Michael Jai White & Vlad Have Heated Debate Over Bill Cosby & Michael Jackson (Part 20)
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
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In the latest clip, Michael Jai White and DJ Vlad continued to debate whether Bill Cosby's accusers were telling the truth or seeking a money grab. Vlad referenced one of Michael Jackson's accusers being a proven scammer before Michael Jai White explained why it's difficult to prove a sexual assault took place. The actor also referenced Cosby's "spanish fly" joke and acknowledged that there are outliers to every situation before encouraging Vlad truly investigate the conspiracy theory that Cosby was set up by over 60 women.
Never thought of the day Vlad would take the black man side in a debate against a black man🤔
Vlad is a lot of things but I’ve never felt Vlad was a racist
WTF?
@@thegreatdel9679 the only way you can't be racist is if you think there's one race the human one. But it's a conundrum to say that because you're calling n's and w's equal
@@thegreatdel9679 I think we all feel the same. He do shit we don’t feel all the time. But son ii
@@respecter933 Bruh you're reaching hard af smh Vlad has flaws but definitely doesn't give off racist vibes at all
Vlad isn’t saying he couldn’t have done it. He’s saying he doesn’t believe he did it.
Exactly
@@qrfprivatesandman Vlad is dumb, Jai White owned him
I just know that Vlad is going back to bashing Michael Jackson again because he knows that is where is coming from it never fails.
And MJW is saying he doesn't believe it purely because Michael was rich and could sing well.
@Bill Lewis You're a dam lie. Guilt was never admitted by either of them.
I’m actually shocked that Vlad is defending MJ. Wow! Having Tom on was a game changer. I am so happy.
There is no way MJ touched those kids. Something would’ve came to light already with solid evidence
Maybe Vlad touches kids too
@@user-vg8tv1hp9c what kind of solid evidence? Video evidence?
@@user-vg8tv1hp9c @A so his maid who wasn't ever paid off, going into detail, who was with him for years, the kids coming forward, the vaseline stories that matches up, the first law suit that they settled out of court, none of that was enough? Where there's a shitload of smoke, there's fire.
Fuck yea maybe cause MJ bleached his skin
This was hardly a heated conversation. Just a normal talk between two people who respect each other's opinions.
yup. straight up positive debate
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This is wild lmaoo Vlad use to be on the other side of the MJ debate now he going hard for him glad he looked at all the information and didn’t just side with the accuser
I was thinking that myself. We are all allowed room to grow tho.. good job Vlad
Real shit shout out to Vlad for not just blindly holding onto a narrative like a sheep
Yo I was just about to write this !!
The Bill Cosby shit too
So…I think vlad is snake …but he’s not allowed to change his mind with new evidence? Lol 😂
They did everything to try to crucify Michael. They couldn’t find any evidence. He’s tripping
@e3scap1st they getting sued for that for saying things that are known lies and interviews with known liars.
@e3scap1st No. Research the case.
@e3scap1stThe fraudsters in leaving neverland had both their cases against MIchael thrown out by 2 separate judges in the past year.
@e3scap1st FBI left neveand after busting in and setting up camp for weeks still didn’t find anything except for regular porn
@e3scap1st I don’t like fiction movies
The more you look into MJ the more innocent he becomes. He was a victim of jealousy and greed. People who just assume hes guilty are ignorant, do some research and you'll find nothing but kindness and humanity.
Couldn’t have said it any better
I've been on MJW side in most of these debates I've seen. But here, I have to part ways with his position.
I hope HE never gets a false accusation. And if he does, it WILL snowball... that's the way it works.
See, here's the thing: you just declared any accusation against MJ or Cosby as a false accusation. The incidents in which they were falsely accused goes as far as those accusations. No further. Being innocent today means nothing about tomorrow,
@Mr. Blutarsky I didn't declare any such thing. I never said anything about hypothetical accusations tomorrow about them... or about you, for that matter.
I'm saying a celebrity is so widely known that any one person can launch a false accusation, and then here comes the train.
Both Michael Jackson and Bill Cosby were world-famous celebrities with decades of interactions with people.
MJ was vulnerable because he loved kids so much and missed so much of his own childhood that he identified with them too much and spent too much time with them. From the limited analysis of testimonies and situations I could view, there are cases where parents appeared to engineer a situation in which they could pursue MJ's wealth. There were other kids that grew up with MJ that declared he NEVER did any of those inappropriate things. It's hard to believe he would NEVER molest kids he was with so long, but was a molester. I think he was a big kid and loved being with kids. But, in the end, we weren't there. I don't believe in judging people based on no knowledge of facts.
Bill Cosby was vulnerable because he had affairs with women. That much he seems guilty of.
But they took a deposition and asked him, "Have you ever given Quaaludes (or whatever) to any woman with the hope of having sex with them?" Then, some media and you took that to mean he gave them date-rape drugs and raped them. And that is not what he said in the deposition.
There are provable cases of many of these women who had a history of false accusations, or not having contact with Cosby when they said they did, or just being in proximity, like a playboy mansion, or going to his house repeatedly, even AFTER they said they were molested. I think a woman should not be disregarded when she says she is raped. All have a right to be heard. But, then, if it doesn't pass the smell-test, it's not impossible that a woman making such claims is not lying.
Some people act like women never lie. Men AND women lie. Some will lie about these things, especially when they see a big payday.
My point is, if they are not found guilty, we have no right to castigate them in public.
@@MichaelBuieFilms thanks for replying. You don't feel that what I said was your standpoint. That's fine. That is however how I see what you said. I listened to what you said and read what you typed and that is my takeaway. Neither one of us in infallible but bear in mind that I do not choose your words for you.
Vlad gave him facts about MJ , MJW gave u emotion with no facts😂 . when u get sued for something u didn’t do keep that same energy for yourself sir
Exactly
Facts
Exactly!!! We'll see this in a Vlad "Flashback" lol
Exactly!!! 😁😁👊👊👏👏👏
Fact:MJ admits to sleeping in the bed with young children that aren’t his. I think MJW made his points very well “without” getting over emotional. If MJ we’re still here on 3D are you letting your kids sleepover at MJ”s slumber party??
MJW keep saying why would 60 women lie … but also why would 60 women wait 40 years later
Because of The power Bill Cosby had in Hollywood in the 70s and 80s he was untouchable he had the best show on I think bill Cosby did some of it not all of it
@@malikwilson7387 I knew someone who was raped repeatedly and no one knew about it until her suicide note. There’s often a shame involved that compels victims to stay quiet.
@@malikwilson7387 what about the 60s when they had white only signs people forget that.i don't believe for one second bill was doing that with white only signs hung up.. also the feds was watching him... just like how they was watching mlk.. they told mlk wife he was having 3 somes
@@kanpoe7043 50 victims don’t stay completely silent for 40 years. Doesn’t happen. They said nothing to their husbands, said nothing to psychologists and psychiatrists, said nothing to the press, said nothing to family members, friends, a support group, the police, nobody. That is extremely unlikely. You would be betraying your common sense to accept this idea
@@mybestnugget7514 Lol, this is comically inaccurate. Things were said to many people, just not law enforcement. Accusations regarding Cosby were floating around the entertainment industry WAY before charges were ever filed. How do you think Buress knew? How do you think Richard Pryors wife confirmed he knew? It was about as much as secret as Harvey Weinstein was.
At this point Vlad needs to just interview himself He makes every single interview about himself God damn man
SYBAU.
The first two words are “Shut Yo….”
Facts!
@@gabrielmcgaha2379 🤣🤣😭
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Lmao Vlad is defending MJ now, about time dude sees the truth 😂
Michael Jai White really is being willfully ignorant specifically about MJ.
He thinks he is REALLY smart too
He was being sarcastic
@@johnnyrainbow50 during what point? The OP comment is making a general statement about how MJW came off, so are you saying this entire discussion he was being sarcastic or did you reply to the wrong comment?
@@johnnyrainbow50 ya he was being sarcastic lol these guys cant keep up, the clip starts off without context to be far but hes mocking the point vlad is tryna make lol
@@thebridge7970 I listened to the whole clip, as well as most of all other MJW videos here. He tries to talk like he is some sort of sage who also seems to know every single person on the planet
Omg Micheal is the best actor ever!! He went from himself to Terry Crews in the same interview.
Lol
This should have 10,000 likes.
🎯🎯🎯
😂😂
😂😂😂😂 I completely disagree with mike on this one, he sounds like a woman 😂
George Carlin and other comedians had Spanish Fly jokes so that means nothing lol
I actually wish Vlad was smart enough to say that. A lot of comedians joke about rape, beating people up, murdering people, causing all kinds of havoc. A lot of actors play action martial arts roles. A lot of musical talents (especially in hip hop) talk about being gang members, doing shoot outs, selling drugs. MJW has to understand he too sells a fantasy that attracts those who live vicariously through the media. Just because your media entertainment says it, doesn’t mean they do it
I don't think Vlad ever realizes he's not the one being interviewed.
That's what I'm saying... I've asked the question before!!!... Why doesn't Vlad just sit with his guess and have a discussion instead of just one face and yet he's speaking all the time. ...
it's called vladtv
@@johnsutphin9400 exactly....we should see him instead of the guess...
Well the interviewer had a strong disagreement from whom he was interviewing. In that instance it is okay to interject your own opinions to either correct them or put your own input in the conversation to get more out of the question being asked or bringing forth your own rebuttal. More common than you think it's just most interviewers bring forth topics where they know the one being interviewed will be more so on their side or they pry a certain reaction out of them knowing the response.
@@davidcici11Evolution the problem is that it's not a one time thing. The default is Vlad talking over his guests, cutting them off, and only in brief patches are they allowed to speak uninterrupted. Vlad's opinions are second to the guest in importance. Not the first.
Bottom line is, in Mike's mind their guilty.
You stated that well, in just a few words.🎯
Or he's afraid of stepping on toes in Hollyweird. Don't forget, MJW is a SAG card holder with a large bro fanbase... And I mean bro, not bruh.
@@diegodonjuan Exactly!
I think so many people are jaded from so many scandals, MJW has gotten cynical. Plus Bill Cosby confessed if I’m not mistaken.
@@cedricbeard894 That is a lie that MSM has spread. Cosby never confessed to any crime. He admitted to supplying legal recreational drugs to adult women who took them willingly. They were having consensual dug fuelled sex parties.
Ok Mike. When it’s you, keep that same energy.
exactly
Right?
only a couple of yrs before some girl comes out chasing the bag from him
🤪 did he know Michael Jackson? Oh but he is taking on the authority to speak; about someone he probably never even met or spent time with, everybody’s a judge until the real one shows up
I feel this interview will be his doom😂😂
I learned a lot from Bill growing up and none of it was rape so love you for the positive lessons as a kid.
Get better role models, nerd.
Let’s see you do better…keep your mouth shut
courts are supposed to administer justice based purely on facts and evidence, not arbitrary opinions.
MJW is slowly turning into Lord Jamar/Godfrey's anger
Not at all bro!!
He acting like Samuel l Jackson in django
@@newsandhiphop 😂😂😂
@@newsandhiphop yooo🤣🤣🤣
Lol
What Mr White need to know is anybody can be a target, even him. Regardless if it’s truth or not. And will see if he will still feel how he does in this interview…ijs
And yet 60 women aren't going after him. In fact, the vast majority of famous and rich people aren't being accused of rape by 60 women. Bill Cosby on the other hand.
God forbid it happens to him and he be the 1 looking for sympathy and support
@@pablohanc because other ppl didn’t have that powwe bill had
@@haezeushawkins436 a lot of celebrities have the same amount or more than Bill. Some probably are lying but there is no way that ALL 60 of this women are all lying…stop it
Great point Naya
I believe MJW personally knows someone who was a victim of the Cosby situation
Michael is hilarious 🤣😂😆 His face the entire time he is describing his " hypothetical booty bandit", has me dieing laughing 😅🤣😂😆
This interview low key was pissing me off cus dude basically tryna insinuate Michael Jackson was guilty when it’s so much damn proof to prove that man was being framed and he never could get that stain off his image of being associated with assaulting kids. So to have Dawg trying to insinuate he did it is annoying… he’s famous his damn self so if a woman or a kid tomorrow randomly come up with a story and say he did something to them it’s beyond whack to feel like their guilty but gonna win a case because their famous … uh no there’s tons of famous people who actually committed crimes and was found guilty and rotted in jail so foh.
You know he did it.
@@lunsy9420 There's tons of evidence proving that Michael Jackson was innocent, his accusers are proven liars. You've got nothing to prove that he was "guilty"
@@lunsy9420 Based on what? Nothing.
He was just saying that when 60 women accuse you of rape it's not looking too wholesome. Especially when you told jokes about raping women.
What proof?
I Cant believe im saying this..
But im riding with Vlad 💯💯💯💪🏽
I love his sarcasm, and the point he's trying to make which is not necessarily that these people absolutely did these things, but that it is possible and we need to look past their celebrity status
Vlad loves hearing himself talk. He used to just asked question and allow people to incriminate themselves. Now, he actually tries to talk them into saying they would kill a snitch. How tf does Michael Jackson, the same weirdo who says it's okay to let kids sleep in bed with you and it's fun to climb trees, not seem like the type of weirdo who would touch a child inappropriately? 🤣🤣🤣
Suppose 60 women accused Michael Jai White of abuse. Concerning his Build and his fighting skills and background everyone will believe that. That is something he has to take into consideration. Just because people say you did something doesn't automatically mean you actually did it.
THANK YOU!!
but there arent 60 women accusing him
@@rockymars80 it went over your head, I see.
Bruh Bill has had that reputation for years though y’all act like this shit is new DL Hugley told Bill about himself way back in the 80’s 😂😂😂😂
Did y’all see that interview with Janet Dickinson crying over Cosby? I don’t think she was faking that.
All Michael Jai White said was that plausible deniability is selective. The fact that Michael was proven, doesn't mean corruption is absent on either side.
EVERYBODY has an opinion until.... The "machine" is turned on them. I've had questions about MJW for a LONG time. They have now been answered.
It’s ok to have a point of view but I can’t respect anybody that refuses to accept facts and evidence
Same. But people argue over facts and evidence all the time. When Trump claimed the election was stolen and even after every judge threw it out, due to lack of evidence, people STILL insist the election was stolen. So there's an example. When the vast majority of scientists said the vaccine for Covid is safe (rare exceptions aside) many Americans still think the vaccine is more harmful than the virus itself and call the body count inflated as if the hospitals are all waging a massive conspiracy. We have flat earthers arguing the earth is flat and you ask them "on what evidence?" and they give this long spiel of facts they got from this or that conspiracy website. So in these modern times there's no longer a collective agreement about facts and evidence.
but...on the flip side to that coin...facts and evidence get tainted and manipulated all the time, too
But he’s ignoring a lot of the shit vlad is saying and I can’t respect that … there’s no facts he is saying he in his feelings for some reason.
Well Vlad said one of the witnesses in the MJ got up in the stand and said nothing happened to him, now that witness says he was molested so the conclusion is he's a liar by MJ fans, another side might be that this guy has since said that MJ started a sexual relationship with him when he was still a child and that he believed he and MJ were in love, so when he was asked to testify he went into the stand and lied because he truly believed he was in love and protecting his soul mate, now as an adult he says he was manipulated by MJ. Just because the person is famous doesn't mean they can't commit crimes, look at Jimmy Saville, never prosecuted but not one person denies what he did because he didn't do amazing songs.
@@isuriadireja91 okayyy
Somebody go get Angela 🤦🏿♂️, Marcus tripping
Factz 🗣🤦🏿♂️
MARCUS Angela’s voice !!!!
He just talking out his behind. I mean look at him he's in bad movies all the time. He's looking for credibility
😂😂😂
Yoo 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
After this I can’t watch Michael j white anymore. One day someone will accuse him of something, drag his name and sue him … only then will his close-mindedness open up
Tell me about it! Gone off him for real
yeah i'm done with him.
Same.
I can’t believe it. I ACTUALLY found myself……..agreeing with VLAD lmao. Never thought I’d see this day 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Michael continuously put words in vlad's mouth to try to make vlad's argument sound weak which made Michael's argument look that much weaker.
Facts.
Do not forget that this guy was the lead in a movie called "Android Cop" lol he'll eat his own tongue for a role in a D+ movie 😆
He's definitely not famous enough to get away with a city parking ticket lol
lmao !!
MJW has good points all the time, but here I gotta agree with Vlad. If someone truly wants justice for a crime like sexual assault, why try to go after money ? It makes it look like a cash grab.
Why not go after the money? Don't you think a rape victim deserves compensation?
Why wouldn’t you want the money TOO? You’re Supposed to watch the person who destroyed your life get away with it and live it up?? You’d want to lock him up AND take the money. I’m not saying who did and didn’t do what, I’m saying that filing a lawsuit doesn’t automatically make you less credible. Plus: the standard of proof is higher in a criminal trial than a lawsuit (beyond a reasonable doubt vs preponderance of the evidence). So if a prosecutor can’t get a conviction or doesn’t care…why would that dissuade your from going after what you can. In MANY cases the civil suit is the only semblance of justice available. Look at wrongful death suits…can’t get the person back, money is all that’s left.
@@pablohanc They deserve justice through a conviction more than money. Money is a plus.
@@quadl24 yes, and? So you agree they are right to go after the money?
Therapy, the cost of readjusting life hell idk. All I know is this, you can't drug people without them knowing and if a wrong is done to you why not get paid too
I can't rock with Michael on this one. Not because I know either way if MJ did it or not, but because Michael sounds like he's speaking in slogans and incomplete thoughts.
I'm with Mike on this one
That entire Michael Jackson situation was complete BS. He was definitely psychologically effected by his own childhood trauma which created a certain type of mentality, but I genuinely don't believe he would have done what was accused. Just an all out attack on one of the most talented human beings that ever lived all for the sake of money.
I agree
That situation is deeper than people make it seem… firstly there’s no proof and evidence of him molesting children but the stain from that was and always will be attached to him which is unfortunate.., but How ironic that when Michael wanted out of his contract and no longer wanted to do music or to pay people he randomly started being labeled and framed for molesting children and that was something easy they could do to use against him because he loved children and related more to children and the fact people still use that against that man is beyond disgusting. He’s probably the only celebrity that actually went bankrupt giving away money to help hospitals and give back to children and the homeless etc..
@Watch Video lol Trump? Lol there are a million names you could have said and you chose Trump? Lol!!! What about P Diddy? He was the cause of 2pacs death, BIGs death, he is the reason shine went to prison. He sounds like a shark to me. How about Suge? Suge was definitely a shark! But you chose Trump? You people truly have issues when you allow 1 man to affect your life the way Trump has. I cannot wait until Trump wins the 2024 election and you people go crazy all over again! Lol
It wasn't trauma, it was keeping his mind open to wonderment, so that he could stay in that imagination and creative space that we lose touch with as we get older.
If you are a creative person you understand how important it is to keep that side of brain open.
@@HL-qc5rd You people need to stop having a hissy fit everytime someone mentioned Trump. We need to save our energy for whatever BS the news is talking about next week.
MJW is talking out his ass in this clip, all that matters is evidence. If someone accused him I wouldn't just go "You saying he couldn't have done it?"
Facts he talks out of his ass alot actually u rt 💯
I disagree, I think he's saying you need to be skeptical. Because let's be honest, when someone is accused people already decide if they're guilty or not the second they hear about it.
@@deliciousdallas8555 I agree skepticism is great, but saying so they couldn't have did it is silly, because of course anybody can do anything and there's never absolute truth to tell us for sure if someone did something, the best we have is evidence
@@jahron654 I don't see how it's silly to for him to say that, when a lot of people act like that. Not even just in serious situations, twitter feuds pop off the same way. "This guy who entertains me, who I don't actually know personally is going through some things and I take his side regardless of the situation." That's a stan mindset. Also absolute truth, is just plain truth because if something isn't true it's false. You can't be less true, or more false.
@@deliciousdallas8555 It's silly because it's not an arguement it's like proving a negative it's a pointless thing to say. And by absolute truth I mean something that is true with no degree of uncertainty, which essentially doesn't exist unless we're talking about social constructs
When Michael sat up and his breathing got amped up, Vlad had to start sweating a bit 😂😂
This is a clear example, of what happens when Tv (the media) forms your opinion for you. 2% fact, 98% assumption. Vlad is hitting this man with actual facts, and all of MJW comebacks are hypothetical, and assumptions. I absolutely Hate agreeing with vlad, but facts trump’s personal feelings.
You can say the same thing in reverse.
You are judging people based on your views of them as you think you seen them.
Bill wouldn't cause of ...
Will Smith couldn't cause he is so nice...
Michael Jackson wouldn't cause...
MJW is simply saying the same thing you are.
You can't judge famous people based on what you see.
Vlad should of clapped back with the sarcasm like "there's NEVER been a time when a woman lied about being raped, ever in history". Michael really think it's impossible to convince 60 women to lie when there's millions of dollars involved 😂
Right and Cosby old ass def knocked down over 10,O00 chicks 60 aint nothing
When did 60 women accuse a celebrity of rape before? I'll wait patiently for your answer.
Damn Vlad might have taken the W with this one
I think Vlad did win this one, the fact that Vlad brought up Tyson and Pac and MJW dismissed the point shows that
@@chachorolas923 100%. Once Vlad brought that up, it was a win.
Was u watching the same interview as everyone else ?
He DID
@@wu-bangya4486 Vlad made better points
Good old Vlad. Still found a way to mention Tupac.
If this was Tyler or Spielberg MJW wouldn’t have this energy
I agree there
Vlad always sounds like he's preparing his defense when this issue comes up
He's suspect
Damn, I actually on Vlad side in a debate.... WTF.
I can't believe I'm hearing Vlad actually on MJ and Bill's side for once. But in reality it wasn't siding with them for them, it was more of arguing for the rich. I'm not fooled lol
He has more information now , after interview folks in the know
Youre dumb. He went into details into why he thought MJ was innocent, it sounds like you think he just blindly accuses black men like you blindly defend them.
@@cnsmooth hey Star boy, you talk like you just started watching Vlad. Vlad for years and years has been coming at MJ. Erase your post and I'll think about forgiving you
@@Chali_M lol fucl off. He had that dude that was saying some magazine wanted to him to say Jack touched his kids. Anyway just send me one video Vlad has come at mj. I'm not even saying it hasn't happened I just dont remember seeing it myself
@@cnsmooth actually it's like all of'em. Anytime MJ was brought up, he would go in on him. He didn't stop until the Tom Messaraeu interviews. Plus, I question a man who would sit there and watch Leaving Neverland knowing it was solely made to tear MJ down. A documentary where you sit there and hear lies about explicit boy on boy behavior. Who does that?
I'm not sure if this was a serious debate, but I like that this snippet was an exercise in the laws of logic.
MJW needs to keep them movie roles coming so I get it he can’t be real
Facts 💯
This is a terrible take from MJW. He isn’t even educated enough to know the nuances of the cases, yet, wants to make an opinion and pass it off as fact. Smh.
Until it happens to his ass
This is what all the people do, who believe MJ was guilty. They all just blindly repeat the media bs.
I agree with MJW on this. Vlad sounds like they couldn’t have done it because they’re famous. The sheer number that came forward on Cosby plus insiders knew that was a thing he did back in the day.
MJW would probably not put himself in a situation where he could be setup. He's a smart guy.
I love Michael Jackson, but he should've shut anything with kids down after 1993 when the first family lied.
that would have looked even more suspicious. if helping the children of the world is his passion, why would he stop doing that because someone lied on him? he helped hundreds of thousands of kids and two came up with BS. i’m sure he figured that since he’s not doing anything wrong that this shit wouldn’t blow up as big as it did. They were after Michael for years, if it wasn’t the kids shit they would have came after him for something else
@@CousinPeaches literally everything you said was facts
This comment is spot on, it would have alerted so many people and made him look more guilty. Michael had the purest heart and the best intentions the world killed him in a way when this scandal happened. And it still breaks my heart that all he wanted was to give kids the happiness and freedom to be innocent the way he wished he had been able to in his childhood. Nothing more... I really hope he is resting peacefully away from this world that truly didn’t deserve his kindness and greatness. Heal the world 🌎 I miss him.
Agree 💯. I never heard of MJW. I'm not big on movies/TV. I'm a MJ fan, big time, grew up listening to him. Loved him and Cosby. Grew up with fat Albert. MJW comes off as really, really smart. I don't know what to think.
That’s like telling a woman who got assaulted she should stop going out alone or dressing attractive or drinking else she’s “setting herself up”.. it’s victim blaming
RIP Michael Jackson
That part 🤣
He aint dead i jus saw him
@@skeetinyoureye6484 where
@@badgalsxo in my sons bed we boutta get sum mffinn moniessss 🤑🤑
I get MJW's point but he's acting like all conspiracy theories are never proven true. I bet he still thinks COVID came from a bat
It did
You trolling man, stop it😂😂that shit Fr came from an animal though 👀
Lmaooo let me guess it was man made yet research was done a year ago that proved it couldn’t have been man made but alright
@@97NikeSb research by whom?
And swine flu from pigs and avian from birds ? It's the most obvious and boring origin story ever and that's why the folks who like lizard people stories are determined it WILL NOT be so straight forward.
We have managed something over the last century, get millions of an animal and artificially inseminate them, help them birthing, dehorn them, brand them, shoot bolts in their heads, castrate them, slit their throats and what you will do is pass many trillions of variations of human viruses to them as they pass animal specific viruses onto you and those viruses die out UNLESS there is a spontaneous mutation that supports it surviving in the new host.
There is nothing fancy about a bat virus. We've been here before, this one is just nastier
This guy thinks 60 women were ALL afraid to file criminal charges! 🤦🏾♂️
The most important part of the interview is when he said "if it were your loved one among the 60 women, you'd look at it different"
And if it were your loved one being accused, you'd look at it differently to lol. Stupid point. Works both ways.
@@blacksmith1925 put it on your life that what he said wasn't true
@@LickyTee i literally said it works both ways. If your loved one was accused of rape, you'd look at it differently too. Stupid point among a stupid argument.
@@blacksmith1925 well that's your opinion to name it stupid. Don't act foolish with me, clearly the people denying the allegations outnumbers the ones that accept it. All in the name of being "fans".
I'm just saying, those same "fans" wouldn't treat the situation the same way when a loved one is involved.
I've seen this in real life, it's human nature. Humans are always judging what another person should or shouldn't do in a situation. I've seen rapper's fans tell them to kill people, or encourage it. Yet when that same rapper kills your mother, you want everybody to feel your pain. Take it however you want, I stand on what I said
@@LickyTee i don't have to be foolish with you because you are foolish enough for the both of us. You're all over the place. One minute you're talking about "what he said is true" while ignoring its true for both sides. The next minute you claim ppl only believe Bill because they're fans. Show me the data or evidence that ppl only believe Bill because they're fans and not because - like Vlad said - they've looked at the evidence and it doesn't add up. Youre free to talk out of your ass but not with me✌🏾
The amount of time he spends on Vlad, he could’ve went back to acting school.
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Or fought that MMA fighter who called him the N word. Seeing as how he believes anyone who hasn't fought professionally isn't qualified to call themselves a fighter. Of course he doesn't hold himself to the same standard.
@@elijaharvinger8711 real talk
@@firekingcrip dude why would Micheal Jai white go back to school when he worth millons lol
@@malikwilson7387 you clearly haven’t seen any movies he’s been in, to comment that.
This was a great discussion back and forth, love it when MJW is on. I have to go with Vlad on this one though.
@@the44118 I wouldn’t say he’s wrong, there’s always two sides to every story, and we’ve been hearing both sides concerning the Cosby case. Personally, I don’t have a dog in the fight so no bias on my end. I’ve read and listened to both sides (Cosby and the women) and came out having the same outlook as Vlad.
"Will The 👮 Rather Bust Michael Jai White, Or Michael The Bus Driver?" 😭😂😂😂
When surviving never land came out vlad was saying Mike did it...but now since Godfrey and others put him hip now he believes Mike didn't do it 🤣😂
Not a Vlad fan but, he didn't say that. Go watch the video again.
@@olliwest7341 yes he did...he said it to Godfrey and lord jamar
Whats the point in having a mind, if you can't change it.
This proves how cluless mjw is, and has been everytime he's on Vlad‼️💯
@iron islam ....🤣🤣🤣 woke brotha??? If that's your opinion of him that's fine, i TOTALLY DISAGREE and from listening to him on all the interviews I've heard i can't see how someone could think that‼️💯 Vlad didn't manipulate anything, He Actually was very Transparent in his responses‼️💯 i guess we just agree to Disagree my brotha‼️💯
@iron islam .......So What‼️💯 once again your opinions don't have anything to do with mine‼️💯 I have my OWN opinions and in MY opinion he is very MISINFORMED, Kinda full of it, and i don't see any WOKENESS in anything he's talking about as far what I've seen on Vlad‼️💯 How you think and what you think means absolutely nothing to me‼️💯 like i said we agree to disagree, and that's that...i COMPLETELY Disagree with you‼️💯
Lol 😂
Michael Jackson will always be the GOAT
Bruce Springsteen was greater.
Freddy Mercury too.
@@Tourist-Q. oh, ok
@@BlackConnection337
Yes
@@Tourist-Q. fa sho
@@Tourist-Q. lmaooo
Vlad put his audio louder so it made it seem like he’s out shouting him hahaha
Please stop saying these debates are "Heated". These conversations are light as hell
These interviews have shown me that MJW isn't that smart
Very smart and great acting too 💪🏾
He's actually very smart just not on that Hollywood BS
I never thought I’d side with Vlad. Michael is bugging! Whomever it is that he personally knows that he’s defending…tell them they shouldn’t be at a playboy mansion where drugs are freely given as part of the experience, as well as sex being the main objective at a “sex mansion”. Then to top it off, wait 40 some odd years to come out about so called rape.
Preach
I think Michael was mostly in a child like state, and all his ppl tried to accommodate that. then some parents got greedy, accused him of abuse, and it looked really bad. Michael was strange, but you have to consider his life, how he was abused, and how he was controlled. it's very similar to how Britney Spears has been treated.
Right MJ was a big ass kid for many reasons that most ppl know about. He related to kids more but nobody ever pilled him aside and say hey all these kids around dont look cool and explain to him why and thats how got hemmed up.
i always thought honestly he was so abused as a chikd he wanted to make sure kids were happy. But nobody knows.
you can't compare MJ's life to Britney's. MJ had full control of the money and elements of his life. From what we're learning about Britney she didn't. MJ was a shrewd in business negotiations so let's not continue with this story of him being a victim. He could still be a phenomenal artist without the lost childhood title.
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Michael was a savant. Extremely gifted in music/dance and that's all he knew. There was definitely a degree of autism about him.
If he stuck with his family more, he wouldn't have been accused of those allegations. He was surrounded by too many white people, who were yes men.
Evidence proves he didn't do it. He beat the case that lasted 5 months. So it's not even a debate anymore. But anyone associated with him, will accuse him of abuse when they need money. Including the likes of Mcauley Culkin.
I like the thinking and thought process behind Michael Jai White, I really think he needs to do his own type of interview talkshow or podcast.
These people really show there colors in vlad interviews. Vlad is first 48. They really know how to get it out of people. Gotta give him his credit.
First time Vlad Beat MJW in a debate!!!!
Vlad doesn't even need a guest. He can just interview himself for two hours.
*Vlad* switch up his stance....
A year ago he was saying *Michael Jackson* and *Bill Cosby* were guilty, after the *Tom Mesereau* interview his views totally changed.....🤔
Probably because he did his research
Imagine that. Changing your opinion when you're presented with new information from an expert.
I see what Mike is saying and he is playing devils advocate and taking things into consideration but in these cases I agree with vlad
Lol I think Vlad got the W on this one. MJW should already know how you got a target on your back as a black male celeb. ANYBODY can get caught up in lies and accusations.
MJW had it right when he said MJ couldn't have done it because he wrote Thriller LMAO, speak on it MJW! I'm so tired of people acting like MJ wasn't a pedo. Please!
How are all u guys in the comment section so stupid, mjw point is dont just use that as the defence to say it couldnt possibly ever happen just cuz u could be a target for being famous what kind of stupid simplistic thinking is that lol if ur not sure dont take a side till ur deep into things u guys brush things off so quickly like idiots
@@kinkane5566 on what proof you got to say he did it?
@@izzydizzysworld1803 He made his damn house a fantasy land for children and on multiple occasions slept with little boys in the same bed AND has been accused multiple times by multiple of those little boys. It's one thing if out of nowhere you get accused of something that doesn't seem to fit with you and the rest of your life and how you live. It's another thing entirely when you LOOKE LIKE you are molesting boys, you are WEIRD AF and SEEM like a molester, and when you are accused MULTIPLE TIMES by multiple little boys - who you DID in fact sleep in the same bed with admittedly and a strange theme park house called Neverland Ranch. I mean for f__ks sake. At this point sure... it's POSSIBLE that you are innocent, but it looks 99% like you're guilty. I mean it's like standing outside of the liquor store that just got robbed with a ski mask on, a bag full of cash, and a 40oz drink in your hand, with a pistol in the other. It's just stupid to think he's innocent.
Michael is very analytical and smart fellow 👏
Glad to see that vlad is finally defending mike instead of shitting on him. He prolly did research after the Tom meserau interview
Believe so. Vlad always though MJ was guilty, maybe by interviewing Tom Mez and Scott Ross( the investigator of MJ’s case),Vlad stated doing some research.
Man, respect for vlad for keeping it real about MJ.
It's amazing how dumb of an argument MJW tried to put to say MJ's guilty.
MJ was 100% innocent and I'm not saying this because I like his music, put music to the side and just look at the case with an open mind.
There's literally no evidence that Michael was guilty yet there's massive massive concrete evidence that MJ was innocent.
For y'all I recommend watching Razorfist's rebuttals and Square one documentary as a start.
MJ was completely innocent.
Rip MJ 👑
After seeing numerous interviews with MJW, i see he has that Steven Seagal thing. He’s a bit insecure and believes his own stuff. He has a hard time removing himself out of what’s real and what’s a movie. He carry’s himself as I’m a badass, i know it all, and been through it all. He can’t lose. Whether it’s a fight, movie, or debate. Here, even with no real argument to plead his case, he still can’t let vlad win. Even when he talks about a time he lost or got caught up in a fight/sparring it’s a big deflection, more so as a joke to end with a BUT. “But i did this though” “but it was funny situation” He know damn well MJ was innocent and that Vlad is killing him in the argument. But again, he can’t lose. And i wanted to spar with this man 🤦🏾♂️
Plus his argument of keep trying to say “but Michael got off for being famous” is dismissive and weird asf.. there’s so much damn proof and evidence Michael never harmed not one soul. And plus he does realize he’s famous… so if someone tomorrow wanted to makeup something and accuse him of something as serious as rape it’ll be beyond lame if he’s innocent but feel like people are gonna run with a narrative that he only won a case because he’s famous.
Eh, I don't agree with MJW here as he's going for a emotional response then a logical one but I also disagree with the way you are describing him. I think he's said some things in these interviews that contradict him "carrying himself as the badass know it all, who has to win." This was just a bad take on his part. As someone else said, he claims he knows victims of Bill Cosby so he probably just has a bias. I've watched every interview with him and I think he seems like a humble guy overall and I'd love to spar with him.
He is not going by logic or the “evidence” in the cases against MJ. He’s is bigoted and closed minded. It’s his way and what he feels. Very disappointed. He thinks because we don’t want to believe it “because he sang Thriller!” NO because all of his accusers (only 6 out of thousands of kids he’s been around) are proven liars.
Dudes a weirdo. Wouldn’t hang around this dude for five minutes. “Aight y’all I’m out peace!” He got feminine tendencies. And I guarantee you mostly white friends who are intimidated by him.
Agreed. At this point, I want to see him in a real fight. I'm starting to like Vlad more than him and that's not good.
"Hard to prove"??? Since when the US requires a proof to accuse, sentence, incarcerate or kill a black man for "rape"?
The weird thing is, though Jai White insists on the accusation, he doesn't affirm Why he's so convinced, nor does he acknowledge that Jackson was fully acquitted - Why is he so certain that Jackson was guilty, regardless...?
Why is Vlad trying to make a definitive statement on one of the most nebulous topics in modern history?
"He couldn't have done it" Okay, so if he could've done it, he did it? Vlad tried to argue why Michael isn't guilty. Michael tries to argue why Michael could be guilty. That's how women argue 😅
Nigga that’s how everybody argues tf
@@dieu5041 Nah. Men argue with facts, not with hypotheticals, cynicism, and "is that what you mean?"
@@dieu5041 definitely NOT how everyone argues. Speak for yourself lol
Is anyone else being distracted by the left side of the screen being fucked up?
MJWB sounds like Terry Crews
MJW theories are bordering on somewhat the same ideologies of Terry Crews.
No Just cause he don't agree on these specific cases don't make him Crews.
He says their good friends.
Bro stop mj and bill cosby were great men but yall fanboying
@@divineintervention212 😂😂that clears it up a bit for me
This why I love Michael white 💯🎯🏁
Michael Jai White: Isn't this guy gonna give me a chance to talk?!
Chris Tucker was Epstein’s guest on the Lolita Express, flying around the world with teenage girls. Not a great example Vlad.
lol exactly
He was going to a charity event in Africa with Bill Clinton, I don’t think he even knew much about Epstein. Epstein hung out with celebrities to chase clout, not all of them were his clients.
…but why WOULDN’T you want the money TOO? You see the person who wronged you getting away with it snd living the life. You’d want to take his money AND lock him up, right? I’m not saying who did or didn’t do what…I’m saying that the money aspect doesn’t affect what happened one way or the other.
Well the first time MJ paid out, they dropped the criminal charges, settled out of court for a big bag of money and didn't have any interest in seeing him locked up after they got their money, lol. MJ did it under the advisement of his management at the time who thought it was better to try to make it go away before his big tour rather than go through the trouble/drama/etc of defending his actual innocence in court (which MJ later referred to as the biggest mistake of his life,) so others thought they could do the same and get a payday. That's why Vlad brings up this point. He interview MJ's lawyer in the past and had this explained to him.
I think you missed the point. IF the criminal case is won, the civil is automatic. So, it would behoove a “victim” to have a criminal conviction first. The problem is, a lot of “victims” are charlatans, and they know they have no evidence to win a conviction; if they get cross examined, their stories would fall apart. It’s much easier to sell a lie like rape to court of opinion and get awarded money.
@@Kdotkon no, you definitely missed the point. It’s harder to get a conviction. The criminal process is entirely out of your hands, it’s up to the prosecutor who doesn’t care as much as you (the victim) or your attorney…the reason it’s “automatic” after a conviction is because it’s much harder to get a conviction. The standard is beyond a reasonable doubt vs preponderance of the evidence in a civil suit. So if the prosecutor can’t or won’t get a conviction or if there’s a plea bargain to a lesser charge why would that dissuade you from filing suit?
Of course if they get the conviction first and it makes the suit easier- you use that. That’s obvious. But that doesn’t always happen, not even usually. Sometimes money is all you can get even if it’s a poor substitute for justice. My point was pretty simple: as the victim who’s had their life destroyed you’d want both…the conviction AND the money. Filing a lawsuit doesn’t magically make you any more or less credible, but the fact is most legitimate victims WOULD file suit. Btw: a false accuser would also want a conviction to make their suit easier…in fact even more so, since they’re relying on false testimony and no other real evidence.
@@treedillinger5801 LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It’s not “harder” to get a conviction. Keep lying to yourself. History has shown that women coming forward tend to get convictions if the case is moved forward ESPECIALLY if specific races are involved. It’s harder to get victims to come forward. That’s the difference. So, nah, I didn’t miss a single point, your point was just inaccurate. In rape cases, the system tends to favor women. You can keep playing yourself if you want to, but there are plenty of cases where women lied about a rape and the man was still convicted with no evidence, just her word against the guy’s. 🤷🏿♂️ but go off
@@Kdotkon you have no idea what you’re talking about. You’re taking little tidbits and inventing your own reality and arguing with yourself . You brought up “automatically” winning the lawsuit. I stated a simple fact: the reason for that is because a conviction needs to HIGHER standard of proof: beyond a reasonable doubt. All your nonsense about it being easy to get a conviction is absolutely irrelevant, even if you were right. We’re talking about the higher standard of proof. Again: OBVIOUSLY if you can get a conviction first and make the suit easier you use that. That’s more true for a false accuser who has no evidence than a legitimate victim!
My point is really quite simple, and it’s a matter of fact, not opinion. There is nothing to debate. Most legitimate victims file suit and the act of filing the lawsuit doesn’t make you inherently more or less credible. Period.
Michael is flat out wrong in this argument.
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Nope. You’re wrong.
Smart move by Michael's attorney regardless. He used a state law to get his client off. All it costed was a lot of money.
@@thxalotobama9343Actually, I’m Sin City Quinn. Nice to meet you, Idiot.
Vlad changes like the weather. He used to say Micheal j.did it.he used to say easy e was the first to shout out his gang.he used to say he don't pay for interviews.
I would call it informing oneself. He realized that what he believed may very well be wrong and he's owning up to it.
It's almost like Michael insists that they all did it, however, he must be careful, being famous he could also be accused of something and this absolute stance he is taking may come back to bite him. People do falsely accuse.
5:11 "It's a very hard thing to prove"
Yeah... so let's make it easier to throw people in prison without evidence like ordering a cheese burger. Basically a participation trophy for rape charges. It's supposed to be excruciatingly hard.
Did he say let's make it easier? Honestly this comments section is a fucking mess.
"I want the truth to be out there idc about the money"Lol vlad right about that we wont ever see it
Michael continuously over and over and over again throughout this entire interview kept sarcastically commenting "oh they couldn't have done it because they're famou" as though that's what Vlad was saying. Vlad never said in fact he kept saying over and over again that he's not saying it's impossible that these men are guilty he's just saying it's not impossible that all these people are lying as well and every time Vlad begins to make a strong point Michael goes back to his cookie cutter sarcasm first grade b******t and says they "couldn't have done it cuz they're famous" as though once again that's what's Vlad was saying which it wasn't. Michael deflected throughout this whole interview because he had no fucking points!
It started with Vlad saying Tucker testified, with emphasis on it. Like it mattered. It is also a direct counter to Vlad saying it is a 'money grab', just because they are rich and famous it's a money grab? It is a dumb argument and that is what White is pointing out. They could not have done it because they are famous so automatically people want something from them. That is Vlads argument, White is repeating that simplified. And he is correct. You can also see the slight smile on whites face when Vlad started about how he also got sued and had to settle, ''they just wanted money''. My friend, if you did not do it you do not settle, you fight it in court. Just like JD did when he was made out to be a abuser and rapist. If you are innocent that is a free paycheck brother. Also note White never once stated that all these women are telling the truth. Where there is smoke, there is fire. I personally don't believe MJ was a child rapist, but I do believe Cosby raped at least a handfull of these women. And Vlad probably did do what he was sued for, because he is claiming all of them are trying to get money, in every single case. Wich is an obvious overzealous way to look innocent himself.
He won't understand until someone accuse him of shit he never did