....a nail apron will solve your bug spray/water bottle problem... contact cement a Velcro strip under the cockpit rim, and the mating strip to the back of the nail apron... instant storage... bucket boss makes a good apron...thanks for the video...happy paddling...
You can buy a nice coffee cup that won’t tip over if you lay it on the floor, Stanley makes a great one for not tipping over, I use it in my kayak all the time. The Stanley tough to tip admirals mug, check it out, love mine. The cup is so stable I don’t lay it on the floor, I lay it on the deck. In case the boat tips over ,I just clip the handle to the bungee with a rod leash.
My two cents is, since you're already a hammock user, get elastic cord to fit splash skirt rim and thread a mesh ridgeline organizer onto it. Flip it inward to hang over the skirt edge. Makes it removable and drains water. It would at least handle the mentioned small bug spray and sunblock bottles. Might take some experimenting to see if a bottle holder ridgeline bag would support a coffee flask. I came across your review searching for information on the Eddyline Rio.
Couple of simple suggestions to solve your problems: 1) Coffee cup holder...go to Walmart and look for a round plastic container of some sort just large enough to set your coffee cup in and stick it to the floor just in front of the seat with a couple of strips of adhesive velcro. I'd stick the female velcro to the floor and the male velcro to the bottom of the container. If your coffee cup has a handle just cut a slot in the side of the container to accommodate it. While looking for the container for the coffee cup keep your eye open for a long 3-4" wide and high rectangular plastic container that will fit in the space to the right of your seat and fasten it down with velcro as well. You could also use a small nylon zippered duffle bag for this if you prefer. As to the problem of idiot power boats driven by people who have no idea what they are doing...welcome to my nightmare as a professional boat captain who has to deal with them all the time. My preferred solution to them is a gun...but the law frowns on that!
@ boatman222345 ; Velcro and corrugated plastic sheet are wonderfull things that can prevent the inexperienced from turning a lovely kayak into Swiss cheese. I think your comment is most constructive.
@@onanysundrymule3144 My point was simply that these two products are great for construction of usefull items that can be removed easily without damage. The sheeting I spoke of is the stuff that real estate signs are made of. It is constructed exactly like the corrogated cardboard of a common cardboard box. I have used it for templates, bulkhead, boxes, cup holders, partitions etc. I saw a video of a guy who made a small powerboat from the stuff.
Really enjoyed this follow up video as well as the original a year ago. Helped my choose a kayak. Went with the Sandpiper 130. Thank you for the honest insight.
Two bulkheads is a a very important feature for me. I only weigh 155 but I share your concerns and wish Eddyline could have made this type of seat in their Sandpiper 130 instead of the removable aluminum frame seat. Cup holder, etc., you might be able to make something that works for you. Excellent review!
El polizonte thank you!! I love my kayak and currently exploring ideas to put a simple cup holder (bottle holder actually) in it somewhere. Always looking for ideas on storage!! Happy paddling.
Thanks for the good information. I’m glad you’re pleased and hope you get a cup holder. I’m looking at an Eddyline and was concerned about rolling because they look shallower than my current yak, so I’m glad to hear you haven’t flipped it. Thanks again and happy paddling. 🚣🏼♂️
After five years of use the covers are holding up quite well, yes Eddyline does sell replacements. My original concern was the amount of use will they hold up…..they do!!
Sounds like you just need to mod some net side pocketing and rig up a cup holder and you're good. I think if they came from the factory all rigged up it would take away from the clean lines and clean design of these boats. Can always mod them up yourself to your liking. Either way great review! Just got my 4th boat, an Eddyline Sitka LT! Amazing Yaks!
Yes they are great boats.....I found a cup holder, and the covers have held up well. I’ve looked at some netting to put on the side but haven’t done it yet. Thanks for the comment and paddle safe!!
Choice of kayak, whether sit in or sit on is a personal choice!! When I first started kayaking I borrowed a sit on kayak because I didn't think I would like a sit in.......I ended up liking the sit in better...but that's me!!!
How's the boat holding up after 5 years? I have a line on a GR8 deal on 2 Eddylines, a 16ft Nighthawk and a 14' Equinox loaded with gear. The guy is giving them away just about. But I have to drive 4-5 hrs to get them.
Thanks, man. Interesting review. Can you give your thoughts on the yak's shell and if you have any concerns with white water rock hits? I'm comparing this eddyline to the WS tsunami 125 and wondering if the materials used provide better protection from springing a leak in one or the other.
I'm mainly a flat water paddler, but I have ventured into class 1 and slight class 2 rapids and it did pretty well. I love my kayak but I bought it to use....so it has been banged around loading/unloading, on portages and I have hit submerged logs and rocks.....it has held up very well. Wilderness Systems makes pretty decent kayak so I'd say whichever one you find your comfortable with.
I was thinking about the Sandpiper and I have the same concerns with the extra space around the seat. Can you get a carrier that hooks onto the side of the boat?
I think that considering your age and weight that you've chosen the wrong kayak for camping. Anything you buy will probably need personal customizing as is common in the kayak world. Customizing your own is part of the fun of owning any recreational vessel. You know what you need. Think outside the box and do it. Lovely kayak.
Just crazy glue yourself a cup holder in there 😋.. I got a delta kaya and it doesn't have one either but paid 2600 for a 17 foot.. but it does have a day hatch you can put a bottle in I suppose.
The Pioneer Channel wish it was that easy, I guess bottle holders are only in Walmart kayaks...🤷🏼♂️....coming up with ideas!! Thanks for the comment....happy paddling!!
In my opinion, you can’t lose with either!! The Sitka is really good seaworthy kayak that is really easy to paddle! The Sandpiper is a really good flat water kayak that is stable and also an easy paddle. Both have comfortable cockpits, both are light weight....length and cost are the two differences with Sitka longer (hence easy paddle) and more costly. Either one you chose you’ll be happy with.
lexwaldez I had a nagging foot injury and I gained to 284....😩....so last winter I challenged myself to lose. I managed to get down to 236. I’ll work at it again next winter....put your mind to it and you’ll be surprised what you can accomplish....I wish you luck!!!
@@ADKMan ADK Man - thanks for the encouragement. After sitting at home for two months due to Covid I hired a trainer and i've been hitting weights HARD (for this old guy) for the last month. I feel ten years younger. Gratz to you for improving your life. I'm working on it too! Gaining muscle, losing fat, and down 15 real pounds. Cant' wait to see what anothter five months will bring. Bless you and yours man. Thnx again!
Up 30 during covid but just lost 15. Working to lose 50 more. I want a paddle only kayak. Eddieline if I decide to break the bank or a Tarpon 120 for a more budget option.
ADK Man, good to know that your 12 footer can carry your 250/60 plus a decent amount of camping gear. I have been wondering about limits. I am about the same weight and want to try to stay at 12 feet if at all possible. More fishing-related needs for me so the Caribbean 12 Angler and the new Caribbean 12 FS are two I'll be checking. And, if I could figure out a way to rig some fishing gear, the new Sandpiper 130 looks so appealing. I'll subscribe and keep up with your coverage here. Good job! Brad
Brad Reid thank you!! It really has been a great kayak for me. My winter challenge has been to lose some weight and I’m currently at 235, but my gear is still around 35 pounds! Thanks for the comment good luck!!
If you are concerned about the covers to compartments failing, do you know what the cost is for replacements? It seems they would be available from a dealer.
Steve Printy Eddyline does have covers, I was originally concerned that they would tear with the amount of times I get into them. Knowing my luck one would fail just as I started a trip. I liked the covers used by Wilderness Systems, which are on cheaper kayaks. So far they are holding up! As for cost, I’d have to call them as I have not seen replacement cost on their website.
DiscoveringOutdoors I did try before I bought it, and I do love it!!! It’s been dependable so far and it’s only two years old but it looks ten! Anyways wouldn’t be caught dead in a Prius.
Adult diaper. bug spray and water bottle into crotch area large mug of hot coffee for kayaking? into elastic band above absorbent storage. Must stop paddling after all the coffee and water or...BOOM resume naked paddling like usual. Thermos and clothes pocket(s) is the feeble-minded solution
....a nail apron will solve your bug spray/water bottle problem... contact cement a Velcro strip under the cockpit rim, and the mating strip to the back of the nail apron... instant storage... bucket boss makes a good apron...thanks for the video...happy paddling...
You can buy a nice coffee cup that won’t tip over if you lay it on the floor, Stanley makes a great one for not tipping over, I use it in my kayak all the time. The Stanley tough to tip admirals mug, check it out, love mine. The cup is so stable I don’t lay it on the floor, I lay it on the deck. In case the boat tips over ,I just clip the handle to the bungee with a rod leash.
My two cents is, since you're already a hammock user, get elastic cord to fit splash skirt rim and thread a mesh ridgeline organizer onto it. Flip it inward to hang over the skirt edge. Makes it removable and drains water. It would at least handle the mentioned small bug spray and sunblock bottles. Might take some experimenting to see if a bottle holder ridgeline bag would support a coffee flask. I came across your review searching for information on the Eddyline Rio.
Hey I like your thinking. I now have a bottle holder….but I like your idea!! Thanks for the comment.
Couple of simple suggestions to solve your problems:
1) Coffee cup holder...go to Walmart and look for a round plastic container of some sort just large enough to set your coffee cup in and stick it to the floor just in front of the seat with a couple of strips of adhesive velcro. I'd stick the female velcro to the floor and the male velcro to the bottom of the container. If your coffee cup has a handle just cut a slot in the side of the container to accommodate it. While looking for the container for the coffee cup keep your eye open for a long 3-4" wide and high rectangular plastic container that will fit in the space to the right of your seat and fasten it down with velcro as well. You could also use a small nylon zippered duffle bag for this if you prefer.
As to the problem of idiot power boats driven by people who have no idea what they are doing...welcome to my nightmare as a professional boat captain who has to deal with them all the time. My preferred solution to them is a gun...but the law frowns on that!
boatman222345 not a bad idea and yes the law would frown on that.....
@ boatman222345 ; Velcro and corrugated plastic sheet are wonderfull things that can prevent the inexperienced from turning a lovely kayak into Swiss cheese. I think your comment is most constructive.
@@pistolpeds Sir, please explain more about the corrugated plastic sheet.
@@onanysundrymule3144 My point was simply that these two products are great for construction of usefull items that can be removed easily without damage. The sheeting I spoke of is the stuff that real estate signs are made of. It is constructed exactly like the corrogated cardboard of a common cardboard box. I have used it for templates, bulkhead, boxes, cup holders, partitions etc. I saw a video of a guy who made a small powerboat from the stuff.
Really enjoyed this follow up video as well as the original a year ago. Helped my choose a kayak. Went with the Sandpiper 130. Thank you for the honest insight.
David Brieva thank you for watching and I hope you have fun safe kayaking!!
Two bulkheads is a a very important feature for me. I only weigh 155 but I share your concerns and wish Eddyline could have made this type of seat in their Sandpiper 130 instead of the removable aluminum frame seat. Cup holder, etc., you might be able to make something that works for you. Excellent review!
El polizonte thank you!! I love my kayak and currently exploring ideas to put a simple cup holder (bottle holder actually) in it somewhere. Always looking for ideas on storage!! Happy paddling.
Thanks for the good information. I’m glad you’re pleased and hope you get a cup holder. I’m looking at an Eddyline and was concerned about rolling because they look shallower than my current yak, so I’m glad to hear you haven’t flipped it. Thanks again and happy paddling. 🚣🏼♂️
Thank you!! The kayak has been pretty stable even in rough waters! Very pleased with it.....except the cup holder but I think I found a solution!!
Thanks for your honest evaluation. I managed to find a yellow one in stock today at REI so I ordered it. Should have it in about a week.
Thank You....now three years in and still love it. Happy paddling.
Eagle Creek makes great stash bags both solid and mesh (drainage). Attach with either drings as suggested or velcro tabs.
If worried about the covers, maybe be proactive and contact the manufacturer and see if they sell replacement overs, then store away until needed.
After five years of use the covers are holding up quite well, yes Eddyline does sell replacements. My original concern was the amount of use will they hold up…..they do!!
Sounds like you just need to mod some net side pocketing and rig up a cup holder and you're good. I think if they came from the factory all rigged up it would take away from the clean lines and clean design of these boats. Can always mod them up yourself to your liking. Either way great review! Just got my 4th boat, an Eddyline Sitka LT! Amazing Yaks!
Yes they are great boats.....I found a cup holder, and the covers have held up well. I’ve looked at some netting to put on the side but haven’t done it yet. Thanks for the comment and paddle safe!!
they make webbing and Drings for inside of canoes that you could glue in, just make sure you use the right adhesive for the material
Dennis Johnson hey thanks I’ll have to look into it.
My kids got me a cup holder that sticks to almost anything for my offshore boat. Toadfish outfitters is the place.
Thanks
That's a nice kayak. I first bought a sit in kayak, and then a sit on kayak, I think I like more the sit on kayak. But I like both.
Choice of kayak, whether sit in or sit on is a personal choice!! When I first started kayaking I borrowed a sit on kayak because I didn't think I would like a sit in.......I ended up liking the sit in better...but that's me!!!
I use a mesh laundry bag to hold my little stuff
You might want to look at WeatherTec cup holder that could be glued the the hull between you legs for your coffee.
michael scivally I’ve checked out many different holders, I think I have one that might just work!
@@ADKMan
& Where Did You Find it?
@@dawncrossland3028 find the cup holder? I found it on Amazon. It’s a cup the fits onto the bars of a bike. It also fits over the lip of the cockpit.
Cup holder and double sided tape - done
How's the boat holding up after 5 years? I have a line on a GR8 deal on 2 Eddylines, a 16ft Nighthawk and a 14' Equinox loaded with gear. The guy is giving them away just about. But I have to drive 4-5 hrs to get them.
Still going strong!! Love it and I would definitely get another!!
Thanks, man. Interesting review. Can you give your thoughts on the yak's shell and if you have any concerns with white water rock hits? I'm comparing this eddyline to the WS tsunami 125 and wondering if the materials used provide better protection from springing a leak in one or the other.
I'm mainly a flat water paddler, but I have ventured into class 1 and slight class 2 rapids and it did pretty well. I love my kayak but I bought it to use....so it has been banged around loading/unloading, on portages and I have hit submerged logs and rocks.....it has held up very well. Wilderness Systems makes pretty decent kayak so I'd say whichever one you find your comfortable with.
@@ADKMan Cool. Appreciate the feedback.
I was thinking about the Sandpiper and I have the same concerns with the extra space around the seat. Can you get a carrier that hooks onto the side of the boat?
My wife won't buy a car without a cup-holder. I feel your pain,
Craig Thomson I don’t know why it bothers me not having a cup holder. The bottle rolls every where at times!!
What do you think about occasional standing in this kayak? I'm 135 and like to stand up and cast here and there. Any chance, or impossible?
If you can do it….it’ll hold ya!!!
I think that considering your age and weight that you've chosen the wrong kayak for camping. Anything you buy will probably need personal customizing as is common in the kayak world. Customizing your own is part of the fun of owning any recreational vessel. You know what you need. Think outside the box and do it. Lovely kayak.
pistolpeds so far two years in, I love my kayak and it works very well for me.
Can I ask what your weight and height is?. I’m 5’8 240 and I’m told that doesn’t work well for the sandpiper 12
I’m 6,1” 252 pounds. I have also carried about 38 pounds of gear. Check out my 5 year review for this Eddyline Kayak. I put it out last October.
@@ADKMan thank you so much. I’ll watch that today!
What is the weight of this kayak?
38 pounds
add netting and a cup holder
Added a while ago, just needed to find the right one.
Just crazy glue yourself a cup holder in there 😋.. I got a delta kaya and it doesn't have one either but paid 2600 for a 17 foot.. but it does have a day hatch you can put a bottle in I suppose.
The Pioneer Channel wish it was that easy, I guess bottle holders are only in Walmart kayaks...🤷🏼♂️....coming up with ideas!! Thanks for the comment....happy paddling!!
@@ADKMan you too! Could try and make something that uses lip for the skirt as a cup holder
The Pioneer Channel I actually looked at the old style cup holders that use to hook into the car door window slot for that. It looks to be an option.
nice review - can't decide between this one and Sitka?
In my opinion, you can’t lose with either!! The Sitka is really good seaworthy kayak that is really easy to paddle! The Sandpiper is a really good flat water kayak that is stable and also an easy paddle. Both have comfortable cockpits, both are light weight....length and cost are the two differences with Sitka longer (hence easy paddle) and more costly. Either one you chose you’ll be happy with.
@@ADKMan thanks. I appreciate the info!
Big guy at 250?!? I'm 6'5" 300+ and I'm trying to get DOWN to 250. =)
lexwaldez I had a nagging foot injury and I gained to 284....😩....so last winter I challenged myself to lose. I managed to get down to 236. I’ll work at it again next winter....put your mind to it and you’ll be surprised what you can accomplish....I wish you luck!!!
@@ADKMan ADK Man - thanks for the encouragement. After sitting at home for two months due to Covid I hired a trainer and i've been hitting weights HARD (for this old guy) for the last month. I feel ten years younger. Gratz to you for improving your life. I'm working on it too! Gaining muscle, losing fat, and down 15 real pounds. Cant' wait to see what anothter five months will bring. Bless you and yours man. Thnx again!
lexwaldez keep it up!! Your seeing results and it will get you excited to lose more. Awesome job!!
Up 30 during covid but just lost 15. Working to lose 50 more. I want a paddle only kayak. Eddieline if I decide to break the bank or a Tarpon 120 for a more budget option.
Tim Mills one good thing about losing weight, it allows more capacity on your kayak so you can bring a luxury item or two!!
Try a bicycle water bottle mount, you might be able to find a location.
Jim Freeman I thought of that and looked at a few....didn’t want to drill on the sides...I’ll figure it out someday....I have a few ideas!!! Thanks!!
ADK Man, good to know that your 12 footer can carry your 250/60 plus a decent amount of camping gear. I have been wondering about limits. I am about the same weight and want to try to stay at 12 feet if at all possible. More fishing-related needs for me so the Caribbean 12 Angler and the new Caribbean 12 FS are two I'll be checking. And, if I could figure out a way to rig some fishing gear, the new Sandpiper 130 looks so appealing. I'll subscribe and keep up with your coverage here. Good job! Brad
Brad Reid thank you!! It really has been a great kayak for me. My winter challenge has been to lose some weight and I’m currently at 235, but my gear is still around 35 pounds! Thanks for the comment good luck!!
If you are concerned about the covers to compartments failing, do you know what the cost is for replacements? It seems they would be available from a dealer.
Steve Printy Eddyline does have covers, I was originally concerned that they would tear with the amount of times I get into them. Knowing my luck one would fail just as I started a trip. I liked the covers used by Wilderness Systems, which are on cheaper kayaks. So far they are holding up! As for cost, I’d have to call them as I have not seen replacement cost on their website.
Hey its a kayak not a prius, use it for what its made for. People try before you buy, you will love the high quality dependable impressive kayak.
DiscoveringOutdoors I did try before I bought it, and I do love it!!! It’s been dependable so far and it’s only two years old but it looks ten! Anyways wouldn’t be caught dead in a Prius.
Where can you purchase one ?
K Wood the kayak was purchased at the Lake George Kayak Company.
ADK Man ok thank you I live in Wa. state & I’ll try & find a dealer . Great video.
And I’m with ya on the cup holder . Gotta have my coffee.
K Wood I believe you can find a dealer on the eddyline website!! And cheers, drink up!!👍
you should have a spare paddle
I agree!!
I bought a used car recently. Oh no! --- no cupholder.
Adult diaper.
bug spray and water bottle into crotch area
large mug of hot coffee for kayaking? into elastic band above absorbent storage.
Must stop paddling after all the coffee and water or...BOOM resume naked paddling like usual.
Thermos and clothes pocket(s) is the feeble-minded solution
Naked paddling….🤔….can’t say I’ve never seen that!! I now have a pretty good bottle holder.
Cup holder and double sided tape - done
Sad to say....double sided tape did not fare well!!!