Podcast: Is climate change actually being taken seriously?
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- Опубликовано: 29 апр 2024
- In this last episode of the series, we’ll be exploring how stories work for and against climate change.
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We cover a lot of ground: from hippos and polar bears to how many times ‘sex’ and ‘tea’ were mentioned on TV between 2017 and 2018… so what’s all of this got to do with sustainability and climate change? Join us to find out!
Our storytelling experts this time are Richard Staley (lecturer in the history and philosophy of science, Sarah Dillon (author, researcher and broadcaster) and Martin Rees (cosmologist, astrophysicist, and Astronomer Royal).
This episode was produced by Nick Saffell, James Dolan, and Naomi Clements-Brod.
In this episode:
0:00 - Intro
04:05 - When and how did we start telling stories about the environment?
08:30 - What is the purpose of a story and how do they work?
10:30 - Climate models and climate fictions.
12:53 - Models as fiction. The reliability of models.
13:30 - The climate in the past. Modelling the future to think long-term.
15:45 - Recap
19:00 - How we experience the weather and the climate.
20:05 - The importance of Indigenous stories.
22:55 - How does storytelling differ across the world
25:10 - Could there be one story to save them all?
26:55 - How frequently is climate change mentioned in mainstream stories?
29:10 - Engaging with climate change, without engaging with climate change.
30:15 - Do we think about climate change as climatic change?
31:25 - Can we use stories to communicate to policymakers?
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Guest Bios:
Martin Rees (@LordMartinRees)
Martin Rees (Lord Rees of Ludlow, OM FRS) is an astrophysicist and cosmologist, and the UK's Astronomer Royal. He has been increasingly concerned in recent years about long-term global issues - the pressures that a growing and more demanding population are placing on the environment, sustainability and biodiversity; and the impact of powerful new technologies. He is co-founder of the Centre for the Study of Existential Risk (CSER) at the University of Cambridge with a focus on these issues. In addition to his research publications, which total over 500, he has written extensively for a general readership. His ten books include 'Just Six Numbers', 'Our Cosmic Habitat', ‘Gravity’s Fatal Attraction’, and the recently-published, 'On the Future: Prospects for Humanity'.
www.martinrees.uk/
Dr Sarah Dillon (@drsarahdillon)
Sarah Dillon is a Reader in Literature and Film in the Faculty of English at the University of Cambridge. Her forthcoming book (Storylistening: Narrative Evidence and Public Reasoning, co-authored with Claire Craig) makes a case for the value of attention to stories, and the importance of understanding their functions and effects, in the context of high-level decision-making and policy-making.
drsarahdillon.com/
www.english.cam.ac.uk/people/...
Dr Richard Staley
Hans Rausing Lecturer and Reader in History and Philosophy of Science. Currently leading the Making Climate History project. The project develops a fundamental new perspective on the histories and geographies of climate change by linking making and knowing in the emergence of the climate sciences over the past two centuries. We examine the entwined social, physical, and economic timescales of climate change over the entire period it took to remake the climate, and to recognise that we are changing it.
www.people.hps.cam.ac.uk/inde...
What a thought-provoking discussion about the environment! 👏💖
I certainly give them an award for their investment and willingness to address the dire predicament of anthropogenic climate change.
Through rosy glasses and avoiding the real cause is not productive tho'.
Context.
If you want, look up "12 existential threats facing mankind". AGW or climate change is #12 on the most peer reviewed lists. Woah. Pretty low. Climate change is more a deadly symptom actually, then.
Anyway. Not the whole video, but seemingly, to me:
They are so painfully avoiding the main cause of climate change in this video. These guys are often like narrators in a children's show. Careful to be optimistic, hopeful and careful to speak about could, would and should.
The 🐘 in the room that is the cause of all the subsequent issues is population overshoot.
With 250,000 births minus deaths a day, anyone that brings up individual footprint or it's a waste problem should rethink, properly assess this time, the true progressing catastrophe instead of their diversion tactics and hopium.
And no, I'm not going to kill myself to help the issue. Rather our organization was providing information and access to family planning and offering monies to provide education and support for various adjacent things.
Or were. Too many suits and death threats. Our final attempts failed here in Texas as very restrictive laws were passed. So after a couple of long family planning etcetera campaigns, the organization could gain no traction in such a pro-natal culture and was growing ineffective drawing much ire from the majority of society- pro-natalists.
It actually was utterly destroying us so we dropped _the single most important_ task: Addressing overpopulation. And do not focus on it for now. We don't want be hung in public square while at least we can still do other things.
53:00 US responsible for 2% of emissions? No, to be specific: The US exports it's emissions and imports the products.
Roughly computed using the _actual_ interconnected processes and the US _continues to lead the world_ in emissions, whether directly or indirectly.*
When a country takes a product, say Australia and coal. _How much coal does Australia export_ to China anyway, and more importantly, who profits and which should be assigned the emissions.
This is a ridiculous hopefest but I give them kudos from here.
As I've discussed earlier about our organization, we are taking a scatter gun approach, like specifically trying to address the plastic issue. Plastic is so useful, but, for example, we are looking at products like those giant plastic pools- do we really need stuff like that?
It gets really dire when we bring up plastic toys, a major use of plastics and worse, thrown away often as they break or whatever. Talk about our organization getting hate when we bring it up!
The trajectory has been holding for decades now and we can make projections. So we work on whatever mitigation we can for this dire predicament.
*(Canada's tar sands export to us, India tech imports, the products the US imports are gigantic and dwarf the next six closest countries imports. It can subtle: The light bill at all those tech help lines in India are used and paid in India but dedicated to helping US ppl with technology).
When it comes to sotry telling and the awarness of climate change i definitely recommend reading '[Oryx and Crake', by Margrater Atwood. Its an diuffcult read but the prespetive story telling of the environment is amazing.
✌, Martin's ( Respectable Elderly Gentleman ) views were neutral as well as eloquent , additionally, his voice was enticing , clear and certainly he demonstrated in depth knowledge on the subject by rendering novel illustrations to circulate his message
Sarah -- Black Swan reminds me of Naseem Taleeb -- individual who is the author of the book and has reminiscent views to the speakers ( guests ) who participated in this podcast in relation to the UNCERTAINTY , only his subject of focus is on Economics / Investing / Finance.
Moreover, Thank you for recommending book" The Broken Earth Trilogy by N .K Jemisin "
Richard--- Australia is a humungous coal exporter to India and hence may re - consider its view in involving itself in the projects/ business / trade adversely affecting environmental whilst profiting financially .
In a nutshell , the session was informative and may achieve its goal in spreading environmental awareness and motive of being conscious of its effects on the livelihood as well as on the life span of the organisms prevailing on Earth's Stratosphere !!!
Change is the only constant, never a time of stasis
Does this podcast has an app on android?
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Generally speaking - NOOOOOO!
The climate changes.
Wow.
Who knew.
I just assumed that for the 4.5 billion years of the earth's life it was the same.
👍👍👍👍👍
Provide untampered, empirical evidence for all man made climate claims and predictions that have been proven ?