NBA 2K25 New Builder thoughts
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Should "Do-It-All" Builds exist on NBA 2K25?
nah
Yes if people spend $200+ just to play 2k we should be able to do anything we want
Nope@@KingOfCleveland32
Yes
Im fine with do it all builds as long they are alright on shooting not great, so a all around build can be good on finishing, playmaking and defense but they shouldn't shoot lights out, i think it can be done properly if wingspan have a big effect on your dunking and shooting attributes like if you want high dunk then you're limited to 70's shooting to have a balance that way they can impact a lot of areas as all around builds but can't match a shooting build.
People were happier in 2k20 because the park/ rec system was better. Vc was more affordable and your build didn't cost 100 dollars to complete. You could actually grind it out. Not the creator.
100%
You still can grind it just takes a lot longer, I grinded out one of my center builds and it took like a week, not to mention getting bored and playing something else. After that I just opted to buying vc so idk
Facts I remember in 2k20 I played pro am with my friends for a few hours and made enough vc in that short amount of time to upgrade a 60 overall center to a 73 and it was usable in park
@@Kdsburner735facts
2k needs to stop nerfing defense out of the game. The game is always as close to balanced at launch. All 24 needed was a slight nerf to steals and it was fine but they always go too far and we end up with what we have now. A slidey broken mess with contested shots/layups going in at a high rate.
100%
I been saying this for years, 2k has been doing this for a long time. Defense is great at launch, then after the first update they completely nerf it to appeal to offense.
They nerf it cus the community starts crying
Just say u suck at defense bro 💀
People cry and then they change it
I feel like “do it all builds” have always existed even with pie charts. For example, the two way slashing playmaker in 2k20 could do everything including shooting
Best of how gameplay was, ppl was greening corner shots with 70 3pt
@@madeinnolawhats wrong with greening with a 70 3 in the corner?
@@StickyFingerssliterally nothing lmao
@@StickyFingerssit only gets bad when it starts getting lower than that.
Bro those weren’t do it all builds at all, u couldn’t even make a tall guard without having trash low 70s stats in every category
2k20 was the best because the build names and attributes actually meant the same thing, and even when you wouldnt have high finishing or shooting you could still do that if you were skilled enough. And everyone made their builds strictly based around what they were GOOD at, not just what they wanted to do. And those All-Around builds for casuals and people who wanted to do everything were still good enough to use.
2k20 had the best arcade style play but everybody abused certain aspects of their build and then it kept getting tweaked w n nerfed in ways
I still believe there should be “Do it all” builds. It doesn’t matter if there is or isn’t as well, people were still running a 5 out in rec center shooting 3s, but they did not possess a certain skill which made it easier to win, but it’s fun to go up against “Do it all” builds and actually be tested on your defensive IQ. There is always a way to beat a basketball player, you just gotta find the weakness whether if it’s they can’t dribble, they are not looking for their shot, or they do not like to go inside. BASKETBALL IS BASKETBALL.
The problem is your lowest attributes should be 50-60s minimum, no reason the nba player I spend $200 on should have a 25 stat in anything 2k is the only game people want your players to be mid. If everyone has a “do it all” build it shows who’s better MORE than feeling like oh X person just beat me bc they have a “meta’ or much more better build. If we’re on equal footing and I stomp you there’s no excuses get better. Go back and look at the 2k15 and 16 attributes, best builder ever.
Completely disagree I think they should go the opposite direction and allow you to get as low as a 1 rating on attributes you never intend on using.
@@javongreen8492bums love having stuff so they can easily score it’s that simple. Since bums are the only thing keeping 2k alive they’ll keep making the bums which are easier to manipulate happy. A mf will shoot maybe 1-2 shots a game but he has a 92 3pt because he can and now you have to respect it so he could easily just keep bulldozing lay ups or dunking like Ja Morant, Russel Westbrook, Lebron super baby
The simple solution to making 2k great is to allow defensive badges to be just as powerful as offensive badges, give everybody a buff to lateral quickness, and may the better team win
Defense is broken. Do you even play guard it is by far the worst position nowadays. Unless you have the very meta build with $100 worth of vc just for Gatorade boosts and Shooting boosts you aren’t doing nothing at a comp level game is so dumbed down it’s insane
@@IsoEnzo My point exactly. Defense is so trash
@@SBzKillFrenzy if you know how to play defense in 24 it’s a little too easy to get a stop you bump them once get the hands on animation and wait for a dribble move then tap square. They need to make it to where highly offensive players don’t have crazy defense this 2-way meta for the last couple of years is so boring.
15/16 had most freedom and players felt like actual superstars. Also most fun imo and only $20 to make them a 90 ovrl.
If you take a 99 ovrl my player on the last few 2ks it only turns out to be a mid 80 ovrl in create a player. $50 for a good role player essentially is tough. Rewarding us with 10 extra badges could be worth it though like on 2k20 but make it superstar and not legend.
@@OptimusSlime404 actually a 75 overall on 24,worst 2k ever
What ever they do, we need to be able to test it so they can make adjustments before release. 2k needs beta testing not only by Content creators but regulars as well
Just one of the six thousand features they removed from old 2Ks 🤣
people don't like "do it all" builds because its creates a real skill gap and exposes them . bring the skill gap back pleeeeasseee.
@@Coridumdum big facts, bring back 2k14 -16
Just hope attributes matter this year.
If I am making a lock that is faster, stronger I want to be rewarded if going against an inexperienced dribbler..
I mean it felt that way in 24 idk why most of y’all say that
@@thakidgaming6435if they make defense any stronger then u might as well make a pure slasher with a midrange every year won’t even need dribbling just speed game is starting to get very wack
@@IsoEnzo exactly which is what made most slasher builds a problem but speed and speed with ball should just be one thing rather two separate attributes. Same with acceleration
when we going realize that the only reason there was variety builds in 20 was because low 3 point ratings can shoot efficiency. in order to really see variety builds, the meta has to change drastically
I am pro “do it all” builds. No matter what kind of build system we have there will be a meta. I rather have a “do it all” build and lose because of my lack of skill, vs just my teams build lineup is just worse. With a “do it all” if I mess up, it’s on me because my build doesn’t have the limitations as a more niche, specialized build does. Skill expression > the fake “skill diversity”.
Another thing to add, is “do it all” builds add more diversity. If someone can dribble, pass, shoot, and dunk, you have to be cautious about all these things. They could change their play style on a fly, and the game can feel different. Vs a slasher will only really be able to slash, and that specific game will be stale. If I have the skill to be able to do everything let me do everything. Limiting my build limits my play style and creates less diverse gameplay.
This is just cap in 2K19 my squad ran Pure Sharp, Pure Stretch, and Pure Glass Cleaner and we pulled up on streamers constantly and won all of us had 90 Win%. Giving bums options to do everything just makes the game have 99% more bailouts like every game of 24 results in some bum point guard doing unguardable spam Stepbacks or bulldozer lay ups not one dribble move they shoot when they wide and get bully animations you can’t guard even with strength and interior defense lmfao
@@IsoEnzo You chose a hyper specific example that doesn’t disprove my point?? Like you all won congrats? But what did you stretch sharp do? Only shoot? Sounds really boring to defend.
@@PeakedYrsAgo it’s not hyper specific, my point was in the older games their was never a time you lost because of a build you had. Also I spot up on my stretch and help with rebounds I could shoot deep and contested. The sharp got screens and when he was hot he was able to dribble and shoot extremely deep. Glass cleaner was amazing because most ppl that year ran 2 locks and a play sharp. We had rebounds, we had chemistry to get stops, and we had lights out offense. Do it all builds take away the skill from the game we had a different line up and played differently but won because we understood the game and our builds. Nowadays ppl will have a 90+ 3 pt and don’t even shoot consistently but always have it in their back pocket when their opponents have to respect the rim run because if they don’t they’ll get dropped off by dunking but the moment they play for it they get a little space and then start shooting it’s aids and boring af. I’ve been doing this 2k shi for a long time. I understand the game on a deep level (KEYWORDS: THE GAME). “But lebron could play defense, shoot, dunk, and dribble so I should” this is not real life if you want realism got pick up a basketball. This realism talk and the builder is ruining 2k to an unfixable state.
No they needa just make you pick yo core badges first then your attributes go off that . Certain
Amount of badges for each level.
Good idea until we are 2 weeks into the game and a certain 5 core badges are INSANELY superior to the other badges so you are a disadvantage to make anything else and if you do you’ll feel it
I rather restrict players because only the best players can operate outside the confines of the restrictions. Which could effectively create an actual skill gap instead of a build gap.
Just give us Superstar Builds 🤦 if you play All Star Team up it’s not even like a player is op. every body is on the same level fr with only small differences
That’s boring. When archetypes were a thing everyone had their own cheese to score efficiently. Contact dunks were hype, pure greens were fun because they shot contested and deep, playmakers were gas because they dribbled like demons, and shot creators were cheesy in general.
@@ksisniipez facts, I think the people that want role player builds are the ones who are cones on defense
i think attributes should be cheaper below 80 and more expensive above 90. Tons of nba players can do most things at a 60-70 level and i feel like the myplayer builder has never reflected that well.
to be fair NBA players in 2k have significantly less badges than myplayers do even for things that they have a higher rating in than a myplayer would especially in 2k24 where all you need to do to get a badge is meet the requirement.
THANK YOU
If everyone can do everything then it's pointless just a full court of lebrons hoping for animations
Back in my day you had to actually get a stop by defense now u wait u til they do one dribble move and tap square shit is ass unless you are a pure red you should not be able to even get any where above 75 steal frfr
People talk about 2k20 variety but once people found out…..EVERYBODY had a two-way slashing playmaker.
Starting to miss pie charts
With pie charts one game you guard pure playmaker that’s using his speed to get to goal to go up or pass out
then, a 2 way slasher, shot creator or pure sharp
New builder there’s no real mismatches, every game feel too similar, only main difference is if the other team can shoot good or mediocre
I hear your point bro, But PLEASE, NO PIECHARTS AGAIN!!!!LMFAO🤣🤣🤣🤣
2k should introduce some sort of save file slot system that allows players to customize attributes or "skill layout" and play as their myplayers except locked at a certain overall such as 75, 85, etc.
That way there can be 3v3/ 5v5 modes put in the game that only allow players of certain attribute thresholds to play. If you want to play as your full potential 99 overall "do it all" myplayer, you can do so in other modes that have no overall restriction. This can be a potentially plausible solution to those who want to play very role based vs those who want to play like superstars.
We should have archetypes with names that tells you what a player is. A “sharpshooter” should be shooting very well and not dunking on people like a slasher
We had that before and everyone complained they wanted builds that could do it all.
@@FonkedUpProductionsit’s the new 2k community they finally are able to score and win easily.
there’s plenty of sharps that have postered somebody though. that name doesn’t stop a player from playing there game to there ability
@@ceaseinthebuilding Hench I said “like a slasher” meaning they shouldn’t be able to do it consistently
@@ceaseinthebuilding it’s a video game it needs balance and strategy for replayability and fun
The thing is I’m fine with limiting the builds but go down once more on the vc to make builds so we can at least have a lot of builds to cycle thru. But if it’s gonna be more expensive to make player this yr like the yr before this one then I need do it all builds to be in the builder
I really enjoyed the builder from last year. I had a 6’3 guard that was able to get an 85 offense rebound. I can barely get 60 this year
Would prefer a more limited builder for balance. Since 2k21 6’7-6’9 builds are far too easy to use and do everything with. We are talking about how good this builder is, but I don’t know a single point the 2k community has enjoyed 2k before 21. It’s clear that this builder is impossible to balance while also being very easy to make an unoptimized build with
2ks gonna be like
"No do it all builds make 5 builds that cost 200k each to max to do each thing at an elite level 1 thing at a time."
Or
"Yes do it all builds will be coming back, 600k vc per build and were nerfing all ways of getting vc by 15%"
That’s the biggest misconception the old builder you were a role player but in the right hands you could do everything literally but a bum wasn’t just doing one crossover and slamming the ball or shooting off of the same Stepback 9 times in a row the “comp” now are actual bums in older games
They need to make speed actually matter. When i have a superfast 6 ft 4 point guard and I can't outrun a 6 ft 9 power forward that weighs 290 lb there's something really wrong. And I don't care how good their perimeter defenses if I'm a small guard with high ball handle larger players should not be able do withstand the effects of highball handle
There should be a evolution build system where your player starts off as a propsect and the actions you take in your mycareer gives you points to add to that attrubite instead of everyone is a shooter but they can't shoot as long as buy to 99 3 ball it makes up for being trash...so basically if you want to be a shooter you gotta hit to get stats versus just buying everything to be 3 level scorer so you get less attrubites to start but gotta earn unlocks by performing in game online to a certain degree of course
Yes, we will have "do it all" builds. It happens every year, around the same heights too lol. I agree we should have to work for it though.
Park dribble combos and work on the steal attr and animations barely see ppl who make a good nuff playmaker who actually makes ppl fall down and crazy layup animations for park
I’m retired if to create a character cost 200 I’m done / and the grind isn’t needed I only make 1 build a year cause the grind is ridiculous - I came to play not grind I already grind in real life
do it all build is this games version of what happens to most all successful games which is a dumbing down. they want more money so they try to appeal to a younger crowd
I totally agree with the idea that legends should be the only ones with "do-it-all" builds.
21 next gen builder was coo. Felt more like a generational talent player instead of a lower 80 overall disguised as a 99
2k23 on xbox one had the best build system ever! They need to go back to it
They said this year was going to be similar to 2k20. Look at what we got it.
My comment made it to the video. I can finally rest lol.
Just go back to how it was in 2k13 and make it more skilled based on
Honestly I thought the builder was pretty good this year. I like how we can customize individual attributes to cater to our playstyles. Yes you can make builds that are well rounded and can "do it all" but you still have to make sacrifices somewhere and to be elite take a certain level of skill. Hope they make some improvements though. I hate badge regression that needs to come out. And maybe rethink certain animation height thresholds i.e. jumpshots and fade jumpers
Builder is garbage
If you make a build catered to your playstyle better stay in the solo rec because you bring it anywhere else you’ll see why ppl say the builder sucks ass🤣
@@IsoEnzo everyone has their own opinion but I play squaded most of the time🤷🏿♂️
2k24 I made a build for every slot and did the daily challenges/easy weekly with it and built the first player up. Then built the 2nd up and so on. Ended up with a 92 overall at every position that did exactly what I wanted plus a lockdown and a play sharp pg. All 92 and did not buy VC. The VC was insane with this but just took a little time. Hopefully they do the same and it is $5 again this year.
Pie charts for new player , actual builder for players that play a lot
Badges attributes balance with correct explanation for both(new and returning players)
Hot zones for shooting but badges that helps
No green or miss
Events on the week( 24 is boring as hell because of that imo)
Objectives like 99 or legend or whatever that keeps us interested all year
And it should be a good game
I think the "Do it all builds" should depend on who specifically you are trying to play like. For example, for people that try to make like a LBJ, D-Wade, PG, Luka or Embiid(just a few examples), obviously most people would consider them all around threats, which sounds overpowered. However, allow players to make them stupidly overpowered to the point where everyone's making the same exact build, all in one park or rec, etc. There has to be some sort of limitation, but don't make it too compromising to the point where players end up scrapping their build entirely for a new one. Another example, I attempted to make a semi-prime version of a Russell Westbrook build, but I had to compromise my speed, acceleration, speed with ball, and finishing attributes around the 80-87 mark to make the best possible build. Shooting was at a 75 3pt and a 66 Mid range, defense was at an 85, rebounding was a 67. I also did my best to make a Miles Bridges build, and a Paul George Build.
Being in the builder and finding out what you can add and which thresholds to hit is one of the funniest things about 2k, pie charts ruin that
There just needs to be a better builder that encourages people to be more specialized. The meta is to have high steal which does not seem to be penalized due to mashing square/X its just limited and a horrid capacity of what the game needs to be. A kinda realistic game that has strategy and if all the strategy is the same for even pro tier players it's a problem with the game.
@@theangelispro bro 24 is the most specialized its ever been,u barely have any attributes to work with,I've plugged all my players in the player creator on 24 and they equal out to low 70's player,in previous 2ks it would be in the 80's
@@StickyFingerss so you’re not wrong, the mynba builder and the mycareer are different but they do include intangibles as a factor for overalls. But the thresholds are not possible with making say a lebron build or a wemby build in my career. I’d like for it to mirror actual players overalls to make builds. It’s just very imbalanced with the current approach. So having actual roles and such is what I refer to in specialization. Too many people have the same builds with no real weakness because of the horrid game. I average nearly a steal a game with 25 steal… that shouldn’t be a thing lmao.
@@StickyFingerssyou make anything besides the meta build in 24 you won’t enjoy the game unless you are okay with losing 5/8 games every time you play lmfao
@@IsoEnzo I didn't enjoy 24 at all,I went back to 23 two months in
@@StickyFingerss yea the community don’t know what they’re asking for, it’s a reason they asked for superstar builds during the 17 through 20 era
If I spend $200+ on a build, I'm gonna want it to do everything. I'm for the do it all builds in my opinion. I feel like builder in 24 is limited when compared to other 2ks
If you think 24 is limited you might have 2 brain cells and they are fighting eachother for the top spot
@eyesoenzo lmao I feel you. I literally said in my opinion tho.
I’d like the builder to be i between 23 and 24.
I think we should be able to have the freedom to make unique builds, for me I feel it makes the game more enjoyable when I can make builds that are unique, of course there should be limitations but we should be able to get creative, let me make a Westbrook type of PG with high rebounding or a 5’8 PG with 99 dunk and high speed/ball control, it wouldn’t be a comp build but you can’t tell me I wouldn’t have a hell of a time dunking on people with a 5’8 PG or a 7ft iso player now of course there’s gotta be sacrifices but it would be cool to make a 7ft build with something like 75 ball control solid dribble animations and a good enough 3pt rating with more jumpshot animations
lol he put my comment in the video 😂
2k20 made 3 builds and maxed all of them was so fun two 7’3’s and a 6’9 full lock with slashing loved the build variety I can count on one hand the amount of times I’ve played 2k24 park and every time it’s the same builds so insanely boring
I do enjoy 24’s mycarrer just not the online aspect because i decided to not make a meta build
Hated the pie system for real. Just let me detail my player how i want. Honestly don't know if ill even play 25. 2k so greedy its disgusting.
Imo archetypes were the best builders out
not going lie tutes i think the builder 2K25 would be like 23 and 24 just because we know once 2K start something they won't stop but if they somehow make it where we have our strength and weaknesses like you said i think that would make the game more fun and challenging but end of the day we just have to wait and see in the end. w video.
The formula they had for 2k17-2k19 was perfect: have an archetype system but don’t make the archetypes too restrictive
In 17-19 your lowest attribute was maybe a 60, but in current day, you have multiple attributes at or around 25…
17-19 had a perfect balance of having a distinct role on the team that made you elite in that category, but also do other things on the court decently like a damn 99 overall nba player should be able to do
All they have to do is bring back the system from 17-19 but add some nuance like grinding for cap breakers to boost attribute caps even more, or maybe adding skill trees similar to NBA Live 19 that mold playstyles even more. For instance, in NBA Live a Hakeem build would give his team a defensive boost for scoring in a pick and roll. Fun/cool shit like that
With how 2k made the last couple of games the players with brains left and they picked up a whole new crowd that don’t know 2k for the video game they know basketball in real life and they want to and are going to ruin the game it’s inevitable fr
I have a 6'8" "do it all" build. 70 layup, 40 driving dunk, 81 standing, 92 post control, 93 mid, 86 3pt, 81 freethrow, 77 pass, 85 handle, 61 interior, 87 perimeter, 85 steal, 79 block, 60 o reb, 45 Def reb, 83 speed, 73 acc, 84 strength, 63 vert, 99 Stam.
It's pretty good at everything, the only thing I'd say it's dominant with is midrange/post shots. But I can't contact dunk anyone, I can't shoot from 30+ feet consistently without takeover, I'm not breaking ankles every 3 moves, etc. It's not amazing, it's not bad. It's an okay, fun build.
In 2k21 we could poster, shoot limitless, handle, and play defense with maxed physicals.
Totally different, imo.
It’s not what people make it’s how it can be broken majority of people besides old heads watch build videos so they don’t waste money they are doing everything meta build has like a 92 3pt, 91 driving dunk, and meta dribbles and defense it’s ass af
That is not a "do it all build" you litteraly can't rebound or dunk so you had to sacrifice those attributes. Having to sacrifice means weakness and people claim these builds have no weakness
@@rares-ti7vb bro said I could play make, play defense, shoot, and dunk on ppls heads but I can’t rebound so I’m not a do it all
@@IsoEnzo do it all means actually doing it all if you can't rebound you don't do everything
Great though on the video I believe that's how the game should be
My 6'5 2way-sharp in 2k20 could do it ALL. You had to be good at building to make a all around and be at least decent at everything.
Idc what anyone says, the “do it all” builder needs to continue to be the build system. Why tf would anyone wanna make a one dimensional build? To make things more realistic? F that, i wanna have fun being able to make my players as “all around” as possible. While also giving people the choice to specialize on one thing or multiple. If you’re complaining about the current builder its either because you’re having trouble defending players or you yourself are struggling
wouldn’t be realistic there’s 100 do it alls in the nba right now
@@ceaseinthebuilding yea but people feel like every player on 2k shouldn’t be able to do everything. Which is the dumbest thing to say. Bringing back archetypes and pie charts would make things way worse
I understand your point about player having to earn a “do it all” build but I disagree. Not many of us can do that, with job/school or life circumstances it’s impossible, but I think that everyone having a “do it all” build with more skillful gameplay will make players who are better at the game or who have time to distinguish themselves, and players that put in more effort can get some extra badges/stats, but essentially we all can do everything it’s just effort and skill that separate us, not the build itself. I believe this is the best thing for us all. Let me know if anyone agrees or disagrees, I’m interested in what you and anyone else reading this comment thinks.
@@majeda1100 I agree, this is the only community where people want their main character of the game to have trash low stats, people don’t know what their asking for, back then u couldn’t even make a tall guard without having low 70s and 60s stats, they say pie charts will add diversity but in reality everybody’s going to make a meta build just like 19 and 20, playshots or stretch bigs
In my opinion the builder is too inconsistent with how it always gets broken. You constantly need to make new builds to compete in the game if you are actually decent. Back in the day the grind for your build wasn’t insane and it added A LOT of balance to the game. Everyone with the same build makes the game turn into everyone doing the SAME exact dribble moves every game with the SAME exact jumpshots. I don’t know about you but this kills the replay ability and skill gap because you had to bring certain line ups to stop certain line ups and every build had its own cheese that’s what made it fun with out that and the delayed gameplay with everyone doing the same exact thing the game is boring af for the first time ever I will not be buying the next 2k because it has a season pass, city, and guarantee same builder with shitty changes that will get broken and require you to make a new build to keep up with ppl that will abuse you if you don’t have the same shi.
@@N33zy23but in return you were tall you got blow buys and better finishing every body besides centers were short you had less contest their was a trade off now but now the court looks goofy af with everyone 6’8 and taller lmao
Edit: and more passing lanes
I'm glad I'm not the only one who doesn't even look at what the other players builds are anymore. Everyone is the same. And, NOBODY can play decent defense anymore
The game is insanely delayed you have to just get close get that press animation and tap square once defense is terrible now
There Are no „do it all builds“ in 2k 24… Especially playing good comp you notice the difference between a Balanced Build and a specialised shooter, playmaker slasher, defender alot… But of course randoms wont get that. And if you still think Balanced builds Are op, Make one… in the end it always comes down to skill
@@thaboy1719 facts, a 99 ovr in this game is really a 78 to 80 ovr, yet dudes wanna pay $150 for a role player build, community is cooked
True all builds sacrifice things but people are dumb and think builds without paint defense and rebound are do it all
They should have do it all builds like 20
Do it all builds with badge counter meaning you have to do the move to earn the badge such as to have bronze dimer you need 1000 assists HoF 20000 .. floater the same 500 bronze 10000 hof same for defense 100 steals bronze 1000HoF
I have a few major issues with the game first i think the game needs to put more emphasis on physicals weight and wingspan, and having those effect gameplay, and build creation. For example a popular build this year was the 6’8 burly 260+ lock with the changed I want you would automatically have your stamina reduced to a cap of about an 86-88, certain attributes like vertical would cost much more than normal to invest in but things like strength and interior D would be much easier to get. You would need a good perimeter defense rating like 85 minimum to get above a 90 steal and a minimum wingspan requirement. Same for the rebounding badges minimum wingspan requirements for each level. Having the animations requirements for certain things no be set at a hard cap for example some of the better steal animations should be available with really good timing slightly below the threshold sort of like a buildup to perfect technique vs just making a super high jump all at once in terms of the quality of animations. Making defensive stats matter in more than just the quality of the contest% it should actually change the speed at which you contest more noticeably at the lower levels especially a guy with a 35 perim d should chop his feet on closeout maybe take a negative step before jumping and be much more prone to fouling than what they are currently same with interior guys should get bumped off their spot and left with their hands down because that’s what Poor defenders do. Raising some of the badge levels for some badges and lowering others imo the post badges need to be harder to get at a hof level, than they currently are the rebounding should be slightly lower same with brick wall the layup badge requirements should be based on position as should all the badges but specifically badges like masher and anchor should be available from multiple attributes ie driving layup and close shot and inter defense and block with options for each at a high level not just one. That’s pretty much all I can think of for now but just make the game make a little more sense or have guys get extremely creative to make those outlier builds but give them weaknesses.
7'0 with the yellow pie chart..2k knew what time it was 😂
атрибуты должн давать сильные отличия. с 99 трехочковым ты должен бросать пулапы с дриблинга как стеф и у тебя должно быть огромный зеленый релиз, чтобы тебя держали с начала вывода мяча
Bring pie charts back. I miss leaving slashers open 🤣
When you say 2k20 didn’t have all around builds, you must be talking about old gen. Because on New Gen, I had a 6’8 pg that could shoot like curry and block like Lebron. He could do EVERYTHING.
I think you mean 21 next gen. Ps5 didn’t exist on 20. But yea 21 next gen is imo the worst 2k I’ve ever played
@@ps1746 HIGHLY AGREEE!!!especially that ugly ass shot meter.
@@MrMinty827nah that’s the closest game we got to 20 and how could you say that when we had a game like 22
@@ceaseinthebuilding the 2k21 shot meter was freaking garbage 🗑️ and horrible to use. The mechanics behind it were awful
2k should allow a build that's only usable when playing my career which offers a more flexible and leniant build system, and then an online build which functions more along the lines of 2k20 but not in terms of the interface, like a pie chart, but rather in terms of overal limitations...so basically you get 2 builds when you make your first build. I'M NOT SAYING you should get 2 builds, one my career and one online everytime you make a build, but at least from the getgo, initially, and the second build should be grindable in my carreer. Seems fair and ballanced to me but I could be wrong...
The physical attribute caps for most of the badges and animations I thought were pretty annoying, inaccurate and also very frustrating, especially when you attempted making certain builds. And the badge progression/regression? OMFG that shit was extremely frustrating!!!! I swear on everything like the same 3-5, maybe 6 badges that go up to Gold, stayed at bronze and silver, and I used them like 85-90% of the time.
no lie i wanna make a victor w. Build 😂
As I was just telling all city as I’ve told Young Dirk badge, plug brutal Sim, I think they need to create an affiliation where you can tie it to whatever build you create so for instance I pick he check for my point guard, but for my power forward I got to wait tenacity I think legend grind is coming back. I don’t know this is just what I’m hearing speculation talk as you said to his barbershop talk but if that is the case, and you guys do bring back legend, I think no matter what affiliations both of your bills are doing. I feel like all bills should contribute to the point system within that legend grind, I don’t know how we worked. I was too busy chasing a bag, but I’ve been playing what do you guys think about my proposal?
Not having to earn badges would be nice
Ppl saying “we don’t wanna be role players” the archetype system only made it to you had to make a build that suited you now bums have access to broke dunk animations, brain dead layup bumps, everyone can shoot, and defense is just tap square now or get dexed and they catch and shoot. Game is so bad in its current state and people can’t see that blows my mind.
The builder should be archetypes but you could tweak inside the archetype but can’t exceed limits and getting every badge and bailout stat point possible it’s that simple. For example I pick Slashing and Sharpshooting, now my ball control max out at 75 my defense also 75-80 with steal being lower it should be exclusive to ppl who primary lock, but I’m allowed to shoot with mid 80s and finish in the 85-92 area. It’s the easiest way for the best of both worlds and balance. You still would have freedom to make your build how ever you want but you can’t have it all to just have most people don’t even know how to use their build but you have to respect because they do everything at a high level.
Edit: by max out I mean capped so I can tweak it but with that archetype I can’t exceed that 75 ball control for that build. Two way builds should get penalized heavy or they will be the only build people make if you have playmaking and defense shooting takes heavy or shooting and defense playmaking tanks heavy.
Do-it-all builds make the game so stale and boring. It’s like okay my boy just made a build, what did he make? Oh wait, I don’t actually care, he can do everything. Who is my matchup this game? Oh wait, I don’t care. Everybody does everything.
I like seeing funky shit; like last year, my squad had Derrick White, Charles Barkley, Larry Bird, and Ben Wallace on the floor together lol.
I TOTALLY 1000% agree. When someone contacts it’s not fun anymore. When someone shoots deep it’s ass. When someone dribbles it’s boring everyone does the same meta moves. Game is being boiled down into such a beginner friendly thing it’s awful.
I'll have to disagree on the Role Player Build System. This is My Career and I want to be a SUPERSTAR. The do it all builds maybe able to Do it All , but you can really tell what they put an emphasis on in the stat builder. High 3 guy is going for a 3 pt shot , Inside out guys are mostly going Inside because they can't shoot off dribble. A true do it all build makes some sacrifices in being GREAT at anything. Its not a problem.
I miss pie charts
BRING BACK 2K20 PIE CHARTS THE GAME WAS LEGIT THE MOST BALANCED OUT OF ANY 2K
I think do it all builds as long as you specialize in something, and not master everything. Like if i don't put much into play making i should still be able to catch the ball with no problem. Older 2k like 2k17, you can have do it all builds, because you could unlock every badge, even of its pn bronze.
Bronze badges did nothing besides give your archetype freedom. Also not everyone was going into mycareer say on a glass cleaner and getting bronze limitless range.
I think so it all builds should be toned down but not gone I say a counter should be maybe make shooting easier for lower 3pt ratings and maybe instead of making 87 the first contact dunks maybe make it 85 there’s a way to balance everything stop making the criteria for badges and animations are to high. Also I think that the Max a attribute should be before unlocking higher thru repping up is a 95 it gives everything a better balance but if u want to be keen to one attribute u can be very good
They need to nerf and restrict dunking and defense. The last two years of 2k is spamming square for the steal and running Foward and holding square it’s ass and boring
@@IsoEnzo I think dunking isn’t to bad but I think they should take away the dunk meter that way when u go up for a poster of u have hof poster the meter isn’t so little I think if u have a high dunk u should be able to use it if u have the badges. I think defense is weird I think that if u have a high perimeter d and a decent strength then u should actually be able to lock people up and force them to pick the ball up but I think if u lock someone up they should just lose the ball and then u can go for the steal. But spamming square is so bullshit for real I think it should be timed like if he’s dribbling and switches to his left and ur on his left and u have like an 85 steal u should get that steal. Also I think which hand u choose for your player should actually mean something like I said if u are right handed and u dribble to ur left hand that should be easier for the defense to get a steal or force u to pick up.
Yes do it all builds are goated
And how are lockdowns having better shooting stats than pure sharpshooters? Perimeter defense needs to be nerfed
2-Way builds as a whole need to be nerfed into the ground you should only be allowed two strengths not be the best player to ever exist it takes the skill out the game tenfold
Just replicate the '24 builder and fix the sluggish gameplay
I don't think that " do it all " builds are the issue. It's that do it all builds are too good at it all lol especially in 2k23. The nerfed the attributes in 24 but it's probably still a little too much. I'm a fan of templates because the people I play with are bad at building characters but also don't want help/input 🤷🏼♂️
00:50 “slashers can dribble and dunk but can’t shoot”
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Im green w my slasher/dunker since 18 😂
Then that build is just a liability and nobody will use it
@@rares-ti7vb ur not good at ball then.
@@beluga2342how is a build that kills spacing good or even playable. Whats the point of being able to dribble if nobody has to guard you and finishing is usseles if your opponent just sits in the paint
Making a content lock for do it all builds just makes the game even less user friendly. Try hards will dominate because they’ll hit ranks faster than everyone else. Just being back 2k16 builder.
Do it all builds are balanced even if they have high dunk they can’t do a floater that good for example if you have high steal doesn’t mean you can block someone it sounds like someone that I can’t agree with im a trucker and I hope on when I can but I still can hang with the best it’s about actually having skill and basketball knowledge I admit I do get sold at times but that’s your choice too hop on with players who aren’t as good as the competition
Please return pie charts builder that’s all I ask 🙏🙏
2k was a lot more fun than now that everyone is the same…
The only builds that can do it all are the builds that are 6”8 and lower that’s the problem u let guards do crazy unbelievable things on talker builds that are not real not everyone want to play guard
do it all builds should be tuned Down
Just let us make a prime Shaq build that all I ask
2K24 was literally the MAIN year to make a Shaq build standing dunk was brain dead
@@IsoEnzo nah Shaq could run the break and had speed on him I’m talking a 7’2 99 strength 80 speed and speed with ball monster lol.
Do it all builds are the way it separates the best players from the simps
AND WHY AM I MISSING SLIGHTLY WITH HOF SHOOTING BADGES !!!
bc your timing is off 😭😂 you’re answering your own question
latency is still terrible
The problem is the dribble moves are slow and feels like you're glued to the floor. Shooters can't shoot consistently because of the lag and small green window. I have a 94 3pt rating and still miss wide open sometime. And perimeter defense contests are way too overpowered. If you're gonna make defense op then make it so shooters can get space better or shoot contested more often. If you have gold or hof shooting badges they should be able to hit contested unless they are right in your face. This garbage where I have 5ft of separation and miss because the shot timing changes is ridiculous and aggravating and I won't be buying the game if it's not fixed. I shouldn't need a 99 rating to hit shots with separation
If you can't hit open shoots with a 94 3 you is just your fault you shouldn't be able to make contested shoots because you are already able to make them i make contested shoots sometimes with a 77 3pt and i saw people green deep 70% contest with below 80 3pt rating
I like it
It'll be 90% the same builder, with a few gimmicks tweaked. 2k has been duping us for years...🎉
2k16 was the best bc of the builder. 2k is officially on the decline and won’t last 5 more years with the way they completely disregard the community
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They will last forever because people like you get on social media to talk shit about the game, but then still buy the game and spend money in VC.
Niggas still gonna buy this game and get vc and make a lot of builds lol. It's the only basketball game regardless of it not being perfect it's still the ONLY b-ball game kids/old heads have
And yet people are here commenting and watching news regarding 2K25.
Furthermore, it's an annual installment basketball game so unless the sport itself dies the game will not.
I agree with you tutes. Just because you spent your money doesn’t mean you are entitled to anything. I think the builder should be reworked to where there are certain limitations on each build. In the current state we are in you can get away with having an 85 perimeter, you can dunk with a 40 dunk, 40 standing dunk. I mean there is literally nothing you can’t do on this game. We still need variety, I have enjoyed 2k24 but I want to get to a point where I respect that someone is good on this game. I haven’t had that feeling since 2k20
@@douglashearon4823 that sounds stupid lol. Pay $200+ just to play a game that won’t even let you play the way you want. It’s why 2k won’t last. They don’t listen to the community or care.
@@KingOfCleveland32but this builder has clearly failed since 2k has failed to make a game that made the community happy since 21. All around builds should exist, but it shouldn’t be easy to use as it is for the last 4 2k games. 2k16-2k20 did a fair job balancing all around builds
@@douglashearon4823 😂😂😂 bro really just said “just because you spent your money you aren’t entitled to anything”😂😂😂😂😂😂 sho sound crazy
Do it all builds are fine. The players we make are supposed to be NBA players. Why not continue to give us the option to make that kind of build? The only reason people want to go back to old days (archetype based or pie charts) is because they want it easy. They don’t like challenges defensively. Besides, most people make these do it alls but don’t play like it. Everyone has the same boring and dull playstyle. So why complain about it? They just copy and paste from content creators.
People actually paying for a build ☠