Games that Push Hardware Limits 2 - Game Sack
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- Episode 130 - Let's take a look at more games that seem to do more than you might think a certain platform would be able to do!
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Joe, Dave, thanks for giving us a bit of retro-happiness every other week.
This thing you do, it means a lot for some of us, and even when going through Dark times, you help us get through the night.
Thanks a million from this fan.
Carlos Vásquez Glad we can provide something you enjoy. :)
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Totally agreed. this show has slowly become one of my favorites, which is odd. I have no idea why this show I have slowly grown to like more and more where others I either immediately like or dislike. I think it's the consistency that you guys have as well as getting to know your individual personalities. I think you guys also manage to tackle games that are outside the normal purview of what people tend to feature on these sites. I especially like it when you hit Japanese games or obscure imports.
Game Sack Agreed, I watch this when a new episode comes out and look forward to it like TV shows. Nice job Game Sack.
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who needs TV when theres Gamesack. You guys are awesome
Ikr
I'm watching this on my tv
We used to play Tekken 5 in 480p 16:9 on our (big for the time) 32" HDTV with our good arcade controller pads and save a hell of a lot of quarters.. Awesome memories.....
In case the viewers didn't know there is an excellent bonus comedy skit, an easter egg of sorts at the end of the video. You guys always catch me off guard and make me laugh out loud. Keep up the good work
Game sack is easily becoming my fav channel
8-Bit Eric Shhh. Let me get my popcorn and enjoy my alone moment. ;)
Game Sack is awesome. Someday they will beat that Pie d00d. xD
8-Bit Eric only gaming channel I watch these days. Everybody else is the exact same.
8-Bit Eric I hear ya!! I don't understand why they aren't more popular.
Play something besides Nintendo shit bro.
Westapo Six six six
Probably because most Kids are into phone games or at best into CoD, but not into retro stuff ? Besides 100.000 views every episode ain't half bad for a special interest channel.
"I don't ever remember seeing any other NES game doing this."
...What about Battletoads? The last stage did that same sort of 3D tower thing. Though admittedly, since it was the last stage, few ever saw it. ;)
Wyrdwad Or even the third stage..
Wyrdwad I knew someone else would remember!
because no one has ever gotten that far. lol
gunswordfist
Strangely enough, I never had any problems with the third stage as a kid. I could beat the Turbo Tunnel pretty consistently, and actually kind of enjoyed it! Maybe I was a masochistic child, I dunno. ;)
The stage that always slipped me up was the snakes. I did beat the snakes a few times, but that was uuuusually where my game would come to an end. And in Battletoads in Battlemaniacs on the SNES, that was ALWAYS where my game would come to an end. Try as I might, I never once beat the snake stage in that game.
Wyrdwad
...you beat the Speeder Bike race in both games? What kind of animal are you? lol I think I'll youtube the snake levels because I'll never reach them myself.
$1.5k for a game that crashes? Take my money!
So glad to see Dave's smashed Game Boy (kind of) patched up!
Digitized voice in video games has always been a fascination of mine, dating back to my early experiences with Wizard of Wor, GORF, and the Gorgar pinball machine. We tend to take voice for granted now, but back in the 80s and early 90s-- before CD-ROM tech-- hearing voice in home video game systems was really cool to me.
SEGA's Sports Talk tech was some of my favorite use of voice in the 16-bit era; as a sports fan, hearing legitimate play-by-play for baseball and football was really cool. (Sadly, no hockey.) While the announcer did fall behind the pace of the games at times, the emotion was just over-the-top enough to excite and it added another dimension of realism to a genre of games that was always looking to be closer to the actual events themselves.
Thanks for another great episode-- and for teaching me what "interlacing" is. (Yeah, I could have looked it up, but this was better.) Hopefully Joe's bumps & bruises from the Great Console Revolt heal up soon. ;)
Atari 2600 "Solaris" could be the most console-pushing game ever. Remember that it's on a system that was designed to play stuff like "Combat" and "Breakout."
Another Saturday at midnight, another Game Sack!
Zone of The Enders 2 and Return of The Joker on the NES pushed the hardware to its absolute limits. Great episode!
Those end-of-show skits just keep getting better and better!
I was just as excited as everyone else when I saw a new Game Sack! This channel is awesome!
Also, as a musician, I am VERY impressed with your ability to point out difference in audio such as the Street Fighter example.
GamerNRetro Thanks!
GamerNRetro Yeah. I was impressed as well. But given the limitations, some developers were very talented when it came to sound. I know the Genesis can do voices well. I like the music from alot of the games.
GamerNRetro Game Sack Speaking of audio/music, the soundtrack to The Adventures of Batman & Robin on the Genesis might be a good mention in part 3 ;)
GamerNRetro I love this too! My auditory system sucks when it comes to discerning what is truly distinctive among similar sounds.
There is a Sega VST that has an option to make the voices really crackly like the Genesis. I find it odd that people would like to do that.
I'm so glad you mentioned Stunt Race FX! That was (and still is) a favorite of mine. I put so many hours into it trying to beat my dad's lap times!
Here's a fun fact that song in the Intro to Tales of Phantasia is actually called The Dream Will Never Die or in Japanese " Yume-wa Owaranai". Sung by famed Japanese pop song icon Yukari Yoshida. As a matter of fact it became such a hit they even released the song as single album but only in its native Japan. The more you know.
If I get a notification on my phone a Game Sack video has been uploaded I almost rush to watch it. I do not do this with ANYONE else. Keep up the great work guys!
If there's ever gonna be a 'best youtube leader' you guys are going to win it hands down. Great music, well made and short. Yours is the only intro I never skip because I enjoy it.
Jck H'm Cool, Thanks!
Jck H'm Totally agreed, I love their intro! Short, to the point, and instantly recognizable. Basically perfect!
Another game that pushes the system's limits is Toy Story on the Sega Genesis. There's one level where Woody is putting the Squeeze Toy Aliens back in the rocket ship in a first person perspective. Sure it came out really late in the Genesis life cycle (1996), but it still looks really impressive.
You guys are really good with stop motion. Perhaps both of you could make a movie
I'm from Argentina and I must say this is the greatest retro game channel on RUclips. Love your work guys. I'm always waiting for your new videos. Keep up the good job and keep being so awesome.
Luciano Pagnuco i'm also from Argentina! Yeah this channel along with Digital Foundry Retro are the most awesome video game channels in RUclips!!
I'm so glad you mentioned Star Ocean and Tales. Star Ocean also had the biggest cart at 48mbits
George Moore Tales was the same size!
George Moore Those were the two games I watched this episode to see featured. I was not disappointed.
Game Sack Don't forget Doom 3, or Ninja Gaiden.They both pushed the limits of the Eks Bawlks. Two of my favorite games.
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I wasn't aware Tales also used the 48 Mb cart setup. That's really cool. No doubt the voicing took up a sizable chunk of that space.
***** Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay too
An exceptional episodes, guys! It ran at a constant frame rate, with no slowdown! Granted Dave flickered a little, but that's just to be expected!
First digitized voice I remember hearing: "BLADES OF STEEL!"
“Face off! It’s a pass! It’s a pass! It’s pass! It’s a pass! It’s a pass! Fight!”
im bad. lol
I've been playing Yoshi's Island since 1995, and Mario's crying never bothered me much. It was there to make me move my ass quicker to get Mario back.
wildsmiley LoL. That's so true what genius game design making you scramble like crazy to shut that crying up.
David White Yep. Great Colorado Native Nintendo Fanboys think alike. :)
wildsmiley Lol I find that crying so annoying I HAVE to do something to shut him up!
wildsmiley ...because if you didn't move, he would continue to wail. Your logic makes no sense. If his crying makes you want to pick him up faster, it definitely is there to annoy you.
wildsmiley Haha yeah that's what's called negative reinforcement - when you do what the game wants you to do, it removes something unpleasant! Like the seatbelt alarm in your car: "If you put on your seatbelt, I'll make this super annoying DING DING DING sound go away!"
There is also VORTEX for the SNES. It also use the Super FX chip, although not any people know about it. Using 100% 3D polygons, it's a shooter which allow you to transforms into four different vechicles. The soundtrack is amazing too.
Honestly, I do not understand 90% of the technical stuff you guys talk about, but I do enjoy watching it. Learn something new every episode.
Am I the only one who keeps replaying all their videos when I want to relieve stress from work? :)
MrMekmek29 Agreed. I watch this on my breaks and lunch hour. :)
Quake 2 for PSX is a outstanding Port!
and again thanks Joe and Dave for another half hour videogame goodness! Greetings from Germany!
Superb episode! Any chance of you gnarly dudes ever covering modern retro-style games? Shantae, Shovel Knight, Mutant Mudds, Retro-City Rampage and the likes? I'd be really interested in seeimg you guys' take on them, potentially even comparing them to the games that inspired them!
Wykesidefruitmachine Oh yeah we've been thinking about that one for a while.
David White Awesome! You're the man Dave. Keep on Sackin'!
Wykesidefruitmachine Thanks and Thanks for watching!!
+Cochegara if you have not given Shovel Knight a chance, you really owe it to yourself to do so
Sweet, "Games that Push Hardware Limits" was my favorite episode!
What I like about you guys is that you guys are very technical when it comes to describing games. Like, all the hardwares and chips and stuffs. Even learned a bit about interlacing, which I never knew till now
U never saw that effect on NES in any other game then Kirby? How about last stage in BattleToads? Oh.. w8... last stage? Oh, I get it now.
@LordWhis its an old joke that references the fact that Battletoads is so hard that not everyone reaches the end
*than (comparison)
This is my favorite show on YT along with The gaming historian and HVGN(but hes hardly making any videos nowadays). Thank you guys for hours upon hours of entertainment, and I re watched your episodes ALOT.
*he's
*rewatched
*a LOT (two words, not one)
Happy video game nerd is now stop skeletons from fighting
Awesome one guys! My brother got me a Game Sack shirt for my birthday last month (the same one Joe is wearing after the credits). And the first day i wore it i scored a Dreamcast arcade pad controller at a garage sale for $2! You should market your shirts as lucky!
"Think you could get it inside mine?" - One of the greatest moments in video game history. Can't forget a game named "S.C.A.T." too.
how about recording at 60 fps so we can experience the power of frames
Awsomeisimo I like games at 60fps but I don't like videos at 60fps. I know, I'm weird. :)
the glorious pc master race does
Game Sack I'm the same way. There's a video somewhere explaining the difference between video and gameplay fps.
yeah that's right i guess its just smoother
Let me find it...there is a difference. I prefer the standard when watching videos, but faster fps when playing video games.
Oh Dave, there's no shame in liking Stunt Race FX, I quite like it as well.
One PS2 game that I think really pushes the hardware is Hitman: Blood Money, especially the Mardi Gras level that has tons of NPCs roaming around in the streets.
When I saw ZAS on the Game Boy I was like "HOLY S***... Overlapping parallax scrolling on the Game Boy? How is that even possible??"
This game looks sooo good for the GB, I'm very impressed!
I love that little comment made by Joe. "Jackass the game, of all things."
These lists need Vectorman and Virtua Racing on genesis. Those games both pushed the genesis pretty hard (I was amazed to see the 2 player mode for Virtua Racing played smoothly !).
Awesome! I catch the upload pretty quick! I've been watching a bunch of episodes of your show. I love it!
SMB3 and Kirby used add on chips as well in their cartridges to improve their graphics on the NES. This means Starfox, StuntRace, Doom and Yoshi's Island using the FX chip would not be classified as cheating; same with Virtua Racing's 3d chip on the Genesis.
Actually there was a good number of SNES games as well that used various enhancement chips to get past the limitations of the system.
Not quite. The NES didn’t allow for additional processors to be addressed from a cart. What you’re referring to on NES carts are memory mappers. They just help shuffle around data and chop it into the bite-sized pieces that the NES can manage.
Megaman x2 and x3 also used a chip for some 3d effects
You guys really did great man, another great episode!
now where is the GBA, and the original Xbox ?
ProtoMario exactly right! This was a kickass video!
the Cybertronian Peacekeeper from Kaon Xbox has no one good game, period.
Paulo nh I disagree, Doom 3 looked so amazing at the time of its creation. At it's E3 presentation the creators had to tell the audience that what they were seeing wasn't CG but actual gameplay.
The Faux Persona do you know the meaning of the word "joke"? of course XBox has some good games, but can't compare with PS2 or PS3 YoLo
My picks for games that push their platforms:
Neo-Geo -
Metal Slug 3 (amazingly detailed pixel art, huge bosses, and almost no slowdown)
SNES -
Donkey Kong Country (great pre-rendered animations on the characters, many people thought it was utilizing an FX chip, which it wasn't).
PS2 -
God of War 2 (already discussed. Huge detailed environments)
PS Vita -
Killzone Mercenary (Playing this on the PSTV one might mistake this for a PS3 game at first glance. It's hard to believe it's a portable game!)
Xbox -
Wreckless: The Yakuza Missions (For a launch title the game still holds up. It utilizes a lot of neat filters and camera effects.)
Atari Lynx -
S.T.U.N. Runner (awesome and authentic arcade port programmed using the arcade source code.)
Genesis -
Aladdin (the animation still holds up well)
PS3 -
The Last of Us and Uncharted 3 push the system beyond what many people thought was possible.
As far as high quality music on the SNES I recommend these:
Plok (Tim & Geoff Follin)
Spider-Man vs Xmen (Tim Follin)
DKC (David Wise)
Super Bomberman 4 & 5 (SFC)
Actraiser (Yuzo)
Super Adventure Island (Yuzo)
Final Fantasy II
F-Zero X also had an expandsion pack on the N64-DD addon, the addon was cancelled and only released in japan but the F-Zero X expansion pack was pretty much finished. it allowed you to make your CUSTOM TRACKS AND VEHICLES!
Then it was not canceled u fucking idiot
@@davidbanan. Should've said that 5 years ago
just wanna say I'm glad seeing you do that stop motion bit...
Easily one of my favorite Games Sack episodes yet, I was really impressed with all the information you gathered, I really enjoyed the part where you compared Gran Turismo 4, on 480p vs 1080i. One of my favorite things about Game Sack is how you guys manage to be informative and funny, since you manage to keep an audience with you for a whole HALF-HOUR that's an eternity in internet time! Also that ending skit was really a treat.
Too bad they don’t understand advantages of interlacing.
One other Super FX game that might be worth mentioning in a future episode is VorteX, a SNES game that I guess was originally supposed to use the Transformers license? It's a frustrating game, but it's neat to be able to transform at will among four different types of machines (even if it's fairly clunky due to the control combinations you have to memorize for each one), and it's also neat to have fully 3D environments that are fully explorable on the SNES -- and unlike Stunt Race FX, they take up the whole screen and aren't confusing, even if they also aren't particularly pretty.
VorteX also has one of the best soundtracks on the SNES, as far as I'm concerned. Honestly, it's worth playing just for the music. The first stage theme, if you let it play all the way through, is a techno masterpiece that doesn't loop until it's been going for over 7 or 8 minutes, and it sounds absolutely amazing. Whether or not the game shows off what the SNES can do graphically more than titles like Star Fox is debatable, but aurally, it absolutely shows what the SNES is capable of in every way.
Wyrdwad I will have to check out Vortex if I can. Thanks for the tip.
Wyrdwad I would definitely agree on the soundtrack, it is very good, but the game isn't really pushing the Snes in the first level (mainly due to no background bar a few stars). Pretty good in level 2 but still no real draw distance. Forgotten super fx games such as Dirt racer FX pushed the system much more, had a decent draw distance and much improved polygons over poor old Stunt race FX. I think Vortex, Dirt trax FX and Winter Gold were windowed/bordered ( At least here in the UK ) Anyway, good to see you commenting as usual, Definitely not disagreeing with you, just adding more options.
Snes Doom is definitively not the smoothest version; probably one of the worst (3DO being the worst outside the music), but I like the Snes version because it's very complete with almost every episodes levels intact and extra geometry (the pillars in the armor room in E1M1, absent from the jaguar ports) and most traps are still active (crushers), the dude who coded this game did an amazing job.
*The woman you mean, haha was a female who coded it
@@marcingx8627 By "the dude" I mean Randy Linden, the developer of Snes doom.
I know the 3DO port was done by Rebecca Heineman
@@indask8 Yeah might be my mistake there, apologies
Marcin Gx the woman programmer Rebecca Heineman. Famed for the 3do first person shooters Wolfenstein 3D and Killing Time. Aka burger Becky for some reason. Why? I have no idea.
That was literally the quickest thirty minutes of my life. Great episode as usual.
awesome ending !!! Genesis got the deadly final punch. Now thats blast processing.
You guys are awesome!!
Im 15 and dutch and you guys are one of the few people i watch every upload from, you guys rock keep up the good work :)
I had originally commented that they should mention Tales of Phantasia and then minutes later, they brought up Tales of Phantasia.
This is the danger of commenting before you finish watching, Kids.
Zachary Hastings P.S., I've learned the song. It's fantastic.
Zachary Hastings Something that truly perplexed me about ToP (besides the opening song) were the digitized voices for every single attack in the game. It blew my mind that the voices were so clear and you get to hear them every two seconds.
Silly Joe. You don't need to switch discs in the middle of your adventure in the PS1 version of Resident Evil 2. Each disc covers a character, so you can play through the entire game as one character on one disc, then change discs to play the same scenario from the other character's perspective, or play the alternate scenario or whatever it's called. That game was interesting with the way it handled characters, scenarios, and bonus characters. I remember needing something like 8 (of 15) memory card blocks being dedicated to Resi 2 to unlock Tofu. Good times.
Anyway, what was I saying? Oh yeah! Great work Joe, you too Dave!
The Game Boy will remain forever a memory in Game Sack's hearts. RIP
Hey guys nice episode! Great selection, those games are amazing. Keep doing it! No one talk about retro gaming history like you guys. I'm very excited to see the next episode of Game Sack. Greetings from Venezuela.
Luis Narvaez Thanks and hello Venezuela!
Dave, there's at least one other NES game that used the same tower rotation effect as Kirby's Adventure. The game in question is Castelian. You may want to check it out.
By the way, another great episode, guys. Keep it up! :)
MP83 I will have to check that game out. I've never played Castelian.
David White Battletoads uses the same effect in one of the latter levels.
Hahahahahah great closing as usual. "Where did my video game systems go? I need to be entertained right now!!
The genius duo are at it again. Here we go, now about to watch the episode!!
To the people saying "Duhh, this is the _only_ cartridge version of Resident Evil 2!"
Nope, it is not.
Ghost81 What are the other ones?
Thanks for your hard work guys!
Funny how the impressive super nintendo game that they presented looks and runs like how a typical game for the genesis would. Gotta have that blast processing
Can't get enough of these episodes! You guys rock!
Rico River Thank You!
As I recall, "Kirby's Adventure" was not the last game released on the NES; That would actually be "Wario's Woods".
"One of the last"
Not quite, since the NES had one more year left before Nintendo retired their beloved 8-bit console, and there were plenty of other games that came out afterward such as "Mega Man 6" and "Chip 'N Dale Rescue Rangers 2".
Casey Decker “Plenty?” Relative to what, exactly? Kirby’s Adventures was “one of the last” from any reasonable perspective.
funny with the faceball gb joke. "too bad 16 copies were probably not even sold", keep it up guys
Gentlemen of Game Sack.
Your finest episode IMO. So many of my favourite games and for the same reasons. The end cut scene was friggin' hilarious too.
Now for my suggestions....
GO VACATION on Wii. Massive, free roam environments running on 4 player split screen. Plus everything from 3rd person shooter, skiing, scuba diving and light sabre duelling.
XENOBLADE also on Wii. Literally the most breath taking environments I've seen in any game.
TOY STORY RACER on Gameboy. A cleaver use of FMV to mimic a 3D style Mario Kart clone. Not a great racer but very impressive.
That busted-up Gameboy was hilarious! Superb episode this week guys!
17:01 - I can't get over how much that sound clip ("Direct hit! Target destroyed!") sounds like Johnny Millenium (AKA HappyConsoleGamer) :D
I was not aware the PlayStation 2 could do 1080i at all. I thought its maximum resolution was 480p.
Guess you never paid attention closely to the available options in Gran Turismo 4 then (or you never owned it.) ;)
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yes, the ps2 only upscales games to 1080i there aren't rendered internally in hi-res like true 1080i/720p of the xbox games. However, it can do 480p even if it was more difficult to do in comparison to DC , GCN and XBOX.Also i know that many ps2 games are rendered in lower than 6480x480i (many games used 512x448i/640x448i or between 320 to 640x240p like "ICO", for example...).
22:40 is one of those moments where you're kind of half watching the video, and then you hear it... can't stop laughing
The cartridge bus on the SNES actually had lines for video and audio output from the cartridge (I mean PCM samples and digital pixels and not analog signals). Graphics output from the Super FX chip was displayed as an additional 256 color graphics layer which is why Yoshi's Island's 2D graphics looked so much better than other SNES games.
The Super FX was further developed into the ARC chip (Argonaut RISC core) which found some success in mobile devices.
God of War 2 also had a hidden 1080i mode that is accessed by inputting a specific button combination at the start screen.
wickedcaitsith Interesting, I did not know this.
wickedcaitsith The hidden mode isnt 1080i, it's actually just 480p rendered at hull horizontal resolution back buffer which is still pretty damn neat.
Normally GOW2 runs at reduced horizontal resolution like most PS2 titles(it's not 640 on 448 it's more like 512 on 448) that is being stretched by the front buffer to maintain the correct aspect ratio.
I guess they havent fully tested the full resolution mode so they just implemented it as an extra. There is a difference in the graphics but it's very slight mostly less noticeable aliasing.
All things considered the first GOW actually used even higher internal resolution, it was close to 720p (not quite) you cant access it by normal means you need to have a program that allows you to scale games to custom resolutions. The internal resolution was made higher than the output resolution to minimize jaggedness of the image which worked fantastically.
Pointing out that Star Fox on the SNES had perfect voices too. At the beginning and ending of the game.
another awesome entry for Game Sack! Joe outdid himself with the explanations in this one, I loved the interlace explanation and Dave's Kirby's Adventure and Game Boy Color entries! Keep up the great work guys!
awesome list. So many frustrating titles in there too. When i discovered emulators i went back and beat all those old games that haunted me.
I always thought the Metroid Prime games looked amazing for the Gamecube.
Strelok Kosugi hell yeah they did and still look bad ass today in 2018!! To be honest i think its the best looking first person shooter for that generation of systems.
Doom was not fullscreen on SNES and I was so disapointed when I first played the game that I called the shop to ask if it was supposed to be like that...
90's kid me remembers the pain when my brother show me his playstation version (no music though).
glurp1er but still is render at the typical SNES resolution (256x224p) with smaller screen size to improve performance a little bit than full screen.
When I was a kid the game I remember impressing me the most was Flashback. It was the first time I ever played a game with cutscenes where the people actually looked real! It had me hooked immediatly and still remains as one of my favorites.
That was by far the best post-credits bit you guys have done!
I always thought the Warriors for the PS2 pushed it well. You wouldn't expect a licensed game to come out in 2005 on a movie that hit theaters in 1979, much less made by rockstar, but it's here, and the cutscenes are beautiful. I honestly think of their cutscenes before L.A Noire when I think of good lip sync and quality. The game is really a standard 3-D beat em up, but it has that signature rockstar open world and even an expanded universe. It really does the movie justice.
Hope you were serious about reviewing the wrestling titles on the N64. The key to these games is playing with 3 of your friends. Tonnes of fun. I'd start with NWO vs WCW Revenge and end with WWF: No Mercy (The ultimate wrestling game)
Great vid fellas. Best sound I've ever heard on NES has to go to Blades of Steel, a hockey game that was published by Konami. That game had so many in-game voice clips it was ridiculous.
I love this show. It's very nice to see two adults just talk about video games and not yell loudly and make stupid faces at the camera.
Factor 5 was a talented developer. They closed their doors in 2009 after Lair.
VideoGameTakeOut That's a shame they should still be around.
VideoGameTakeOut but not due to Lair. They were paid for that.
+y9784
No one wanted them after Lair, just like no one wanted Silicon Knights after Too Human.
Too much power sometimes can bite you in the ass;
Untrue. They had several deals going: the Superman game with Brash that killed them, a pitch for Kid Icarus, Star Wars Rogue Squadron Trilogy for Wii, a Wii flight sim game similar to Pilotwings, and others.
Also, Factor5 pushed for Sony to have Lair's motion controls as an option hidden in the menu. Sony forced them to launch with motion controls as the default as Sony was pushing that SIXAXIS real hard at the time.
Thanks, good video!
I remember on Sega Mega Drive there was a racing game with FX chip in cartridge that could do 3D - Virtua Racing, and it run smoothly, I was impressed.
Also, there was Sonic 3D Blast, a late game yet with unprecedented quality of 2 1/2 D graphics for the system
Wow that interlacing finally explained what my eyes have been seeing for years, thanks!
The weird thing about the PS2 and 480p is that most later titles CAN support it due to being rendered in full height frames as oppose to field rendered like many of early titles but they just lack the mode to do so.
It can be implemented in them with freemcboot and GSM or Xploder HD, The results may be mixed but where it works it's the definitive way of playing PS2 on a HDTV, also makes recording and editing those games SO MUCH less of a pain.
30 minutes are gone. :( I'm now sad. I vow for an hour long special.
Speech in games would deserve a separate episode.
As for games that pushed the hardware: Sonic 2 runs in 480i in its 2-player mode. (Same for Combat Cars btw.) What is rather mind-blowing about Sonic 2 is that it showed that the MD could basically run two Sonic 1s simultaneously at once.
Herzog Zwei is the first MD game with split-screen I think, basically running the overhead stages from Thunder Force 2 twice at once (although not in 480i).
Streets of Rage 2 and Bare Knuckle III are rather neat technically with tons of huge highly detailed sprites on screen at once. BK3 even goes as far as temporarily sending enemy characters out of screen to prevent flicker or slowdown.
Streets of Rage 2 in Mania difficulty is just totally insane with how many sprites on screen there are, especially Stage 7's elevator stage. There is some minor slowdown and flicker though.
The PCM in SOR2/BK3 is also quite clear in my opinion.
Monsterworld IV has perhaps the best visuals on MD in terms of color usage, especially some later stages. Dynamite Headdy looks very nice as well. As does Eliminate Down.
Thunder Force IV's bosses always were incredibly impressive to me.
The parallax/line scrolling in Sonic (JP), Gleylancer, Thunder Force IV, and Eliminate Down is very impressive.
A ton of clear voice samples in Dune II
The Sports Talk Baseball and Joe Montana games by Sega had live commentary throughout the game thanks to ESS Technology's speech routines.
FIFA Soccer tried to recreate the experience of a live audience
Toy Story's title screen used a standard Amiga mod player and mixed the channels down (all done real-time in software) before playing it through the Genesis' PCM channel.
Games like Revenge of Shinobi, Golden Axe 1, Sonic 1, and Super Mario World should receive rewards for squeezing the most out of mere 4 Mbit (!).
Street Racer has 4-player split screen all in software.
Adventures of Batman & Robin is really quite impressive technically
Puggsy has a nice cinematic opening - using prerendered graphics (long before Donkey Kong Country)
I heard good things about the 3d levels in Novotrade's Exo-Squad on MD but have yet to try it.
ResQ's bonus stages look A LOT like Star Fox on MD - without the SFX chip!
Formula One, Kawasaki Superbike, F1 World Championship by Domark all use the Vroom engine which is mostly polygonal
Similar applies to Newman Haas IndyCar Featuring Nigel Mansell
Road Rash actually scales trackside objects in real-time.
Some games by EA like Skitchin or some of those scored by Tommy Tallarico use the PCM channel for instruments (other than just percussion)
Shadow Dancer Stage 1: Burning Downtown and Thunder Force III Stage 2: Gorgon look great!
On Master System Power Strike II and Sagaia are the most impressive games imho.
Aladdin has nice line scrolling similar to Street Fighter II
Jurassic Park has nice parallax scrolling.
The Flash has an excellent soundtrack (by Jeroen Tell)
Same for Batman Returns (by Yuzo Koshiro & Motohiro Kawashima)
Sonic 1 is incredible but Phantasy Star and Alex Kidd in Miracle World are really impressive as well.
On Saturn Virtua Fighter 2 and Dead or Alive run in High Res, Panzer Draagoon zwei in 16:9, mid-res and it seems to be one of the few games to use the sound chip for the music instead of CDDA (might also be the case with Legend of Oasis and Shinobi Legions).
On Dreamcast I was most impressed with Giga Wing 2, Ikaruga, Under Defeat, and REZ. Virtua Tennis and Power Stone looked extremely detailed to me as well.
I also heard good things about F355 and Le Mans.
On NES Gimmick! is quite impressive (much like Kirby and Mario Bros. 3).
It's incredible how they recreated Stage 1 in TMNT: The Arcade Game!
On SNES Axelay isn't too shabby either.
I've always been a fan of F-Zero even though its just using a regular hardware feature. The game never got improved upon by anything on SNES that came after it imho.
The first stage in Vampire's Kiss is mind blowing!
FMV on N64?! *MIND BLOWN*
Thank you guys for covering Star Ocean and Tales of Phantasia! Both are excellent games that show off just how talented Wolf Team/tri-Ace were and are.
Some games to consider for the next in this series:
-Street Fighter Alpha 2(SNES)
-Alone in the Dark: The New Nightmare, or The Fish Files(GBC, displayed more colors than the GBC's hardware was "supposed to")
-VRally 3(GBA)
-SRS Racing(GBA)
-Porky Pig's Haunted Holiday(SNES)
-Star Wars Ep. I: Battle for Naboo(N64)
-Fear Effect/Fear Effect 2(PS1)
-Zone of the Enders: The 2nd Runner(PS2)
-Rayman(PS1)
Factor 5 are goddamn wizards. Rogue Squadron and Rebel Strike look better than many of the 360/PS3 games, at least from the first 2 or 3 years of the system.
Osmund Saddler Most people don't even check out Factor 5's Lair on PS3 (an early release). That game is technically impressive, sounds fantastic, and has gorgeous graphics.
Nice Compilation. But still no "Elite" on the Nes. It was released only in Europe and pushed the Graphics on the Nes with awesome POLYGONS!
TheTHS1984 Yeah I can't run that one. Won't run properly on US NES systems.
Game Sack Just declare that you are using an emulator for that one game, you used emulators back in one episode talking about Arcade games, unless you've seriously changed your stand on emulators it should be fine as long as you declare it.
Game Sack then use the forbidden one... USE THE FORBIDDEN TOOL the emulator! no really dont do it but just to show it off you can i suppose
Game Sack you can mod your NES really easy to accept differtent regions: you just have to disconnect one specific foot of the chip that runs the region test. look it up, it's so easy that even I, as a comlplete failure when it comes to electronics, have managed to do this.
Edit: oh, maybe you already know that, but have a problem with running elite because of the Frequency-difference between the 60 hz. US(NTSC)-NES and the 50 hz. EUR(PAL)-NES. Getting rid of this difference would need more elaborate modding.
Cynic667 It's not a problem with region locking, the problem is that the game NEEDS to run in 50hz mode, otherwise the program code shits itself, and you can't mod a US NES to do that, you need a European system.
You guys are great! I've watched every single episode and I still watching the new ones. I miss that time when developers made a full game to enjoy without having to pay to advance in it or to play the full version, you know the 90's and the part of 2000's was great for gaming, not like now.
Rouge squadron was my childhood fave. That made me feel so much nostalgia. I want it again now.
I feel like Rogue Squadron looks better than some games today, even.
For Digitized voices on the Genesis you guys forgot about Joe Montana Sports Talk Football!!
Every time i see a new game sack video i go "man 30 minutes is too much". But here i am, watching a new gs video till the end.
Best retro gaming channel bar none.