Thanks, Mario! I agree that Audio University Kyle's explanation is great, but I like that you stepped us though the damping process and the sound physics basics. And I like your little mention of diffraction at the end: I guess that'd affect case design and/or the ports on the back of a cardioid capsule. I'm so glad that's someone else's job!
Wow Mario, you're such a great teacher!!! I've heard that older microphones were more sensitive to high frequency than modern ones, is it due to a lack of "damping" on their construction?? I would be curious to know it. In order to recreate a true 50's sound into my recordings, I wonder if it shall be benefit to use a kind of single ribbon mic with "no damping"? If we refer to the ancient techniques, as you can find maybe on audacity, there was an EQ curve, sometimes called "RCA Victor", made for boosting the basses and low down the highs, that was applied to the final recording. This was, in my opinion, something to compensate the sound of the microphones...? Let's keep this discussion open, please?!!
Thomas these are all great questions that I don't necessarily have the answers to. I don't know how or when the designers of microphones realized the need for damping. I would have to research the very first designs of microphone made. I think a lot of what we consider the true 50s sound has more to do with playback medium than actual recording conditions. Make sense?
@@Mario_DiSanto it is possible that sometimes I extrapole too much about what I've heard or what I think I've heard!? Yes, it makes sense. I like your scientific mind combined with fun an authenticity! I'm gonna keep on watching your tutos, cause I've missed some.
Mate that Paisley shirt ? Sick. I had one that I got from somewhere ? In 1978 ? Was I 11 or the next year I was 12 in 79 . I wanted to be a mod but didn’t have any money …. Could just afford the next 45 by the Jam ! They had all the clothes and great songs . The Who released long live Rock in 1978 after Keith Moon left us . A complete tragedy. Long live Keith . Maybe I got the shirt second hand or swapped it for something . Later had a cool Raincoat . I was growing all the time and reached 6 feet 4 inches , I can remember feeling pretty weird at that age . Could feel my body stretching at night like something from American Werewolf in London ha ha . True
Ha, that's funny Mike. I never quite caught that growth spurt bug! And amen brother, long live Keith! He is why I am drummer after all. I used to really idolize him when I was a teenager. It really wasn't until I got older that I realized he was probably not the greatest guy to be around with all his antics! I mean who of the rockers from that period were 'model citizens'? Rock and Roll lifestyle I suppose.
Keith was and is a beautiful man and spirit in this world . He wanted fun from an early age and every school in London had someone like him . Maybe I was one of those like him at school , I realised at age 13 I wanted more than Hendrix and started to get into jazz in a big way . I remember seeing Dudley Moore on tv , a one man show … jazz and fun ! Yeah . Seeing Pete Townsend interviewed on the Michael Parkinson show , that’s on RUclips . Then Pete jams with his dad on clarinet! I watched that brand new in 1979 ? Yeah I could see Pete was blues , punk , jazz , errrr ….
U did a good job man I understood :) btw is there a vinyl of distorted proportions coming? If yes be sure to plug it so I can tell the guy from my local record store to order some
I'm curious if, since lower freq's disperse more than higher ones, wouldn't larger diaphragm mics have stronger bass response than smaller ones, regardless of proximity effect, the closer to a point source because they capture more of the dispersed wavefront? I also wonder what is considered the "surface" of a guitar speaker with regard to micing? Is it the actual cone surface, or the plane at the surround?
What do you mean by "lower freq's disperse more than higher ones"? Not following you there. The larger the diaphragm on a microphone, the more it will react to sound waves, the louder the signal will be. Generally speaking of course. This is why small diaphragm condensers usually have a smaller signal. SDC also have more top-end but I am not really sure it's for the reasons I mention in this video. I would have to do some research on that. The surface of the guitar speaker is a good question. In practical manners it doesn't matter much though right? If the mic position sounds good and you get the amount of proximity effect you want that it's good enough right? In reality, objects omitting sound don't act as a true "point source" like the theoretical math and physics suggests. Reality is a very complicated system to model on paper. Lower frequencies act more like a point source than high frequencies at short distances though. Perhaps this is what you were referring to about dispersing?
You want big boom boom, no switch. You don't want big boom boom you flip the switch. Lol but seriously. In the simplest form, a small capacity capacitor connected in parallel to your output terminals gives you low end roll off. I suspect a lot of lower end/mid-tier mics work this way.
@@Mario_DiSanto LOL beware the Boom stick yo! You are the rare example of an engineer that can relate to other humans. Next question is do proximity effect and low cut filters affect the phase of a signal the way an equalizer does?
No, an EQ works on different principles. That is a much more complicated topic and something that I need to understand better myself before I try to impart this wisdom onto others.@@AldeanLeger
Hey man, Super interesting video as always. Can I sample your music? I can't give you money for it but I will credit your music and mention it along side the beats if they get released.
we getting bombarded by these vids like unexpected gifts on christmas. quite fitting for the season. thanks mario.
4:59 tfw when the pressure gradient be hittin the ribbon just right
Back so soon, huh? Im here for it! 🤘
dude -- you are the man, keep it up and god bless your commitment to the form
Thanks, will do!
Been loving the video output lately!
7:33 dark urges take control
Lol 😂, oh man Bro , you had me cracking up from the title alone. Always love your work, and sense of humor.
I cut out a lot jokes I make into the camera because a lot of them are very inappropriate lol.
@@Mario_DiSanto 😂 .. I love it. Keep em flowing
Damn, my dude! Dropping videos like mad lately! Looking forward to the garage rock organ video!
Damn....I gotta get on that don't I.
@@Mario_DiSanto Hah, no pressure! Just really digging the series.
Thanks, Mario! I agree that Audio University Kyle's explanation is great, but I like that you stepped us though the damping process and the sound physics basics. And I like your little mention of diffraction at the end: I guess that'd affect case design and/or the ports on the back of a cardioid capsule. I'm so glad that's someone else's job!
Good job, thank you!
Goooood morning
Airplane! reference!
As a cirtified DAW user I loved the thumbnail! Havent watched the video yet so lets see if it holds up
My man Mario,
Love your vids, love your explanations, your insight, your music, your vibe. Just wanted to say it.
You're da man!!
Thanks for your comment Pedro. Cheers
Its also why we have pink noise, technically its white noise that has been "dampened" to flatten the 6dB per oct energy climb.
Interesting, didn't know that!
Mario coming hard for the winter period! thanks for all the sharing of knowledge you've been doing recently, we appreciate you!
Mario my man, you are on a roll! This DAW user totally got it :-D Thanks for sharing your insights!
Haha thanks Claude!
This is like a science lesson . Your a great teacher actually
Excellent. 👌 Subscribed.
Makes sense, is this why the bass singer sounds quieter and the higher pitch voice cuts through the mix?
Hmmmm, I wager that has more to do with a build up of frequencies in a mix than the physics of different wavelengths.
definitely better with the light.
Thank you! First one to tell me so
Its hard to explain the proximity effect simply and intuitivly because its really complex and nonintuative
Wow Mario, you're such a great teacher!!! I've heard that older microphones were more sensitive to high frequency than modern ones, is it due to a lack of "damping" on their construction?? I would be curious to know it. In order to recreate a true 50's sound into my recordings, I wonder if it shall be benefit to use a kind of single ribbon mic with "no damping"? If we refer to the ancient techniques, as you can find maybe on audacity, there was an EQ curve, sometimes called "RCA Victor", made for boosting the basses and low down the highs, that was applied to the final recording. This was, in my opinion, something to compensate the sound of the microphones...? Let's keep this discussion open, please?!!
Thomas these are all great questions that I don't necessarily have the answers to. I don't know how or when the designers of microphones realized the need for damping. I would have to research the very first designs of microphone made. I think a lot of what we consider the true 50s sound has more to do with playback medium than actual recording conditions. Make sense?
@@Mario_DiSanto it is possible that sometimes I extrapole too much about what I've heard or what I think I've heard!? Yes, it makes sense. I like your scientific mind combined with fun an authenticity! I'm gonna keep on watching your tutos, cause I've missed some.
Mate that Paisley shirt ? Sick. I had one that I got from somewhere ? In 1978 ? Was I 11 or the next year I was 12 in 79 . I wanted to be a mod but didn’t have any money …. Could just afford the next 45 by the Jam ! They had all the clothes and great songs . The Who released long live Rock in 1978 after Keith Moon left us . A complete tragedy. Long live Keith . Maybe I got the shirt second hand or swapped it for something . Later had a cool Raincoat . I was growing all the time and reached 6 feet 4 inches , I can remember feeling pretty weird at that age . Could feel my body stretching at night like something from American Werewolf in London ha ha . True
Ha, that's funny Mike. I never quite caught that growth spurt bug! And amen brother, long live Keith! He is why I am drummer after all. I used to really idolize him when I was a teenager. It really wasn't until I got older that I realized he was probably not the greatest guy to be around with all his antics! I mean who of the rockers from that period were 'model citizens'? Rock and Roll lifestyle I suppose.
Keith was and is a beautiful man and spirit in this world . He wanted fun from an early age and every school in London had someone like him . Maybe I was one of those like him at school , I realised at age 13 I wanted more than Hendrix and started to get into jazz in a big way . I remember seeing Dudley Moore on tv , a one man show … jazz and fun ! Yeah . Seeing Pete Townsend interviewed on the Michael Parkinson show , that’s on RUclips . Then Pete jams with his dad on clarinet! I watched that brand new in 1979 ? Yeah I could see Pete was blues , punk , jazz , errrr ….
U did a good job man I understood :) btw is there a vinyl of distorted proportions coming? If yes be sure to plug it so I can tell the guy from my local record store to order some
Dude! I am trying to get the record pressed, I swear. I need you jabronis to share my music more I guess to get more exposure haha. Cheers
Will do my man!!
I'm curious if, since lower freq's disperse more than higher ones, wouldn't larger diaphragm mics have stronger bass response than smaller ones, regardless of proximity effect, the closer to a point source because they capture more of the dispersed wavefront? I also wonder what is considered the "surface" of a guitar speaker with regard to micing? Is it the actual cone surface, or the plane at the surround?
What do you mean by "lower freq's disperse more than higher ones"? Not following you there. The larger the diaphragm on a microphone, the more it will react to sound waves, the louder the signal will be. Generally speaking of course. This is why small diaphragm condensers usually have a smaller signal. SDC also have more top-end but I am not really sure it's for the reasons I mention in this video. I would have to do some research on that.
The surface of the guitar speaker is a good question. In practical manners it doesn't matter much though right? If the mic position sounds good and you get the amount of proximity effect you want that it's good enough right?
In reality, objects omitting sound don't act as a true "point source" like the theoretical math and physics suggests. Reality is a very complicated system to model on paper. Lower frequencies act more like a point source than high frequencies at short distances though. Perhaps this is what you were referring to about dispersing?
Sooooo, how does the low cut switch work in this scheme
You want big boom boom, no switch. You don't want big boom boom you flip the switch. Lol but seriously. In the simplest form, a small capacity capacitor connected in parallel to your output terminals gives you low end roll off. I suspect a lot of lower end/mid-tier mics work this way.
@@Mario_DiSanto LOL beware the Boom stick yo! You are the rare example of an engineer that can relate to other humans. Next question is do proximity effect and low cut filters affect the phase of a signal the way an equalizer does?
No, an EQ works on different principles. That is a much more complicated topic and something that I need to understand better myself before I try to impart this wisdom onto others.@@AldeanLeger
Hey man,
Super interesting video as always.
Can I sample your music?
I can't give you money for it but I will credit your music and mention it along side the beats if they get released.
Go for it bud
Yeey
Pushing buttons are we? Ha Ha 😂 DAWgonit, Mario, you’re out to grind some Audio Nerd Gears. Ok… I’m finished. 🎟️➡️🎤🐰🕳️
Lol you know it baby!