche. I’m very glad they survive on Kaimere and thrive, Toxodons should have by all accounts survived to the present, many made it to Texas and survived as recently as potentially just 5,000 years ago.
An amazing start to December with some of South America's most notable megafauna! Still sad my beloved sparassodonts didn't make it (I really was hoping evolving alongside large theropods and other archosaurs might have given them a context advantage). All the same, I love seeing Litopterns and Notoungulates get their due!
I haven't written them off entirely, just didn't have much success in modern times. Notoungulates are doing great and litopterns have at least two modern genera!
@TalesofKaimere Ah, I gotcha! I'm definitely interested in their story, as for a long time I didn't know pre-Isthmus South America had large native mammal predators. Learning about them as well as the sebecids was a welcomed surprise to my favorite cenozoic continent! I'm looking forward to the litoptern episode next!
In kaimere there are all kinds of mythological creatures adapted to be as realistic as possible such as: dragons, cockatrice, jomurgand among many others, I wonder if there is some kind of "sky whale" It's unlikely, but I thought about this possibility as it would be very unusual.
There is a sky ecosystem of native Kaimeran organisms, and there are some magical creatures that specialize in feeding on the swarms of aeroplankton. Only a couple meters and look more like balloon animals than a proper sky whale, but it's as close as we get!
Notoungulates are another of the countless examples of parallel evolution (with perissodactyls in this case) amazingly experimented by Nature. Another marvelous travel on Kaimere ❤👍👍👍
I love the music you choose for this video. It truly give chilling sensations. Fitting with such an odd, weird, hippo-like yet fascinating animal that Toxodon is !
Absolutely was what I was going for. Wanted something that their most distinguishing traits was being generic. No horns, tusks, trunks, or other flair. Something you look at and think well... sure is a big beast. Being generic isn't their flaw, it's their feature lol
Another fantastic episode! Glad to see that both Notoungulates and Liptopterns are doing quite well for themselves. Overall it’s just very exciting to see the spot light given to South American Cenozoic mammals.
Absolutely! So often South American megafauna are presented as inevitable losers in a competition between themselves and the north, while overlooking the fact that South America got hit way harder by the changing climate in the buildup to the interchange so they basically got kicked while they were down. Kaimere, being much more welcoming to tropical fauna, showed much more kindness to South American fauna compared to their eurasian counterparts. While there's more biodiversity of Eurasian fauna due to bias of more recent harvests, it's reasonable to think that over time, they will be relegated to the fringes and tropical clades will have more success down the road.
@@TalesofKaimere I would personnaly say that it will be a 50/50. Eurasian animals or any cold temperate species tend to adapt pretty well to warm biomes. Mostly just a question to keep short fur and not more developping winter coats. As almost all introduced and invasive species of Eurasian origin thrive (for the best or the worse following the case) in their warmer introduced settings. As North American fauna during the Interchange spread on all over South America quickly, while South American fauna struggle because they weren't cold adapted a lot and because North American fauna cast have remained also pretty stable and unchange since ven before the land bridge formed. (in a complete stable and filled ecosystem, new animals will have problems to established). Sloths were able to thrive at North because they were able to resist extremely well to the cold thank to their slow and low metabolism, as well than occupying a niche than any other North American Herbivores had. So, since the Known World and Arvel as a whole is mainly Eurasian domination and the surviving South American representatives being less numerous in number, it will be more a statu quo rather than a complete reverse of the current situation.
From Keenan, Meridiungulata are pretty rare in the immediate known world, but outside it, in the forests of Ni’Khar and Northern Arvel, they are more present and diverses.
Someday I'm confident we will get us an armadillo sponsor! Eventually I'm going to start doing some unsponsored stuff (especially as I get more Patreon patrons and the videos get more in ad revenue) and armadillos are on my (admittedly very long) list.
@@TalesofKaimere Notosuchian are still present in great diversity on Kaimere, with some species that where on Kairul recently coming to the Known World. But I will have any expectation to see some Sebecid specifically. Except members from Cretaceous or the First Cenozoic South American after the Post-Dynastic one harvest legacies, Sebecid are unlikely to be present on Kaimere. At least whithin the Known World. At the time of the Late Miocene South American Harvest, there was only big sized specialist species such Barinasuchus that existed, no more small species.
I like to think that the Pakardiant Toxodonts, both the Woolly and the ‘normal’ ones, could eventually become a new species as they cross with each other You can decide whether this new species would shrink in size, become elephant-sized or medium-sized
Ever since I discovered the existence of toxodon, I loved it. Seeing one of my favorite prehistoric mammals in kaimere was a surprise, one I definitely didn't expect. Also, I realized a while ago that some creatures have developed "antlers" similar to those of elks, even though they are not from the same family as them. Pterosaurs, dinosaurs and even trilobites evolved these traits, but what made then evolve antlers, and especially the elk antler shape? Do they bring some additional benefit other than defense?
Thank you! Was very happy to include them. As I understand it, pronged horns have very little defensive benefit. Elk with large antlers for example will much rather flee predators than fight, and they use hooves as much if not more than antlers in a fight with predators. Much more for confrontation with other males, which I try to emphasize with animals that have such ornamentation in Kaimere. In some cases though, such as the kurajaku, the horns are for display and not meant to be used in combat.
I am excited to see the Byamdam. I wonder, do they fight like Capybaras? Capybaras are known for being calm animals, and while that is true they can be brutal when they fight each other. At least in captivity.
Funny you mention it: I illustrated such an encounter you'll get to enjoy in their episode! While called the All-Friend, male byamdan can be extremely violent in these encounters.
Thank you! I actually thought little about them until studying the portal and its context. My appreciation developed long after I decided to include them in the project. Similar with sloths.
It was reeally a WONDERFULL episode ! Giving love to this unique and fascinating creature that is Toxodon, one of the most famous Notoungulata, Meridiungulata/SANUS (South America Native Ungulates,), South America's prehistoric fauna and of the Cenozoic, along the Lipnoptern Macrauchenia ! (well, famous because we find MANY fossils of both, outside them, their respectives relatives and others Meridiungulata have not such fossils record representation and complete instead of scarce materials. Just simple as). As I said it in a F acce book* social account comment, I find your take on Toxodon very good ! Being very quite generic looking compared to others reconstructions, and being so odd and uncanny in appaearance in the same time ! And as it indeed was in real life. And I agree on what you said, to justly want it generic by nature. With a something vaguely ‘pachyderm’ look but without any horns, tusks, trunks, or aquatic adaptations of this non-natural group. A quintessential big beast. Despite having and being anything special physically speaking or in lifestyle, ecology, diet etc... its justly maybe for me and for plenty others people what made this animal so special, strange, uncanny and odd, see even fantastic. Since EVERY extant animals we see everyday directly or in books, television, and their extincts relatives, or even extincts animals which haven't extant representatives, all have something that attract the eyes on them or in their behavirors. (elephants have their trunk and tusk, zebras have a black-and-white striped pattern, lions have their manes etc...). Toxodon, itself, had completely nothing at all. And its very stunning and surprising how strong and far ironically that give to him so incredble and made him so popular. As an intro for the Meridiungulata and Cenozoic South America Golden Age fauna present on Kaimere, it was a very good and self-sufficient episode, and this was a extremely good choice to choose this specific animal among all others. This animal was really a successfull and long lived genus (11 mya to 12.000 kya, that not nothing), being extremely generalist in diet and habitats, and would have being still around if humans didn't invade South America (because while its debatable, see unlikely that humans were responsible for the megafauna extinction alla round the world at the end of Pleistocene, due to the animals themselves being adapted to humans since coexisting with them during all the period itself, South America and Australia fauna were butchered whithout any doubts main due to humans because they were isolated and as such never adapted to coexist alongside humans). Really, it was maybe a short quick episode, but this episode is still likely one of the best so far made on this channel ! * haven't writte the name normally, because suually, when you writte a comment with the name of a social account written in it, for god unknown reasons it dissapear. Which is more pissing off when you write a consequent comment.
Possibly, though probably not. These are quite derived after 6 million years in Kaimere. The garden and crescent species, for example, both require a lot of ferns in their diet that they would have a hard time finding on Earth. We have ferns of course, though not nearly as diverse or successful as on Kaimere. Since the woolly toxodon is much more of a dedicated grazer, they would likely do quite well.
Several dinosaur clades, and a lot of Asian clades from the harvest 12 mya. The North American and African clades during the mid-Miocene also had some reps though not as substantial as the Asian and South American clades
@@TalesofKaimere thanks for the answer also, could you do a video on potential eurypterid species in the known world or are they already fossil by modern day kaimere?
Nigel Marven would be extreemely pleased to visit Kaimere and made documentaries on it ! "Prehistoric Park", one of the "Walking With..." franchise docs in which Nigel appear as presenter, like "Chased by Dinosaurs" and "Sea Monsters", by its 4th episode, "Saving the Sabretooth", is the main and primary paleodoc media which display Toxodon, with a decent amount of screentime, and for a show which have one decade and an half old, the depiction of this animal it give is very accurate, close to reality, and even have hold up a lot to these days !
I only vaguely remember that show but wasn't their toxodon shown as a mostly aquatic animal? If so it's not consistent with modern interpretations, though I may be misremembering. I quite liked it and watched a couple times but that was very long ago.
@@TalesofKaimere Yes and No. Toxodon is depicted as a land animal, that can be dangerous as a rrhino, which even run pretty fast on good distances (when one chase Nigel on his jeep). Nigel watch a herd swimming in a waterpool indeed, but there any claims, as I remember, that Toxodon is semi-aquatic. And obviousely, the scene depict more some specimens swimming to cool and chill themselves against the heat, under the sun. Not because they are normally semi-aquatic. So, I think its still a good depiction, one of the best of the show filled by many obsoletes reconstructions, and even one of the best of the animal itself.
All are from Epidemic Sounds! You can also find most on RUclips. I put the title and artist in the text description of each episode if you want to track them down
One question: is the book illustrated? I bought it and I am waiting for it to arrive, I read the free version that had death walks on broken wings on kindle and it didn’t have art like in your videos, but it had the map at the start
Indeed it is not illustrated. I had originally intended it to but it would have made the book a lot more expensive. Might release some illustrated special editions but I wanted to keep the main books affordable
Not to take the wind out your sails, but that's the Assembly name. The humans of the Assembly know of the existence of tanks. Most Shu names more directly translate to armored or warrior jackal.
I find it so awesome ya managed to create entire families of creatures with so much variety!! How do ya create and how long do ya take to create families of animals? (As in avoiding burnout or comparison to other works when ya first made them) :D ?
Thank you! Creation time depends on a few factors. For these guys, I drew quite a few designs and went with these because I really liked the idea of a pretty nondescript 'big beast'. I experimented with tusks and horns to set them apart, but this concept was much more appealing. I'm not too worried about comparison. There are plenty of others doing projects like Kaimere but I focus on paleontology, nature, and mythology for inspiration. If other folks converge on similar designs, that's kind of inevitable and I guess it just isn't something I dwell on. As for avoiding burnout, I think I've just got so much variety of things I want to work on that I have yet to hit a wall of boredom. My only risk of burnout is just being tired from too much work.
@@TalesofKaimere wooooooaaahhh…. I’ll try what you mentioned for the first part (the multiple variations based on one idea), because thats also similar to what I do. I just take a name and a very brief description of a creature i see, and then just write my own creature from there (one could theoretically say its like how magic can warp a host XD) I’ll also do one you do by having a vast array of creatures to work on. I often face difficulty because I have long school days and schoolwork, and it greatly worries me that things arent coming up fast or I’m not at the same level as others whom I look up to. Thank you so much for the valuable advice Mr keenan!! I’ll do it!!
Way more excited about the Byamdan and somewhat Litopterns but good to see the Toxodon drawing finally get a video debut. I had a weird question inspired by the extinct Toxodont. Do you think a de-extinction type project would be more viable on Kaimere given the existence of magic? It would certainly be easier than on Earth.
Those two are fun. Especially had fun making the domesticate segment for the litopterns. As for de-extinction, possibly? There are no living witches with a level of mastery of First Children magic such that they could alter genetics, at least not at a level to de-extinct a species.
There are indeed. Don’t have much specifics yet will have to wait for a bovine episode to finalize the species but they are present. Not super abundant as there aren’t near as many grasslands as on Earth but they’re doing alright for themselves
Great video by the way it is possible to recreate toxodon by altering the DNA of rhinoceros is there a chance that this will work or am i wrong?i like cloning by the way it's a just an example
No. I imagine you could theoretically alter a rhino or horse to resemble their common ancestor though that is far beyond our current tech. You might be able to alter a horse or rhino to look like what we think a Toxodon looked like but it would not be really a Toxodon, just a guess.
Why did the vast majority of Earth Metatherian predators all perish (outside of really the Pouch Lions) while the Multituberculate predators still persist (almost dominate) on Kaimere outside the Known World?
Mostly down to timing and luck. Multis had very little competition so could get big alongside incoming therian predators and dinosaurs getting larger. In contrast, there were many therian predators that became established in the known world by the time Sparassodonts of the late Miocene were introduced. Not that they were bad at being predators so much as not being able to outcompete the resident predators. As for mid-Miocene sparassodonts 13 mya, they did great in the jungles but more cursorial Asian predators did better in the more open forests left by titanosaurs.
I heard from one research that the toxodonts were not perrisodactyls but afrotheians not saying facts were incorrect in the video, but what the information said. Also, what happened to the horned toxodonts, I saw images of some toxodonts having miniature horns like rhinos?
There's been a lot of debate around their phylogeny, but since the argument for afrotherians is morphological and evidence for a closer relationship to Perissodactyls is more supported by genetic studies, that seems much more likely. As I'm not a scientist and only studied these guys for an afternoon, I would not base your ideas on them from my one episode. I decided it was more interesting to have the distinguishing trait of my toxodonts being that they *don't* have a lot of distinguishing traits like horns or trunks.
Entirely fictional. There are mammals like platypus and many marsupials that have ultraviolet displays and most of their fur is not reflective, but that's not on the same level by any means.
Had to upload again since the first version had an audio editing error where it was way too loud for the first couple minutes. Apologies for the delay and I hope y'all enjoy!
Quality over quantity friend.
We all love what u do.
The idea of Toxodon being the platonic ideal “beast” rings so true. It’s like if you mixed an elephant, rhino, and hippo, then took away all the distinctive features of all those animals. Its main defining feature is that it has no defining features. It’s almost a crime that it’s scientific name isn’t just “Therium”.
Definitely! If that genus name is still open I may use it for the crescent beraphaunt (which may get a distinct genus due to being a lot more genetically distinct) that’s very funny
I agree with you 😆
Okay I lol’d 😂
@marshalmarrs3269I think it's meant to be a mix of bear and elephant might be wrong tho
Just a dude. Just a lil guy. Just a beast being a beast
I remember the scene from Nigel Marven's Prehistoric Park when he travels back to Miocene South America, and ends up on a wild jeep ride as he ends up driving right through a whole herd of Toxodon! The naturalist explained Charles Darwin's interest in this animal, who thought it resembled Sirenians, but the way they were shown, they seem to be like South American hippos, with an attitude to match.
BTW, like the music of this one!
Thanks! I really gotta rewatch that show!
Glad to see the toxodonts are doing fairly well.
The Notoungulates are one of my favorite extinct animal groups, mainly due to their sheer diversity in sizes.
Ranging from small, lagomorph-like animals such as Pachyrhukos or Hegetotherium, to beasts as big as rhinos, such as Toxodon, Mixotoxodon, and Trigodon, among others.
Absolutely! The clade is absolutely fascinating. Got quite a few smaller species planned that I wasn't able to get around to for this episode but have a cameo later this month.
Glad to see underatted creatures like these on kaimere.Right next to dr polaris episode on toxodonts yesterday.What a convicident.
Right? Was amused by the coincidence
Great video and a true coincidence!
@@dr.polaris6423you goated, when you making that elasmarian video?
@@TalesofKaimereaye man, how do you keep track of everything? Been working on a spec world, but it feels too overwhelming to keep track of notes and taking notes on the computer is difficult for me, any advice?
Whenever I hear about the Qajar Peninsula, it makes me want to know about all the species that were found there, and what animals survived the culling caused by the First Children
I think everything from the size of a White-Tailed Deer to bigger and every carnivores able to attack livestocks where exterminated.
Animals of these two categories seen in modern Qajar are species which came after from the mainland Arvel, by crossing the wall or swimming the short part of seas waters separating Qajar from Arvel.
With some species from the Last Natural Harvest, as well, than some artificial introductions by Kaimeran.
I know this is a shorter episode but to me it's no less fascinating nice to see some of the more obscure south american animals getting s spot light. While perhaps not as successful as sloths they are still quite a great beast and honestly the name Kaimerans give them is quite logical.
Sloth, Armadillos and Anteaters are very diverses and numerous and survived as if that was nothing thank to their slow metabolism which made them resilients to cold temperatures and food density loss.
Typical metabolism animals haven't such advantage.
This South American mega fauna special is wonderful, I can’t wait for the next one!
Thank you! They deserve it!
The back ground music is so trippy lol 😭
I see the wooly beraphaunt and I want to hug it! It’s so floofy!!!
They resemble something like a half remembered cartoon monster/beast. Like something I drew as a kid to represent a big monster but has been lost to the decades. Something about the form of these creatures inspires a nostalgic happiness in me.
My first thought was: plow/farm beast, but I suppose they are too skittish for that.
Absolutely what I was going for! Something generic with Sesame Street sort of vibes lol
Can’t say I expected to see a Woolly Toxodon. The White Cockatrice sounds like a scary foe to deal with. I didn’t know Toxodons could be agile.
Indeed! I was also pretty surprised to see the studies supporting a high degree of speed and agility, though considering hippos and rhinos are of a similar build and also a lot faster and more nimble than they look, I suppose I shouldn't be surprised. Toxodonts also have had a long history of dealing with ambush predators, and evading that initial attack, so investing more in agility and burst of speed rather than raw power or enduring speed makes sense in their context.
I'm so glad there was a harvest of South American creatures from the Miocene.
Heck yeah! So many cool creatures we missed out on.
Would have been interesting to see Toxodonts today.
Absolutely! An often overlooked yet very fascinating genus
As someone currently putting together a spec evo dark fantasy setting, you work is really quite inspiring and you should keep up the good work!
Thanks so much, and best of luck on your endeavors!
This episode made my day. I'm glad to see them recovering from what wiped out most of proboscideans. Tbh? I'm very excited for this series of the Survivors of the South American harvest.
So glad to hear it!
I love the name beraphaunt for the toxodons (bear elephant, that's just perfect)! Kinda sums up what they are in a way. Also can't wait for the byamdan episode. Looks like they're going to be kaimere's capybara equivalent.
I love Notoungulates, they are some of my favorite species with such distinctive features and diversity in appearance and niche. I’m very glad they survive on Kaimere and thrive, Toxodons should have by all accounts survived to the present, many made it to Texas and survived as recently as potentially just 5,000 years ago.
Notoungulates and litopterns are the closest clade to perissodactyls
An amazing start to December with some of South America's most notable megafauna! Still sad my beloved sparassodonts didn't make it (I really was hoping evolving alongside large theropods and other archosaurs might have given them a context advantage).
All the same, I love seeing Litopterns and Notoungulates get their due!
I haven't written them off entirely, just didn't have much success in modern times. Notoungulates are doing great and litopterns have at least two modern genera!
@TalesofKaimere Ah, I gotcha! I'm definitely interested in their story, as for a long time I didn't know pre-Isthmus South America had large native mammal predators. Learning about them as well as the sebecids was a welcomed surprise to my favorite cenozoic continent!
I'm looking forward to the litoptern episode next!
In kaimere there are all kinds of mythological creatures adapted to be as realistic as possible such as: dragons, cockatrice, jomurgand among many others, I wonder if there is some kind of "sky whale" It's unlikely, but I thought about this possibility as it would be very unusual.
There is a sky ecosystem of native Kaimeran organisms, and there are some magical creatures that specialize in feeding on the swarms of aeroplankton. Only a couple meters and look more like balloon animals than a proper sky whale, but it's as close as we get!
@@TalesofKaimere Damn, so there's an ocean in Kaimere's skies?! This is crazy, I can't wait to see a video about this ecosystem in the future.
I recently watched a video about this guys. It warms my heart to see them doing well, even it is only in Kaimere
Notoungulates are another of the countless examples of parallel evolution (with perissodactyls in this case) amazingly experimented by Nature. Another marvelous travel on Kaimere ❤👍👍👍
I love the music you choose for this video. It truly give chilling sensations. Fitting with such an odd, weird, hippo-like yet fascinating animal that Toxodon is !
once again... great choice of music
very bouncy beat
I got quite excited when I found it. A fun little bop
Toxodons look like they're the default big mammal if that makes any sense
Absolutely was what I was going for. Wanted something that their most distinguishing traits was being generic. No horns, tusks, trunks, or other flair. Something you look at and think well... sure is a big beast. Being generic isn't their flaw, it's their feature lol
Another fantastic episode! Glad to see that both Notoungulates and Liptopterns are doing quite well for themselves. Overall it’s just very exciting to see the spot light given to South American Cenozoic mammals.
Absolutely! So often South American megafauna are presented as inevitable losers in a competition between themselves and the north, while overlooking the fact that South America got hit way harder by the changing climate in the buildup to the interchange so they basically got kicked while they were down. Kaimere, being much more welcoming to tropical fauna, showed much more kindness to South American fauna compared to their eurasian counterparts. While there's more biodiversity of Eurasian fauna due to bias of more recent harvests, it's reasonable to think that over time, they will be relegated to the fringes and tropical clades will have more success down the road.
@@TalesofKaimere I would personnaly say that it will be a 50/50.
Eurasian animals or any cold temperate species tend to adapt pretty well to warm biomes. Mostly just a question to keep short fur and not more developping winter coats.
As almost all introduced and invasive species of Eurasian origin thrive (for the best or the worse following the case) in their warmer introduced settings.
As North American fauna during the Interchange spread on all over South America quickly, while South American fauna struggle because they weren't cold adapted a lot and because North American fauna cast have remained also pretty stable and unchange since ven before the land bridge formed.
(in a complete stable and filled ecosystem, new animals will have problems to established).
Sloths were able to thrive at North because they were able to resist extremely well to the cold thank to their slow and low metabolism, as well than occupying a niche than any other North American Herbivores had.
So, since the Known World and Arvel as a whole is mainly Eurasian domination and the surviving South American representatives being less numerous in number, it will be more a statu quo rather than a complete reverse of the current situation.
From Keenan, Meridiungulata are pretty rare in the immediate known world, but outside it, in the forests of Ni’Khar and Northern Arvel, they are more present and diverses.
Hope we can see the kaimerean armadillos! The tank jackal looked fierce
Someday I'm confident we will get us an armadillo sponsor! Eventually I'm going to start doing some unsponsored stuff (especially as I get more Patreon patrons and the videos get more in ad revenue) and armadillos are on my (admittedly very long) list.
Guessing poor old Barinasuchus et al missed that Miocene boat
They got on the boat but couldn't pay the megaraptoran tax
They’ve really Kurujak’d up the prices recently
@@TalesofKaimere Notosuchian are still present in great diversity on Kaimere, with some species that where on Kairul recently coming to the Known World.
But I will have any expectation to see some Sebecid specifically. Except members from Cretaceous or the First Cenozoic South American after the Post-Dynastic one harvest legacies, Sebecid are unlikely to be present on Kaimere.
At least whithin the Known World.
At the time of the Late Miocene South American Harvest, there was only big sized specialist species such Barinasuchus that existed, no more small species.
The problem with this series is every episode makes me go 'oh, this is my new favorite critter'.
My honest reaction when keenan Say that the sparassodonts are extinct in kaimere: *cry inside*
I like to think that the Pakardiant Toxodonts, both the Woolly and the ‘normal’ ones, could eventually become a new species as they cross with each other
You can decide whether this new species would shrink in size, become elephant-sized or medium-sized
Ever since I discovered the existence of toxodon, I loved it. Seeing one of my favorite prehistoric mammals in kaimere was a surprise, one I definitely didn't expect. Also, I realized a while ago that some creatures have developed "antlers" similar to those of elks, even though they are not from the same family as them. Pterosaurs, dinosaurs and even trilobites evolved these traits, but what made then evolve antlers, and especially the elk antler shape? Do they bring some additional benefit other than defense?
Thank you! Was very happy to include them.
As I understand it, pronged horns have very little defensive benefit. Elk with large antlers for example will much rather flee predators than fight, and they use hooves as much if not more than antlers in a fight with predators. Much more for confrontation with other males, which I try to emphasize with animals that have such ornamentation in Kaimere. In some cases though, such as the kurajaku, the horns are for display and not meant to be used in combat.
Hell! I like a good standard beast! And toxodons are some of the best!
I am excited to see the Byamdam. I wonder, do they fight like Capybaras? Capybaras are known for being calm animals, and while that is true they can be brutal when they fight each other. At least in captivity.
Funny you mention it: I illustrated such an encounter you'll get to enjoy in their episode! While called the All-Friend, male byamdan can be extremely violent in these encounters.
@@TalesofKaimeresounds fun.
Didn't manage to catch the original upload, but still pretty early for the reupload, NOICE!
You are better for having missed it haha. Was absolutely deafening
@@TalesofKaimere Getting Earblasted is a small price to pay to witness Spec Kino.
I must say it an impressive episode I think Toxodons are your favourite animals from prehistoric times also can't wait for these creatures to unleash
Thank you! I actually thought little about them until studying the portal and its context. My appreciation developed long after I decided to include them in the project. Similar with sloths.
Anxiously waiting for an episode on Kaimere geology and geomorphology
I've got plenty already laid out so would definitely be an interesting episode!
Like 12 people would watch it and the algorithm would take it nowhere but I'd have fun all the same
It was reeally a WONDERFULL episode ! Giving love to this unique and fascinating creature that is Toxodon, one of the most famous Notoungulata, Meridiungulata/SANUS (South America Native Ungulates,), South America's prehistoric fauna and of the Cenozoic, along the Lipnoptern Macrauchenia ! (well, famous because we find MANY fossils of both, outside them, their respectives relatives and others Meridiungulata have not such fossils record representation and complete instead of scarce materials. Just simple as).
As I said it in a F acce book* social account comment, I find your take on Toxodon very good !
Being very quite generic looking compared to others reconstructions, and being so odd and uncanny in appaearance in the same time !
And as it indeed was in real life.
And I agree on what you said, to justly want it generic by nature. With a something vaguely ‘pachyderm’ look but without any horns, tusks, trunks, or aquatic adaptations of this non-natural group. A quintessential big beast.
Despite having and being anything special physically speaking or in lifestyle, ecology, diet etc... its justly maybe for me and for plenty others people what made this animal so special, strange, uncanny and odd, see even fantastic.
Since EVERY extant animals we see everyday directly or in books, television, and their extincts relatives, or even extincts animals which haven't extant representatives, all have something that attract the eyes on them or in their behavirors.
(elephants have their trunk and tusk, zebras have a black-and-white striped pattern, lions have their manes etc...).
Toxodon, itself, had completely nothing at all. And its very stunning and surprising how strong and far ironically that give to him so incredble and made him so popular.
As an intro for the Meridiungulata and Cenozoic South America Golden Age fauna present on Kaimere, it was a very good and self-sufficient episode, and this was a extremely good choice to choose this specific animal among all others.
This animal was really a successfull and long lived genus (11 mya to 12.000 kya, that not nothing), being extremely generalist in diet and habitats, and would have being still around if humans didn't invade South America (because while its debatable, see unlikely that humans were responsible for the megafauna extinction alla round the world at the end of Pleistocene, due to the animals themselves being adapted to humans since coexisting with them during all the period itself, South America and Australia fauna were butchered whithout any doubts main due to humans because they were isolated and as such never adapted to coexist alongside humans).
Really, it was maybe a short quick episode, but this episode is still likely one of the best so far made on this channel !
* haven't writte the name normally, because suually, when you writte a comment with the name of a social account written in it, for god unknown reasons it dissapear. Which is more pissing off when you write a consequent comment.
Did any of the Sebecid land Crocs make it from south America?
Not any in the modern day. (As far as Keenan has disclosed.)
I do have a tentative plan but I'm not in a position to go into any details at this time
Hi, do you think that Toxodon could be reintroduced to South America to replace their extinct relatives that lived during the Pleistocene?
Possibly, though probably not. These are quite derived after 6 million years in Kaimere. The garden and crescent species, for example, both require a lot of ferns in their diet that they would have a hard time finding on Earth. We have ferns of course, though not nearly as diverse or successful as on Kaimere. Since the woolly toxodon is much more of a dedicated grazer, they would likely do quite well.
Hope the next one is about pinapadies(seal and sea lions 🦭)
The next two are about other South American animals
The litopterns and the Byamdan, a large dinomyid rodent.
@@beastmaster0934 I’m saying after those 2
Its Pinniped, not pinapadies.
Yeah,that thing is the perfect definition of the word "beast"
A large,lightly furred greyish animal,no real notable features,just beast
The beast ever. I wouldn't have it any other way.
Aside from South American fauna, what other creatures were common and successful during the anchored period?
Several dinosaur clades, and a lot of Asian clades from the harvest 12 mya. The North American and African clades during the mid-Miocene also had some reps though not as substantial as the Asian and South American clades
Eeee! The backround music🎉
Nice episode, wonderful as always
I wonder what the allosaurs from the Jurassic harvest evolved into in their time or today?
Thank you!
Allosaurus specifically has been found in the Kaimeran fossil record, though it doesn't seem they diverged too much.
@@TalesofKaimere thanks for the answer also, could you do a video on potential eurypterid species in the known world or are they already fossil by modern day kaimere?
@@ThemagpieBird734 That particular clade is extinct.
Nigel Marven would be extreemely pleased to visit Kaimere and made documentaries on it !
"Prehistoric Park", one of the "Walking With..." franchise docs in which Nigel appear as presenter, like "Chased by Dinosaurs" and "Sea Monsters", by its 4th episode, "Saving the Sabretooth", is the main and primary paleodoc media which display Toxodon, with a decent amount of screentime, and for a show which have one decade and an half old, the depiction of this animal it give is very accurate, close to reality, and even have hold up a lot to these days !
I only vaguely remember that show but wasn't their toxodon shown as a mostly aquatic animal? If so it's not consistent with modern interpretations, though I may be misremembering. I quite liked it and watched a couple times but that was very long ago.
@@TalesofKaimere Yes and No.
Toxodon is depicted as a land animal, that can be dangerous as a rrhino, which even run pretty fast on good distances (when one chase Nigel on his jeep).
Nigel watch a herd swimming in a waterpool indeed, but there any claims, as I remember, that Toxodon is semi-aquatic.
And obviousely, the scene depict more some specimens swimming to cool and chill themselves against the heat, under the sun.
Not because they are normally semi-aquatic.
So, I think its still a good depiction, one of the best of the show filled by many obsoletes reconstructions, and even one of the best of the animal itself.
please tell me where to find the intro songs they are all awesome
All are from Epidemic Sounds! You can also find most on RUclips. I put the title and artist in the text description of each episode if you want to track them down
@@TalesofKaimere nice
audio in the intro is a lot better now
Yeah that was rough I'm glad it was an easy fix
One question: is the book illustrated? I bought it and I am waiting for it to arrive, I read the free version that had death walks on broken wings on kindle and it didn’t have art like in your videos, but it had the map at the start
Indeed it is not illustrated. I had originally intended it to but it would have made the book a lot more expensive. Might release some illustrated special editions but I wanted to keep the main books affordable
@@TalesofKaimere thank you for the information
The Tank Jackal implies Kaimerians know about the existence of tanks.
Not to take the wind out your sails, but that's the Assembly name. The humans of the Assembly know of the existence of tanks. Most Shu names more directly translate to armored or warrior jackal.
I find it so awesome ya managed to create entire families of creatures with so much variety!! How do ya create and how long do ya take to create families of animals? (As in avoiding burnout or comparison to other works when ya first made them) :D ?
Thank you! Creation time depends on a few factors. For these guys, I drew quite a few designs and went with these because I really liked the idea of a pretty nondescript 'big beast'. I experimented with tusks and horns to set them apart, but this concept was much more appealing. I'm not too worried about comparison. There are plenty of others doing projects like Kaimere but I focus on paleontology, nature, and mythology for inspiration. If other folks converge on similar designs, that's kind of inevitable and I guess it just isn't something I dwell on. As for avoiding burnout, I think I've just got so much variety of things I want to work on that I have yet to hit a wall of boredom. My only risk of burnout is just being tired from too much work.
@@TalesofKaimere wooooooaaahhh…. I’ll try what you mentioned for the first part (the multiple variations based on one idea), because thats also similar to what I do. I just take a name and a very brief description of a creature i see, and then just write my own creature from there (one could theoretically say its like how magic can warp a host XD)
I’ll also do one you do by having a vast array of creatures to work on. I often face difficulty because I have long school days and schoolwork, and it greatly worries me that things arent coming up fast or I’m not at the same level as others whom I look up to.
Thank you so much for the valuable advice Mr keenan!! I’ll do it!!
good show
It’s nice to see this creature is doing well no secretive cats to eat them.
Way more excited about the Byamdan and somewhat Litopterns but good to see the Toxodon drawing finally get a video debut.
I had a weird question inspired by the extinct Toxodont. Do you think a de-extinction type project would be more viable on Kaimere given the existence of magic? It would certainly be easier than on Earth.
Those two are fun. Especially had fun making the domesticate segment for the litopterns. As for de-extinction, possibly? There are no living witches with a level of mastery of First Children magic such that they could alter genetics, at least not at a level to de-extinct a species.
Love the vid & quick question are there any cows or buffalo on Kaimere ?
There are indeed. Don’t have much specifics yet will have to wait for a bovine episode to finalize the species but they are present. Not super abundant as there aren’t near as many grasslands as on Earth but they’re doing alright for themselves
Well I’ll be looking forward to that episode when it drops
Great video by the way it is possible to recreate toxodon by altering the DNA of rhinoceros is there a chance that this will work or am i wrong?i like cloning by the way it's a just an example
No. I imagine you could theoretically alter a rhino or horse to resemble their common ancestor though that is far beyond our current tech. You might be able to alter a horse or rhino to look like what we think a Toxodon looked like but it would not be really a Toxodon, just a guess.
SUPER NICE
Why did the vast majority of Earth Metatherian predators all perish (outside of really the Pouch Lions) while the Multituberculate predators still persist (almost dominate) on Kaimere outside the Known World?
Mostly down to timing and luck. Multis had very little competition so could get big alongside incoming therian predators and dinosaurs getting larger. In contrast, there were many therian predators that became established in the known world by the time Sparassodonts of the late Miocene were introduced. Not that they were bad at being predators so much as not being able to outcompete the resident predators. As for mid-Miocene sparassodonts 13 mya, they did great in the jungles but more cursorial Asian predators did better in the more open forests left by titanosaurs.
Truly, the creatures ever
Ok I love the music I sound it comes from FRIENDS
Honestly, more notoungulates would always be nice lol
Wait why did you repost the same video?
Because the audio of the first version had a significant error
So it seems that December belongs to South America fauna.
It sure does! Right until the end, that is. Then it belongs to the uktan.
No one expects the Uktan Inquisition!@@TalesofKaimere
Birthday Toxodons!
South American animals my beloved
Toxodonts were great, its a bit of a crime we dont have them anymore
Yo another episode
I heard from one research that the toxodonts were not perrisodactyls but afrotheians not saying facts were incorrect in the video, but what the information said.
Also, what happened to the horned toxodonts, I saw images of some toxodonts having miniature horns like rhinos?
There's been a lot of debate around their phylogeny, but since the argument for afrotherians is morphological and evidence for a closer relationship to Perissodactyls is more supported by genetic studies, that seems much more likely. As I'm not a scientist and only studied these guys for an afternoon, I would not base your ideas on them from my one episode.
I decided it was more interesting to have the distinguishing trait of my toxodonts being that they *don't* have a lot of distinguishing traits like horns or trunks.
How do they coexist with rhinos, and hippos in their habitat?
It seems meridiungulates weren’t able to adapt to houze and whatever leafing plants followed.
Indeed
Wait, is the "anti-UV" thing real?
As far as I'm aware it's a bit of speculation that Mr. Taylor came up with, but you'll have to wait for him to respond to be sure.
Entirely fictional. There are mammals like platypus and many marsupials that have ultraviolet displays and most of their fur is not reflective, but that's not on the same level by any means.
Were Sparassodonts harvested and did any make it into modern Kaimere
They were harvested. Probably didn’t make it to modern times
“Probably” 😉
South American mastoids?
Did Toxodon itself the last toxodont of Kaimere?
Probably
@@TalesofKaimere is the crescent beraphaunt the toxodonts that were mentioned to have been out competed by the forest gomphotheres
the *B E A S T*
THEBEASTEVER
So much south american megafauna🎉
How did the Crescent beraphaunt survive oliphaunts?
Different food and habitat
So they were the toxodonts that were outcompeted by the oilphaunts
Is it me or they look derpy
They do indeed lol
@@TalesofKaimere 😖
God bless
ah exist an umderground cave ecosystem in the unknowm world. Relaying on chemotrophy or magictrophy, because of the absence of light?
I do have some fun plans for cave ecosystems.
Y’know it’s kind of a shame South America didn’t remain an island continent.
Indeed. Would have been quite interesting to see
700th like!
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poi!
When have you planed on relaesing kaimere bestiary ?
Need to wait for the known world to be finished. Probably not for at least another year or two
Why did you need a whole year is it because of the amounts of creatures or the complexity
Fantastic Art and Amazing video as always!! :) 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 ❤️💖❤️💖